Is the secondary, especially safety, Giants' biggest concern

is to FIX THE FREAKIN O-LINE so we can have a running game and protect an aging Eli.

it's probably the secondary, given how few are still under contract.

DE and DT are big needs.

OL is more likely to be fixed from within, pending a draft pick like Peat (OT, not OG) early in the draft.

that he played "every game and every dollar" of his 5 year contract ..that is amazing. The Giants got their monies worth out of AR...I hope they can bring him back

see rolle ending up on the cowboys next year.

I could see going there. This draft is going to determine if we're serious contenders next season. There's alot they need to get right.

looks like the number #1 concern since it is such an important position in how the game is now played and it has thinnest amount of proven talent. While both lines and LBs also are big concerns, a rangy impact safety would go along way in improving the defense

Searcy is 2 years younger.
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then the DBs are less of a concern.

The O-line should be their first priority. Then the Defensive front seven. The DBs will benefit from a better front 7 even though I do agree that having Berhe and Taylor as starters would be a scary thought.

IF they re-sign Rolle. But even if they do re-sign him, they need to add another starting S either in the draft or FA.

But my bigger concerns are the OL, DL and LB corps. Being able to run the ball and defend the run remain the two most critical tasks for a football team.

BTW, if we re-sign Thurmond and Bowman and keep the rest of the CBs, I wonder whether one of that group could be effective as a FS. Thoughts?

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wouldn't be averse to trying Bowman at safety. Biggest needs are OL, DT, and LB, assuming that we resign JPP. There are other "holes," but they are less pressing.

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wouldn't be averse to trying Bowman at safety. Biggest needs are OL, DT, and LB, assuming that we resign JPP. There are other "holes," but they are less pressing.

Bowman showed himself as an unwilling tackler this past season.

Safety is in pretty dire straits right now. Lots of holes on this team.

The Skins need 2 new safeties..They might chase mcCourty first but Roole would be in their wheel house..

think safety and LBs were the weakest units on defense and since this is a pass happy league, safety is more important than LB unless of course we can find a three down LB.
Regardless of how you rank the importance of positions the Giants need particular improvement in both lines,LB, and safety.
Maybe some of the improvement comes from within Bromley develops, Richburg and Pugh continue to improve. Walton after his first year after an extended layoff gets better, Schwartz stays healthy and plays to his contract.
Maybe it comes through FA or the draft but in order to even have a chance to contend these areas have to be addressed.

are major concerns....

The defensive backfield has no safeties, two injured corners, and no backups....

The Linebackers have a questionable Beason(will he be asked to take a paycut?), a slow/average McClain, and a rookie in Kennard, who shows potential, but nothing more....

At this moment, the only decent starter we have in the DL is Hankins......JPP, I don't think wants to be franchised, and if he is, may pull a "Welker"......he wants to test the open market.....The rest of the line has an old Jenkins, Kiwi who just doesn't have it anymore(and I doubt will take another paycut), and the rest are just situational players.....none are starters....

The DC walking into this situation, has to depend on Reese....how has that worked out thus far?

is not a concern at all aside from re-signing Thurmond we are loaded there.

Safety is a huge hole.

. At what position does anyone feel like someone cannot expose us? Please name a spot.

up there on the list.

Demps has to go. They shouldn't even bring him back. He plays like a 4.7 S who doesn't like contact.

I'll take Rolle back. I hope they can work it out and keep him 2 more years.

At the other S spot we need to find an explosive athlete with range. The Chiefs have an interesting player. S Parker. He can really run. They had him matched up in one on one situations vs Watkins from Buf and he had a fine game.

Not a lot of exp but a young player coming off his rookie deal who could be a great value. And add tremendous speed at S.

In comment 12092100 nicky43 said:

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is to FIX THE FREAKIN O-LINE so we can have a running game and protect an aging Eli.

and you would be the first one bitching about the defense not defending leads.

In comment 12092305 KWALL said:

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Demps has to go. They shouldn't even bring him back. He plays like a 4.7 S who doesn't like contact. I'll take Rolle back. I hope they can work it out and keep him 2 more years. At the other S spot we need to find an explosive athlete with range. The Chiefs have an interesting player. S Parker. He can really run. They had him matched up in one on one situations vs Watkins from Buf and he had a fine game. Not a lot of exp but a young player coming off his rookie deal who could be a great value. And add tremendous speed at S.

Good post.

McCourty FA or Holliman in the draft

as the 3rd worst FA safety

he is 32 years old. the odds of getting our money outof his resigning are very small. i doubt he resigns on the cheap either.

while he was a great signing and won here, it is most likely best to move on and let him cash in with a team like Oakland then to try and do it again

All that might change in the months before the draft.

Stevie Brown was frustrating to have on the field half the season and was benched for it. Berhe isn't ready to start and Taylor is still a question mark. We need to bring Rolle back at a realistic price because he is declining. Devin McCourty is the best safety available in free agency but we can't afford him.

I understand that offensive line still needs to be fixed but that can and should be done in free agency. We don't need another rookie on that line, we need a young veteran for stability.

CB is one of the teams best positions.

Safety is one of the worst positions.

I have some hope for Taylor, but you can't count on him.

I'd rather draft Shaq Thompson and play him at S if we were going to draft a S at #9. He's SO much more of a playmaker than Collins.

That is an accurate description of Collins.

There is no way that player is going top 10. Giants won't consider him there. Even in round 2, the Giants can do much better.

