Hate on Lynch for this...hate on Sherman for his responses. Doesn't matter, apparently people want these guys to be forced to do this but then just spout the same bs that I could write for them. It would be great if they all worked together and gave the exact same responses to every question in the same order, then you could bitch that it was coordinated bs rather than every man for thenmselves
he understood what percentage of his salary is from TV revenues compared to the percentage from selling tickets. Then again, there is no cure for stupid.
When TC gives a smart ass answer it is hilarious....
Yeah, because TC handles the media like Lynch does.
Lynch is an asshole, plain and simple. Without the media involved he would be playing for nothing. The media and fans pay his salary. He should have some damn respect for the people who put money in his pocket.
Hate on Lynch for this...hate on Sherman for his responses. Doesn't matter, apparently people want these guys to be forced to do this but then just spout the same bs that I could write for them. It would be great if they all worked together and gave the exact same responses to every question in the same order, then you could bitch that it was coordinated bs rather than every man for thenmselves
Wrong. I don't care what he does or doesn't do. And I'm not judging whether the league is right or wrong in requiring it. But the league/team is paying him big bucks and this is part of the requirements for employment. Instead of acting like a responsible adult, a man, hes acting like a petulant child. That's an opinion, not a condemnation, because it doesn't affect me one way or another. What I would like to condemn is this God awful use of the term "hate". It has totally no relevance here or in most of the places its used nowadays. If there is one inappropriately used word I would like to condemn, that's it. I guess you could say I HATE it.
he understood what percentage of his salary is from TV revenues compared to the percentage from selling tickets. Then again, there is no cure for stupid.
It has nothing to do with being on TV and entirely on the media misinterpreting and misquoting Lynch early on in his career while in Buffalo.
His salary and what percentage comes from where is also irrelevant. The reporters aren't the one signing his check, that would be Paul Allen.
and full of shit hypocrites in so many ways...the league has so many issues and they want to harp on a guy not talking? its a joke, the league is focusing on the wrong issues, its like a political statement
he understood what percentage of his salary is from TV revenues compared to the percentage from selling tickets. Then again, there is no cure for stupid.
It has nothing to do with being on TV and entirely on the media misinterpreting and misquoting Lynch early on in his career while in Buffalo.
His salary and what percentage comes from where is also irrelevant. The reporters aren't the one signing his check, that would be Paul Allen.
Except that the one signing the checks is requiring him to respond to the media questions. And a person with any intelligence at all would understand the reasons why ... such as where the money is being generated.
They asked Chancellor why Lynch acted that way towards the media Â
And he basically said that Lynch got tired of them misquoting and misinterpreting what he said trying to make a story out of it, so he stop doing interviews all together.
RE: RE: RE: Perhaps Mr. Lynch would feel different about giving TV interviews if Â
he understood what percentage of his salary is from TV revenues compared to the percentage from selling tickets. Then again, there is no cure for stupid.
It has nothing to do with being on TV and entirely on the media misinterpreting and misquoting Lynch early on in his career while in Buffalo.
His salary and what percentage comes from where is also irrelevant. The reporters aren't the one signing his check, that would be Paul Allen.
Except that the one signing the checks is requiring him to respond to the media questions. And a person with any intelligence at all would understand the reasons why ... such as where the money is being generated.
He has been responding to the questions, just not how you or others would like.
t's the league that requires players to speak to the media, not the team.
and he should get fined for these juvenile answers.
Why do you care if he gets fined? Are you actually rooting for it?
Fans are so fickle on this player shit. Some are offended that Lynch doesnt really want to talk to the media. Others get pissed that guys like Sherman say what they're really thinking. It's no wonder that so many of these guys come off as automatons talking to the press, spouting content free platitudes. Would want to give someone bulletin board material; that could motivate the opposing team to try to win the Super Bowl!
RE: RE: RE: RE: Perhaps Mr. Lynch would feel different about giving TV interviews if Â
he understood what percentage of his salary is from TV revenues compared to the percentage from selling tickets. Then again, there is no cure for stupid.
It has nothing to do with being on TV and entirely on the media misinterpreting and misquoting Lynch early on in his career while in Buffalo.
His salary and what percentage comes from where is also irrelevant. The reporters aren't the one signing his check, that would be Paul Allen.
Except that the one signing the checks is requiring him to respond to the media questions. And a person with any intelligence at all would understand the reasons why ... such as where the money is being generated.
He has been responding to the questions, just not how you or others would like.
t's the league that requires players to speak to the media, not the team.
Do I really have to explain this? First, the league consists of the teams, and the owners set the rules (good grief).
Second, once again, I don't give a rats ass how he responds, but its obvious he is not responding TO THE QUESTIONS, which I suspect is kinda what the owners had in mind when requiring the interviews. The bottom line is that even though it makes no difference at all to me, its obvious that he is acting in an immature way. That's his choice, and its exactly how a petulant child would act when required to do something they didn't want to do.
and he should get fined for these juvenile answers.
Why do you care if he gets fined? Are you actually rooting for it?
Fans are so fickle on this player shit. Some are offended that Lynch doesnt really want to talk to the media. Others get pissed that guys like Sherman say what they're really thinking. It's no wonder that so many of these guys come off as automatons talking to the press, spouting content free platitudes. Would want to give someone bulletin board material; that could motivate the opposing team to try to win the Super Bowl!
Deej, just to be clear, I DON'T care, and I suspect that most others here don't either. But we have a thread discussing opinions on what he is doing. My opinion is that its juvenile ... but I really don't care.
RE: Yeah... he should just give the same PC answers everyone else gives... Â
Boneman, you have to admit, though, that when grabbing his junk seems to be his special TD celebration, maybe it's hard to give a guy the benefit of the doubt.
