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NFT: Woman gets 4 years in prison for trying to join ISIS

superspynyg : 1/24/2015 8:56 am
Damn right. Finally they stop taking pity on these traitors or wanna be traitors. I am 100% in favor of revoking ANYONE's US citizenship who tries to join a terrorist group. Let her rot for 4 years.


She wanted to become muslim and she never even read the whole Quaran. Dumbass.

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Pretty obvious she  
mrvax : 1/24/2015 9:00 am : link
is a very gullible "loser type" that hung onto whomever seemed to accept her. Sad, in this case, IMO.

She probably should have become a nun.
What the f*** is it about these gullible loser types  
jcn56 : 1/24/2015 9:20 am : link
that they never latch on to a halfway decent cause for a purpose and some attention? Does the Peace Corps have to start making propaganda videos?
Cue the interview with a dumbshit dad...  
Dunedin81 : 1/24/2015 9:23 am : link
insisting he didn't know what his son or daughter was up to and little Jimmy/Jenny would never hurt a fly.
RE: Cue the interview with a dumbshit dad...  
jgambrosio : 1/24/2015 9:26 am : link
In comment 12107358 Dunedin81 said:
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insisting he didn't know what his son or daughter was up to and little Jimmy/Jenny would never hurt a fly.


What's worse is actually her parents' comments:

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Later her parents released a statement online criticizing the U.S. legal system for making an example of their daughter in trying to discourage others from turning to extremism. If "the government is willing to sacrifice the future of a 19-year-old American citizen to drive the point home ... then we feel the terrorists have won this particular battle in the war on terrorism."
RE: RE: Cue the interview with a dumbshit dad...  
superspynyg : 1/24/2015 9:30 am : link
In comment 12107360 jgambrosio said:
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In comment 12107358 Dunedin81 said:


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insisting he didn't know what his son or daughter was up to and little Jimmy/Jenny would never hurt a fly.



What's worse is actually her parents' comments:



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Later her parents released a statement online criticizing the U.S. legal system for making an example of their daughter in trying to discourage others from turning to extremism. If "the government is willing to sacrifice the future of a 19-year-old American citizen to drive the point home ... then we feel the terrorists have won this particular battle in the war on terrorism."




And he lost the battle of raising a decent child. What bothers me is that these "lost children" don't even read the religion's most holy book. They go off internet posts and websites.
false dichotomy?  
Deej : 1/24/2015 9:34 am : link
who were the previous people "they" were taking pity on?
Drop her off in Iraq  
rdt288 : 1/24/2015 9:38 am : link
Call it a day
There are plenty of very devout Christians...  
Dunedin81 : 1/24/2015 9:43 am : link
who haven't read the Good Book cover to cover, and for much of the history of both faiths the great majority of the faithful were illiterate, I'm not sure that matters all that much.
Her dad found her  
LS : 1/24/2015 9:50 am : link
airline ticket to Turkey and turned her in to the FBI.
Then why turn her into the FBI  
buford : 1/24/2015 10:07 am : link
if you didn't want her charged? She's 19 not 14. She's an adult. She will probably get out in 2 years or less. Maybe she needs time to think about what she was going to do.
Surprised they even put her in prison.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/24/2015 10:08 am : link
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She's obviously a nut  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 1/24/2015 10:16 am : link
Not sure what's gained by putting her in prison.
If she is just a nut,  
LS : 1/24/2015 10:24 am : link
there are millions of nuts out there like her.
RE: She's obviously a nut  
natefit : 1/24/2015 10:34 am : link
In comment 12107406 Gary from The East End said:
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Not sure what's gained by putting her in prison.

Agreed but I think we are sending a msg to those considering the same twisted path.
RE: RE: She's obviously a nut  
Dunedin81 : 1/24/2015 10:37 am : link
In comment 12107430 natefit said:
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Not sure what's gained by putting her in prison.


Agreed but I think we are sending a msg to those considering the same twisted path.


