anyone have any specific thoughts?
#'s weren't there last night, but I liked what I saw. He has great acceleration, soft hands, appears to be a great route runner. He reminds me of a hybrid...more explosive than Nicks coming out of college...a little bigger than Odell...maybe not the weapon that ODB is. The Giants might have a crack at him at #9. Can you imagine him, Cruz and ODB lining up? Randle would be our 4th WR. If anything he also provides great depth if Cruz doesn't come back the same player and/or Odell gets hurt. That would be one dynamic receiving corps.
I doubt the Giants go WR in round 1 again, but I have a huge crush on the potential of Beckham/Cooper.
But, yes, Cooper is a fantastic prospect who seems to have skill sets to be a vertical WR or a slot type WR.
Especially if the other players they're considering in that tier are OL.
That's the selling point though, 2 young stud WR's that cost almost nothing compared to their value/production. It also would make having to cut Cruz (if it came down to it) a much easier decision both for on the field productivity and overall salary cap.
Cooper doesn't want to be a great WR. He wants to be the best and he won't stop until he gets there. I love his approach. Combine that with the talent and I really think you are looking at a guy who will be catching 100 passes per year.
most year's at least one goes top 5-7, so I think it's 50/50 if two WR's go before 9.
In either case this "BPA" stuff is one of the most tired conversations on BBI. It doesn't really exist not how people mean it at least, yet every year like clockwork come draft time you hear people advocating for picking BPA.
That said, I hope the player is a DE or LT.
That said, I hope the player is a DE or LT.
I hate drafting for a position in the first round. That is how you end up with Shaun Williams over Alan Faneca. The Giants have needs at many positions and really need to add talent up and down the roster
I have a hard time seeing how Justin Pugh tops the Giants list of BPA without the tiers Reese has described many times.
it's not new if you pay attention.
It's very possible Cooper could be the BPA given Randle has one year left and Cruz is a question mark.
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That said, I hope the player is a DE or LT.
I hate drafting for a position in the first round. That is how you end up with Shaun Williams over Alan Faneca. The Giants have needs at many positions and really need to add talent up and down the roster
Thanks for the flasback. How many of us felt Faneca was the pick and were blinsided by Williams?
pj, I'm well aware I'm just shortcut writing because it's tireseome.
pj, I'm well aware I'm just shortcut writing because it's tireseome.
LOL, I get it
We have a lot of needs. I still think making a run at Randall Cobb would be the power move while we use the draft to replenish the OL and add some defensive talent.
I think one of the best way to evaluate talent is asking where the player would rank among players at his position from recent drafts. Over the past three drafts, where would Cooper rank against the other wide receivers? He's likely #1 in this draft yet agree, i don't think he's tremendous and i doubt he's in the top 2 in last years draft.
I'd be surprised if the Giants didn't take a player at one of those positions.
I'd be surprised if the Giants didn't take a player at one of those positions.
At this early stage, I'd agree.
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It's basically a moot point. I do think he's a tremendous talent..
I think one of the best way to evaluate talent is asking where the player would rank among players at his position from recent drafts. Over the past three drafts, where would Cooper rank against the other wide receivers? He's likely #1 in this draft yet agree, i don't think he's tremendous and i doubt he's in the top 2 in last years draft.
Watkins, Evans and OBJ probably all go before Cooper if this version of him is in last years draft but he'd still be a 1st rd pick, would have gone before Cooks or Benjamin and I do think he's a legitimate talent who will be an impact NFL WR.
What the 2014 class just did has thrown peoples perceptions out of whack a bit, IMO. These guys basically just did something we've never seen before.
Cooper may not jump into the league and score 13 TD's or be a 1,200 yard guy his first year but I am confident he's going to be very, very good.
I'd be surprised if the Giants didn't take a player at one of those positions.
RB too but you don't pick RBs that high anymore
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OL and WR.
I'd be surprised if the Giants didn't take a player at one of those positions.
RB too but you don't pick RBs that high anymore
After yesterday I would maybe take Melvin Gordon.
Geno Smith looks a lot better with a receiving corps of Cooper, Decker, Kerley and Amaro.
Of course nothing matters if the routine instantaneous breakdown of pass protection through the LG position continues.
The point is that the Jets are running to the podium at #6 if AC lasts that long.
There will be a some excellent options at 9 especially if both QBs get taken.