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Phil in Joisey : 1/23/2015 4:09 pm
Team Irvin vs Team Carter. Are you psyched?
Okay, I understand that AFC vs NFC was not drawing a very big audience or much interest. But Team Irvin vs Team Carter is something fans are supposed to give a damn about?
Seriously?
The players don't even get a trip to Hawaii. Why don't they just cancel the Pro Bowl and avoid the possibility of injuries
that might occur. Who the hell would miss it?
The game was pretty entertaining last year, for what it is  
ballanda : 1/23/2015 4:14 pm : link
A dome in a desert doesn't have the same panache as Honolulu though. It goes back to Aloha Stadium for at least the next 3 years after this year though.
how about doing it like baseball?  
I Love Clams Casino : 1/23/2015 4:15 pm : link
Between game 8 and 9, there is a break....all teams get their bye week during this week.

The Super Bowl home stadium is decided by the Pro Bowl winner, so the Super Bowl would be played in the home stadium of whichever conference wins.

Interested now?
scrapping the conferences  
area junc : 1/23/2015 4:16 pm : link
was another bonehead move by Goodell.

a slow-pitch softball game between the AFC and NFC would be fun to watch IMO. let the QBs pitch
Just wait. Everntually there's gonna have to be a  
ballanda : 1/23/2015 4:16 pm : link
Team RAY LEWIS!
Will not watch one minute of the game  
Matt M. : 1/23/2015 4:19 pm : link
and the only highlights I will view are if Beckham does something spectacular.
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Danny Kanell : 1/23/2015 4:20 pm : link
No one has ever come up with a real idea for an alternative to make the pro bowl exciting so why don't we just stop complaining about it and either watch it if it entertains us or not watch it if it doesn't?
i say no to clams casino  
Rocky369 : 1/23/2015 4:21 pm : link
plenty of players now opt out due to injury. if they get a chance to heal up and rest their sore bones during the season, they'd be all over it. I imagine it'd be like the NBA dunk contest, where the stars aren't necessarily there, just the first timers/early birds.
RE: scrapping the conferences  
Matt M. : 1/23/2015 4:21 pm : link
In comment 12106906 area junc said:
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was another bonehead move by Goodell.

a slow-pitch softball game between the AFC and NFC would be fun to watch IMO. let the QBs pitch

Slow pitch softball isn't fun to wtch anyone play and even less fun to play in yourself. I could never understand why they usually force an actual pitcher to pitch in these celebrity games when it is slow pitch. It's almost insulting.
and one more  
Rocky369 : 1/23/2015 4:22 pm : link
bring back the skills challenge. that was actually fun to watch and they tried, even just for bragging rights. i'm sure darrell green would come.
RE: how about doing it like baseball?  
Nick in LA : 1/23/2015 4:26 pm : link
In comment 12106904 I Love Clams Casino said:
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Between game 8 and 9, there is a break....all teams get their bye week during this week.

The Super Bowl home stadium is decided by the Pro Bowl winner, so the Super Bowl would be played in the home stadium of whichever conference wins.

Interested now?


No on the Super Bowl deciding factor but I have been saying for years that every team should have the same bye week to make sure the competitive balance is the same.
RE: RE: scrapping the conferences  
jcn56 : 1/23/2015 4:30 pm : link
In comment 12106917 Matt M. said:
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In comment 12106906 area junc said:


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was another bonehead move by Goodell.

a slow-pitch softball game between the AFC and NFC would be fun to watch IMO. let the QBs pitch


Slow pitch softball isn't fun to wtch anyone play and even less fun to play in yourself. I could never understand why they usually force an actual pitcher to pitch in these celebrity games when it is slow pitch. It's almost insulting.


