was made on Fewell...I hope he gets canned tomorrow. That being said, Quinn has got to go also. If they keep Quinn and fire Fewell, it shows me the Giants front office is not really watching what is going on.
Even with a guy like Beckham, our special teams contribute nothing.
Mara had some serious comments after last season..
when we won 7 games. What do you think his approach will be this year? Will he be as pissed off and will be talking about changes again?
My take is that he will say although we finished worse than last year, he has a better feeling about this team than he did about last year's team. This year, he will feel that our team is better than what our record shows and that we are not THAT far away. Some minor tweaking vs major overhaul.
I know, I know, everyone wants a great 2 way TE. It ain't gunna happen. Donnell will work hard on his blocking during the off season as will Fells. We have a LOT more priorities than TE. Our are OK right now and likely will improve. Robinson is a goner as he should have never made it to the roster out of camp.
John Conner should have had that last slot that was pissed away on AR.
I know, I know, everyone wants a great 2 way TE. It ain't gunna happen. Donnell will work hard on his blocking during the off season as will Fells. We have a LOT more priorities than TE. Our are OK right now and likely will improve. Robinson is a goner as he should have never made it to the roster out of camp.
John Conner should have had that last slot that was pissed away on AR.
Sorry but I think Conner won the job outright. Take a look at this season for Hynoski. What was the point?
as a starer, can't rely on Schwartz to stay healthy.
Philly's gonna be a problem until Coughlin adjusts to dealing with them.
This shit will happen all the time unless their is a talent advantage between the Giants and Eagles. The Giants show up and play Giants football regardless of the opponent.
Even with a guy like Beckham, our special teams contribute nothing.
Beckham should not be out there. In fact, that decision over the last few weeks simply bothered me. He (next to Eli) is the franchise. Why would you risk having him get hurt on punt returns? Do you see Dez Bryant or some of the other top WRs returning punts? Maybe Brown on Pitt but that is all.
as a starer, can't rely on Schwartz to stay healthy.
Philly's gonna be a problem until Coughlin adjusts to dealing with them.
This shit will happen all the time unless their is a talent advantage between the Giants and Eagles. The Giants show up and play Giants football regardless of the opponent.
Chip Kelly has been talking about the Giants blocking scheme for over a year now. I still expect Flaherty to make a bigger comment about it.
Sorry but I think Conner won the job outright. Take a look at this season for Hynoski. What was the point?
I agree that Conner was a good player. Sort of a moot point but Robinson had no business making the 2014 team.
I still like Robinson as the blocking TE. Donnell for me really regress during the season. Robinson isn't athletic as I thought. But I really thought his blocking really picked up and I notice that he is in there on 3rd and short and goal line packages. Donnell's is abysmal but that seems to be a league problem with these young TEs. I want the kid from Oregon but I think he is even a worse blocker than Donnell.
that lose 7 in a row and can't beat opposing teams with winning records, need more than a tweak....
I have to take that back......Houston beat Jax, something we couldn't do, and finished 9-7, although, do we beat them if Foster was healthy and played?
If Fewell returns, it means ownership/management sees nothing wrong with the defensive philosophy of this team....
that it was done in a meaningless game....however, you can't escape the fact that it was another careless throw that Eli has thrown for the last three seasons...it was second down, throw it away, but instead, he heaves it up...he did not have a good game....should have had more than one int today....25 incompletions? Not acceptable....
Doomster, which one is it? If Eli threw the ball away would that count as one of the incompletions that pissed you off? You're a dunce. Btw, take a look at these stats, why don't you pine away on the number of completions Drew Brees had today:
that lose 7 in a row and can't beat opposing teams with winning records, need more than a tweak....
I have to take that back......Houston beat Jax, something we couldn't do, and finished 9-7, although, do we beat them if Foster was healthy and played?
If Fewell returns, it means ownership/management sees nothing wrong with the defensive philosophy of this team....
Do we beat them by more if OBJ plays?
RE: Mara had some serious comments after last season..
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when we won 7 games. What do you think his approach will be this year? Will he be as pissed off and will be talking about changes again?
My take is that he will say although we finished worse than last year, he has a better feeling about this team than he did about last year's team. This year, he will feel that our team is better than what our record shows and that we are not THAT far away. Some minor tweaking vs major overhaul.
as a starer, can't rely on Schwartz to stay healthy.
Philly's gonna be a problem until Coughlin adjusts to dealing with them.