Yes it is a league rule, and the league is made up of its member teams. That doesnt mean all the owners support the rule. Think of my law firm -- we have a rule that all employees including lawyers are expected to be in at a certain time. A number of the partners get in after that and think it is a stupid rule as applied to lawyers.
I seriously doubt that Paul Allen gives a shit about whether Lynch responds to these questions. Money talks, and I find it hard to believe that the amount the Seahawks were willing to offer Lynch was set with any thought to this issue.
he understood what percentage of his salary is from TV revenues compared to the percentage from selling tickets. Then again, there is no cure for stupid.
It has nothing to do with being on TV and entirely on the media misinterpreting and misquoting Lynch early on in his career while in Buffalo.
His salary and what percentage comes from where is also irrelevant. The reporters aren't the one signing his check, that would be Paul Allen.
Except that the one signing the checks is requiring him to respond to the media questions. And a person with any intelligence at all would understand the reasons why ... such as where the money is being generated.
He has been responding to the questions, just not how you or others would like.
t's the league that requires players to speak to the media, not the team.
Do I really have to explain this? First, the league consists of the teams, and the owners set the rules (good grief).
Second, once again, I don't give a rats ass how he responds, but its obvious he is not responding TO THE QUESTIONS, which I suspect is kinda what the owners had in mind when requiring the interviews. The bottom line is that even though it makes no difference at all to me, its obvious that he is acting in an immature way. That's his choice, and its exactly how a petulant child would act when required to do something they didn't want to do.
Never accept the premise of the question.
Speaking of children, here's a recent interview with Lynch.
Boneman, you have to admit, though, that when grabbing his junk seems to be his special TD celebration, maybe it's hard to give a guy the benefit of the doubt.
Ultimately, as said above, he's a meathead.
Moon - I'm right there with ya regarding him grabbing his junk. He's shown that maturity isn't his strong suit with many of his actions throughout his career.... including this one.
That said, I really don't get the anger this brings out in people. The man doesn't like talking to the media because he feels he's been betrayed by them in the past. I can respect that. I also don't agree with his method of how he's handling interviews but at the same time I also can sympathize with WHY he's handling the interviews the way he is.
When Belichick doesn't feel like talking and gets into an interview and repeatedly answers every question 'We're moving on to *insert next opponent here*.' I don't recall seeing or hearing anyone refer to him as a jerk, immature or whatever. I've seen many athletes do the same thing that Belichick has done and yet when they do it it's 'immaturity' but when Belichick does it it's 'genius'.
oh, I agree it is juvenile. I just dont understand why a fan would want him to get fined over this. The penalties for non-compliance with rules that dont effect the game are just so far removed from what I care about.
But Im also a guy who isnt 100% comfortable with the league suspensions for guys like Rice and Peterson (and the boot Donald Sterling got). In the end I can support it because the NFL is an entertainment business, but Im not completely behind it. Sterling was an easier call to me.
Belichick referred to as a jerk for the way he handles the media at times, you haven't been paying attention.
Perhaps he has (not JUST because of his not answering media questions though)... but can't recall too many times when 'immature', 'juvenile' and calls for fines have been thrown out at him.
Belichick referred to as a jerk for the way he handles the media at times, you haven't been paying attention.
If you had to answer the same idiotic questions day after day for 15 years, you'd probably come across as a jerk too.
The NFL probably requires these interviews precisely for responses like Lynch's (or Sherman's). They know 90% of the players are going to give PC, by-the-book responses to the questions. It's the other 10% of the responses that creates the headlines and builds the hype though, which is what they're really after.
oh, I agree it is juvenile. I just dont understand why a fan would want him to get fined over this. The penalties for non-compliance with rules that dont effect the game are just so far removed from what I care about.
But Im also a guy who isnt 100% comfortable with the league suspensions for guys like Rice and Peterson (and the boot Donald Sterling got). In the end I can support it because the NFL is an entertainment business, but Im not completely behind it. Sterling was an easier call to me.
I'm reading this right? Sterling was an easier call for you over Ray Rice beating the shit out of his wife on tape?
The only juvenile thing here is the NFL's requirement of players to do these awful appearances. With feeling: Lynch is a football player, nothing more. He owes the media nothing.
Good for him for pulling the curtain back on this bullshit.
The only juvenile thing here is the NFL's requirement of players to do these awful appearances. With feeling: Lynch is a football player, nothing more. He owes the media nothing.
Good for him for pulling the curtain back on this bullshit.
Funny how some here can't tell the difference between Sherman speaking his mind (which is fine within reason) and someone who refuses to talk to the media and will be fined for it. Doing this is part of your NFL job.
Tut, tut Terps. You're being juvenile and immature. Just ask the classy gentlemen here who project themselves onto these athletes, and imagine how they'd dazzle the media with their wit, charm and colorful berets, if given the opportunity.
He is one of best humans you could ever meet. He seriously goes out of his way to help people better themselves and pull themselves out of tough situations. He is a quiet guy that doesn't like doing the interviews. He has said I don't want to do interviews and they keep forcing him to do it. It is really kind of messed up. Why is the NFL so concerned about what Marshawn has to say. There are millions of other players that are looking to have a camera stuck in their face. He isn't one that likes to have that. He is such a good person and seriously extremely funny when you get to talk to him. He came from a hard town and hard times. He pulled himself out of that with his family behind him. He was raised that nothing good comes from talking to the media and he is right. He is not a meat head, he is not so asshole, he isn't any of that. He is a quiet guy that doesn't want to be forced into doing something he doesn't want to do.
The only juvenile thing here is the NFL's requirement of players to do these awful appearances. With feeling: Lynch is a football player, nothing more. He owes the media nothing.
Good for him for pulling the curtain back on this bullshit.