Ah yes, but have you ever played competitive slow pitch softball? You know, where you DEMAND to win?
jcn  
Matt M. : 1/23/2015 4:34 pm : link
I'm not sure, but fairly certain you are being facetious. But, I have played in a variety of softball leagues. Some have been very competitive with actually a high level of talent. These were fast pitch or modified where some guys brought in the 70s, which is pretty damn fast at softball distances. I've also played in co-ed beer leagues which I ended up hating and being bored in. But, I absolutely refuse slow pitch...assuming that is the same as the arcing pitches. That is not any fun at all.
RE: scrapping the conferences  
Chris in Philly : 1/23/2015 4:37 pm : link
In comment 12106906 area junc said:
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was another bonehead move by Goodell.

a slow-pitch softball game between the AFC and NFC would be fun to watch IMO. let the QBs pitch


Yeah, but how SERIOUS would those games be?
RE: jcn  
jcn56 : 1/23/2015 4:41 pm : link
In comment 12106931 Matt M. said:
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I'm not sure, but fairly certain you are being facetious. But, I have played in a variety of softball leagues. Some have been very competitive with actually a high level of talent. These were fast pitch or modified where some guys brought in the 70s, which is pretty damn fast at softball distances. I've also played in co-ed beer leagues which I ended up hating and being bored in. But, I absolutely refuse slow pitch...assuming that is the same as the arcing pitches. That is not any fun at all.


Hehe, sorry Matt, I was being facetious. I was referring to an old poster we had way back in the day, known for his bowling over of women during intense slow pitch softball games.
RE: RE: jcn  
Chris in Philly : 1/23/2015 4:42 pm : link
In comment 12106940 jcn56 said:
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In comment 12106931 Matt M. said:


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I'm not sure, but fairly certain you are being facetious. But, I have played in a variety of softball leagues. Some have been very competitive with actually a high level of talent. These were fast pitch or modified where some guys brought in the 70s, which is pretty damn fast at softball distances. I've also played in co-ed beer leagues which I ended up hating and being bored in. But, I absolutely refuse slow pitch...assuming that is the same as the arcing pitches. That is not any fun at all.



Hehe, sorry Matt, I was being facetious. I was referring to an old poster we had way back in the day, known for his bowling over of women during intense slow pitch softball games.


jcn  
Matt M. : 1/23/2015 4:47 pm : link
I do recall that thread. This is why I do not like most modified leagues, co-ed leagues, beer leagues, etc. I actually like to play competitively, or at least as competitively as softball allows. The modified and similar leagues were not fun. I didn't like reigning it in and it was too easy. the last league I played in was a co-ed beer league. I actually averaged less than 1 swing per AB. I either swung and put the ball in play or I walked (mostly intentionally). I hit something like over .800. It just wasn't fun.

But, we had one dick on our team similar to the poster you referenced. We were playing a team that was just terrible. Even when we tried to help them by stopping at first and laying it in when pitching, we were up by double digits in the first or second inning (I don't recall if there was a mercy rule). One guy on our team, after we were way ahead and it was clear this team wasn't likely to even get a player to 2B, he hits a very routine ball that the 2B misses and he just doesn't stop running. The RF bungles it and throws wildly then they throw wildly to 3B when he turns for 3B and he ends up scoring. He was pissed at us when we weren't giving him high fives for his "HR". He was a real douchebag. He ended packing it up when we let him have and claimed to have to be somewhere, but he was just sulking.
Anything that gives more air time  
Doomster : 1/23/2015 4:52 pm : link
to Carter or to Irvin, can't be good for football......
RE: Anything that gives more air time  
Chris in Philly : 1/23/2015 4:55 pm : link
In comment 12106952 Doomster said:
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to Carter or to Irvin, can't be good for football......


Or the English language...
Met my wife  
BobOnLI : 1/23/2015 4:55 pm : link
playing slow pitch softball. She played 2nd base I was in center field. How romantic is that!
RE: how about doing it like baseball?  
Mike from Ohio : 1/23/2015 4:58 pm : link
In comment 12106904 I Love Clams Casino said:
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Between game 8 and 9, there is a break....all teams get their bye week during this week.

