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50 points in a game more than once in a season.

truebluelarry : 1/27/2015 12:07 pm
So I'm home from work thanks to the blizzard, and catching up on research for future articles. As always, I find something that piques my interest and impulsively go on tangents.

The 1924 Cleveland Bulldogs were the first team to reach the 50-point plateau twice, with a 59-0 win over the Rochester Jeffersons and a 53-10 win over the Milwaukee Badgers.

One sided blowouts became more scarce as the NFL stabilized as the weaker teams were weeded out. Through this contraction more good players were on the rosters of fewer teams and competition leveled. Between the years 1928 - 1933, 50 points in a game was only achieved twice, and both were by the Giants. A 53-0 win over the Frankford Yellow Jackets in 1930 and a 56-0 win over the Philadelphia Eagles in 1933.

The significance here is that the Giants did not score 50 points in a game until 1950 - where they did it three times in one season. Not only that, they did it three times in four weeks! They won 51-21 over the Chicago Cardinals on Nov 12, 55-20 at the Baltimore Colts Nov 19 (New York actually trailed 20-0 in the second quarter), after a 7-3 win over Philadelphia Nov 26 they whipped the New York Yanks 51-7 Dec 3 - a remarkable stretch for any team, and especially for one that had been known primarily for its strong defense (this was the year of The Umbrella).

50 points three times in a season has only been accomplished three times in history. Aside from the 1950 Giants:

1950 Los Angeles Rams (the highest scoring team per game in NFL history) with wins of 70-27 over Baltimore, 65-24 over Detroit (which included a record 41-point third quarter), and 51-14 over Green Bay.

1966 Dallas Cowboys with wins of 52-7 over the Giants, 56-7 over Philadelphia and 52-21 over Pittsburgh.

1969 Minnesota Vikings with wins of 52-14 over Baltimore, 51-3 over Cleveland, and 52-14 over Pittsburgh.

2013 Denver Broncos with wins of 52-20 over Philadelphia, 51-48 over Dallas (99 combined points is 4th highest in history),and 51-28 over Tennessee.


Not for nuttin',  
Big Blue '56 : 1/27/2015 12:12 pm : link
But I remember Norm Snead as the Skins rookie Qb(Before the Jurgenson trade) losing to us 53-0 at the Stadium that included two safeties..

I think it was 1961(?)...

That's what triggered the minute you started the 50 point thread..:)
Ugh, that should read  
truebluelarry : 1/27/2015 12:15 pm : link
"50 points in a game has only been achieved FIVE times in history"

I need Eric to edit my posts for me!
RE: Not for nuttin',  
truebluelarry : 1/27/2015 12:18 pm : link
In comment 12111213 Big Blue '56 said:
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But I remember Norm Snead as the Skins rookie Qb(Before the Jurgenson trade) losing to us 53-0 at the Stadium that included two safeties..

I think it was 1961(?)...

That's what triggered the minute you started the 50 point thread..:)


Good recall.

My first 50-point game was the 1986 season finale vs Green Bay (I was home from college and in my seats in Sec.102)
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The Flynn blocked TD punt game?  
Big Blue '56 : 1/27/2015 12:22 pm : link
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69 Vikings was impressive  
HomerJones45 : 1/27/2015 12:23 pm : link
Baltimore was the defending NFL champion and Cleveland was a perennial power. I think the Cleveland game was the NFC championship game.
RE: 69 Vikings was impressive  
Big Blue '56 : 1/27/2015 12:26 pm : link
In comment 12111247 HomerJones45 said:
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Baltimore was the defending NFL champion and Cleveland was a perennial power. I think the Cleveland game was the NFC championship game.


I was an NFL guy all the way..How easily the Chiefs toyed with the Vikes was extremely disconcerting..Actually depressing..:)
RE: 69 Vikings was impressive  
truebluelarry : 1/27/2015 12:27 pm : link
In comment 12111247 HomerJones45 said:
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Baltimore was the defending NFL champion and Cleveland was a perennial power. I think the Cleveland game was the NFC championship game.

