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LAXin : 1/26/2015 11:25 am
On another football forum that I frequently visit, Patriots fans are out to dispute exactly what rules their team and coach violated 7 years ago.

They claimed that the rules did not prohibit video-taping your opponent's sideline activities, even the hand signals. Rather, it stipulated that such taping could only happen from off-the-field locations (such as from a roof top), whereas the Patriots did it from their own sidelines.

So the fans cried that had they just retreated another 10-15 yards, and performed the video-taping from the stands, this would have been perfectly legal.

I just checked wikipedia, and it doesn't seem to dispute this claim, but I had always thought teams were not allowed to videotaped, from anywhere, the other side's hand signals.
I seemed to remember it's a more direct violation than just distance and location.

(Let's not get into taping the opponents' pre-game walk through for now, as that allegation had been retracted shortly after it first appeared. Let's stick to what the Patriots already admitted doing).

The Patriots fans even put up this picture below, claiming this was on the Jets sideline when they were playing at the Patriots AFTER spygate had happened. If this picture was indeed true, how could what the Patriots did be illegal?

I know wikipedia can be edited easily, so can anyone refresh my memory, and maybe provide some trustworthy links about the nature of spygate? Thanks.

Google it - tons of stuff this from wikipedia  
pjcas18 : 1/26/2015 11:29 am : link
On September 10, 2007, Belichick was accused by the Jets of authorizing his staff to film the Jets' defensive signals from an on-field location, a violation of league rules.

Quote:
In a September 2006 memorandum sent out by NFL Vice President of Football Operations Ray Anderson, though, all teams were told that "videotaping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game


And Bellichick's claim...  
BillKo : 1/26/2015 11:37 am : link
that "everyone" was doing it was probably somewhat true.....teams look for an advantage.

The issue is, teams were told to stop, and the Pat's didn't. They kept on doing it.

That's why they were penalized.

And why is snide remark at Saturday's press conference is just an example of why I wouldn't believe him now.
teams shoot game play.........  
BillKo : 1/26/2015 11:40 am : link
for using on team produced pregame shows, post game shows, etc........that's what that guy in the photo is probably doing.

I mean, we see video of Giants games everywhere from ground level, and I'm not talking NFL Films footage.
You'll notice that it is in between the first and second qtr  
Peter in Atl : 1/26/2015 11:49 am : link
in that picture. What's to say he's not shooting the cheerleaders on the field?
I believe the issue was the Patriots were told to stop doing it and  
Blue21 : 1/26/2015 11:58 am : link
they did it again after the warning. Hence the punishment. I can't speak to the picture being shown on this thread as to what that's all about.
Hmmmm  
Mark C : 1/26/2015 1:45 pm : link
"(Let's not get into taping the opponents' pre-game walk through for now, as that allegation had been retracted shortly after it first appeared. Let's stick to what the Patriots already admitted doing)."

Really? What about the fact that that allegation was retracted after the evidence was destroyed? What about the Rams players who reported that the Pats seemed to know exactly what play they were running the whole game during the Super Bowl?
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