This shit will happen all the time unless their is a talent advantage between the Giants and Eagles. The Giants show up and play Giants football regardless of the opponent.
Chip Kelly has been talking about the Giants blocking scheme for over a year now. I still expect Flaherty to make a bigger comment about it.
couple of points here, may not help to draft a top oline in round 1 given the poor results recently. Only do it if you can O'Flaherty, else load up on wide receivers (Cooper) and outscore your opponents
needs some greater input in regards to the design of the offense I think. At the very least Coughlin needs to examine how the running game is being implement because something isn't working.
And is not one player away. 1st & goal from the 4 & we call 3 straight pass plays tells you all you need to know. Zero push. Worst loss of the year for me.
Giants need to establish the run in the second half, I knew the game was lost.
Started the second half run, run for 0 yards, short incomplete, blocked punt and the TD which was the difference in the game.
That is because TC wanted to slow the game down (keep it close) so the Eagles offense cannot get on the field as he knows we can't stop them or Kelly scheme.
Pugh to LG then you can get a starting RT in 2nd or 3rd round-- Sambrailo or D. Williams. Fix the defense with better athletes like Shaq Thompson.the good thing is that 3-4 defense teams will be looking at Ray & Beasley, who should be there at #9.
Agree that OL sucks and is definitely more than one player away
They have two relatively promising young OLs in Pugh at RT and Richburg at C, plus possibly one veteran journeyman worth keeping in Schwartz at G, but all the rest need to be replaced.
For those keeping score at home, that's a minimum of TWO more starters including a "blue goose" OLT and another Guard, plus some decent depth including a veteran swing tackle and at least one guy who is a worthwhile back up at center.
The attitude of management towards the offensive line over the last three or four years has been simply indefensible, as Reese conceded after last season.
But Reese still really hasn't done much about fixing it. Just one first or second day draft choice last spring and signing a bunch of broken down rejects from other teams. This is really no different than what he and his draft team have been doing for the last several years. And as we saw again pretty much all season long, climaxing with the display of ineptitude against the Iggles, his fix still is not working.
Interesting. Maybe the injuries on the defensive will help Perry a lot.
The injuries only aggravate the most ridiculous defensive play calling. Remember Fewell's explanation for keeping his best two pass rushers off the field when Dallas drove down for the winning score? He didn't have one.
I would do that ASAP...like tomorrow...work on a 6-7deal..:.if the Giants can't then trade him to an AFC team...as someone pointed out someone (I believe multiple teams) will offer $14-15 million per year(hopefully the Giants)...someone will offer multiple picks for a 25 year old stud DE...that is just scratching the surface on his ability...the Giants would be nuts...and Reece should be fired if they let a kid with type of ability get away for nothing.
Giants need to establish the run in the second half, I knew the game was lost.
Started the second half run, run for 0 yards, short incomplete, blocked punt and the TD which was the difference in the game.
That is because TC wanted to slow the game down (keep it close) so the Eagles offense cannot get on the field as he knows we can't stop them or Kelly scheme.
With Fewell calling defensive plays, it didn't matter. I think the Giants coaching staff would prefer the perfectly "balanced" game to a W.
The problem is that TC has picked as bunch of awful Coordinators
"The defense is broken".
Whether he points to the DC or FO is yet to be seen.
Here's hoping JR gets some D players in FA and draft(OL as well), and TC gets a new DC, as in last year.
swing passes and passes down the middle to receivers who pick up 10 yards before you see a Giant defender, before mgmnt. figures out it's the SCHEME, and therefore the SCHEME designer?
I'm with you. Flowers looked great against SC. His man didn't get close to the QB. He's strong, athletic, and mean. We need guys like him. Take him and play at guard or tackle. Then draft another o-lineman in Rd 3. Use Rd. 2 for defense (Nate Orchard?).
how many draft positions Philly lost by winning their Anti Odell SuperBowl?
Though 12 receptions is 'usually' not considered a D win, except in Philthy.
Giants need to establish the run in the second half, I knew the game was lost.
Started the second half run, run for 0 yards, short incomplete, blocked punt and the TD which was the difference in the game.
That is because TC wanted to slow the game down (keep it close) so the Eagles offense cannot get on the field as he knows we can't stop them or Kelly scheme.
It list the game because it lead to the blocked punt because they were punting from inside the 20. The way to beat the Eagles is attack their secondary. The Eagles have won this year because if special teams and defensive scores. The "adjustments" to establish the run played right into the Eagles hands.
