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Rumor: Walton to be cut as well

Vin_Cuccs : 1/24/2015 9:03 pm
Again, just a rumor, do not shoot the messenger.

From the same source as before. He has been right in the past, and he has also been wrong in the past.

Just to elaborate on my source: a very, very close friend of mine is an attorney in the city. A few of the other attorneys in that office double as sports agents so they have some inside info and connections with their clients as well as other sports agents.

Anyway, he said the team will also cut J.D. Walton in an attempt to save cap space. Apparently the plan all along was to integrate Richburg slowly into the lineup. Walton was a veteran option just in case but when injuries hit the line, he was forced into the starting line as a guard. The team felt more comfortable with Richburg at guard than center. The plan moving forward is Richburg a center.

Again, this is just a rumor.

My guy said he may have some more info tonight/tomorrow as well as later in the offseason as well.

As long a everyone is alright with these unconfirmed rumors, I will keep posting them as I get them.
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We're  
AcidTest : 1/24/2015 9:05 pm : link
fine with them. Even if they turn out to be wrong. Keep going. Thanks.
thanks, definitely  
pjcas18 : 1/24/2015 9:05 pm : link
keep posting them.

Anyone that has a problem with them doesn't have to click the thread, you are very clear this is a rumor.

so far the three cuts you mentioned, many people on here have speculated about so there not much surprise with these.
Graziano posted Beason and Walton were possible  
Jints in Carolina : 1/24/2015 9:05 pm : link
cuts earlier today so I am not sure how much of this is inside info...but thanks.
keep em coming  
WeatherMan : 1/24/2015 9:06 pm : link
I hope this one is right, Walton was part of the problem last season.
RE: keep em coming  
Danny Kanell : 1/24/2015 9:07 pm : link
In comment 12108056 WeatherMan said:
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I hope this one is right, Walton was part of the problem last season.


Agreed.
Thanks Vin  
sjnyfan : 1/24/2015 9:10 pm : link
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When did they say Suh was in the plans?  
Giants2012 : 1/24/2015 9:11 pm : link
Get the best DT
oh and keep posting the rumors!  
Jints in Carolina : 1/24/2015 9:13 pm : link
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Thanks Vin  
Matt in SGS : 1/24/2015 9:14 pm : link
this all sounds very logical if you look at what the Giants have done the past few years. One of the first moves they make in the offseason, after they settle the coaching staff, is they look at the injury prone/over priced veterans and clear them out almost immediately. It does two things, it frees up cap space right away for free agency, but also it helps these guys either go look for another job, or set up for a renegotiation at a lower cap hit.

Beason, Kiwi, and Walton all fit the bill that you have described.
I dunno-  
mrvax : 1/24/2015 9:16 pm : link
Who would be Richburg's backup? Not sure of anyone ele that can fill in at center with any NFL experience. Can Schwartz do it? Even then, you don't want to disrupt 2 positions should Richburg go down.
Amazing that Walton and Jerry  
bceagle05 : 1/24/2015 9:17 pm : link
started every game last year and Eli lived to tell about it. Guess they were better pass blockers than run blockers.
to be honest  
Matt in SGS : 1/24/2015 9:18 pm : link
and I like the guy and he's been a positive member of the Giants and in the community, but Steve Weatherford is due to be over a $3 million cap hit. That's a big chunk of change for a punter. I know he renegotiated his deal a year or so back, but I could see the Giants looking to move him on and bringing in a punter at less money. Or, knowing how much he has been setting up his post-football life in the NY media, they might outright cut him and bring him back at a lower salary, because it would be worth it to him and his family to stay.
RE: I dunno-  
Klaatu : 1/24/2015 9:21 pm : link
In comment 12108072 mrvax said:
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Who would be Richburg's backup? Not sure of anyone ele that can fill in at center with any NFL experience. Can Schwartz do it? Even then, you don't want to disrupt 2 positions should Richburg go down.


My guess is Adam Gettis.
None of these rumored cuts  
illmatic : 1/24/2015 9:22 pm : link
would bother me in the slightest. Get rid of the average, overpaid players and clear that cap space.
Walton is terrible.  
arcarsenal : 1/24/2015 9:22 pm : link
Let's hope it's true.
Thanks for sharing  
rdt288 : 1/24/2015 9:23 pm : link
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If the cut Walton it's because  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/24/2015 9:24 pm : link
He can't back up at any other position than C. He's not that expensive but if Richberg is. Going to C whoever is the back up C he will also have to be a back up a G.
RE: to be honest  
Fish : 1/24/2015 9:25 pm : link
In comment 12108075 Matt in SGS said:
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and I like the guy and he's been a positive member of the Giants and in the community, but Steve Weatherford is due to be over a $3 million cap hit. That's a big chunk of change for a punter. I know he renegotiated his deal a year or so back, but I could see the Giants looking to move him on and bringing in a punter at less money. Or, knowing how much he has been setting up his post-football life in the NY media, they might outright cut him and bring him back at a lower salary, because it would be worth it to him and his family to stay.