He absolutely owes the media nothing. Does he owe his employers (team/league) anything for those millions? The teams realize that media attention is a driver of popularity and revenue. they decided its in the best interest of the league/team to have the players available to the media to help drive this popularity. Right or wrong, its not without reason and its a condition of employment. I don't know about you, but I've often had to suck it up and do things I disagreed with because my employer required it. Once I progressed past childhood I realized that I couldn't only do things I liked or agreed with. I might refuse and be prepared to pay the penalty, but I never engaged in a childish charade to voice my displeasure
Tut, tut Terps. You're being juvenile and immature. Just ask the classy gentlemen here who project themselves onto these athletes, and imagine how they'd dazzle the media with their wit, charm and colorful berets, if given the opportunity.
Dazzle the media? No. Man up and do my job, yes. And no, Terps is not being juvenile, he's voicing his opinion as many others here are.
Whether he owes the fans or media anything is irrelevant Â
It is in his contract to do these interviews. A contract I am pretty sure he signed. Since it is unlikely anyone forced him to sign it, he willingly agreed to the terms. If he is going to cash the checks, he needs to fulfill his obligations in the agreement too. You don't get to sign the contract and then ignore the clauses you don't like.
His appearance complied with the letter of the contract, if not the spirit. IMO it was juvenile, but I'm also pretty sure Lynch doesn't care what any of us think, nor should he.
and people are still bitching that he's got a responsibility to the fans. DUH - if fans of a team 3000 miles away from him can generate two pages of comments, I think he's doing his share for the fans.
If the league didn't think this was great theatre, they wouldn't keep trotting him out in front of the media to go into his schtick. There are plenty of people (especially on that team) who will talk the media's ear off. They bring him out because his non-answers sell better than most people's answers.
The NFL is like sports talk radio. It's okay if you piss them off, as long as they keep tuning in.
and people are still bitching that he's got a responsibility to the fans. DUH - if fans of a team 3000 miles away from him can generate two pages of comments, I think he's doing his share for the fans.
If the league didn't think this was great theatre, they wouldn't keep trotting him out in front of the media to go into his schtick. There are plenty of people (especially on that team) who will talk the media's ear off. They bring him out because his non-answers sell better than most people's answers.
The NFL is like sports talk radio. It's okay if you piss them off, as long as they keep tuning in.
Bingo. That's exactly what this is about to the NFL offices. Not Lynch "owing" the media or fans anything. More theatre = more $$
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It is in his contract to do these interviews. A contract I am pretty sure he signed. Since it is unlikely anyone forced him to sign it, he willingly agreed to the terms. If he is going to cash the checks, he needs to fulfill his obligations in the agreement too. You don't get to sign the contract and then ignore the clauses you don't like.
His appearance complied with the letter of the contract, if not the spirit. IMO it was juvenile, but I'm also pretty sure Lynch doesn't care what any of us think, nor should he.
he doesn't get paid extra to do interviews. In his mind he is paid to play football. He doesn't read through his contract, his agent does. He knows it is written that he be available for interviews, but he doesn't want to do them and has expressed so. He has paid out so much to prove as much. Now you want to still force him to be in front of the mic fine. 4.5 mins of I'm here so I won't get fined. Stop forcing him to do it. What could he possible say that would make everyone go Ohhhh thank goodness we asked Marshawn Lynch if he thought he could run against NE. He said he feels his OL can open wholes for him to run thru. Just stupid they feel the need to force this and I don't blame him for doing what he is doing.
Why do people care so much about these irrelevant nonstories? Especially enough to call the guy an asshole when they don't even know the guy. Seems strange.
I'm reading this right? Sterling was an easier call for you over Ray Rice beating the shit out of his wife on tape?
Yes, though it's fair to raise one's eyebrows at it. In Sterling's case, his partners did not want to be partner with his anymore. But Sterling was never going to be out him money -- either his wife or the league would have sold that team and gotten him his buyout.
With Rice and Peterson, the league just declared that these guys couldnt play anymore and couldnt get paid. Crucially, it's a monopolistic league -- there is not other pro football league in the US. And I heard that the CFL would honor those contracts/suspensions too. A strong argument can be made for letting the market decide this -- if a team wants to sign him, so be it. No one was going to touch Rice. But to me, it's tough to deny someone any opportunity to earn at their profession for off the field stuff. Then you start to have line drawing issues; how come Ray Rice and not the 10s/100s of wife beaters before him (answer: video)? Why is a DUI not as bad as what AP did -- it is more dangerous. etc. How about emotional abuse? Are we going to suspend very, very shitty fathers?
Ultimately I come out okay with what each of those leagues did, but only because (1) lines do need to be drawn, and (2) I view the NFL and NBA as entertainment businesses and not as some high-minded sporting ideal. Rice and AP were going to cost their bosses big money in terms of lost revenue. Sterling was costing his partners money. You work at Wendys and you constantly ruin inventory, you're getting fired; you get paid a lot more in the NFL and commit crimes that cost your bosses millions, you should expect to not work there anymore.
True, some fans are probably offended by Lynch's antics. But most don't care. When he barely spoke to the press during last year's media day, inspiring one writer to say fans see him as "a pampered brat," a SportsNation poll found that 87 percent of respondents didn't object to Lynch's behavior. A few weeks ago, ESPN reporter Darren Rovell asked his followers if Lynch should be obliged to provide the media with "meaningful answers." More than 1,000 people responded, and 83 percent of them said no. Seattle Seahawks GM John Schneider, the guy who issues Lynch's paychecks, recently told reporters he isn't bothered by his employee's attitude. "I kind of love his act," he said.
Lynch has gone the early day Patrick Ewing one better. He is either very painfully shy or sick. He is in need of some professional counseling. I'd guess he can afford it.