The number one priority is to fix the fucking running game. Keep on settling for average and we won't go anywhere no matter who is at WR, QB or even on defense.
It's all about the running game. Williams is ok maybe he gets better. Jennings is ok maybe he stays healthy. The OL is ok at best.
You want to fix this defense? Keep it off the field.
missed a lot of throws out there. Threw behind crossing recievers, missed a few seam routes to the Tight Ends by throwing too long, and took too long to get the ball out on several deep throws to Beckham.
He could have easily been picked 3 or 4 times today...
Same results next year.
TC doesn't pick players and
won't change his approach on
play calling, ect.
He will push his run plays on
Macadoo. When Fewell gets fired
another noname will replace him
and he probably will have no
DC experience. Mara is a good guy
but not good owner.
RE: Eli may have thrown for a lot of yards but he really
missed a lot of throws out there. Threw behind crossing recievers, missed a few seam routes to the Tight Ends by throwing too long, and took too long to get the ball out on several deep throws to Beckham.
He could have easily been picked 3 or 4 times today...
Eli was clearly not sharp today. We couldn't run the ball and my gut tells me he just never got into rhythym. The pass to TE Robinson was "off" and well Robinson didn't time it too well either but if he hits Robinson or Donnell in stride we likely win or at least keep it away from the Eagles!
Even with a guy like Beckham, our special teams contribute nothing.
My take is that he will say although we finished worse than last year, he has a better feeling about this team than he did about last year's team. This year, he will feel that our team is better than what our record shows and that we are not THAT far away. Some minor tweaking vs major overhaul.
John Conner should have had that last slot that was pissed away on AR.
Fully agree Eric.
TC knows it too, and is probably just trying to protect his coach from any criticism
John Conner should have had that last slot that was pissed away on AR.
Sorry but I think Conner won the job outright. Take a look at this season for Hynoski. What was the point?
Philly's gonna be a problem until Coughlin adjusts to dealing with them.
Even with a guy like Beckham, our special teams contribute nothing.
Beckham should not be out there. In fact, that decision over the last few weeks simply bothered me. He (next to Eli) is the franchise. Why would you risk having him get hurt on punt returns? Do you see Dez Bryant or some of the other top WRs returning punts? Maybe Brown on Pitt but that is all.
Sorry but I think Conner won the job outright. Take a look at this season for Hynoski. What was the point?
I agree that Conner was a good player. Sort of a moot point but Robinson had no business making the 2014 team.
I think he still has gas in the tank, and would look much better with a better defensive coordinator.
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as a starer, can't rely on Schwartz to stay healthy.
Philly's gonna be a problem until Coughlin adjusts to dealing with them.
This shit will happen all the time unless their is a talent advantage between the Giants and Eagles. The Giants show up and play Giants football regardless of the opponent.
Chip Kelly has been talking about the Giants blocking scheme for over a year now. I still expect Flaherty to make a bigger comment about it.
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Sorry but I think Conner won the job outright. Take a look at this season for Hynoski. What was the point?
I agree that Conner was a good player. Sort of a moot point but Robinson had no business making the 2014 team.
I still like Robinson as the blocking TE. Donnell for me really regress during the season. Robinson isn't athletic as I thought. But I really thought his blocking really picked up and I notice that he is in there on 3rd and short and goal line packages. Donnell's is abysmal but that seems to be a league problem with these young TEs. I want the kid from Oregon but I think he is even a worse blocker than Donnell.
I have to take that back......Houston beat Jax, something we couldn't do, and finished 9-7, although, do we beat them if Foster was healthy and played?
If Fewell returns, it means ownership/management sees nothing wrong with the defensive philosophy of this team....
Doomster, which one is it? If Eli threw the ball away would that count as one of the incompletions that pissed you off? You're a dunce. Btw, take a look at these stats, why don't you pine away on the number of completions Drew Brees had today:
24 for 38 for 281 63.2% 7.40 1td 3ints
I have to take that back......Houston beat Jax, something we couldn't do, and finished 9-7, although, do we beat them if Foster was healthy and played?
If Fewell returns, it means ownership/management sees nothing wrong with the defensive philosophy of this team....
Do we beat them by more if OBJ plays?
