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NFT: WWE: Royal Rumble

LawrenceTaylor56 : 1/25/2015 5:07 pm
One of the best PPVs IMO. In Philly, wouldn't be surprised if we see some ECW legends as surprise entrants.
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RE: RE: Anyone watch the fallout  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/26/2015 6:47 am : link
In comment 12109320 Anakim said:
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Show. Reigns and Rocks promo was terrible. Rock is trying to save the convo and it was terrible.



What happened? We know RR doesn't have the gift of gab


The rock was bullying the interviewer, and acted like the Rock, but everytime Reigns tried to speak it just ruined the whole segment. It was terrible.
I have questioned the direction  
Mark from Jersey : 1/26/2015 7:47 am : link
the WWE has been going in for some time.

I am not a Reins hater...I think he has his place in the WWE, but he is horrible on the mic and needs help. He needs a Paul Heyman. He also need to work on his wrestling. His "moves" are garbage...spear and super-man punch.

Rollins was always the best wrestler in The Shield. I hate that they turned him into a whining bitch since winning MitB. That being said he was awesome last night.

Bray Wyatt was really gaining momentum and they killed it with the Cena nonsense.

Why is Big Slow still in the WWE?

Why isn't Mizdow getting more play? The fans LOVE him and we don't get anything.

Just head scratching all around.
Didn't  
DanMetroMan : 1/26/2015 7:55 am : link
watch but sounds like they wasted Dudley.
They didn't book anyone strong in the Rumble  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/26/2015 8:06 am : link
Even Reigns and Rusev weren't booked in a way to get them over. There wasn't a cohesive story to the Rumble, and when Big Show and Kane are playing prominent roles at this stage, you are just sucking the life out of the arena.
I  
DanMetroMan : 1/26/2015 8:24 am : link
know most you didn't watch TNA but Bully/Bubba Ray was actually FANTASTIC in TNA. Wasted opportunity. Guy absolutely was good enough to be an upper mid carder or even a guy who you throw into one of the lesser PPV's in a quickie main event feud. He was that good.
RE: They didn't book anyone strong in the Rumble  
PhiPsi125 : 1/26/2015 8:50 am : link
In comment 12109483 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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Even Reigns and Rusev weren't booked in a way to get them over. There wasn't a cohesive story to the Rumble, and when Big Show and Kane are playing prominent roles at this stage, you are just sucking the life out of the arena.


I disagree...they pushed Bray and Rusev bigtime in the Rumble. Reigns did absolutely nothing in the Rumble. I still don't understand the gargantuan push Rusev has gotten since day one in wwe. I just can't get behind that guy.
RE: RE: They didn't book anyone strong in the Rumble  
nygiants16 : 1/26/2015 9:11 am : link
In comment 12109547 PhiPsi125 said:
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In comment 12109483 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:


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Even Reigns and Rusev weren't booked in a way to get them over. There wasn't a cohesive story to the Rumble, and when Big Show and Kane are playing prominent roles at this stage, you are just sucking the life out of the arena.



I disagree...they pushed Bray and Rusev bigtime in the Rumble. Reigns did absolutely nothing in the Rumble. I still don't understand the gargantuan push Rusev has gotten since day one in wwe. I just can't get behind that guy.


Well dont worry he will be buried soon, sounds like him and cena at the rumble and you know Cena is going over...

I agree about Dudley, he was a star in TNA and was carrying their main event...he is a very good worker..

I wonder if this was a one appearance type of contract
RE: I have questioned the direction  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/26/2015 9:12 am : link
In comment 12109454 Mark from Jersey said:
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the WWE has been going in for some time.

I am not a Reins hater...I think he has his place in the WWE, but he is horrible on the mic and needs help. He needs a Paul Heyman. He also need to work on his wrestling. His "moves" are garbage...spear and super-man punch.

Rollins was always the best wrestler in The Shield. I hate that they turned him into a whining bitch since winning MitB. That being said he was awesome last night.

Bray Wyatt was really gaining momentum and they killed it with the Cena nonsense.

Why is Big Slow still in the WWE?

Why isn't Mizdow getting more play? The fans LOVE him and we don't get anything.

Just head scratching all around.


