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NFT: Greek election results cast doubts on future in Eurozone

Dunedin81 : 1/25/2015 9:36 pm
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ATHENS, Greece (AP) — A radical left-wing party vowing to end Greece's painful austerity program won a historic victory in Sunday's parliamentary elections, setting up a showdown with the country's international creditors that could shake the eurozone.

Alexis Tsipras, leader of the communist-rooted Syriza party, immediately promised to end the "five years of humiliation and pain" that Greece has endured since an international bailout saved it from bankruptcy in 2010.


The party moderated its rhetoric to some extent prior to the election so there is some hope that they'd be more centrist than their reputation, and at present they have a plurality (though the final vote count could give them an outright majority). But this is arguably the biggest threat to the Eurozone as presently constituted in the last couple years. Greece could leverage a better deal out of the "troika" that handles its international finances or one or both parties may provoke a crisis. Interesting times.
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Have you been following Venezuela's sovereign debt pricing  
RB^2 : 1/26/2015 12:44 pm : link
the past few months? Not exactly new news.
Nope.  
manh george : 1/26/2015 12:51 pm : link
Guess not. It was inevitable with the oil price collapse. It just came to a head as we were having this conversation.
RE: idiotsavant  
njm : 1/26/2015 1:00 pm : link
In comment 12109847 manh george said:
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Brazil had the luxury of NOT being able to rely on oil revenues, plus a vibrant populace that was/is willing to earn their keep. When Lula was elected, yes, he abandoned hard left strategies in a hurry, because he saw that he could, and that the alternatives could work.

Venezuaela could have fared a lot better, I think, had they not had in power a skilled demagogue such as Chavez to help keep alive the illusion that living off of oil revenues was OK.


As much as the illusion of living off of oil revenues, the further illusion that your national oil company can provide for the nation when it is being run by a bunch of political henchmen.
and in light of some recent deals (e.g. Bennett)  
giants#1 : 1/26/2015 1:09 pm : link
this was actually a pretty shrewd "prove it" deal by Reese and co. It didn't work out, but if Walton looked good (or even average), they would've had him on a very good deal for this season and it was structured such that if it didn't work out, they could cut him immediately and move on (with a minor $625k dead money hit).
oops  
giants#1 : 1/26/2015 1:10 pm : link
wrong thread
I guess he was not 'productive'  
idiotsavant : 1/26/2015 1:14 pm : link
hehehe
RE: Hot off the presses: Venezuela as Latin America's Greece.  
Rob in CT/NYC : 1/26/2015 1:16 pm : link
In comment 12109896 manh george said:
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Falling oil prices and incompetent governance mean Venezuela might default on its debts, leaving major trading partners like Brazil holding the bag.

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I thought Greece was Europe's Venezuela?
Can you get good Venezuelan food in Greece?  
manh george : 1/26/2015 1:17 pm : link
I rest my case.
No, but you can probably find plenty of Venezuelans in Greek  
jcn56 : 1/26/2015 1:26 pm : link
owned diners, so the circle is complete.
yeah, I forgot the other major Greek export.  
manh george : 1/26/2015 1:30 pm : link
Diners and coffee shops.
Also  
RB^2 : 1/26/2015 1:40 pm : link
cheesy wedding movies and ruthless Baltimore mobsters.
mg  
BobOnLI : 1/26/2015 1:54 pm : link
Also, frats and sororities.
RE: yeah, I forgot the other major Greek export.  
njm : 1/26/2015 2:02 pm : link
In comment 12109995 manh george said:
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Diners and coffee shops.


No Coke! Pepsi.
Moral of the story:  
manh george : 1/26/2015 2:08 pm : link
If you want to experience Greek life nowadays, emigrate, enroll in a fraternity at Johns Hopkins, go to the local diner, and say high to the large muscular guy sitting at the back table.
funny  
giantfan2000 : 1/26/2015 2:17 pm : link
everyone screams about the social safety net of greece
but noone mentions that their military spending has been out of control for years

although Greece military spending was cut after the 2009 meltdown it was cut much less than social services

As a percentage of GDP Greek military spending is still double that of any other country in the EU



And whose fault is this?  
manh george : 1/26/2015 2:25 pm : link
It's just another form of cronyism.


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Other analysts agree that the Greek armed forces can always resist big defense cuts by playing the Turkey card. “The generals will always have an excuse to keep the budget high,” Mr. Kritikos said.

Indeed, over the past several months, the Greek media have written that Turkey violated Greek airspace at least once...

There is another political reason for exempting the army from cuts. Closing some of the 500 military bases and 17 training centers would mean sending tens of thousands of young soldiers into the ranks of the unemployed, adding a dangerous component to social unrest, according to Sipri, a Swedish research institute. Perhaps, analysts said, the Greek armed forces will have to wait for any major restructuring until the country’s economy picks up.


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