There is an obvious double-standard in the NFL when it comes to the owners and the players. Lynch is just commenting on that with his canned answer. In fact I think what he is doing is pretty funny. Like putting up a sign that says on it "Do Not Read This Sign"
Somehow, somewhere, in his stupid little mind, there's a voice saying Â
some class and leave Lynch alone. There are plenty of players willing to talk and leverage the media for their own brand.
But at this point, they know what Lynch is going to do, and there is nothing truly newsworthy. But they demonstrate they like to agitate and become part of the story. Showing their true colors, really...
There is an obvious double-standard in the NFL when it comes to the owners and the players. Lynch is just commenting on that with his canned answer. In fact I think what he is doing is pretty funny. Like putting up a sign that says on it "Do Not Read This Sign"
Double standard? You mean like the players sign a contract that says they have to be available and the owners don't?
There is an obvious double-standard in the NFL when it comes to the owners and the players. Lynch is just commenting on that with his canned answer. In fact I think what he is doing is pretty funny. Like putting up a sign that says on it "Do Not Read This Sign"
1- Give me 1 business, just 1 company, anywhere in the world where there isnt a difference between the owner and the employees.
2- Even if those are his intentions, how did you make that connection?
The NFL's media obligations are bullshit, but Lynch met them today by appearing. If the NFL doesn't like what he had to say, they can prepare a script and mandate that he read from it.
If the NFL doesn't like it, then suspend Lynch. Otherwise, shut the fuck up about it. Lynch doesn't owe these halfassed networks a bunch of quotes for their awful stories. ESPN hasn't been good enough to generate quality content for years now...if they need a generic quote to do their jobs, that's on them.
Good for Lynch. Hopefully other players follow his lead and the media are actually forced to put out decent content for a change.
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some class and leave Lynch alone. There are plenty of players willing to talk and leverage the media for their own brand.
But at this point, they know what Lynch is going to do, and there is nothing truly newsworthy. But they demonstrate they like to agitate and become part of the story. Showing their true colors, really...
He is one of best humans you could ever meet. He seriously goes out of his way to help people better themselves and pull themselves out of tough situations. He is a quiet guy that doesn't like doing the interviews. He has said I don't want to do interviews and they keep forcing him to do it. It is really kind of messed up. Why is the NFL so concerned about what Marshawn has to say. There are millions of other players that are looking to have a camera stuck in their face. He isn't one that likes to have that. He is such a good person and seriously extremely funny when you get to talk to him. He came from a hard town and hard times. He pulled himself out of that with his family behind him. He was raised that nothing good comes from talking to the media and he is right. He is not a meat head, he is not so asshole, he isn't any of that. He is a quiet guy that doesn't want to be forced into doing something he doesn't want to do.
The same lynch from buffalo right?
This one right?
Best Human ever?
In June 2008, he pleaded guilty to a traffic violation and admitted to driving off after striking a female pedestrian with his car near Buffalo's downtown bar district.
In March 2009, Lynch pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor gun charge in Los Angeles, after police discovered a semiautomatic handgun in a backpack of the trunk of a parked car Lynch was sitting in
RE: RE: Whether he owes the fans or media anything is irrelevant Â
It is in his contract to do these interviews. A contract I am pretty sure he signed. Since it is unlikely anyone forced him to sign it, he willingly agreed to the terms. If he is going to cash the checks, he needs to fulfill his obligations in the agreement too. You don't get to sign the contract and then ignore the clauses you don't like.
His appearance complied with the letter of the contract, if not the spirit. IMO it was juvenile, but I'm also pretty sure Lynch doesn't care what any of us think, nor should he.
he doesn't get paid extra to do interviews. In his mind he is paid to play football. He doesn't read through his contract, his agent does. He knows it is written that he be available for interviews, but he doesn't want to do them and has expressed so. He has paid out so much to prove as much. Now you want to still force him to be in front of the mic fine. 4.5 mins of I'm here so I won't get fined. Stop forcing him to do it. What could he possible say that would make everyone go Ohhhh thank goodness we asked Marshawn Lynch if he thought he could run against NE. He said he feels his OL can open wholes for him to run thru. Just stupid they feel the need to force this and I don't blame him for doing what he is doing.
He doesn't have to get paid "extra" - it's part of his contract. And if he signs the contract, he needs to live up to it. How he views what he gets paid for is also totally irrelevant.
Whether you think the media interviews add anything or not also doesn't matter. He put his name on a contract that obligated him to fulfill certain obligations for payment. He was fined for not fulfilling that, so he showed up to meet the letter of the law if not the spirit of it. How that gets addressed is between employee and employer.
But as to whether he needs to do the interviews or not, it's pretty clear he does.
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He put his name on a contract that obligated him to fulfill certain obligations for payment. He was fined for not fulfilling that, so he showed up to meet the letter of the law if not the spirit of it. How that gets addressed is between employee and employer.
But as to whether he needs to do the interviews or not, it's pretty clear he does.
And if the Seahawks or the NFL decide to sue him for breach of contract, they can open that "spirit of the rules" can of worms.
Something tells me Seattle's ownership wouldn't be in favor of anything like that.
Boneman, you have to admit, though, that when grabbing his junk seems to be his special TD celebration, maybe it's hard to give a guy the benefit of the doubt.
Ultimately, as said above, he's a meathead.
Moon - I'm right there with ya regarding him grabbing his junk. He's shown that maturity isn't his strong suit with many of his actions throughout his career.... including this one.
That said, I really don't get the anger this brings out in people. The man doesn't like talking to the media because he feels he's been betrayed by them in the past. I can respect that. I also don't agree with his method of how he's handling interviews but at the same time I also can sympathize with WHY he's handling the interviews the way he is.
When Belichick doesn't feel like talking and gets into an interview and repeatedly answers every question 'We're moving on to *insert next opponent here*.' I don't recall seeing or hearing anyone refer to him as a jerk, immature or whatever. I've seen many athletes do the same thing that Belichick has done and yet when they do it it's 'immaturity' but when Belichick does it it's 'genius'.
