Aikman made an appearance on Sportsradio 1310 The Ticket on Thursday and said he believed that it is “obvious” quarterback Tom Brady was involved in deflating the footballs. He also referenced Commissioner Roger Goodell’s punishment of the Saints for running a bounty program that rewarded players for hurting opponents when explaining why he believed the Patriots needed more than the “slap on the wrist” Aikman feels they got for videotaping their opponents’ sideline in 2007.
“This whole comment by Roger Goodell based on the Saints when Sean Payton got suspended for the year, and he says ‘ignorance is no excuse,’ that’s going to come back to haunt him again,” Aikman said, via the Dallas Morning News. “That haunted him during the whole Ray Rice situation with he, himself, and now it’s going to haunt Roger Goodell in terms of what the punishment is for the New England Patriots and Bill Belichick. If ignorance is no excuse, and it wasn’t for Sean Payton. …[The Saints] did not give themselves a competitive advantage. Now twice, under Bill Belichick and possibly a third time, they’ve cheated and given themselves an advantage. To me, the punishment for the Patriots and/or Bill Belichick has to be more severe than what the punishment was for the New Orleans Saints.” |
- Troy Aikman
Madden tends to doubt you Tom
It's a process
I have always believed in integrity.
What nobody seems to understand is that Bountygate wasn't so much about cheating as it was the blatant disregard for player safety. People were getting hurt there, the penalty had to be severe in order to ensure that never happened again.
Deflategate? All that will ensure is that both teams start bringing a tire gauge to games.
Bizarro World...
This may not be the first time, just the first time caught.
Goodell's stewardship this past year has put him in a tight corner route with no chance of making the catch. Brady and BB can run for Congress anytime because they've already mastered the art of deniability, spin, and damage control.
Deflategate is at once laughable and pathetic. At least it takes the nation's mind off the fact that most of the rest of the world is going to hell in a handbasket.
This may not be the first time, just the first time caught.
Uh, in the second half of the Colt game Brady, per the NFL, used regulation sized balls. And had an even stellar second half throwing and scoring...
So much for your shaky theory...
I wish!
2. The officials inspect the balls 2 hours before the game, then hand them back to the teams who then can basically do whatever they want to them before the game begins.
3. They allow these lax processes despite knowing full well that players like to tweak the balls (deflate, inflate, put them in a washing machine, scrape them on cement, etc)
4. The NFL creates and environment where winning is the only thing that matters.
5. The NFL then acts surprised (and appalled) when something is not quite right.
yeh I don't know how one can be so sure about that the football is deflated between 10 and 12.5 PSI. Brady isn't a pressure gauge.. However it is surprising that a LB who has probably never isnpected a football was able to identify it was deflated in one touch of the ball and Brady who inspected 24 footballs that game and 16-24 footballs every game he has ever played wasn't able to feel the difference.
Also he held that same ball 30 times or so before the LB touched it once.. Kinda of hard to believe that a football inspector touched a ball 30 times and didn't recognize it and a complete amateur got it right in one try...
I expect kids and Pats fans to be naive.. not giants fans...
Because typically balls are scuffed/broken in to the QB's liking, and if they were purposely deflated, it would also be to the QB's liking. They're not going to do anything Brady isnt comfortable with, and the only way they know what he's comfortable with is by checking with him.
The league, wisely IMO, allows teams to make minor modifications (scuffing/breaking balls in) to make QBs more comfortable, but puts a limit (air pressure in this case) on the modifications to keep some uniformity.
I think its a good rule by the league, but the Pats just decided to go beyond to gain an advantage.
It is known that Brady likes a deflated ball. So, the lowest acceptable PSI is 12.5psi. So, lets assume that brady always has the balls at 12.5psi. Why wouldnt he? If that is what he prefers and it is the legal lowest limit, then always keep them at 12.5 psi right?
OK, so the balls tested out at half time at 11.5psi. So, the difference here is really ONE PSI. What you need to ask yourself is whether Brady would feel a ONE psi difference.,,,because he potentially always keeps the balls at 12.5psi.
How would it be possible that the balls could be tested at 12.5 and then somehow end up at 11.5 without anyone letting air out? What if the balls were kept extremely warm somehow in the locker room. At 100 degrees or more in a sauna or something like that. While at those elevated temps, the balls were adjusted to 12.5psi. and then immediately brought to the officials for testing. They temp test at 12.5. Now, they are outside and the temp is in the 40s or 50. The declining temp results in a drop in pressure naturally and without anyone actually removing the air. Who thinks this is possible? Not probable...but possible
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was involved? Obvious to suspect his involvement, maybe, but that's quite different.
yeh I don't know how one can be so sure about that the football is deflated between 10 and 12.5 PSI. Brady isn't a pressure gauge.. However it is surprising that a LB who has probably never isnpected a football was able to identify it was deflated in one touch of the ball and Brady who inspected 24 footballs that game and 16-24 footballs every game he has ever played wasn't able to feel the difference.
Also he held that same ball 30 times or so before the LB touched it once.. Kinda of hard to believe that a football inspector touched a ball 30 times and didn't recognize it and a complete amateur got it right in one try...