Better have a replacement in place that's steady. I can't go through having a bad punter again. Lol.
I  
AcidTest : 1/24/2015 9:25 pm : link
know this sounds crazy, but I wonder if Herman won't be given a chance to make the team as a backup center. I think I read that the Giants were having him learn the position. The other options of course are to get a veteran backup, or draft a center late. The former seems more likely.
Matt in SGS  
Vin_Cuccs : 1/24/2015 9:25 pm : link
Agree on Weatherford. Awesome and funny guy but his play has declined the past few years. I wonder if Malone has a legitimate shot to beat him out over the summer.

Malone was pretty solid when he was with the Jets.
People complain  
Dave in Buffalo : 1/24/2015 9:26 pm : link
But I love this time of the year. Let the asshatery begin!!!
His played  
Fish : 1/24/2015 9:26 pm : link
Declined because of a bum ankle.
I do understand that none of these moves are earth shattering.  
Vin_Cuccs : 1/24/2015 9:27 pm : link
But I wanted to share the info anyways.
so why the fuck did they not give Richburg  
SHO'NUFF : 1/24/2015 9:27 pm : link
any burn at Center when the games didn't matter?
Fish  
Vin_Cuccs : 1/24/2015 9:27 pm : link
I know he was injured but even two years ago he had a pretty mediocre season.
RE: If the cut Walton it's because  
pjcas18 : 1/24/2015 9:29 pm : link
In comment 12108082 LauderdaleMatty said:
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He can't back up at any other position than C. He's not that expensive but if Richberg is. Going to C whoever is the back up C he will also have to be a back up a G.


they save $3M on the cap if they cut Walton, with minimal dead space (relatively speaking).

That's enough to cut him even if they do want to re-sign him as a backup. I don't think most teams are paying 3.6M for a backup O-lineman.
a bum ankle because Quinn, who apparently is made of Teflon,  
SHO'NUFF : 1/24/2015 9:30 pm : link
couldn't protect him.
And at 3 million I agree  
Fish : 1/24/2015 9:32 pm : link
It makes sense but must have a decent replacement.
Vin ...  
Beer Man : 1/24/2015 9:35 pm : link
Its the off-season and we are thirsty for information. Please keep it coming.
RE: I do understand that none of these moves are earth shattering.  
River Mike : 1/24/2015 9:41 pm : link
In comment 12108089 Vin_Cuccs said:
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But I wanted to share the info anyways.


Sharing is good.
RE: so why the fuck did they not give Richburg  
blueblood : 1/24/2015 10:04 pm : link
In comment 12108090 SHO'NUFF said:
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any burn at Center when the games didn't matter?


who was going to play left guard ??
Could see this happening  
Pat from Inside Football : 1/24/2015 10:37 pm : link
I also could see Weatherford being asked to take a pay cut, but I don't think he gets lopped off the roster. I would also be stunned if Beason is lopped off the roster.

I would think that management would give Beason & Weatherford a chance to take a pay cut. If they refuse, then they're gone. But I'd be surprised if that happens.
Hasn't Herman practiced at center? And Reynolds  
ij_reilly : 1/24/2015 10:45 pm : link
I think Herman has been tried at center (not in a game, obviously).

Dallas Reynolds is a center too.

So, we could be looking at OC depth chart of Richburg, Reynolds, Herman.


I can see the Walton thing happening  
Mike in Philly : 1/24/2015 10:55 pm : link
because like Kiwi, as stated in a previous thread, the cap savings for Walton does not change regardless if it is a pre- or post- June 1st. But for Beason, waiting for post June 1st is worth another 1.5 million in cap space.
RE: Could see this happening  
AcidTest : 1/24/2015 11:25 pm : link
In comment 12108156 Pat from Inside Football said:
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I also could see Weatherford being asked to take a pay cut, but I don't think he gets lopped off the roster. I would also be stunned if Beason is lopped off the roster.

I would think that management would give Beason & Weatherford a chance to take a pay cut. If they refuse, then they're gone. But I'd be surprised if that happens.