This is fair. When TC blows the media off in NY, I kind of appreciate it because it's just a dumb game, and they are not really good at actual football reporting.
It's just hard to separate the act from your understanding of the guy doing the act. I frankly trust TC and even BB more (the latter less so).
In my first post I said "He's being a juvenile asshole". I generally avoid calling anyone an asshole, especially someone I don't know, and I did not here. More clearly that should have been worded "He's acting like a juvenile asshole". Both statements are essentially the same, but "acting like" is a clearer statement that I'm referring to the actions, not to him personally. And again, that's just my personal opinion, and my wife tells me I'm not always right.
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He is one of best humans you could ever meet. He seriously goes out of his way to help people better themselves and pull themselves out of tough situations. He is a quiet guy that doesn't like doing the interviews. He has said I don't want to do interviews and they keep forcing him to do it. It is really kind of messed up. Why is the NFL so concerned about what Marshawn has to say. There are millions of other players that are looking to have a camera stuck in their face. He isn't one that likes to have that. He is such a good person and seriously extremely funny when you get to talk to him. He came from a hard town and hard times. He pulled himself out of that with his family behind him. He was raised that nothing good comes from talking to the media and he is right. He is not a meat head, he is not so asshole, he isn't any of that. He is a quiet guy that doesn't want to be forced into doing something he doesn't want to do.
The same lynch from buffalo right?
This one right?
Best Human ever?
In June 2008, he pleaded guilty to a traffic violation and admitted to driving off after striking a female pedestrian with his car near Buffalo's downtown bar district.
In March 2009, Lynch pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor gun charge in Los Angeles, after police discovered a semiautomatic handgun in a backpack of the trunk of a parked car Lynch was sitting in
Oh sorry you thought I meant perfect. No in that hit and run case he said he didn't know he hit her. It was raining and he made a plea deal to avoid charges. The drunk lady was dancing in the streets in the rain and I am sure the case was super solid.
Misdemeanor gun charge of a gun in a back pack in the trunk of a car he was riding in. He plead guilty to avoid charges.
Great examples to bring up. How about this... Lynch is also known for his frequent community involvement. In 2013 he was featured in Red Bull's campaign "Athletes Give Back" when he put together a very successful food drive for his home town.
How about the fact he started and gives back to his Fam First Foundation. He works to help kids in that are in and raised in bad areas. He gives so much of his time to go and help people. He gives back so much to his community that he was raised in. Oakland isn't the easiest and I noticed you didn't put anything up about him being shot at during a drive by because they thought he was someone else. That is where he is from. Has he made mistakes yes, but does that make him a bad person? No it doesn't. He would give you his shirt of his back if you needed it. He found a wallet and tracked the guy down and gave it back to him. He could of had a huge Heisman campaign at Cal and he said he won't take pictures unless the other 2 RBs he played with (one being Justin Forsett from Balt.) were in the pic as they were just as good as him. He is so unselfish it is crazy. He is a great teammate and everyone loved him because he would rather talk about how good you were than how good he was. In the NFL with all the egos that is amazing. He still goes to Cal and the first thing he tells kids is they need to really focus on school and get a good education. That do what it takes to make their lives and family situations better. You don't know him though just some report that you probably didn't even read.
he was going to skip the media day and the NFL heard they jacked the fine up to $500,000 ... Tell me that is right. Tell me that is ok to do. They want him there so he can do this and get attention for the NFL. Gives them something to talk about during their biggest week. Just stupid to me.
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Oh sorry you thought I meant perfect. No in that hit and run case he said he didn't know he hit her. It was raining and he made a plea deal to avoid charges. The drunk lady was dancing in the streets in the rain and I am sure the case was super solid.
Misdemeanor gun charge of a gun in a back pack in the trunk of a car he was riding in. He plead guilty to avoid charges.
Great examples to bring up. How about this... Lynch is also known for his frequent community involvement. In 2013 he was featured in Red Bull's campaign "Athletes Give Back" when he put together a very successful food drive for his home town.
How about the fact he started and gives back to his Fam First Foundation. He works to help kids in that are in and raised in bad areas. He gives so much of his time to go and help people. He gives back so much to his community that he was raised in. Oakland isn't the easiest and I noticed you didn't put anything up about him being shot at during a drive by because they thought he was someone else. That is where he is from. Has he made mistakes yes, but does that make him a bad person? No it doesn't. He would give you his shirt of his back if you needed it. He found a wallet and tracked the guy down and gave it back to him. He could of had a huge Heisman campaign at Cal and he said he won't take pictures unless the other 2 RBs he played with (one being Justin Forsett from Balt.) were in the pic as they were just as good as him. He is so unselfish it is crazy. He is a great teammate and everyone loved him because he would rather talk about how good you were than how good he was. In the NFL with all the egos that is amazing. He still goes to Cal and the first thing he tells kids is they need to really focus on school and get a good education. That do what it takes to make their lives and family situations better. You don't know him though just some report that you probably didn't even read.
Why even entertain those that obviously don't like Lynch (or his antics)? I will say I didn't know about his off the field work, good stuff.
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Oh sorry you thought I meant perfect. No in that hit and run case he said he didn't know he hit her. It was raining and he made a plea deal to avoid charges. The drunk lady was dancing in the streets in the rain and I am sure the case was super solid.
Misdemeanor gun charge of a gun in a back pack in the trunk of a car he was riding in. He plead guilty to avoid charges.
Great examples to bring up. How about this... Lynch is also known for his frequent community involvement. In 2013 he was featured in Red Bull's campaign "Athletes Give Back" when he put together a very successful food drive for his home town.
