Every year there are a couple guys that end up in the top 10 that most didn't see coming. Partially based on teams reaching for needs and partially because of what happened prior to the actual pick. But sometimes we just don't take enough notice in prospects. An example being Jerod Mayo in 2008. Belichick (traded up I believe) and took Mayo at #10 overall, a move nobody saw coming.
Right now the the defensive players in the draft being mentioned as potential top 10 guys are Leonard Williams and a bunch of DE/OLB tweeners (Ray, Gregory, Beasley, Fowler, Dupree). Even though we don't know the 2015 NYG defensive scheme, I don't think those guys will fit in to what they are trying to do on that side of the ball. I tend to think that first pick will be an offensive one, but there is a player I just got done doing my report that could catapult in to the disscussion.
Before you start, I am aware of the NYG history of not drafting LBs in round 1. I don't think that is by plan, however. So save that reply for another time please.
Mississippi State MLB Bernardrick McKinney might be one of the more explosive linebackers (rush OLBs excluded) in the country. Here was my summary of him in my report:
Summary: Fourth year junior entry. All American. Top tier athlete for the position that gradually improved his overall level of play throughout the 2014 season. Was also an accomplished high school quarterback and basketball player. McKinney is one of the most explosive 250 pound athletes in the nation. He is an easy mover that creates a tremendous amount of force in short areas. His physical gifts outweigh his skill set at the moment, but he is steadily improving the nuances and reading ability of the linebacker position. His upside and potential are among the best in this draft class.
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Do I really think NYG will take him at #9? Well I think there are a handful of guys I would peg there before him, but I think there is a shot. Reese loves the athletes. Guys that have the size/length/speed. McKinney showed that he can play as fast as some safeties...at 250 pounds. Early in the year I tagged him as an athlete trying to learn football. By the end of the season my opinion changed vastly. He was making quick reads and reacting fast. I haven't seen a LB yet that closes gaps as fast as him. Perryman (Miami) is probably a better instinct guy, but doesn't have half the physical potential of McKinney. I see McKinney as a more athletic version of Donta Hightower, another LB I loved coming out. Something to think about...
And he's not an outside guy. He is a true MLB.
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One thing I would be against is drafting a "tweener" with such a high pick. Too many eaxmples are out there of tweener = bust. They need a sure thing. McKinney at 250 and fast as a Safety is a pure LB at least.
And he's not an outside guy. He is a true MLB.
That helps in that he fits regardless of the system that the new DC would bring in.
Patrick Willis,Kalil Mack, Kuechly, Von Miller come to mind as the type of recent talents that might be such a clear BPA that we would pull the trigger at 9.
I don't know if anyone in this draft approaches that who is also a great fit in a 4-3 .
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Will go a long way to improving depth and future starters. Re-sign JPP and Ayers, tell Coughlin to say adidos to Kiwi and draft Golden out of Missouri. I wouldn't throw big money at OL in FAs. Continue to develop Moore, Wynn, Hankins and Bromley. Actually re-signing Thurmon is pretty huge IMO or else you are back to square one with CB depth. And draft Jones out of UCONN who would be a steal IMO. I don't see Bowman re-signing because he wants to start. Not sure what to do with Rolle I must admit but I would move on from Stevie Brown. I think Taylor has the ability but can't be count on. I think Berhe could be third 3rd safety. Would love to see a safety tandem of Taylor, Jones and Berhe one day. I would love to get Johnson but the Giants may feel that Darkwa could be their 3rd HB and they could be right. I know people don't like him but I would offer JJ a one year deal. If Cruz is unable to go, he could finally take his position as slot receiver.
P.S. talk to Ronnie Barnes
And get a DC that can utilize their talents.
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Any suggestions for Safety that could be available in 2nd?
Under Reese, We've drafted lots of tweeners but not that high.
I do like the talent though.
Under Reese, We've drafted lots of tweeners but not that high.
I do like the talent though.
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Athletically, yes. Mentally he is slow to read and react sometimes. That is his major weakness and I talked about it in my report. He did look like a different guy comparing September to November though.
If they draft Landon Collins, they better sign Devin McCourty because Collins has trouble covering.
As it turns out, he would've been better suited at DE or Elephant.
Another question...and I am afraid I know the answer....is
Will NYG ever think outside the box? Yiu can still run the 4-3 base scheme. but why not go after a Shane Ray and find a role for him? Get McKinney in here and create a new position for a guy that can do so much. I've always felt that limiting yourself with "Scheme-only" fits really puts the draft deciscion makes in a tough spot. I love what NE, ARI, HOU, BAL do. They find the best blend of football player and athlete...and find a way to implement them in to the defense. NYG doesn't do that.
I think it looks like a very strong DT class, but those other names aren't terribly exciting.
Though one DE/OLB I'm intrieged by, but seems to have a fair amount of baggage which may keep him out of the first round all together, is Noah Spence. Very young and immature, but even in his only 2 years of college ball, his quickness jumps out at you.
So yes, he's not a Clowney, JPP, Ansah type but he could still be a fit.
Sintim was a hand in the dirt, downhill off the edge pass rusher.
An OBJ talent for the D playing Mike could be a game changer, for sure!
barens, I agree the crop looks lean on NYG edge rushers. The kid from Kentucky is interesting and fits the paradigm, but he'll need to test well. It appears Fowler is closer to 6'2 250 from what I've read, and listed numbers don't tell the whole story, it's a per player basis. He looks small on film versus Bama, for example.
pretty rich Defensively . I wouldnt mind
Moving up from the 2nd to score a player like
him .
If it wasn't for injury concerns were would he be ranked?
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If it wasn't for injury concerns were would he be ranked?
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LOVE this guy. One of my favorite DEs in the draft. I think he can be a top 45 guy. Others say he is a day 3 guy.
It was completely passive and alien to Perryman's instincts and abilities. I repeat this as a warning. Do not underestimate what a change of scheme and philosophy will mean for him.
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If it wasn't for injury concerns were would he be ranked?
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LOVE this guy. One of my favorite DEs in the draft. I think he can be a top 45 guy. Others say he is a day 3 guy.
Agreed. Excellent player. Now if I could only pronounce his name.
It was completely passive and alien to Perryman's instincts and abilities. I repeat this as a warning. Do not underestimate what a change of scheme and philosophy will mean for him.
I love Perryman. I think he is a top 20 talent.
The funniest part about it was that a day or two before the draft it was reported that Belichick's barber had said that Belichick told him they were going to take Mayo. Hard to imagine that Belichick would tell his barber who he was going to draft, but it turned out to be true.
the way this kid gets out the blocks and hits people at the 2nd level is fun to watch. his technique is way ahead of where it should be for a 2nd year T.
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If it wasn't for injury concerns were would he be ranked?
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LOVE this guy. One of my favorite DEs in the draft. I think he can be a top 45 guy. Others say he is a day 3 guy.
Watched some tape of him last night and was really impressed by his quickness off the ball. Looks definitely worth taking at 41.
there are about 8? 10? of those above 265lbs defensive ends listed this year in cbs top 25 DE's .....edwards, armstead, a pile of them.
such as if shelton drops, or if the team thinks he is great value at any point bpa
thanks.
even a low late rounder like chikillo, while he has moments where he gets locked up, which is not good, there is some quicks to his game...would a guy like that, who appears to have room on his body to get stronger, be more worth it in the long run, as opposed to a tweener that is already maxed out, at the top of his game, with roids?
or, conversly, buckner, who looks to have some power and toughness, or smith.
none of these guys are JJ watt, but you find one who can play along the line and make plays.
but your right, if the value is there in the high rounds, a DT might make more sense.