When the Rock can't carry you when he is doing your speaking that's a bad sign. Watch that promo I referenced it was absolutely brutal. Rock was on a roll and then Reigns just sucked the life out of it everytime he started to speak. Hopefully Reigns will have more moves to use in Mania.
Didn't watch it  
illmatic : 1/26/2015 9:21 am : link
but I heard about what happened. The WWE just does not give a shit what the fans want to see. They showed that last year at the rumble and this year as well. When everybody expects Reigns to win it months in advance and then it happens... it's just boring as hell. And then on top of that, there was no good talent in the rumble. Nobody to even make you think "hey, maybe this guy will actually win it." I think the only other wrestler in it who even might've had a chance to make you think that was Bryan. And from what I read, he was eliminated fairly early on. And then the final three sounds like a joke, even further adding to the fact that it's painfully obvious who wins.

But I do feel somewhat bad for Reigns getting booed. I can see why they want to push him but it's dumb to do it right now. You have awesome guys like Rollins and Ambrose who are in a similar tier to Reigns - why not push them instead? Because they don't have the almighty "look"? It's just dumb. But I think most people booing him were basically booing WWE in general and their decision to do this.
RE: I  
GMAN4LIFE : 1/26/2015 9:23 am : link
In comment 12109518 DanMetroMan said:
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know most you didn't watch TNA but Bully/Bubba Ray was actually FANTASTIC in TNA. Wasted opportunity. Guy absolutely was good enough to be an upper mid carder or even a guy who you throw into one of the lesser PPV's in a quickie main event feud. He was that good.


that says alot about the others on the TNA roster.
RE: RE: I  
DanMetroMan : 1/26/2015 9:28 am : link
In comment 12109584 GMAN4LIFE said:
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In comment 12109518 DanMetroMan said:


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know most you didn't watch TNA but Bully/Bubba Ray was actually FANTASTIC in TNA. Wasted opportunity. Guy absolutely was good enough to be an upper mid carder or even a guy who you throw into one of the lesser PPV's in a quickie main event feud. He was that good.



that says alot about the others on the TNA roster.


No. The guy did EXCELLENT work in TNA regardless of the surrounding talent. Great on the mic, excellent matches. The guy lost weight, improved you would be surprised how good he is.
Too  
BIG FRED 1973 : 1/26/2015 9:47 am : link
bad Bubba Ray was a one and done for WWE ,He is booked with Devon for a House of Hardcore show in March .I always said he is one of greatest heels in the business .
RE: Too  
DanMetroMan : 1/26/2015 9:52 am : link
In comment 12109625 BIG FRED 1973 said:
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bad Bubba Ray was a one and done for WWE ,He is booked with Devon for a House of Hardcore show in March .I always said he is one of greatest heels in the business .


I'm honestly done watching and have for about a year now but that's disappointing. I really think his progression from ring boy to what he became in TNA was nothing short of amazing. Imagine Rowan one day becoming a capable main event worker/putting on plus matches, that would be something similar.
I think i am the opposite of a lot of people  
nygiants16 : 1/26/2015 9:55 am : link
but i am so sick of Daniel Bryan and the crowd completel shitting on anything he is not involved in...

If it is not Ziggler (who i think is extremely overrated) or Bryan then the crowd shits on it and to me it is getting kind of annoying now...

ziggler overrated? wow  
KWhite2250 : 1/26/2015 10:20 am : link
so what do you like considering ziggler, bryan and rollins are the best in the wwe?
RE: ziggler overrated? wow  
nygiants16 : 1/26/2015 10:32 am : link
In comment 12109674 KWhite2250 said:
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so what do you like considering ziggler, bryan and rollins are the best in the wwe?


Love Rollins...think he is going to be amazing for years to come..he knows how to have a match and tell a story...

Ziggler to me is nothing more than a spot monkey...yeah he hits some big moves and he takes big bumps but he never tells the story, he has the moves down but he is not good at ring psychology...

When wrestling was at its best the 2 guys in the ring knew how to tell a story and get the crowd invested...

Having matches with big spots are nice as a change of pace but in my opinion shouldnt be main event type matches..

To me i hate the matches where each guy keeps kicking out of the others finisher..its stupid to me and in the grand scheme it is killing the validity of the guys strongest move...

In the 90's early 2000's you would rarely see someone kick out of another person's finisher and when it did happen it made it more shocking and better, now you see it in every single match...

The guys i actually like watching wrestle Ambrose, Rollins, Orton, HHH, Wyatt, and that is really it..

