Big Blue loves Ali Marpet

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Unless they've exhausted talent that can help them next year first?

conjunction with 'offensive line', I cringe. We've had so little success to show for it lately, I'm all for scrapping it altogether. Spend the later rounds on stuff we actually manage to do well with, leave the OL to earlier rounds or FA as the case may be.

I know he's a D3 kid but he didn't allow a sack last season. He won't be a tackle in the NFL but I could see him at LG. He's expected to run under 5.00 in the 40. Smart kid too. He's from Hastings-on-Hudson so the Giants should be able to get a free visit to MetLife for him in the spring.

In comment 12106550 jcn56 said:

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conjunction with 'offensive line', I cringe. We've had so little success to show for it lately, I'm all for scrapping it altogether. Spend the later rounds on stuff we actually manage to do well with, leave the OL to earlier rounds or FA as the case may be.

Where's the harm in a 7th?

I consider those picks practically disposable. Any higher than that, though...

perhaps.

As long as they have already taken a OL in the 1st 2 rounds bring him in.

big blue budget:

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sjnyfan : 12:21 pm : link
I know he's a D3 kid but he didn't allow a sack last season. He won't be a tackle in the NFL but I could see him at LG. He's expected to run under 5.00 in the 40. Smart kid too.

He's from Hastings-on-Hudson so the Giants should be able to get a free visit to MetLife for him in the spring.''

(lets hope thats not a huge factor)

In comment 12106575 idiotsavant said:

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big blue budget: ''I like his athleticsm sjnyfan : 12:21 pm : link I know he's a D3 kid but he didn't allow a sack last season. He won't be a tackle in the NFL but I could see him at LG. He's expected to run under 5.00 in the 40. Smart kid too. He's from Hastings-on-Hudson so the Giants should be able to get a free visit to MetLife for him in the spring.'' (lets hope thats not a huge factor)

It's not a money issue, you're limited in how many prospects you can bring in but the local ones don't count against that figure.

We need quality depth that can play in a pinch IMO.

for a flier

Haven't our first and second round OL picks been developmental lately? No thanks.

I would seriously hope that they don't limit potential draftees to people who have visited ...or met with in person at a location then.

That alone would kill any attempt to make it a rational process.

You would fail the numbers game and put the cart of need for the scouts to 'do their jobs ' in front of the horse of finding the best available for the team.

tons of tape and try to do visits with any and all.

but for late rounds, the number of possible picks being so very wide, and the course of any draft so unpredictable in the attempt to create a balanced draft and play the trends.

one would seriously -not- want to limit the pool of potential mid-late round draftees to those who had met with the scouts and team at some point.

you would simply fail to work the numbers

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Players who attend college or reside in a club’s “metropolitan area” can be given a physical examination without counting against the 30-player limit, unless the club provides transportation for the visit. Also, a player who attends college or whose hometown is in a club’s “metropolitan area” may be timed and tested at the club’s facility, as long as the club does not provide transportation. “Metropolitan area” is defined as contiguous suburbs. There isn’t a 25-mile, 50-mile, or any other type of mileage radius rule. The league office uses the 2011 Rand-McNally Road Atlas to determine the metropolitan area of a city.

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thanks. I get that part.

I am just saying. ..no idea what they do, however, IF they do this:

To limit the potential draftee pool on draft day to players that they had met with in person, or who worked out with one of our scouts etc etc,

would be an -extremely- self defeating protocol, given the great numbers of potential draftees and the many, many possibilities regarding how the draft breaks down positionally.

Let's forget about these project picks until round 6,7, the other pick in 7, comp pick if any,or UDFA.
Rds 1-3 need to contribute by mid season; 4-5 this season or early next season; we need the young bodies on the field.

I tend to feel that starters can and should be targeted in all rounds.

some positions may tend to be able to make the jump from small school to large better, some positions may rely on pure athleticism more than others.

but if you target tough footballers, not just athletes who happen to play football, and target proven reps of excellence, at whatever level, albeit being .0005 slower or shorter or lesser know schools...you have a better chance of finding players.

Some teams have more financial resources than others. A team like the Giants could definitely outdo a team like the Raiders or Bengals and get a better look at some of the mid or late round prospects. This is how they keep things even.

The other is to make sure some players don't get overworked and become more of a risk to injury.

guys get drafted without being interviewed by far.
Developmental offensive linemen with Eli being 35 doesn't make sense.

has the look to me of someone whom can start sooner than later.. and can be had 2nd to 3rd round.

and I agree. at this point one would want the very best, proven linesmen for the reason your stated and others.

For rounds 6 and 7 I would target pass receiving running backs, tight ends (we have 2 UDFAs right now as #1 and #2 on the roster?), maybe fullbacks,

Blue Horseshoe loves Bluestar Airlines. Got it?

undrafted free agent.

and 7 on 7 and after a rocky start he really took to the coaching and looked terrific. He's got game and is far less of a project than people think. He has excellent athletic ability and very good strength. What I liked best was his tenacity; he was relentless... An infinitely better prospect than Herman. How high will he go? Since he's no longer a secret he could move up a good bit.

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UDFA at best!

there's a reason he was invited to the Senior Bowl, he was obviously one of the better OTs in the country regardless of level of comp. Hope Giants take a chance on him later in the draft, even at 6, and he becomes another Larry Allen! Whom by the way came out of a small school program too. How often does it happen?, probably not very, but you never know and it appewars that he has the skillset and qualities you would want in a successful NFL Olineman. Sign me up too.

so, obviously, you build the line and want enough respect for the runners to garner those safety looks

you want tight ends that can do it all to a certain extent, and that includes pass protecting

...maybe the sweet spot in later rounds would be to repeat the following logic (in a modified cut and paste from BBI - and keeping in mind that Jennings might be injured again):

''The Giants signed Rashad Jennings as an unrestricted free agent from the Oakland Raiders in March 2014. Anointed the starting running back, Jennings was limited to 11 games with nine starts due to knee and ankle injuries. He finished the season with 639 rushing yards and four touchdowns on 167 carries (3.8 yards per carry) and 226 receiving yards on 30 receptions (7.5 yards per catch).

>>>Jennings was originally drafted in the >>7th round of the 2009 NFL Draft<<< by the Jacksonville Jaguars. He signed with the Raiders in 2013.

>>>Jennings is a big, physical, no-nonsense, north-south runner who does his best work >>between-the-tackles or off tackle.

>>>He is solid >>pass blocker and has good hands as a receiver. Jennings only has lost two fumbles in his career. He is a hard worker and a good presence in the locker room.

Jalston Fowler is he drops to a round level the management feels is appropriate.

CBS says 5th round, if he is there in 6...a piece of a puzzle. and someone who could probably help eli stay clean back there.

and a recieving RB

The CBA's 4 year to unrestricted FA for non-1st round picks means that you really should not consider investing a regular roster spot on any player who is going to take more than 1 year to develop.

The logic is that your team is acting as the farm team for another team if you approach development in any other way.

Playing G in the senior bowl.

In comment 12107420 Bob in Newburgh said:

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The CBA's 4 year to unrestricted FA for non-1st round picks means that you really should not consider investing a regular roster spot on any player who is going to take more than 1 year to develop. The logic is that your team is acting as the farm team for another team if you approach development in any other way.

You tell 'em, expert!