I don't even see a shot as a first round player for Collins.

He has the look of average NFL player. There is nothing he does that pops and a few things that look like a future problem in the NFL like his closing speed to the ball.

I wouldn't consider Collins until the mid rounds.

THE OFFENSIVE LINE IS THE BIGGEST CONCERN AND NEED ON THIS TEAM. FIX THE LINE AND THE GIANTS WILL BE THE GIANTS AGAIN

THE OFFENSIVE LINE IS THE BIGGEST CONCERN AND NEED ON THIS TEAM. FIX THE LINE AND THE GIANTS WILL BE THE GIANTS AGAIN

around round four - such as Eric Rowe if you take 5 minutes on CBS.

'' STRENGTHS: Possesses a legitimate NFL frame with good height, broad shoulders and a tapered, well-defined musculature. Uses his length and physicality to harass receivers at the line of scrimmage and throughout the route. Extends an arm to jam opponents and disrupt timing.
Good balance and coordination to turn and run, showing steady acceleration and at least functional straight-line speed to remain at cornerback. Good hand-eye coordination to >>disrupt passes at the catch-point, >>showing no panic when the ball is in the air and the >>strength to rip it out of the hands of receivers as they attempt to secure the catch.

>>Aggressive in run support. Fights through would-be blockers, including offensive linemen. Physical tackler who lowers his shoulder and drives through ballcarriers.<<

Good awareness and aggression on special teams. Blocked a kick in 2014 and is a cognizant, physical blocker on the return unit.

WEAKNESSES: May project better to the NFL back at safety than at cornerback. Like many taller corners, Rowe has a slight hitch in his transition, leaving him vulnerable to double-moves. He rides the receiver throughout the route and too often extends his arms to limit their movement.

Does not possess ideal hands, dropping several potential interceptions on tape.''

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as the 3rd worst FA safety

We had been talking about it during the season about how his play had dropped off dramatically. The numbers seems to confirm what the eyes may have been telling us.

Was it due to age? Injury? Not having a safety the caliber of Will Hill next to him and playing next to Stevie Brown and Quentin Demps, two terrible football players? Who knows?

Here is how it broke down week-to-week:

07/02/2014 - Utah's top NFL Draft-eligible prospects to watch in 2014: 3. S Eric Rowe, Senior...A three-year starter and all-conference pick at free safety, Rowe is expected to make the move to cornerback in 2014 to help ease the loss of Keith McGill, a fourth round pick by the Oakland Raiders. Rowe's length, broad-shouldered frame and straight-line speed (Utah coaches reportedly clocked him at 4.39 seconds in the 40-yard dash) make him an intriguing prospect regardless of where he ultimately lines up. He enters his senior campaign with 202 tackles and 21 passes broken up and is well-versed in pro-style schemes given Utah's heavy man coverage philosophy.

'' S Brian Blechen, Senior (6-2 | 215 | 4.60 | #4)
Blechen missed the entire 2013 season with knee tendinitis, which will obviously warrant investigation from any NFL team looking to add him to their roster. He is an instinctive, physical defender who has shown a knack for making big plays throughout his career, notching eight interceptions and six forced fumbles in 35 career starts. Blechen was recruited as a quarterback but his blue-collar style and grit earned him a spot on defense and he won the strong safety role in his first week of practice. Blechen has 'tweener traits but has been too productive for too long to ignore.

OL Jeremiah Poutasi, Junior (6-5 | 345 | 5.29 | #73)
Poutasi spent his first two seasons at Utah playing tackle, first at the blindside as a freshman before moving to the right side last year. The Utes are considering him at his natural position of guard in 2014. Poutasi has struggled with his weight (he's reportedly down to 330 now) but is surprisingly quick and light on his feet. He does not possess ideal flexibility or length and struggles a bit with leverage bu

t could emerge as a draftable commodity if he takes to the new role.

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then there is Nate Orchard- a bit small for my prototypical DE but one never knows.

but hey, why not just drive up to Syracuse instead?

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he is 32 years old. the odds of getting our money outof his resigning are very small. i doubt he resigns on the cheap either. while he was a great signing and won here, it is most likely best to move on and let him cash in with a team like Oakland then to try and do it again

He had a terrible year and my heart says yes, but my mind says no. I believe he can rebound and be solid again, but for how long and what's his ceiling?

I think we need to see what is on the market.

As for JPP, do we let him hit the market and see if we can make a play for Houston?

Reese has his work cut out for him.

are going to be sorely disappointed. At most, they'll potentially draft a player like Peat at #9, and maybe look for a mid-level OG via UFA. At most.

Safety is a big need, and I doubt they'll spend to bring Rolle back. They'll need two safeties at a minimum, and CB has many UFAs to potentially backfill.

Antrel doesn't end up with the Eagles. That would be worse than him going to Dallas, if that's possible.

has many many holes. DE, DT, LB, S, OL, TE..

Whether Cruz can come back as a reasonable facsimile of himself is a huge question. Walton, Brewer, Mosely, Jerry, Herzlich, Paysinger, Robinson..so many players who arguably do not belong on an NFL roster.

I hope Giants fans are realistic about how talent-deprived this team is.

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wouldn't be averse to trying Bowman at safety. Biggest needs are OL, DT, and LB, assuming that we resign JPP. There are other "holes," but they are less pressing.

This made me spit take.... No we probably should not try the guy who when full on matador on Marshawn Lynch at a position that requires good tackling.