I expect kids and Pats fans to be naive.. not giants fans...
It wasnt the player from what I understand. After the INT the player gave the ball to Colts equip guys for keepsakes, and they're the ones that noticed, both in the regular season, and the AFCGC.
Didn't the Patriots videotape opponent's practices and not the sideline during a game which doesn't seem bad at all.
It is known that Brady likes a deflated ball. So, the lowest acceptable PSI is 12.5psi. So, lets assume that brady always has the balls at 12.5psi. Why wouldnt he? If that is what he prefers and it is the legal lowest limit, then always keep them at 12.5 psi right?
OK, so the balls tested out at half time at 11.5psi. So, the difference here is really ONE PSI. What you need to ask yourself is whether Brady would feel a ONE psi difference.,,,because he potentially always keeps the balls at 12.5psi.
How would it be possible that the balls could be tested at 12.5 and then somehow end up at 11.5 without anyone letting air out? What if the balls were kept extremely warm somehow in the locker room. At 100 degrees or more in a sauna or something like that. While at those elevated temps, the balls were adjusted to 12.5psi. and then immediately brought to the officials for testing. They temp test at 12.5. Now, they are outside and the temp is in the 40s or 50. The declining temp results in a drop in pressure naturally and without anyone actually removing the air. Who thinks this is possible? Not probable...but possible
I think they "scientificaly" astablished that the temperature alone wouldnt create that big of the difference.
You are one sick son-of-a-bitch.
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It wasnt the player from what I understand. After the INT the player gave the ball to Colts equip guys for keepsakes, and they're the ones that noticed, both in the regular season, and the AFCGC.
Exactly he gave it to them knowing this was most likely going on. This isn't D'Qwell's first interception.. he suspected that this has happened before... so and as soon as he got his hands on the ball he knew he should give it to someone who can verify it.. .meaning that Pats had been doing this for a while... giving even more credence to the fact that brady knew....
Yesterday there was an article that Ravens had informed Colts about this.
Has anyone, on BBI, inflated a football to spec, gripped it, then removed 2 psi, and then gripped it again? Can you notice a 15% drop? If yes, then would an NFL QB notice it?
Ding!
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It wasnt the player from what I understand. After the INT the player gave the ball to Colts equip guys for keepsakes, and they're the ones that noticed, both in the regular season, and the AFCGC.
Exactly he gave it to them knowing this was most likely going on. This isn't D'Qwell's first interception.. he suspected that this has happened before... so and as soon as he got his hands on the ball he knew he should give it to someone who can verify it.. .meaning that Pats had been doing this for a while... giving even more credence to the fact that brady knew....
Oh absolutely... from what it looks like, the AFCCG was not an isolated incident. I have very little doubt in my mind that Brady knew. The only reason to deflate the ball if to make it more comfortable/effective for Brady. And the only way to know what he likes is by him telling them where his comfort zone is
or as others have mentioned, maybe the concussions are catching up to him.
My only question to Troy would be is if he would have the same outrage against the Cowboys if they had done the same thing.
Because the temperature would have had to be about 40-50 degrees lower than it actually was in order for the ball to lose that much pressure.
As far as I know, the NFL doesn't calculate how much the temperature would reduce the air pressure of the footballs and correct the 12.5 to 13.5 psi range to compensate for the loss due to cold prior to the game. Shouldn't they? Otherwise, what's the point of declaring a lower limit if the cold will just automatically bypass it?
What was the pressure of the balls when the Giants played the Packers in Lambeau January 2008? The temp was in the negatives, Eli must have been throwing an illegal ball, too. Maybe Luck likes his at 13.5 psi and the temperature didn't bring it down below 12.5. But if Brady always wants his at 12.5, his balls will always be illegal in cold weather.
I'd like to see the PSI data of the 11 non-compliant balls. What the pre-game PSI was vs. the PSI when confiscated. And what the average delta was...
With all the attention this is getting, very unlikely the league can just give the Pats a slap on the wrist.
It is known that Brady likes a deflated ball. So, the lowest acceptable PSI is 12.5psi. So, lets assume that brady always has the balls at 12.5psi. Why wouldnt he? If that is what he prefers and it is the legal lowest limit, then always keep them at 12.5 psi right?
OK, so the balls tested out at half time at 11.5psi. So, the difference here is really ONE PSI. What you need to ask yourself is whether Brady would feel a ONE psi difference.,,,because he potentially always keeps the balls at 12.5psi.
How would it be possible that the balls could be tested at 12.5 and then somehow end up at 11.5 without anyone letting air out? What if the balls were kept extremely warm somehow in the locker room. At 100 degrees or more in a sauna or something like that. While at those elevated temps, the balls were adjusted to 12.5psi. and then immediately brought to the officials for testing. They temp test at 12.5. Now, they are outside and the temp is in the 40s or 50. The declining temp results in a drop in pressure naturally and without anyone actually removing the air. Who thinks this is possible? Not probable...but possible
I posted this theory on another thread before I read that you posted it here. I think if it's possible then it's probable.