The Super Bowl home stadium is decided by the Pro Bowl winner, so the Super Bowl would be played in the home stadium of whichever conference wins.

Interested now?


Not even a little. Horrible idea.
If they were going to  
SoZKillA : 1/23/2015 5:25 pm : link
Do it to determine the "home" team in the Super Bowl, then it should be like this.

AFC vs NFC, whatever conference wins gets to be the "home" team in NEXT years Super Bowl.

Example: Let's say the NFC wins, then the Seahawks will be the "home" team in the Super Bowl next year if they make it.
they should play it  
natefit : 1/23/2015 5:29 pm : link
with deflated balls as an experiment
RE: jcn  
Amtoft : 1/23/2015 5:46 pm : link
In comment 12106947 Matt M. said:
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I do recall that thread. This is why I do not like most modified leagues, co-ed leagues, beer leagues, etc. I actually like to play competitively, or at least as competitively as softball allows. The modified and similar leagues were not fun. I didn't like reigning it in and it was too easy. the last league I played in was a co-ed beer league. I actually averaged less than 1 swing per AB. I either swung and put the ball in play or I walked (mostly intentionally). I hit something like over .800. It just wasn't fun.

But, we had one dick on our team similar to the poster you referenced. We were playing a team that was just terrible. Even when we tried to help them by stopping at first and laying it in when pitching, we were up by double digits in the first or second inning (I don't recall if there was a mercy rule). One guy on our team, after we were way ahead and it was clear this team wasn't likely to even get a player to 2B, he hits a very routine ball that the 2B misses and he just doesn't stop running. The RF bungles it and throws wildly then they throw wildly to 3B when he turns for 3B and he ends up scoring. He was pissed at us when we weren't giving him high fives for his "HR". He was a real douchebag. He ended packing it up when we let him have and claimed to have to be somewhere, but he was just sulking.


I enjoy playing softball. It is fun going out there and competing. My favorite leagues have been the wood bat leagues. You can't go up there and mash the ball 350 feet. You have to really place the ball well. I also play for a Co-Ed team (guys swing wood bats) and I can tell you many of the girls that play are the best players out there. Of course that isn't beer co-ed league so it may be different.

As for your most were "intentional walks" thing in Co-Ed I have to call ummm no. If you walk a guy he gets 2 bases in all leagues thus you don't walk a guy if you can and depending on the rules if you walk a guy in utrip tournies, for an example, the Girl is an auto walk also. While in most leagues ASA with 2 outs girls are auto walks.

To each there own though.
RE: Met my wife  
Peter in Atl : 1/23/2015 6:44 pm : link
In comment 12106956 BobOnLI said:
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playing slow pitch softball. She played 2nd base I was in center field. How romantic is that!


What were you looking at?
Agree with area  
Red Dog : 1/23/2015 7:15 pm : link
Scrapping the conferences was really dumb.

I used to watch the Pro Bowl if I didn't have something better to do, but this year I will definitely have something better to do. Maybe changing the air in my trailer tires or polishing the spitoon.
they're doing  
BigBlueCane : 1/23/2015 7:22 pm : link
pretty much anything they can to increase interest in it. At this point, I'm not sure there is anything that could renew interest in the Pro Bowl though.

As a concept, it's pretty out-dated.
RE: and one more  
eli4life : 1/23/2015 7:30 pm : link
In comment 12106918 Rocky369 said:
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bring back the skills challenge. that was actually fun to watch and they tried, even just for bragging rights. i'm sure darrell green would come.


I miss those I remember Cunningham had a Canon for an arm
You would have pay me to watch the Pro Bowl game  
Steve in South Jersey : 1/23/2015 7:41 pm : link
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I'd watch it if Eli were playing.  
Marty in Albany : 1/23/2015 7:47 pm : link
If there are any Beckham highlights they'll be on Giant.com. I can wait.
RE: they're doing  
Mad Mike : 1/23/2015 8:43 pm : link
In comment 12107073 BigBlueCane said:
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pretty much anything they can to increase interest in it. At this point, I'm not sure there is anything that could renew interest in the Pro Bowl though.