You're right, the Vikings were demolishing quality opposition that year, but the won the NFL Championship 27-7 over the Browns. I think the 1969 Vikings are one of the best teams not to win a championship (with the 1934 and 1942 Bears.)

The NFL Film Missing Rings episode on them is great, one of the best they've ever put together.
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RE: The Flynn blocked TD punt game?  
truebluelarry : 1/27/2015 12:27 pm : link
In comment 12111245 Big Blue '56 said:
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Yep, Flynn scored that TD running away from my endzone!
When you have Page, Sutherland, Eller and Deacon  
Big Blue '56 : 1/27/2015 12:28 pm : link
you should never lose a game..:)
RE: When you have Page, Sutherland, Eller and Deacon  
truebluelarry : 1/27/2015 12:36 pm : link
In comment 12111259 Big Blue '56 said:
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you should never lose a game..:)

They lost on opening day at Yankee Stadium (Alex Webster's first game as head coach) with Gary Cuozzo at QB. Bud Grant made the switch to Joe Kapp and they proceeded to run roughshod through the league winning 12 straight. They rested players the final week and lost to a terrible Falcons team in Atlanta. In the divisional playoff they won a classic over the 11-3 Deacon Jones Rams.
RE: When you have Page, Sutherland, Eller and Deacon  
Victor in CT : 1/27/2015 12:36 pm : link
In comment 12111259 Big Blue '56 said:
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you should never lose a game..:)


I think you mean Jim Marshall, not Deacon Jones?
((Head bowed))  
Big Blue '56 : 1/27/2015 12:37 pm : link
Of Course..Sheesh
RE: ((Head bowed))  
Victor in CT : 1/27/2015 12:40 pm : link
In comment 12111272 Big Blue '56 said:
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Of Course..Sheesh


I do the same thing sometimes BB56. Last week I had Strahan playing in the 2011 Super Bowl. :-)
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Big Blue '56 : 1/27/2015 12:44 pm : link
In comment 12111277 Victor in CT said:
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In comment 12111272 Big Blue '56 said:


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Of Course..Sheesh



I do the same thing sometimes BB56. Last week I had Strahan playing in the 2011 Super Bowl. :-)


:)
The 1950 Colts and the Yanks had two of the worst defenses  
Defenderdawg : 1/27/2015 1:27 pm : link
In NFL history...The Colts lasted one season and should not have been admitted into the league from the AAFC but they were as a favor to an NFL owner, also the formal adoption of the free substitution rule may have caught some teams short handed as the game moved away from single platoon football...still the Cards game was credible, they allowed 3 points to the Giants in their other meeting (17-3 Cards won) and played good defense both the week before and after the Giants game...Gene Roberts had 218 yards rushing in the 50 point game against the Cards, if he had not threatened to be a rancher in Brazil or was not enticed by the CFL he might have stayed a few more seasons and become one of the greats...
That 1966 Giants' team was the worst Defense I've ever personally  
Big Blue '56 : 1/27/2015 1:31 pm : link
seen..Can you imagine scoring 41 points and LOSING by 31?
The Cleveland game in 1966 was bad too  
Defenderdawg : 1/27/2015 1:39 pm : link
Up by 20 in the second half and 12 with nine minutes left the week after the Washington game and they still lost 49-40
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We kept losing QBs iirc..  
Big Blue '56 : 1/27/2015 1:41 pm : link
I think that's the year Tom Kennedy was signed from the Continental Football league and Lost in his debut to the Rams(55-14?)
You are right  
Defenderdawg : 1/27/2015 1:56 pm : link
From 1965 the Giants waived their starting DT's Bundra and Lalonde, lost Moran DT due to injury, lost R. Anderson DT to expansion, traded Stynchula their RDE, waived Underwood OLB, traded Carroll OLB, lost Swain OLB to a preseason knee injury, waived W. Williams CB...they acquired Prestel and Vargo from Minnesota, Garcia from Cleveland, D. Davis D2 (moved from LT after game one, W. Young started at DT vs Pitt and moved to LT), signed Sczurek after ATL waived him, acquired W. Harris SS and moved Carr from SS to FS, Patton and Lynch became support players in their last season, the Giants drafted White, Cicccolella, J. Smith, P. Harris, Matan...they also tried Maury Youmans the former Bear at RDE but he retired in pre season due to knee issues...