Those guys when they get into a ring no how to tell a story and get you invested into a match...
RE: RE: Too  
GMAN4LIFE : 1/26/2015 10:32 am : link
In comment 12109636 DanMetroMan said:
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bad Bubba Ray was a one and done for WWE ,He is booked with Devon for a House of Hardcore show in March .I always said he is one of greatest heels in the business .



I'm honestly done watching and have for about a year now but that's disappointing. I really think his progression from ring boy to what he became in TNA was nothing short of amazing. Imagine Rowan one day becoming a capable main event worker/putting on plus matches, that would be something similar.


i agree with you... bubba was great but the rest of wasnt that great. Though i blame that on just the booking.
RE: ziggler overrated? wow  
nygiants16 : 1/26/2015 10:33 am : link
In comment 12109674 KWhite2250 said:
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so what do you like considering ziggler, bryan and rollins are the best in the wwe?


To me Scott Hall was one of the best workers in wrestling in his prime..the guy simply knew how to tell a story and sell the shit out of a match...
well we agree  
KWhite2250 : 1/26/2015 10:49 am : link
on the wrestlers other than ziggler and bryan.

i hate that time gets wasted on useless guys like big show or bella twins. i'd rather just see the real good wrestlers get more time to let matches play out better.
RE: well we agree  
nygiants16 : 1/26/2015 11:16 am : link
In comment 12109712 KWhite2250 said:
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on the wrestlers other than ziggler and bryan.

i hate that time gets wasted on useless guys like big show or bella twins. i'd rather just see the real good wrestlers get more time to let matches play out better.


I know i am in the minority when it comes to Ziggler and Bryan...
I think one of the problems  
dep026 : 1/26/2015 11:24 am : link
is that the characters they are making become stale too soon.

Bray is awesome, but this whole crazy shit wears thin.
Ambrose is probably the best wrestler, but his "heath ledger, joker" act also becomes boring.
Reigns machoism and not being able to talk is just awful.

Ziggler is awesome, but can he carry the title for a long time? Barrett always look good for 2 weeks than becomes a complete bore. They have no clue what to do with Cesaro. Bryan is clearly still injured.

I would love to see Rollins, Ambrose, Cesaro, and Sandow get huge pushes. You can easily have 2 faces and 2 heels and high quality wrestling. Even throw Bray in there as well.

Heyman needs a guy. I thought it would be Rollins, but its a perfect time to send Reigns as a heel and let Heyman do for him what he does for Brock.

And one final note, my god is Lesnar a monster.
I actually agree that Ziggler is overrated  
moespree : 1/26/2015 11:47 am : link
He's a great seller, maybe the best they have. But he's not great on the mic, his moveset is not the greatest, and I do think because of his amazing selling ability many of his matches give off the appearance of being better than they actually are. It do think an upper card is his peak, never a main eventer.

As for Bryan, I also kind of get what the other poster is saying. We can't having booing, and non stop chanting everytime Bryan isn't in the main event. That being said the Rumble was booked poorly. It's obvious the people who booked it thought dump Bryan early and by the end people will get over it. Which is insulting to the audience to be honest, that they thought they'd be stupid enough to forget in like 35 minutes.
The problem with Reigns  
nygiants16 : 1/26/2015 11:53 am : link
is they are booking him like Cena...Shoved down your throat and is starting to cater to the young kids...

They should build him like Lesnar and build him as an ass kicker, he comes into the ring and clears it...Doesnt need to talk just destroys people...


RE: The problem with Reigns  
dpinzow : 1/26/2015 11:54 am : link
In comment 12109813 nygiants16 said:
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is they are booking him like Cena...Shoved down your throat and is starting to cater to the young kids...

They should build him like Lesnar and build him as an ass kicker, he comes into the ring and clears it...Doesnt need to talk just destroys people...



Agreed...Roman should be a heel and Rollins should be a face
RE: RE: The problem with Reigns  
nygiants16 : 1/26/2015 11:56 am : link
In comment 12109817 dpinzow said:
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is they are booking him like Cena...Shoved down your throat and is starting to cater to the young kids...

They should build him like Lesnar and build him as an ass kicker, he comes into the ring and clears it...Doesnt need to talk just destroys people...





Agreed...Roman should be a heel and Rollins should be a face


Not what i am saying at all..Rollins is great in his role there is no need to change him to a face...I think turning Rollins face would kill him...as it is right now he is on his way to main event status...