It was her aim to join an entity that we understand to be terrorist. Nutter or naif, her actions could have led to the deaths of innocent people, or Western military members. If she had simply attached herself to a street gang and been in the wrong place at the wrong time nobody would think twice about putting her in jail.
Putting nuts in jail for being nuts  
Headhunter : 1/24/2015 10:47 am : link
doesn't seem to be a long term solution. Wouldn't a psychiatric facility make more sense?
RE: Putting nuts in jail for being nuts  
Dunedin81 : 1/24/2015 10:52 am : link
In comment 12107443 Headhunter said:
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doesn't seem to be a long term solution. Wouldn't a psychiatric facility make more sense?


How nuts is she though? Did she know it was a questionable and likely illegal decision to join a violent fundamentalist organization renowned for butchery and terrorism? Probably. Plenty of people we send to jail for crime, particularly for violent crime, are crazier than they are evil. Before she is given a ticket to the nuthouse rather than jail some of them should be.
RE: Cue the interview with a dumbshit dad...  
baadbill : 1/24/2015 11:08 am : link
In comment 12107358 Dunedin81 said:
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insisting he didn't know what his son or daughter was up to and little Jimmy/Jenny would never hurt a fly.


In fairness, her dad is the one who called the FBI.
Um I don't have a clue how nuts she is  
Headhunter : 1/24/2015 11:18 am : link
but they can do a psychiatric evaluation to determine that and figure out if she is nuts and evil or just nuts
yes she hadnt read the Quran fully at the time  
muhajir : 1/24/2015 11:54 am : link
"Since my incarceration I have had a chance to read the entire Quran," she said. She concluded that "the scholars" she had been following in her online research about Islam had distorted the Quran, she said."

The judge agreed she needed psychiatric care but still decided to throw her in jail as an example to others anyway?
She isn't nuts  
buford : 1/24/2015 12:03 pm : link
she's young and impetuous and stupid. She would have been crying to go home after week one.
buford  
Headhunter : 1/24/2015 12:04 pm : link
with her PhD in Psychiatry weighs in
Joining ISIS = 4 years prison  
ChemDawg1990 : 1/24/2015 12:10 pm : link
Selling over 5 pounds of marijuana = 5-10 years in prison.

19 yr old  
muhajir : 1/24/2015 12:10 pm : link
TEENAGER with psychiatric problems gets 4 yrs in prison for 'wanting' to join Isis. Anyone else see anything horribly wrong with that?
Dumb  
moespree : 1/24/2015 12:24 pm : link
I don't see anything gained by putting a 19 year old who very likely has something wrong with her mentally, in prison. This entire century has been filled with stupid decisions and stupid overreactions.
RE: 19 yr old  
jcn56 : 1/24/2015 12:27 pm : link
In comment 12107539 muhajir said:
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TEENAGER with psychiatric problems gets 4 yrs in prison for 'wanting' to join Isis. Anyone else see anything horribly wrong with that?


What you call 'teenager' I call 'adult'. She's over 18, immaturity is not an excuse for treasonous behavior.
I usually am pretty liberal  
JerryNYG : 1/24/2015 12:31 pm : link
But I have a hard time finding any reason why she should not face prison time for her actions. In fact, it seems kind of light. Isn't it treason to attempt to join an organization that is waging war against the secular Western world, including America?
RE: Dumb  
jcn56 : 1/24/2015 12:32 pm : link
In comment 12107549 moespree said:
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I don't see anything gained by putting a 19 year old who very likely has something wrong with her mentally, in prison. This entire century has been filled with stupid decisions and stupid overreactions.


You base your diagnosis on what, exactly? So far, she's guilty of abject stupidity, and plenty of people have done time in prison for that offense.

Anyone who joins a criminal or terrorist organization should be imprisoned. The fact that she claims she wasn't out to hurt anyone is laughable, she joined an organization known for chopping people's heads off in graphic manner and putting the videos out for everyone to see. There's no hidden or subtle nature to it, she wanted to join a bunch of animals and she deserves to be locked up to spend some time thinking about her stupid decision.
RE: I usually am pretty liberal  
jcn56 : 1/24/2015 12:34 pm : link
In comment 12107560 JerryNYG said:
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But I have a hard time finding any reason why she should not face prison time for her actions. In fact, it seems kind of light. Isn't it treason to attempt to join an organization that is waging war against the secular Western world, including America?