1966 Giants D

LE Katcavage, Matan
LT Prestel
RT Condren, D. Davis
RE Garcia, R. Davis
LO Hillebrand, F. White
MB Ciccolella, J. Smith
RO Vargo, Sczurek
LC Lockhart
SS W. Harris, P. Harris
FS Carr, Patton
RC Childs, Lynch
1966-1970 Lean years for me and the Giants  
Ivan15 : 1/27/2015 4:09 pm : link
No cable TV. I was in college upstate and all my fraternity brothers were Buffalo Bills fans (we were closer to Buffalo than NY). Even if the Giants happened to be on TV, I was usually overruled.

Whenever I wanted to watch the Giants, I got beer thrown at me.
I had no idea the Rams scored 70 in one of their victories  
cosmicj : 1/28/2015 10:06 am : link
in 1950. I thought that was achieved only twice in history (1940 championship game, the Redskins vs Giants in the reg season in the 60s). Are there any other 70 point days out there?

Interesting post.
Surprised that very high scoring games haven't increased recently...  
WideRight : 1/28/2015 10:20 am : link
Since offense is so heavily assisted by the competition commitee.

Theory: It takes a very good defense to contribute to a high scoring game. Either by scoring directly, or limiting the opposing offense's possesions. It's so easy to move the ball now, that both teams doing it prevents one team from busting the 50 pt level.
RE: Surprised that very high scoring games haven't increased recently...  
truebluelarry : 1/28/2015 3:02 pm : link
In comment 12112625 WideRight said:
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Since offense is so heavily assisted by the competition commitee.

Theory: It takes a very good defense to contribute to a high scoring game. Either by scoring directly, or limiting the opposing offense's possesions. It's so easy to move the ball now, that both teams doing it prevents one team from busting the 50 pt level.


Yards have increased, but scoring has actually decreased. The 1950's was actually the highest scoring period in history, there were more big plays. Since the 1970's what you get is a lot of ball movement between the 20-yard lines.

RE: I had no idea the Rams scored 70 in one of their victories  
truebluelarry : 1/28/2015 3:08 pm : link
In comment 12112599 cosmicj said:
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in 1950. I thought that was achieved only twice in history (1940 championship game, the Redskins vs Giants in the reg season in the 60s). Are there any other 70 point days out there?

The Rams were the second team to do it and the Redskins third. That's all.

There were a number of scores in the 60's during the early 1920's when the league was imbalanced. In 1922 the Arkron Pros beat the Oorang Indians 62-0 and the Rock Island Independents beat the Eavansville Crimson Giants 60-0. In 1923 the chicago Cardinals beat the Rochester Jeffersons (who were a strong team at an earlier point in time) 60-0.
Wasn't Marino's last ever game in '99(?)  
Big Blue '56 : 1/28/2015 3:27 pm : link
a 63-7(?) playoff rout at the hands of the Jaguars?
Jacksonville beat Miami 62-7 in the playoffs on 1-15-2000  
Defenderdawg : 1/29/2015 4:34 pm : link
The Jags also scored over 40 points three times during the regular season but couldn't handle Tennessee losing all 3 games, giving up 74 points in the final two meetings including the Conference Championship game.

As for the Giants

There was Randy Johnson auditioning for the WFL in the Giants 62-10 win over Philadelphia in 1972.
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