As a concept, it's pretty out-dated.

While it may be outdated, it's hardly in need of renewed interest. It gets fantastic ratings, and if people are willing to tune in for that crapfest, the nfl is happy to serve it up.
I will probably tune in to watch  
ChathamMark : 1/23/2015 8:51 pm : link
but have NO IDEA how this works anymore. No NFC/AFC. Teams get drafted by ESPN announcers? It's become reality TV, I guess...
Idk where you get  
Big Rick in FL : 1/23/2015 9:46 pm : link
That it wasn't drawing a big audience. I believe I just read that every Pro Bowl for the last 10 years had more viewers then the last game of the NBA Finals, NFL Finals & I believe the article said World Series.

Idk why everybody here hates it. It's a game voted by the fans that has no meaning at all except most of the time recognizing the best players that year.

It means absolutely nothing and is a contact sport unlike basketball and baseball so obviously these guys are going to go all out to play Defense and hit/hurt their friends in a game that has no meaning.

I personally like it. I don't mind watching the offense score a ton of points. It's essentially a dream team. Going to have Romo with DeMarco Murray, Odell Beckham Jr, Emmanuel Sanders and Jimmy Graham on the field together. That's awesome to watch such skilled players on the same team. Most on here just like to bitch about everything. Who cares? How does the game effect you? If you don't like it then don't watch it. Nobody is forcing you to watch. It's quite simple. Also please quit bitching about Odell getting injured. I can't remember the last time a player suffered a serious injury such as a torn ACL in a Pro Bowl game.
Recent Pro Bowl tv ratings headed down................  
Phil in Joisey : 1/23/2015 11:39 pm : link
The NFL tweaked the Pro Bowl in 2014, electing for a draft between Deion Sanders and Jerry Rice instead of the usual division between conferences; however, the ratings for the game continued to free fall.
Seth Kaplan of FOX 9 News in Minnesota reported that the game received 11.7 million viewers on Sunday, which was a half-million fewer than the 12.2 million viewers the game received in 2013. There were 12.5 million viewers in 2012, per Kaplan.
Really should just be a skills competition at this point.  
Geomon : 1/23/2015 11:49 pm : link
Throwing balls through hoops and shit like that.
Phil  
Big Rick in FL : 1/23/2015 11:50 pm : link
Yeah they might be getting smaller, but they are still huge ratings for a meaningless game. Game 5 of the 2014 NBA Finals also had 11.7 million viewers. When you look at that it's absurd that a game with no meaning at all has the same viewers as a game for an NBA title that including the best player in ball and a guy who will probably go down as the 2nd best ever. The best PF ever in Duncan. Also 4 other first ballot HOFers in Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen & Tony Parker.
Big Rick  
Phil in Joisey : 1/25/2015 1:00 pm : link
You're right that 11.7 million viewers is a big audience and is nothing to sniff at.
However, I don't know where you looked up your NBA numbers, but the 2014 Finals did quite a bit better than the number you quoted according to what I found on Google..........


NEW YORK -- The San Antonio Spurs' redemption title was a big hit with television viewers.

Nearly 18 million viewers tuned in to watch the Spurs clinch in Game 5 on Sunday night. That's a 10 percent increase from Game 5 between the same teams last year. Nielsen says viewership peaked at 22.4 million in the last half hour of the Spurs' 104-87 win.
I never give much of a damn about the Pro Bowl...  
arcarsenal : 1/25/2015 1:02 pm : link
But I miss watching OBJ so much that I am actually going to watch tonight just so I can see him play ball one last time before September.
Senior Bowl winner vs all-rookie NFLers.  
Sarcastic Sam : 1/25/2015 1:28 pm : link
Coached by veteran Pro Bowlers.

Either that, or NFC vs AFC at bowling.
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