Are Eli and OBJ running the old Gilbride WR & QB read

is not a Moron like Randle

Was so open on that 80 yard TD it looked like Nicks or Cruz in 2011.

I thought during the game this looked less like McAdoo's original offence and some of those plays remained me of some of the old plays that took advantage of Eli at his best with his ability to go long when he had the right receiver to throw to.

could be on his own frequency with Eli and the others on another...

"Just be the ball Odell. See the ball, be the ball."

And Eli are on the same page that is frightening to the rest of the League because OBJ has the Talent to run wild.

the new offense would include concepts they've used in the past that worked, right?

Indicated on his pregame presser that his film study showed several old concepts still in place -- although he did say similarities exist in all systems

On option routes. Every team has some. Every team didn't allow all receivers to do it though. Guys like Randle just can't do it.

Not nearly as many options off of options like in the Gilbride offense.

All the bad things to McAdoo or lack of talent

Just like Coughlin gets credit for two Super Bowls, but Reese is to blame for the bad stuff in between


gotcha ya!

In comment 12050084 MOOPS said:

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"Just be the ball Odell. See the ball, be the ball."

Lol awesome

In comment 12050112 Dave M said:

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On option routes. Every team has some. Every team didn't allow all receivers to do it though. Guys like Randle just can't do it.

Yeah, no kidding. Just because Williams noticed some read routes doesn't mean Eli and OBJ are running the "old Gilbride WR & QB read." Don't think Gilbride invented it.

It's in every teams playbook.

Gillbride/Coughlin's offense relied on option routes a lot more though.

In comment 12050084 MOOPS said:

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"Just be the ball Odell. See the ball, be the ball."

Where did you find this pic ?

unlike Randle and the rest of the crew. So if Eli gets a few seconds he can sit there and wait for OBJ to get open (if he has too). This is also a crutch too, look at Stafford. No all the guy does is watch Megatron and wait.

Cruz can do this too. Its about quickness and acceleration, not about flat out speed.

Eli hand signaling his Wrs. So if he has a play called and sees something on one side he can just signal a route rather thsn change the play.

In comment 12050242 SoZKillA said:

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In comment 12050084 MOOPS said: Quote: "Just be the ball Odell. See the ball, be the ball." Where did you find this pic ?

Google Images. There are a few of them together.

because they have spent many off-seasons working out together. In fact, it was mentioned that OBJ would be our pick because Eli was pushing for him, based on the experience he had throwing to him in the off-season. Eli knew he could be very explosive and would be a great replacement of Nicks. That may not explain why OBJ caught on to the system so easily but it does explain the chemistry between the two of them.

a couple of weeks ago, Manning stated that he had no involvement with the Odell pick and he would not offer his input in any draft picks.

Barron got BURNED on that play by Beckham, but only after the Rams CB fucked up on that play. It was a nice fake/double move by Beckham but I don't think that TD was the result of some classic Gilbride option route.

Still a savvy route run by Beckham. But I wouldn't be so sure that this was an option route.

In comment 12051262 Millwall_Giant said:

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a couple of weeks ago, Manning stated that he had no involvement with the Odell pick and he would not offer his input in any draft picks.

I have argued this point a few times on BBI, I'm glad you posted that Eli has actually confirmed this. Not Eli's style.

In comment 12051354 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:

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Still a savvy route run by Beckham. But I wouldn't be so sure that this was an option route.

It's quite possible that Beckham is allowed to read the safety on this play and then decide if he's going corner or post. That would be a fairly basic staple of most offenses, not something unique to Gilbride's.

IIRC from the Gilbride playbook floating around from his Houston days, many of the routes would have 3-4 different options for the WR. So instead of simply deciding between corner/post in the above, the WR might also be able to turn it into a comeback route.

it's pretty much impossible to tell for sure. I'm just saying that it's not necessarily an option route and one of the big reasons Beckham was so open was because the Rams DBs were not on the same page at all on this play.

Basic option route you teach HS kids.

MIddle of the field open = MOFO = Post

Middle of the field closed= MOFC= Vertical

That's a simple option route used at all levels of football.

In comment 12051383 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:

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it's pretty much impossible to tell for sure. I'm just saying that it's not necessarily an option route and one of the big reasons Beckham was so open was because the Rams DBs were not on the same page at all on this play.

Yea, I have no idea what their CBs are doing. Looks like a Fewell special there.

My first thought when watching it live was that McDonald was still thinking about destroying his teammate the previous play...