I would let Beason go, but wouldn't at all be surprised if he's first asked to take a pay cut. Same for Weatherford, although I'm sure the Giants appreciate how he gutted it out on a bad ankle last season. I frankly thought they should have put him on IR once the season was done.
you can sign a vet backup center  
blueblood : 1/24/2015 11:35 pm : link
for less than 3 million
Clearing cap space  
TMS : 1/24/2015 11:41 pm : link
to give Reese another chance at fixing this mess on the Ol and elsewhere. Maybe this time the FA replacements can remain healthy enough to do some good. Unless they are losers their teams just wanted rid of. This front office does not get good grades in this area for the last 5/6 years.
nice work Vin  
HomerJones45 : 1/24/2015 11:42 pm : link
Keep them coming and thanks
Goodnight J.D.  
Stufftherun : 1/25/2015 12:08 am : link
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This is a risky cut if true.....  
Dry Lightning : 1/25/2015 12:17 am : link
I don't think Walton is a horrible center. I think he graded out as average all season. No question the team should upgrade, and Richburg needs to play. I just don't think it is a horrible idea to keep him around next year, even at his salary. We have no depth on the line. What if Richburg gets hurt? Also remember this guy did not play for two years. Perhaps he improves with a year to knock off the rust. I would not cu him unless and until viable depth is obtained.
I question these rumors  
Milton : 1/25/2015 12:44 am : link
Only because I think there is a middle ground between letting Walton, Kiwanuka, and Beason play under their current contracts and cutting them outright. Would you cut Walton if he agreed to play under a minimum salary this year (with perhaps playing time incentives included)? And the same goes for Beason and Kiwi.

In other words, Vin's lawyer-friends could have news that the Giants have no intention of letting any of the three play under their current contracts, but that doesn't necessarily mean they will be cut (re-negotiations are also a possibility).
John Jerry should be resigned  
EliMcAdoo2015 : 1/25/2015 1:12 am : link
As a 6th man at worst - Schwartz insurance

2 yrs $2 million

Can play guard and RT
Thanks, Vinny!  
Anakim : 1/25/2015 1:18 am : link
Another non-shocker. Walton and Kiwanuka were awful last year. They deserve to be cut
RE: John Jerry should be resigned  
Anakim : 1/25/2015 1:19 am : link
In comment 12108214 EliMcAdoo2015 said:
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As a 6th man at worst - Schwartz insurance

2 yrs $2 million

Can play guard and RT


No
RE: John Jerry should be resigned  
WeatherMan : 1/25/2015 1:19 am : link
In comment 12108214 EliMcAdoo2015 said:
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As a 6th man at worst - Schwartz insurance

2 yrs $2 million

Can play guard and RT

I wouldn't give him one red cent. The man cannot handle a stunt to save his life.
RE: John Jerry should be resigned  
MookGiants : 1/25/2015 1:26 am : link
In comment 12108214 EliMcAdoo2015 said:
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As a 6th man at worst - Schwartz insurance

2 yrs $2 million

Can play guard and RT


Put down the bottle.

I can play guard and RT. So can you, so can anyone on this board. Doesn't mean we can play it well enough to belong on the roster.

John Jerry sucks as a starter, and he sucks as depth. If the NFL gave a one time exemption where he could play for free and only take up a roster space, no money, I still wouldnt want him.

He is versatile in the sense that he sucks everywhere he plays.
How Jerry sucked for every game except against Aaron Donald and the  
Anakim : 1/25/2015 2:44 am : link
Rams is a huge mystery.
RE: How Jerry sucked for every game except against Aaron Donald and the  
EliMcAdoo2015 : 1/25/2015 3:15 am : link
In comment 12108228 Anakim said:
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Rams is a huge mystery.



Except he didn't.

RE: RE: John Jerry should be resigned  
EliMcAdoo2015 : 1/25/2015 3:16 am : link
In comment 12108218 MookGiants said:
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In comment 12108214 EliMcAdoo2015 said:


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As a 6th man at worst - Schwartz insurance

2 yrs $2 million

Can play guard and RT



Put down the bottle.

I can play guard and RT. So can you, so can anyone on this board. Doesn't mean we can play it well enough to belong on the roster.

John Jerry sucks as a starter, and he sucks as depth. If the NFL gave a one time exemption where he could play for free and only take up a roster space, no money, I still wouldnt want him.

He is versatile in the sense that he sucks everywhere he plays.



Wrong.
Jerry was extremely stout in Pass-protection  
EliMcAdoo2015 : 1/25/2015 3:19 am : link
In every game except the 9ers game (a clear outlier as it was the worst game of his career)

He's also been a starting RG in a WCO all 48 games the last 3 seasons.

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