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Iupati vs. Franklin vs. Boling - Left Guard UFAs

EliMcAdoo2015 : 1/25/2015 2:19 am
Who would you rather have at LG?

A) Mike Iupati at $8 million per

B) Orlando Franklin at $6 million per

C) Clint Boling at $4 million per
If those are the only options and I had to choose?  
Anakim : 1/25/2015 2:42 am : link
C
D  
Milton : 1/25/2015 3:50 am : link
None of the above.
You are overstating price  
Mike in NY : 1/25/2015 6:00 am : link
Geoff Schwartz, the top OG last year, got under 5 per and each has their warts. If Boling comes at half Iupati then I take that but I see Iupati only landing a comparable deal to Schwartz
of the 3  
msh : 1/25/2015 7:02 am : link
i would take iupati because he has been the consistently better player. if they could get him in the 4-5 per range that would free up a mid range pick in the draft and give them a tested commodity over a rookie draft pick who wouldnt probably start week 1
RE: You are overstating price  
EliMcAdoo2015 : 1/25/2015 7:05 am : link
In comment 12108258 Mike in NY said:
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Geoff Schwartz, the top OG last year, got under 5 per and each has their warts. If Boling comes at half Iupati then I take that but I see Iupati only landing a comparable deal to Schwartz


And we saw in 2015 precisely why Schwartz only got that much - lack of durability. Put on IR TWICE in the same year.
2014  
EliMcAdoo2015 : 1/25/2015 7:05 am : link
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RE: 2014  
Mike in NY : 1/25/2015 7:32 am : link
In comment 12108264 EliMcAdoo2015 said:
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And Iupati is coming off injuries and is questionable as a pass blocker. That salary is living on the hype of earlier in his career
RE: RE: You are overstating price  
Stufftherun : 1/25/2015 7:43 am : link
In comment 12108263 EliMcAdoo2015 said:
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In comment 12108258 Mike in NY said:


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Geoff Schwartz, the top OG last year, got under 5 per and each has their warts. If Boling comes at half Iupati then I take that but I see Iupati only landing a comparable deal to Schwartz



And we saw in 2015 precisely why Schwartz only got that much - lack of durability. Put on IR TWICE in the same year.


Are you inferring that the terms of the Schwartz contract were based on projected injuries for the 2014 season? As far as I know he had no injury history to speak of.
Jon Asamoah got a slightly better deal than Schwartz.  
Klaatu : 1/25/2015 7:43 am : link
Still under $5 million a year, though.
Boling  
stretch234 : 1/25/2015 9:05 am : link
He is the better all around blocker. Lupati is a great run blocker and awful pass blocker. Franklin is a tremendous pass blocker and OK run blocker. Boling is good at both and he will be the cheapest
Boling  
Bones : 1/25/2015 10:10 am : link
Has had a DWI which is something I'm sure the Giants would look into. I would take Franklin. He can ply G as well as T and he plays with attitude.
None.  
Jon in NYC : 1/25/2015 10:11 am : link
Get a tackle and move Pugh to LG.
sounds like  
area junc : 1/25/2015 10:16 am : link
pugh to LG is already done. u would not hear people mentioning it in public otherwise

i think the million dollar question is can orlando franklin play RT again? he had a very good year in 2013. if so he is the closest thing to mckenzie on the market and exactly what we need

if not, derek newton sounds like a Giants-type guy. would take him over bulaga
RE: sounds like  
Mike in NY : 1/25/2015 10:17 am : link
In comment 12108370 area junc said:
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pugh to LG is already done. u would not hear people mentioning it in public otherwise

i think the million dollar question is can orlando franklin play RT again? he had a very good year in 2013. if so he is the closest thing to mckenzie on the market and exactly what we need

if not, derek newton sounds like a Giants-type guy. would take him over bulaga


Or Jeremy Parnell
i thought  
area junc : 1/25/2015 10:19 am : link
parnell looked pretty slow in pass pro. despite the press the OL rec'd romo took a beating this year
Not sure where all the love for Iupati comes from  
jcn56 : 1/25/2015 10:43 am : link
every Niners fan I've spoken to seems to think the guy struggles in pass protection, and he's had some injury and concussion issues of late.
Franklin  
TommyWiseau : 1/25/2015 11:18 am : link
He can play LG and RT
Any reason Franklin  
chris r : 1/25/2015 11:39 am : link
couldn't play RT anymore after playing it only one year back?

Is he better at RT or guard?
PFF actually had Franklin having a better year last year at RT  
Eric on Li : 1/25/2015 11:43 am : link
and that's where he played his best in college (also played a little bit of LT at Miami). Believe I remember hearing this year the Broncos moved him inside hoping to ignite more of a power running game.

Back to the original question, I think Franklin at that number would be a great pickup. Let him and Pugh both fight for RT and LG in training camp. Then you can still pickup a couple of lineman in the draft who can be groomed to eventually replace Beatty and Schwartz while providing depth in the interim since both are somewhat injury prone. Franklin would give this team tons of flexibility and he'd also bring some more 'nasty' to the line.
Whoever they go after  
Coach Mason : 1/25/2015 12:15 pm : link
They need to have a limited injury history and hopefully be 28 or younger. Continuity on the line is important and since the decline of the Diehl Snee Ohara Seubert McKenzie line which was a stalwart for years,Giants have had instability.

If there is a young buck- borderline blue chip OL in this draft that can start from day 1, I'd have no issue picking that guy at 9 to help protect Eli in his few remaining prime years.

Iupati  
Jay on the Island : 1/25/2015 12:17 pm : link
is an excellent run blocker but he struggles at times in pass pro. The Giants need to protect Eli and would be better served using that money towards another OL.
I'm leaning toward  
PEEJ : 1/25/2015 12:19 pm : link
bringing in a starter at RT and moving Puch to LG. Pugh can then be the "Swing tackle" in case of injury. Also need to add one C/G back-up.
RE: I'm leaning toward  
Jay on the Island : 1/25/2015 12:36 pm : link
In comment 12108469 PEEJ said:
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bringing in a starter at RT and moving Puch to LG. Pugh can then be the "Swing tackle" in case of injury. Also need to add one C/G back-up.


The reason I am excited about the possibility of Pugh at Guard is that he could swing out to OT if there is an injury to either the LT or RT and provide solid play which you don't usually get from a backup OT.
Peej ,Jay  
Coach Mason : 1/25/2015 12:45 pm : link
Guy not talked about as much is Barksdale. He could play the RT spot as well and may come at a lower cost than the 'brand' names.

Still prefer going OL round 1, leaning towards Peat and Collins (if BPA value is similar) and picking up a swing guy better than Jerry who can fill in if injury hits.
From the St. Louis Post-Dispatch re Barksdale:  
Klaatu : 1/25/2015 1:42 pm : link
A year after grading out as a top-eight right tackle at Pro Football Focus, Barksdale is the site's top-ranked run blocker at the position. But he's given up 24 hurries in pass protection.

The Giants did have interest in Barksdale when he was waived by the Raiders, but the Rams had the higher claim and beat them to the punch.
barksdale's another guy  
area junc : 1/26/2015 11:26 am : link
like parnell - strong run blocker but get abused in pass pro
if they're plugging in a UFA  
JonC : 1/26/2015 2:45 pm : link
better chance they'll spend on a RT, so I'd pick Frankling if they project him to RT.
Reading the tea leaves  
Coach Mason : 1/26/2015 3:16 pm : link
if they do not go for a top option in FA it very likely means they are targeting an OL with LT ability at 9.

If they do grab one of Franklin, Iupati,Boling etc. it still doesn't preclude an OL selection at 9 if the value is there.
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