How about the fact he started and gives back to his Fam First Foundation. He works to help kids in that are in and raised in bad areas. He gives so much of his time to go and help people. He gives back so much to his community that he was raised in. Oakland isn't the easiest and I noticed you didn't put anything up about him being shot at during a drive by because they thought he was someone else. That is where he is from. Has he made mistakes yes, but does that make him a bad person? No it doesn't. He would give you his shirt of his back if you needed it. He found a wallet and tracked the guy down and gave it back to him. He could of had a huge Heisman campaign at Cal and he said he won't take pictures unless the other 2 RBs he played with (one being Justin Forsett from Balt.) were in the pic as they were just as good as him. He is so unselfish it is crazy. He is a great teammate and everyone loved him because he would rather talk about how good you were than how good he was. In the NFL with all the egos that is amazing. He still goes to Cal and the first thing he tells kids is they need to really focus on school and get a good education. That do what it takes to make their lives and family situations better. You don't know him though just some report that you probably didn't even read.
Why even entertain those that obviously don't like Lynch (or his antics)? I will say I didn't know about his off the field work, good stuff.
Just upsets me because he is such a good guy. He makes mistakes, but his heart is gold. When you see a kid he helps that feels like they have no future and now they are striving it is amazing. Before anyone talks about what kind of asshole or meathead he is... Maybe they should look at how much they give back to their community and help others. Not saying anyone here gives less, but if you do give as much time and money as him you are hardly an asshole.
But, Big but, it IS part of his job description to talk to the media. The team, I.E the coach, should have taken care of this insubordinate behavior a long time ago.
Imagine the local police chief, required as part of his job to talk to the media, standing up in front of a national TV audience and repeatedly answered every question "I'm here so I won't get fired."
But, Big but, it IS part of his job description to talk to the media. The team, I.E the coach, should have taken care of this insubordinate behavior a long time ago.
Imagine the local police chief, required as part of his job to talk to the media, standing up in front of a national TV audience and repeatedly answered every question "I'm here so I won't get fired."
Not comparable. A RB isn't a cop.
What's the complaint anyway? Lynch showed up and fulfilled his media obligations according to the contract between the NFL and NFLPA.
saying I'm only talking to you because I'm mandated too seems like a perfectly reasonable response to me. It might be the most honest thing they heard all week. And it's given them a great windfall of things to talk about. It's unique, and the media loves unique.
Personally, I love it. His job is to play football, something he does very well. This week part of his job was to talk to the media, and he did. He spoke very loudly in his own way.
This country is overloaded with people who have the attitude that they can sign contracts and not live up to the obligations agreed to in the contracts. It is this very spirit among many other degenerate attitudes that is destroying this country and weakening society.
We live in a society today that is nothing but gimmie gimmie gimmie and many no longer believe in working hard for what they earn and ignore their obligations. Many will sew their next door neighbor because they tripped over a rock they failed to remove from their sidewalk and broke a leg. It will get much worse too.
I wonder how Lynch would like it if Seattle simply decided not to pay him but didn't tell him until after the Superbowl.
neither of those posts above actually showed up last night when I posted them, and they are out of order. In fact, I posted the second one (the first one as listed) because the first one didn't post.
I think it's wrong a person is required to speak to the media Â
And it goes up to the wrong that it's part of the contract in the first place.
Beyond that, I think it's wrong that if you speak to the media that you can't say whatever it is that's on your mind, truthfully. That includes thoughts and opinions of the league, including specific individuals and policies, refereeing, including specific individuals and decisions, religion, politics, whatever...
I can think of few things more offensive to me than someone not only being forced to talk but being forced to say specific things.
athlete interviews are generally a waste of time in the first place. There's either an agenda attached or they are playing up a specific persona. I tune in to watch the games, don't care about the rest.
His non responses were idiotic and I hope he gets fined the full $500,000.
Regardless of whether athlete interviews are a waste of time or what not, other people's jobs depends on athlete's availability to the media.
The media is what makes the sport so popular and what allows Lynch to get millions of dollars for playing a kid's game anyway.
Acting like this to the media evokes a similar reaction out of me as when athletes are complete dicks to fans. Don't forget that the media and the fans are why you are grossly overpaid in comparison to the actual importance to society of your job. You make millions because you make others millions, and you only make others millions due to fans and the media.
So sack the fuck up and answer the questions.
anyone who does everything possible to piss off the parasitic media Â
His non responses were idiotic and I hope he gets fined the full $500,000.
Regardless of whether athlete interviews are a waste of time or what not, other people's jobs depends on athlete's availability to the media.
The media is what makes the sport so popular and what allows Lynch to get millions of dollars for playing a kid's game anyway.
Acting like this to the media evokes a similar reaction out of me as when athletes are complete dicks to fans. Don't forget that the media and the fans are why you are grossly overpaid in comparison to the actual importance to society of your job. You make millions because you make others millions, and you only make others millions due to fans and the media.
So sack the fuck up and answer the questions.
If someone's job counts on milking mundane quotes out of athletes that aren't trained public speakers so they can fill column inches, that person either needs to get better at their job or find another job. Lynch fulfilled his contractual obligation to be present at media day. It's not enough for you that he spent his time doing something he clearly didn't want to...now you want him to answer questions the way you'd like? If that's the case, why doesn't the NFL just give him a script?
The truth is that there is no need for the mission the media is attempting to accomplish through this relationship with players. The guys that actually break stories (like Glazer) are important and add to the experience. The people writing filler columns stocked with filler quotes in an attempt to "connect" the players to the fans have been made obsolete by social media. If Lynch wants to connect with the fans he can do it directly on his own. The middle man is not needed.
I don't really care what any of these pro athletes have to say especially when they are being asked the typical fluff shit after or before a game. But on the other side these athletes need to accept that part of their job is to deal with the media. The media feeds the fans and without the fans these guys aren't getting paid to play.