Reigns doesnt necessarily need to be a heel but they need to stop booking him like Cena...
Just one mans thought  
The 12th Man : 1/26/2015 12:03 pm : link
Daniel Bryan comes back enters the Rumble to fire things up. He knows and WWE he is probably not ready for full time action. They put him in the Rumble to fire everybody up. Now he goes about the business of getting himself into a triple threat match for the Championship at Mania.
My thoughts are they brought him in to see how he wod hold up in his 1st match back. Think they want to make sure he can handle the load before giving him the title.
Hey wait  
BIG FRED 1973 : 1/26/2015 12:20 pm : link
Curtis Axl was never thrown over the top rope so he should be the longest guy ever in the rumble lol
Raw  
DanMetroMan : 1/26/2015 1:01 pm : link
has been canceled.
I would  
BIG FRED 1973 : 1/26/2015 1:47 pm : link
imagine smackdown is cancelled to as that's in Boston tomorrow night
WWE  
DanMetroMan : 1/26/2015 1:48 pm : link
should run an old PPV for free or something tonight.
The only solution is HLA  
Anakim : 1/26/2015 2:21 pm : link
.
Raw  
DanMetroMan : 1/26/2015 2:41 pm : link
moved to Thursday
The problem with Reigns  
BigBlueCane : 1/26/2015 3:16 pm : link
is that his stable mates are simply better then he is.

At practically everything. The only advantage he has is he's perceived as being 'better looking'.

And that's all that Vince really wants, a big handsome, jacked up guy as the face of the company.

Unfortunately for Vince, his booking is still in the 80's where you can have two big scary guys in Big Show/Kane killing everyone but the crowd and fans have moved far past him now.
There was a point last night  
Wuphat : 1/26/2015 3:23 pm : link
where Rusov was just about the smallest person in the ring except for Cesaro.

It's the same "bigger is better" bullshit that almost ruined the WWF in the early 90s. The only difference now is that there is no WCW to challenge them and force them to change.
Reigns  
Mr. Nickels : 1/26/2015 3:30 pm : link
moveset is fucking stupid too. How many others have used the spear? The Superman punch is dumb. Surprised they dont give him his own People's elbow/five knuckle shuffle move.

He needs to have a devastating finisher like a powerbomb or suplex. Stop coming from the crowd
Kaitlyn  
BigBlueCane : 1/26/2015 3:34 pm : link
had a better spear then Reigns does. And it looked more impressive given her size and those of the other divas.

People are deserting in droves, Raw has been cancelled for tonight and Smackdown will be live on Thursday.

I think these next two weeks are gonna be hilarious.
Are they going to backtrack  
Mr. Nickels : 1/26/2015 4:16 pm : link
like last year? Insert Bryan in the triple threat AGAIN?

They might as well but it's the same old shit.

I'd have the main event just be mayhem:

Lesnar vs Reigns vs Bryan (never lost the title)

Rollins faces Orton in the opener and steals the show and basically he pulls a Daniel Bryan

He comes out to cash in Money in the bank and its the 4 of them until Ambrose comes out to try and stop him and you either end Mania with Rollins as champ or Reigns still getting the win.
Meltzer says no  
moespree : 1/26/2015 4:20 pm : link
He reported today no triple threat. Vince is adamant not to do the same thing as last year. Main event will Lesnar vs Reigns.
Also for what it's worth  
moespree : 1/26/2015 4:21 pm : link
The schedule opens up a bit into more friendly territory for WWE and casuals who like Reigns in the weeks to come. It's not a Batista situation like last year, where casuals didn't even know who he was. Casuals know Reigns and do like him. This cancellation might just wind up a blessing in disguise for Vince and let it all die down. I think there is a good shot of that actually.
They still  
Mr. Nickels : 1/26/2015 4:36 pm : link
need to have Rollins cash in.
RE: Are they going to backtrack  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/26/2015 5:09 pm : link
In comment 12110240 Mr. Nickels said:
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like last year? Insert Bryan in the triple threat AGAIN?

They might as well but it's the same old shit.

I'd have the main event just be mayhem:

Lesnar vs Reigns vs Bryan (never lost the title)

Rollins faces Orton in the opener and steals the show and basically he pulls a Daniel Bryan

He comes out to cash in Money in the bank and its the 4 of them until Ambrose comes out to try and stop him and you either end Mania with Rollins as champ or Reigns still getting the win.