My take is that he will say although we finished worse than last year, he has a better feeling about this team than he did about last year's team. This year, he will feel that our team is better than what our record shows and that we are not THAT far away. Some minor tweaking vs major overhaul.
scared and lazy, do not expect much.
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In comment 12057488 BigBlueCane said:
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as a starer, can't rely on Schwartz to stay healthy.
Philly's gonna be a problem until Coughlin adjusts to dealing with them.
This shit will happen all the time unless their is a talent advantage between the Giants and Eagles. The Giants show up and play Giants football regardless of the opponent.
Chip Kelly has been talking about the Giants blocking scheme for over a year now. I still expect Flaherty to make a bigger comment about it.
couple of points here, may not help to draft a top oline in round 1 given the poor results recently. Only do it if you can O'Flaherty, else load up on wide receivers (Cooper) and outscore your opponents
Started the second half run, run for 0 yards, short incomplete, blocked punt and the TD which was the difference in the game.
Started the second half run, run for 0 yards, short incomplete, blocked punt and the TD which was the difference in the game.
That is because TC wanted to slow the game down (keep it close) so the Eagles offense cannot get on the field as he knows we can't stop them or Kelly scheme.
For those keeping score at home, that's a minimum of TWO more starters including a "blue goose" OLT and another Guard, plus some decent depth including a veteran swing tackle and at least one guy who is a worthwhile back up at center.
The attitude of management towards the offensive line over the last three or four years has been simply indefensible, as Reese conceded after last season.
But Reese still really hasn't done much about fixing it. Just one first or second day draft choice last spring and signing a bunch of broken down rejects from other teams. This is really no different than what he and his draft team have been doing for the last several years. And as we saw again pretty much all season long, climaxing with the display of ineptitude against the Iggles, his fix still is not working.
The injuries only aggravate the most ridiculous defensive play calling. Remember Fewell's explanation for keeping his best two pass rushers off the field when Dallas drove down for the winning score? He didn't have one.
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Giants need to establish the run in the second half, I knew the game was lost.
Started the second half run, run for 0 yards, short incomplete, blocked punt and the TD which was the difference in the game.
That is because TC wanted to slow the game down (keep it close) so the Eagles offense cannot get on the field as he knows we can't stop them or Kelly scheme.
With Fewell calling defensive plays, it didn't matter. I think the Giants coaching staff would prefer the perfectly "balanced" game to a W.
Watch Atlanta.
Only on BBI are coaches evaluated based on coordinators.
Whether he points to the DC or FO is yet to be seen.
Here's hoping JR gets some D players in FA and draft(OL as well), and TC gets a new DC, as in last year.
Prince, DRC, Rolle - 1st rd picks
Beason - 1st Rd pick
JPP, Patterson, Kiwi, Ayers - 1st rd picks
Hankins, Moore - 2nd & 3rd
Sorry, but this team has defensive talent, it has a DC who struggles to get the maximum out of these players
Do you think he stays or goes? My feeling is that he goes, but it wouldn't surprise me if he goes.
From Aaron Rogers to Zack Mettenberger.
Jolly Perry and his Tampa 2 has to go.
I'm with you. Flowers looked great against SC. His man didn't get close to the QB. He's strong, athletic, and mean. We need guys like him. Take him and play at guard or tackle. Then draft another o-lineman in Rd 3. Use Rd. 2 for defense (Nate Orchard?).
Though 12 receptions is 'usually' not considered a D win, except in Philthy.
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Giants need to establish the run in the second half, I knew the game was lost.
Started the second half run, run for 0 yards, short incomplete, blocked punt and the TD which was the difference in the game.
That is because TC wanted to slow the game down (keep it close) so the Eagles offense cannot get on the field as he knows we can't stop them or Kelly scheme.
The same thinking lost the game vs. the Cowboys.
Defense sucked when it mattered ...
10 penalties for over 100 yds ..,
Blocked punt for TD...,
Eli missed some big pass plays and the OL can't run block!
That pretty much sums it up and i'll add that there was a bunch of drops also.
It's all about the running game. Williams is ok maybe he gets better. Jennings is ok maybe he stays healthy. The OL is ok at best.
You want to fix this defense? Keep it off the field.
He could have easily been picked 3 or 4 times today...
TC doesn't pick players and
won't change his approach on
play calling, ect.
He will push his run plays on
Macadoo. When Fewell gets fired
another noname will replace him
and he probably will have no
DC experience. Mara is a good guy
but not good owner.
He could have easily been picked 3 or 4 times today...