Whenever these athletes boycott the media they may not know it but they are basically saying FU to the fans. Lynch should just tell the hawks and the nfl he's not going to talk to the media at all and just get all the fines over with and save everyone a lot of time.
Like beningo says wait until these angry athletes and coaches that hated the media retire from the game and no one cares about them anymore--- many go running back to the same media outlets they antagonized earlier asking for a job.
The media is what makes the sport so popular and what allows Lynch to get millions of dollars for playing a kid's game anyway.
Can't believe I missed this little morsel of idiocy. The media is what makes the sport popular? Really? Not the athletes on the field but the gnawing little rats writing about them?
The media has too many employees with such low quality that I say good riddance to most of them. Everyone is a "reporter" or "journalist" now. They aren't quite as bad as paparazzi, but its getting there.
The media can go collectively jump off a bridge for all I care.
First of all, with regards to "other people's jobs" - a high school friend of mine is the sports anchor for a Rochester news station. I wouldn't exactly call him a "parasite", he's a fucking news anchor, and he's been in situations like this. It's that fucking hard to answer someone's questions? You're already rich and famous, god forbid you a half hour to answer questions about the people who are the reason you are a celebrity to the magnitude that you are and who are the reason you are paid the amount you are paid?
As for Greg in LI, BBI's resident angriest person alive, uh yes, of course the media is the reason the sport is as popular as it is today. And it's this popularity that affects revenue, and subsequently salary. How could someone even disagree with this? If media outlets didn't cover the NFL, do you think players would get paid as much as they do today?
I don't give a fuck if he gave cookie cutter non answers, or didn't give a soundbyte. That's not his job. But to be a complete and total fucking dick to the media all year is just stupid. Lynch is a dumbass and he's always been a dumbass, and this falls right in line with Lynch's stupidity. This is the same moron who thought he was going to fly to NYC and hang out with Jay-Z when he got drafted by the Bills, then was shocked to find snow all over the ground.
If there's some sort of contentious issue or misinterpretation with the media, okay, I get being curt and short.
If you have a social anxiety disorder like Ricky Williams did, you shouldn't have to stand up there and get questioned.
But unless I'm missing something (maybe I am), Lynch is just being an asshole to be an asshole. Lame.
The media is not the reason for Lynch's popularity Â
He's a great player that's phenomenal to watch play. He owes a lot more to any FOX cameraman than he does to some guy trying to write a story off of him.
What about looking at it the other way? Why can't a reporter write a story without pestering Lynch for a quote?
I sincerely hope other athletes follow Lynch's lead and give reporters the choice of actually doing good work or obsolescence.
but aside from the repetitive moronic questions, I think what athletes(anyone) are annoyed by the most are being misquoted or having their comments taken out of context..
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He's a great player that's phenomenal to watch play. He owes a lot more to any FOX cameraman than he does to some guy trying to write a story off of him.
What about looking at it the other way? Why can't a reporter write a story without pestering Lynch for a quote?
I sincerely hope other athletes follow Lynch's lead and give reporters the choice of actually doing good work or obsolescence.
What I meant is that the media is the reason for the league's popularity. Lynch is popular because he's an awesome player to watch in the NFL. The NFL is as popular and lucrative as it is because of the media coverage it receives.
Dude makes more money than the vast majority of people will in their entire lives. It's too much to ask of him to not be a dick to reporters? At least give generic, boring answers, without coming off and acting like a total dick to the people who make the league you play in as popular as it is.
anti media personally. They have their job to do, and some do it well. I like most of the people who cover the Giant's work. But that does not in itself mean that the player's owe them their time. Some players love sharing with the media, other's don't. If a player like Lynch honestly doesn't want to do the dance, there is nothing wrong with him publicly saying he doesn't want to do the dance.
I wouldn't want to do it either. You'd never hear a peep out of me if I was in his spotlight.
I would argue that the NFL is popular because it has (or at least once had) a phenomenal product. It's a great game that is perfect for television.
Rather than the media making the NFL popular, I think it's the other way around. ESPN and its various clones wouldn't exist (at least not in their current forms) were it not for the NFL.
Here's the thing...the media hasn't given Lynch anything. If ESPN and its clones didn't exist I think the games would still be televised and draw ratings massive enough to generate Lynch's contract. But if Lynch and his colleagues weren't out there on Sundays there'd be less reason for the sports media to even exist in its current form.
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He can answer questions as he sees fit, with the knowledge that he forfeits a part of his salary (in the form of fines) to the extent he fails to comply with his contractual obligations as an NFL player.
He can answer questions as he sees fit, with the knowledge that he forfeits a part of his salary (in the form of fines) to the extent he fails to comply with his contractual obligations as an NFL player.
Well...if he decides to bitch and whine about getting fined, he can go to the media. But I doubt that he will do either...:)
Something similar to this happened with LT before XXI. He threatened to blow off Media Day, the NFL told him he'd get fined, so he showed up but didn't say much of anything.
He is dissin the system that pays his and his teammates salary. He is in the entertainment business which only sells tickets based on public awareness and hype from reporters/TV. He now makes a mockery of the NFL office just because he does not want to do something that benefits the sport and all of the NFL income. No one player is above the sport. If he does not want to participate, then don't play and/or accept the salary that the other players are supporting by feeding the system.
I would argue that the NFL is popular because it has (or at least once had) a phenomenal product. It's a great game that is perfect for television.
Rather than the media making the NFL popular, I think it's the other way around. ESPN and its various clones wouldn't exist (at least not in their current forms) were it not for the NFL.
Here's the thing...the media hasn't given Lynch anything. If ESPN and its clones didn't exist I think the games would still be televised and draw ratings massive enough to generate Lynch's contract. But if Lynch and his colleagues weren't out there on Sundays there'd be less reason for the sports media to even exist in its current form.
