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Deflate-gate closer to an answer?

sphinx : 1/26/2015 3:30 pm
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JayGlazer
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Breaking news: sources tell @FOXSports the NFL has zeroed in on a locker room attendant w Patriots who allegedly took balls from officials locker room to another area on way to field. Sources say they have interviewed him and additionally have video. Still gauging if any wrong doing occurred with him but he is strong person of interest
2015-01-26


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Im not saying this is proof  
Kevin999 : 1/27/2015 11:45 am : link
but if you have done it before, it probably only takes a few seconds to stick the needle in and deflate a ball. Also, if you've done it before, you probably know exactly how long it takes to deflate on from 12.5 to 11.5 etc.
I definitely think the deflated balls  
chuckydee9 : 1/27/2015 11:51 am : link
has an impact during bad weather days. The more you can squeeze, even a mm, the chance of fumbling decreases dramatically. But it had no impact on the result of that game. On the other hand all those seahawks players who use Aderall have a much bigger impact on the game.. Its a class 2 drug and should not be taken lightly.. It also has a huge impact on mental performance. I know medical students who have taken it and it exponentially increases their ability to learn and be cognizant of things going on around them. I know from the same and other medical students that there is no need for Richard Sherman to take them...
deflation  
ArtVandelay : 1/27/2015 12:01 pm : link
I'm not sure you would have enough time to measure exactly how much you're taking out. Maybe if you just stick a pin in for a few seconds to release some air but what if you take out too much.
It seems too risky to me. After the inspection is when officials are supposed to be paying attention to these things
RE: Im not saying this is proof  
sphinx : 1/27/2015 12:23 pm : link
In comment 12111161 Kevin999 said:
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but if you have done it before, it probably only takes a few seconds to stick the needle in and deflate a ball. Also, if you've done it before, you probably know exactly how long it takes to deflate on from 12.5 to 11.5 etc.

And how did you know the balls were all at 12.5 PSI and not 13.0 or 13.5 or anything between 12.5 and 13.5?

I wonder what kind of air gauge they use.  
nicky43 : 1/27/2015 1:41 pm : link
I've bought every type of air gauge under the sun to check the air in my tires including the new expensive digital units and I have STILL NOT found an air gauge that if taking the reading five times in a row will give me the same reading. I've found that the more you spend on an air gauge the less accurate it seems to be.

Also, have you noticed that the process of measuring the air pressure in your tire always results in a little air leaking out?

I wonder if these types of issues are preventing the NFL from taking a hard stand on the evidence they have.
RE: RE: Im not saying this is proof  
giants#1 : 1/27/2015 1:46 pm : link
In comment 12111249 sphinx said:
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In comment 12111161 Kevin999 said:


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but if you have done it before, it probably only takes a few seconds to stick the needle in and deflate a ball. Also, if you've done it before, you probably know exactly how long it takes to deflate on from 12.5 to 11.5 etc.


And how did you know the balls were all at 12.5 PSI and not 13.0 or 13.5 or anything between 12.5 and 13.5?


That's the easy part because supposedly the Pats equipment manager would inflate them all to 12.5 PSI, the lowest allowed level. Prior to giving the balls to the refs for inspection, he can take as long as he pleases.

The more interesting question to me is, were all the deflated balls at the same pressure? It seems unlikely that a guy stepping into a bathroom for 90 seconds would be able to accurately deflate 11 balls to even a small range (e.g. 10.5-10.7 PSI). To get all the balls within a tight range like that, IMO, would require actually using a gauge to test them, not simply sticking a needle in and quickly letting some air out.

Best way to find out is to have someone simulate it  
montanagiant : 1/27/2015 2:38 pm : link
lol..That would be hilarious to watch
RE: Best way to find out is to have someone simulate it  
giants#1 : 1/27/2015 2:40 pm : link
In comment 12111523 montanagiant said:
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lol..That would be hilarious to watch


I'm sure ESPN already has people in bathrooms trying to deflate 11 balls in 90 seconds...

They need to get a bunch of equipment managers though and see if they could do it and see how tight a PSI range they could get the balls in. Probably a better chance that someone used to handling balls could do it, than any random dude.
RE: RE: RE: Im not saying this is proof  
sphinx : 1/27/2015 4:05 pm : link
In comment 12111410 giants#1 said:
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In comment 12111249 sphinx said: Quote:
And how did you know the balls were all at 12.5 PSI and not 13.0 or 13.5 or anything between 12.5 and 13.5?


That's the easy part because supposedly the Pats equipment manager would inflate them all to 12.5 PSI, the lowest allowed level.


But how does he know the officials didn't pump up the balls a bit to get them above the lowest allowable PSI just to make sure ... with the pump they had been supplied by leagues rule? lol.

Daily News had someone deflated 12 balls in about 40 seconds  
LAXin : 1/28/2015 12:51 pm : link
and actually doing it next to a toilet inside a restroom

It seems his ball #7 and ball #12 were the same one, and the ball that's under his left wrist while doing ball #4 was neglected.


video of deflating 12 balls in 40 seconds - ( New Window )
Hernandez is like  
feelflows : 1/28/2015 12:52 pm : link
Francis from Stripes...

"If you tackle me... I kill ya... if you LOOK at me...I kill ya..if you so much as line UP against me...........I KILL YA"
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