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Andy Dalton to the Pro Bowl to replace Rodgers

YAJ2112 : 1/20/2015 11:44 am
3398 yards, 19 TDs and 17 INTs in 16 games. Quite a season.
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GP : 1/20/2015 11:46 am : link
Eli  
spike : 1/20/2015 11:47 am : link
Got jobbed
Dumb question probably...  
FranknWeezer : 1/20/2015 11:47 am : link
But isn't the Pro Bowl still AFC v. NFC? Why do I keep seeing all these replacements of an AFC player for an NFC player, and vice versa? That's like the Giants putting a guy on IR and then the Patriots adding a guy to their roster to take his place. I don't get it.
RE: Dumb question probably...  
YAJ2112 : 1/20/2015 11:48 am : link
In comment 12102412 FranknWeezer said:
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But isn't the Pro Bowl still AFC v. NFC? Why do I keep seeing all these replacements of an AFC player for an NFC player, and vice versa? That's like the Giants putting a guy on IR and then the Patriots adding a guy to their roster to take his place. I don't get it.


It's not AFC vs NFC anymore, they did away with that format last year.
Can we get OBJ replaced?  
old man : 1/20/2015 12:01 pm : link
He is our #1 playmaking asset; and we have had guys suffer injuries in an odd manner.
Unelss Eli specifically said he doesn't want to play...  
RC02XX : 1/20/2015 12:03 pm : link
this is another reason why the Pro Bowl is a damn joke. And the new fantasy draft format with Chris Carter drafting for one team is laughable.
How is this even possible?  
Mike in Jersey : 1/20/2015 12:04 pm : link
There are at least 15 other guys more deserving of being a Pro Bowler than Dalton...
Who were the alternates?  
JoeyBigBlue : 1/20/2015 12:14 pm : link
I thought it went by who was chosen as an alternate?


I know

Rodgers - Injured
Brady - Super Bowl
Manning - Injured
Luck
Big Ben
Romo

That's 3 replacements needed
Ok so ESPN has the update  
JoeyBigBlue : 1/20/2015 12:21 pm : link
Brees will replace Big Ben
Matt Stafford replaces Peyton
Matt Ryan replaces Brady
Dalton replaces Rodgers

Stafford and Dalton both have inferior numbers to Eli

Brees and Ryan are debatable

Just ridiculous
There was a time  
Doomster : 1/20/2015 12:26 pm : link
when these games were pretty good.....

Fan based polls suck......

I remember, in baseball, it used to be just coaches and players voting for all stars, and I believe you couldn't vote for members on your own team....
i know its just the probowl  
NewYorksFinest : 1/20/2015 12:36 pm : link
but does this piss anyone off like it has with me? Andy Dalton is a garbage bin of a qb. fan based polls? i know people from the cincy area who love their bengals and they all despise him. I dont get it..

It is JUST a stupid all star game, but its respect..
Following deserve it:
Eli
flacco
alex smith
bridgewater

All had better years, hope fat mike or someone goes on a rant, although it might be too meaningless.
Dalton was the 7th alternate  
YAJ2112 : 1/20/2015 12:45 pm : link
Don't know if the other alternates were able to pass on going or not.

It doesn't piss me off, though it's mildly annoying when people use pro bowl appearances as an argument for or against one player being better than another - Pro Bowl appearances are pretty much meaningless at this point.
I'm not an Eli guy...  
bw in dc : 1/20/2015 12:58 pm : link
Never have been since he arrived.

But I must say he is considerably better than Dalton, who is a train wreck for Cincinnati. There is some terrific talent on that team, specifically on the offensive side, being neutralized by the play of Dalton. It is astonishing to me he got asked to play...I predict he gets drafted last...
Jay Cutler  
USAF NYG Fan : 1/20/2015 12:58 pm : link
had better numbers than Andy Dalton and Chicago is about ready to run him out of town.
RE: I'm not an Eli guy...  
drkenneth : 1/20/2015 1:04 pm : link
In comment 12102562 bw in dc said:
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Never have been since he arrived.

But I must say he is considerably better than Dalton, who is a train wreck for Cincinnati. There is some terrific talent on that team, specifically on the offensive side, being neutralized by the play of Dalton. It is astonishing to me he got asked to play...I predict he gets drafted last...


