when I said Tom had stones....

I can now continue my day in peace knowing absolutely nothing new.

It pretty much convinces everyone your not really an asshat. Your just some individual who keeps trying to make claims after the fact, in order to look like they know something

but why do I find that so hard to believe? From what I've read about Quinn's personal life, he doesn't seem to share a whole lot in common personality-wise with ST.

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You just saw though how Special Teams can win a game for you. It's one of the three major facets of the game. Belichick always used to say if you win 2 of the 3 facets you usually win. Seattle won a game only with STs basically, while Green Bay completely, spectacularly failed on their ST effort.

We are currently more like Green Bay STs then Seattle. We need to figure out a way to right that ship.

Does he hold you in his arms while you cross the harbor?

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In comment 12102230 Mike in Long Beach said:

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lmfao

Did Mara say anything in his press conference to suggest that the special teams wasn't a problem?

Quinn has competition for the most incompetence by a ST coordinator.

I don't know who's keep score.... But I thought this guy had broken some stuff, no?

If he wanted Quinn gone he would be..If he's a Tisch guy, he could always be given an organizational job..If Quinn was forced on TC year after year, TC would resign..He is NEVER told how to run his onfield operations..

I don't believe this take on Quinn at all

Broken some stories...

Sorry. Autocorrect.

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For ST coach!

the very term "a Tisch guy" bothers me. I hope there aren't any on this staff.

Appreciate the insight. Stay safe, and mysterious enough not to be tracked!

And yes, I hope everyone appreciates Tom. I just wish the FO did a better job getting him talent. We've been too hit and miss for most of the time Tom's been here on draft choices, we need more guys "who can play"...not necessarily superstars!

In comment 12102279 Big Blue '56 said:

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If he wanted Quinn gone he would be..If he's a Tisch guy, he could always be given an organizational job..If Quinn was forced on TC year after year, TC would resign..He is NEVER told how to run his onfield operations.. I don't believe this take on Quinn at all

You don't actually believe that Gilbride retired on his own last year, do you?

I do..He and his wife were planning on it..When he heard Mara's comments about the broken O, he probably figured that was the best time to join his wife..If TC sorely wanted him to stay, he might have, but I think this was HIS time to leave..That's how I see it..There's NO WAY to know for sure beyond conjecture..

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cvicszasz!

It makes sense....

Come Aboard. Ferry Godfather's... expecting you

drinking a Pina Colada at Trader Vics.






And his hair was perfect.

You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn.

In comment 12102419 MookGiants said:

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In comment 12102279 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: If he wanted Quinn gone he would be..If he's a Tisch guy, he could always be given an organizational job..If Quinn was forced on TC year after year, TC would resign..He is NEVER told how to run his onfield operations.. I don't believe this take on Quinn at all You don't actually believe that Gilbride retired on his own last year, do you?

I do too and I also believe Mara when he recently stated that he would never dictate the staff of a HC with Tom's credentials. Gilbride also may have considered that the O-line was so broke it would take more than a year to fix it and didn't want to be part of another miserable season. If he thought that, he would have been correct too.

nice bridge to sell you guys if you believe Gilbride wasn't forced to retire by Mara.

Gilbride knew he was going to be fired, and retired instead. If you think it was his choice and he was going to come back you haven't been paying attention. Gilbride saw the writing on the wall.

There was zero chance he wasn't getting fired, and not by Tom, by Mara. When the owner says the offense is broken you know you're finished.

And if you have paid attention to everything Gilbride has said since, it supports the theory that Mara was going to fire him if he didn't retire.

and Gilbride retired in advance of what he believed was going to be a firing. Two for one, hang 'em up while going out on top (not fired) and save the organization some grief.

reading a contention that Steve Tisch is forcing a special teams coordinator on Tom Coughlin? I mean, is that really what I am reading?

Gilbride retired because of his respect for Tom. He knew Tom was going to go to bat for him and didn't want it to have to come to that, because he knew Mara was going to want to fire him and would win out. He saved Tom that headache.