If she were a 19 year old from the ghetto locked up for joining the Crips or Bloods and vowing to take part in some of their rituals, not only would we have not heard of her, but if we did, nobody would care.

It's time to go after the weak minded who fall for bullshit like this.
jcn  
muhajir : 1/24/2015 12:37 pm : link
Her diagnoses is based on the judges own words. We're not assuming she has psych problems.
The judge himself stopped short of saying she's got mental issues  
jcn56 : 1/24/2015 12:42 pm : link
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Moore interrupted the prosecutor at one point saying, "That woman is in need of psychiatric help."

"I'm not saying that her decisions were all a product of mental illness. ... But she's a bit of a mess," Moore said.

The judge referenced Conley's psychiatric report that stated "she is not a terrorist."

The judge also alluded to a series of events from 2011 to her arrest in 2014.

"There is a history of events that would make for a bad movie," Moore said.

Conley almost agreed to marry three different people in a matter of months, according to Moore.

The prosecutor said Conley was "pathologically naive."

Added the judge: "She has no history in the criminal justice system. She is very young. ... Teenagers make dumb decisions a lot.'


Obviously, he's trying to CYA what some people might have felt was a light verdict, given that she was essentially conspiring to assist a terrorist organization on US soil. To some people, that's treason, and she deserved a bullet.

Four years sounds just right to me - she can play naive, innocent, etc. all she wants. She didn't join the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, she joined a terrorist organization very publicly known for their violent acts against America. No amount of naivete can excuse that.
jcn  
muhajir : 1/24/2015 12:55 pm : link
You wrote the 'judge stopped short of saying she has mental issues' then quoted the judge specifically saying she needs psychiatric help. I dont understand that.

Also are you assuming that the judge made up the whole psych thing just so she wouldnt get criticized for the ruling? That sounds like nonsense used to completely erase the psych issue from the story.
Meh...  
RC02XX : 1/24/2015 4:43 pm : link
She isn't the first or the last mentally/psychologically weak/impaired individual to buy into the propaganda of an extremist organization. Just because she's a young female doesn't make it any different from a young male buying into ISIS and trying to get to the Middle East to join ISIS as either a fighter or a wife of a fighter.

She's actuallu getting off easy with the four years sentence as opposed to longer sentence for her male counterparts charged with similar offenses.
Female privilege!  
buford : 1/24/2015 5:40 pm : link
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The bar for NGBROI is extremely high...  
Dunedin81 : 1/24/2015 5:48 pm : link
I'd wager a guess a majority of incarcerated criminals have mental health issues, substance abuse issues or both. She is an adult, even if she is a naive one, and she was "there" enough to buy plane tickets to Turkey. Angsty, lost young woman is hardly more deserving of your sympathies than the kid from the ghetto who dealt with physical abuse growing up, and that kid probably won't make headlines.
She should have her head sawed off with a wal mart steak knife  
Chef : 1/24/2015 6:57 pm : link
video taped and aired on the net.... kinda like they do
RE: jcn  
jcn56 : 1/25/2015 12:15 am : link
In comment 12107583 muhajir said:
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You wrote the 'judge stopped short of saying she has mental issues' then quoted the judge specifically saying she needs psychiatric help. I dont understand that.

Also are you assuming that the judge made up the whole psych thing just so she wouldnt get criticized for the ruling? That sounds like nonsense used to completely erase the psych issue from the story.


Because the judge has no more right to claim she's got psychiatric issues than you or I do, he's got no training as a psychiatrist. And still, he managed to throw in that he didn't believe her actions were the result of mental issues.

The only reason he has to even mention it is to justify the relatively short length of her sentence.
Oh, the unintentional irony is strong...  
Wuphat : 1/25/2015 8:41 am : link
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She wanted to become muslim and she never even read the whole Quaran. Dumbass


RE: Oh, the unintentional irony is strong...  
BMac : 1/25/2015 9:22 am : link
In comment 12108301 Wuphat said:
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She wanted to become muslim and she never even read the whole Quaran. Dumbass




The Force is strong in this one!
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