Not trying to spark a debate...but, I have no idea how anyone walks around saying "I'm not an Eli guy."

I don't get it, and probably never will.
The game is a joke anyway and I'd rather have my QB  
Victor in CT : 1/20/2015 1:08 pm : link
at home watching it on TV. Let Dalton go and risk injury.
RE: RE: I'm not an Eli guy...  
Victor in CT : 1/20/2015 1:11 pm : link
In comment 12102574 drkenneth said:
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In comment 12102562 bw in dc said:


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Never have been since he arrived.

But I must say he is considerably better than Dalton, who is a train wreck for Cincinnati. There is some terrific talent on that team, specifically on the offensive side, being neutralized by the play of Dalton. It is astonishing to me he got asked to play...I predict he gets drafted last...



Not trying to spark a debate...but, I have no idea how anyone walks around saying "I'm not an Eli guy."

I don't get it, and probably never will.


I agree with you drkenneth.
Being realistic about Eli...  
BamaBlue : 1/20/2015 1:22 pm : link
there are two Eli's. One is the clutch performer who can thread the needle, and moves the offense when it really counts. The other Eli throws mind-numbing interceptions, misses open receivers and has no pocket awareness when it really counts.

The problem for Giants fans is that you never know which Eli shows up on Sunday...
I don't agree with that either.  
drkenneth : 1/20/2015 1:29 pm : link
I just won't come back to this thread. I'd rather chew on my shoes.
A breakdown of the alternates from PFT  
YAJ2112 : 1/20/2015 1:55 pm : link
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Of the original six to be picked, only Andrew Luck and Tony Romo remain. Tom Brady’s busy this week and Peyton Manning, Ben Rosethlisberger and Aaron Rodgers took injury excuses.

First alternate Drew Brees will be in Arizona, but second Philip Rivers (injury) and third Russell Wilson (busy) took a pass. That allowed fourth and fifth alternates Matthew Stafford and Matt Ryan to get in, before Flacco chose paternity leave to make way for Dalton.

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bw rolls his own way  
DieHard : 1/20/2015 2:00 pm : link
He's never been a fan of:

- Eli
- Tom Coughlin
- Giants management/ownership

It's not a surprise that he's returned to the forum now that the team is struggling.
It does kind of piss me off  
dep026 : 1/20/2015 2:23 pm : link
that Eli constantly gets overlooked year after year. Whats sad is thatthey actually use pro bowls as a mean of putting someone in Canton.

This is just a joke. I had no problem with Eli not being in the top 6. But for him to get passed over for Flacco, Rivers, Stafford, and Dalton is a shame.

Manning is becoming one of the most disrespected athletes in the NFL.
I hope before  
AnishPatel : 1/20/2015 2:28 pm : link
Eli retires we can pad his stats even more. I want him to get between 35-40 TDs. Just once I'd like to see that happened.

He flies under the radar but I wish he was able to make it to the pro bowl.
Dalton sucks.  
arcarsenal : 1/20/2015 2:28 pm : link
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Stuff like this is why I almost cringe when people still delude  
Devon : 1/20/2015 2:32 pm : link
themselves into think he's ever making the HoF.

His reputation in most circles is beyond shot thanks to how the last few seasons have played out. It's not fair (beyond not, really,), but he's back, in the now and in overall perception, to where he was pre-first SB title.
Eli and OBJ  
spike : 1/20/2015 2:32 pm : link
Will be an unstoppable combo next season
RE: Stuff like this is why I almost cringe when people still delude  
dep026 : 1/20/2015 2:36 pm : link
In comment 12102789 Devon said:
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themselves into think he's ever making the HoF.

His reputation in most circles is beyond shot thanks to how the last few seasons have played out. It's not fair (beyond not, really,), but he's back, in the now and in overall perception, to where he was pre-first SB title.


If his last name wasnt Manning, I truly believe he would be looked favorably upon. I mean he had 30 TDs, 14 INTs, and 4,400 yards this year. And fucking Andy Dalton was looked as having a better year.

Give me a break.
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SoZKillA : 1/20/2015 2:36 pm : link
This is what happens with fan voting.

A majority of NFL "fans" are dopes.