Every beat writer basically said at the time that he was going to be fired if he didn't retire, too.

In comment 12102649 MookGiants said:

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Gilbride retired because of his respect for Tom. He knew Tom was going to go to bat for him and didn't want it to have to come to that, because he knew Mara was going to want to fire him and would win out. He saved Tom that headache. Every beat writer basically said at the time that he was going to be fired if he didn't retire, too.

Plausible

In comment 12102649 MookGiants said:

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Gilbride retired because of his respect for Tom. He knew Tom was going to go to bat for him and didn't want it to have to come to that, because he knew Mara was going to want to fire him and would win out. He saved Tom that headache. Every beat writer basically said at the time that he was going to be fired if he didn't retire, too.

There was an article on it recently where Gilbride basically said it himself, IIRC. I couldn't find the article in my 30 seconds of Googling.

quote of all after Gilbride retired

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“He retired and fortunately it didn’t come to any type of situation where he had to be forced out,’’ Mara said Thursday in an interview on WFAN.

Basically, he retired which saved me from having to fire him.

Sugar Daddy Steve figures Quinn is the only one in the building who knows less about football than he does.

In comment 12102697 bceagle05 said:

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Sugar Daddy Steve figures Quinn is the only one in the building who knows less about football than he does.

I'm sorry, but this is ludicrous...

In comment 12102647 Chris in Philly said:

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reading a contention that Steve Tisch is forcing a special teams coordinator on Tom Coughlin? I mean, is that really what I am reading?

Yes, and the gaggle of dim bulbs is still buying what this cretin is selling.

In comment 12102724 Randy in CT said:

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In comment 12102647 Chris in Philly said: Quote: reading a contention that Steve Tisch is forcing a special teams coordinator on Tom Coughlin? I mean, is that really what I am reading? Yes, and the gaggle of dim bulbs is still buying what this cretin is selling.

Not saying this cvics is right, but stuff like that happens in industry all the time.

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of course, very common. Who knows; however, it does not change 1 important thing. This organization has not gotten it right lately and we have not been in the playoffs for many years. Organizational incompetence.

In comment 12102728 Coach Mason said:

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In comment 12102724 Randy in CT said: Quote: In comment 12102647 Chris in Philly said: Quote: reading a contention that Steve Tisch is forcing a special teams coordinator on Tom Coughlin? I mean, is that really what I am reading? Yes, and the gaggle of dim bulbs is still buying what this cretin is selling. Not saying this cvics is right, but stuff like that happens in industry all the time.

Not in the football industry when wins and losses are counted weekly, and coaches are always expected to produce a top level product or they lose their job. Do you honestly think someone like Tom Coughlin is going to let a part owner force a STs coach down his throat? That TC would actually have to submit to that or lose his job?

is believed to be hurting the team, when TC is trying to win games and keep his job? No, it doesn't make sense.

himself to have sources.

If you don't like what he's saying or how he's wording things, ignore him and don't fuck it up for everyone else.

they are down right atrocious. Sugar coat with any BS ancillary stats you want, but he's been horrible. There is no reasonable explanation for him to get yet another year. May not be what cvic said but don't know something just doesn't add up. Can Coughlin be that oblivious to string him along for another campaign?

Also interesting that the rest of the asshat brigade has steered clear of this thread.

He's the real power behind the Giants.

..here that are sitting in necessary silence biting their tongues.....I have nothing but the deepest admiration for your willpower.

of that year that it would be KG's last, but many here like to believe in conspiracy theories.

Had the offense not completely sputtered out of control, he could have decided to hang around for one more year, but I'm positive he wasn't forced out. He had been ready to go since after the '11 season, when his wife moved back to RI. The only reason he hung around was to mentor his son.

It all makes sense now:

-We saw TC yelling at Quinn on the sidelines. He doesn't like the guy.

-The hiring of Larry Izzo as Assistant Special Teams coach was probably made by Coughlin to minimize Quinn's damage. Izzo is really Coughlin's guy.