Last year wasn't a backtrack. That was the plan from the beginning. Not letting Bryant do the Rumble last year and have him bitch in Twitter was all planned. Having him compete in 2 matches to win was planned and it was the best Mania in years.

There is no real way to fix this this year. If Rollins comes in and steels the belt from Reigns it will put Rollins over. Won't work unless Reigns goes full heel and how does the title match turn into a heel vs. a heel I don't know!
RE: RE: Are they going to backtrack  
Mr. Nickels : 1/26/2015 5:11 pm : link
In comment 12110288 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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In comment 12110240 Mr. Nickels said:


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like last year? Insert Bryan in the triple threat AGAIN?

They might as well but it's the same old shit.

I'd have the main event just be mayhem:

Lesnar vs Reigns vs Bryan (never lost the title)

Rollins faces Orton in the opener and steals the show and basically he pulls a Daniel Bryan

He comes out to cash in Money in the bank and its the 4 of them until Ambrose comes out to try and stop him and you either end Mania with Rollins as champ or Reigns still getting the win.



Last year wasn't a backtrack. That was the plan from the beginning. Not letting Bryant do the Rumble last year and have him bitch in Twitter was all planned. Having him compete in 2 matches to win was planned and it was the best Mania in years.

There is no real way to fix this this year. If Rollins comes in and steels the belt from Reigns it will put Rollins over. Won't work unless Reigns goes full heel and how does the title match turn into a heel vs. a heel I don't know!


Lesnar turns face
The plan last year was for Bryan to face Sheamus.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/26/2015 5:12 pm : link
The fan reaction got that all changed. However, looks like it'll be Bryan/Sheamus this year, lel.
RE: The plan last year was for Bryan to face Sheamus.  
Mr. Nickels : 1/26/2015 5:31 pm : link
In comment 12110293 Dave in Hoboken said:
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The fan reaction got that all changed. However, looks like it'll be Bryan/Sheamus this year, lel.


So stupid. Bryan NEVER LOST THE TITLE. He has a rematch clause and should exercise it.

Bryan needs a big Mania match for as long as he is the top face and Sheamus is a bum.
The casuals  
BigBlueCane : 1/26/2015 5:36 pm : link
will not save WWE this year. If the hardcores abandon ship, once Mania is over, there is no floor to how low WWE might sink in ratings and network sub #'s.
ive left  
Mr. Nickels : 1/26/2015 5:39 pm : link
in the past (96 with Michaels for a bit after the Montreal screw job) Most of the late 2000s with Cena

But I am pretty much life long and I love the Network. I will stick through it but it is frustrating that they can't get it right
RE: RE: Are they going to backtrack  
Default : 1/26/2015 6:43 pm : link
In comment 12110288 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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In comment 12110240 Mr. Nickels said:


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like last year? Insert Bryan in the triple threat AGAIN?

They might as well but it's the same old shit.

I'd have the main event just be mayhem:

Lesnar vs Reigns vs Bryan (never lost the title)

Rollins faces Orton in the opener and steals the show and basically he pulls a Daniel Bryan

He comes out to cash in Money in the bank and its the 4 of them until Ambrose comes out to try and stop him and you either end Mania with Rollins as champ or Reigns still getting the win.



Last year wasn't a backtrack. That was the plan from the beginning. Not letting Bryant do the Rumble last year and have him bitch in Twitter was all planned. Having him compete in 2 matches to win was planned and it was the best Mania in years.


You're out of your damn mind, it was no way planned all along.
Right now they are replaying the title match on Raw  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/26/2015 8:26 pm : link
And it is awesome. They are taking a break after Rollins hits the flying elbow through the table.
And that Roman Reigns  
BigBlueCane : 1/27/2015 4:40 am : link
interview confirms, they are turning him into Cena ver2.0.

Car crash commences.
I have been a fan of "rasslin'" since the NWA territory days  
JerryNYG : 1/27/2015 6:32 pm : link
I have drifted in and out of watching over the years and I can honestly say at this point I have no desire to watch the main WWE product. It is boring, predictable, and total bullshit. What is crazy is that they have some insanely talented guys on that roster but the creative team churns out tired garbage week in and week out.

I do watch NXT from time to time and I also enjoy Lucha Underground, Chikara, PWG and New Japan Pro Wrestling. If you need a wrestling fix check one of those promotions out.
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