Hell, go read the comments on Facebook/Twitter/Instagram whenever NFL posts something, you'll see some stupid things being said.
Also,  
SoZKillA : 1/20/2015 2:38 pm : link
If you're "not an Eli guy", go be a Jet fan
RE: Being realistic about Eli...  
Toth029 : 1/20/2015 3:06 pm : link
In comment 12102625 BamaBlue said:
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there are two Eli's. One is the clutch performer who can thread the needle, and moves the offense when it really counts. The other Eli throws mind-numbing interceptions, misses open receivers and has no pocket awareness when it really counts.

The problem for Giants fans is that you never know which Eli shows up on Sunday...

Despite some flaws he may have (all QB's in this league has them, some more than others obviously), he is still far away better than somebody like Andy Dalton. Red Rifle had a better team, that's all.
Toth...  
BamaBlue : 1/20/2015 3:24 pm : link
I agree. It's amazing how polarizing Eli is among loyal Giants fans. There are kool-aid drinkers who are all-in and kool-aid drinkers who will never be "Eli guys." As you alluded to, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Why do we even care if Eli's in the Pro Bowl, at this point?  
BlackLight : 1/20/2015 3:27 pm : link
Nothing good can come from his playing in that game. And really, when you only make it in because of a QB who drops out 5 days prior, where's the pride in saying he got to play?
RE: bw rolls his own way  
bw in dc : 1/20/2015 6:22 pm : link
In comment 12102729 DieHard said:
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He's never been a fan of:

- Eli
- Tom Coughlin
- Giants management/ownership

It's not a surprise that he's returned to the forum now that the team is struggling.


All true, except your last sentence. That is purely coincidence... ; )
If those are all true, then I sincerely hope you didn't take any joy  
Devon : 1/20/2015 6:33 pm : link
from either Super Bowl title, as you can't subtract the roles Eli and Coughlin played in them.
RE: RE: I'm not an Eli guy...  
bw in dc : 1/20/2015 6:38 pm : link
In comment 12102574 drkenneth said:
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In comment 12102562 bw in dc said:


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Never have been since he arrived.

But I must say he is considerably better than Dalton, who is a train wreck for Cincinnati. There is some terrific talent on that team, specifically on the offensive side, being neutralized by the play of Dalton. It is astonishing to me he got asked to play...I predict he gets drafted last...



Not trying to spark a debate...but, I have no idea how anyone walks around saying "I'm not an Eli guy."

I don't get it, and probably never will.


Since you noted my comments, my issue with Eli started from the get-go when Condon, Archie, and Eli manipulated the draft, ala Elway, and refused to go to San Diego because of some stupid, made up discomfort with former GM A.J. Smith...It was the action of spoiled brat. It's a privilege to get drafted into the NFL. Play with that team, and move when your become a free agent.

After that, Eli has had this huge standard deviation with his play that is maddening. QB is a position in today's NFL that requires much more consistency from year to year if you proclaim yourself an "elite QB"...
Bottom Line: Eli Two Rings,  
clatterbuck : 1/20/2015 6:51 pm : link
two SB MVPs. I'll take him.
Team Carter vs. Team Irvin?!  
Knineteen : 1/20/2015 10:34 pm : link
wtf kind of garbage is this?
If they wanted to make the Pro Bowl even more banal...this would be the way to do it.
bw did have some nice things to say about Snyder back in the day  
jcn56 : 1/20/2015 10:41 pm : link
I don't think RGknee agrees with him though.

The Pro Bowl's a joke, the farther all of our guys stay away from there the better.
how can a ginger  
Deej : 1/20/2015 11:22 pm : link
be one of the top players? wtf is happening to this country?
Dalton over Eli is a joke  
Osix_ : 1/21/2015 12:16 am : link
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RE: Being realistic about Eli...  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/21/2015 7:47 am : link
In comment 12102625 BamaBlue said:
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there are two Eli's. One is the clutch performer who can thread the needle, and moves the offense when it really counts. The other Eli throws mind-numbing interceptions, misses open receivers and has no pocket awareness when it really counts.

The problem for Giants fans is that you never know which Eli shows up on Sunday...


Yes you do. Get him a functional OL and most of the time you will see a good to great Eli. Shit OL and you get a real mixed bag. Not exactly hard to figure except for maybe Jerry Reese and the BBI Contigent that think WRs solve all ills
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