No offense, but saying sports media wouldn't exist if there weren't any sports is a little...obvious?
And football is a great game, but we both know that all sports leagues increase their value by marketing personalities - fans root for a team, but relate to and like players.
For example, there will always be Giants fans, but would Giant jerseys (#13) be selling like they are if Beckham weren't a) a hyper-talented athlete; and b) hyped daily by the media?
The game will always be the game, but the media amplifies it - to say that some of the NFL's value isn't owed to the media would be incorrect.
I'm not sure that Beckham jerseys are being bought because of ESPN Â
Is a 13 year old kid asking his parents for a jersey because they're talking about Beckham on Around the Horn, or is it because he is an incredible player that makes unusually great plays seem pretty usual, and he can go on YouTube (not ESPN) and watch them over and over?
And while I agree that it's obvious the sports media wouldn't exist without sports, that doesn't seem to be obvious to many people here. Reading some of these posts you'd get the sense that the media themselves are signing Lynch's game checks.
I don't think the media is as important in the relationship anymore, or even important at all. Take ESPN and their ilk off the air and people will still watch and rewatch, because they are no longer reliant on ESPN to deliver highlights. People are their own reporters now...a phenomenon we see on YouTube, Reddit, and right here on BBI.
A throwaway story from a reporter at the Seattle Post Intelligencer doesn't fit into that dynamic anymore.
I don't know why Lynch doesn't always show up and do this. Â
Avoid the fines and get your way all at once.. all the while actually calling attention to something he clearly think is a problem (automatic media obligations).
I think it's fair to say the media in the traditional Â
sense has fragmented, but the large networks remain key to the NFL not only in terms of distribution, but in terms of profitability. To say there isn't a direct link between those contracts and player compensation is to ignore reality.
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sense has fragmented, but the large networks remain key to the NFL not only in terms of distribution, but in terms of profitability. To say there isn't a direct link between those contracts and player compensation is to ignore reality.
Yes, the large networks that televise the games. Theirs are the contracts that are paying the players. The games are the commodity.
In ESPN's example, they pay the players with the money they spend for the right to air Monday Night Football. But Marshawn Lynch isn't seeing money because they called him a beast on Cold Pizza or whatever garbage ESPN is currently passing for programming. And if ESPN decides not to pay for MNF in the future because players won't talk, fine. Someone will be there waiting to offer the NFL double for MNF.
The networks that air the games matter, but they only matter while the games are on. No one is going to stop watching if the networks change...this was proven when CBS lost the NFC games to an upstart FOX network.
The demand for the games themselves is inelastic, the rest doesn't matter.
of Cold Pizza, or whatever show, but the benefit certainly accrues to the NFL. Anything that enhances or increases the perception of the players or the game adds to the value of the enterprise. Basic marketing...does one outlet "matter"? Probably not, but in aggregate the "media" has value to the NFL.
RE: RE: I think it's fair to say the media in the traditional Â
sense has fragmented, but the large networks remain key to the NFL not only in terms of distribution, but in terms of profitability. To say there isn't a direct link between those contracts and player compensation is to ignore reality.
Yes, the large networks that televise the games. Theirs are the contracts that are paying the players. The games are the commodity.
In ESPN's example, they pay the players with the money they spend for the right to air Monday Night Football. But Marshawn Lynch isn't seeing money because they called him a beast on Cold Pizza or whatever garbage ESPN is currently passing for programming. And if ESPN decides not to pay for MNF in the future because players won't talk, fine. Someone will be there waiting to offer the NFL double for MNF.
The networks that air the games matter, but they only matter while the games are on. No one is going to stop watching if the networks change...this was proven when CBS lost the NFC games to an upstart FOX network.
The demand for the games themselves is inelastic, the rest doesn't matter.
You need only look at the group of people complaining the most about this to see who needs who more. Based on what I'm seeing, the biggest complaints about Lynch are coming from the sports pages of the dying newspaper industry.
Marshawn Lynch makes his money because broadcast rights for the NFL are worth billions of dollars, which would be the case if the entire sports writing industry collapsed tomorrow. As long as the games are on TV and people are gambling on them or playing fantasy football, the NFL will print money.
I'm a little late to this discussion but I feel the need Â
to weigh in. To me, Marshawn is acting lime a petulant child and I hope the NFL keeps throwing the book at him.
I may not agree with the rule, but its still a rule. Marshawn continues to, purposely and knowingly, defy the rules and fly in the face of the NFL. He's bringing all of this shit on himself.
You dont like the rules? Who gives a shit. I dont like all the rules at my job but im not childish enough to continually mock those rules in public. And if i did then i probably wouldnt have that job much longer.
Isnt this the same guy who drove a Lamborghini to a club and roped it off to keep people away? Yeah, sounds like a real grounded person. This guy is an uber douche that never progressed past the age of 8.
RE: I'm a little late to this discussion but I feel the need Â
to weigh in. To me, Marshawn is acting lime a petulant child and I hope the NFL keeps throwing the book at him.
I may not agree with the rule, but its still a rule. Marshawn continues to, purposely and knowingly, defy the rules and fly in the face of the NFL. He's bringing all of this shit on himself.
You dont like the rules? Who gives a shit. I dont like all the rules at my job but im not childish enough to continually mock those rules in public. And if i did then i probably wouldnt have that job much longer.
Isnt this the same guy who drove a Lamborghini to a club and roped it off to keep people away? Yeah, sounds like a real grounded person. This guy is an uber douche that never progressed past the age of 8.
a huge circus and in most cases a waste of time. He has to be there...fine, he doesn't want to be there...fine. He does the required minimum and he's out...So what?
its not just media day, he's been pulling this shit all season Â
Unapproved baseball caps, golden cleats, snubbing the media, etc. He's been poking the bear all season with that attention whore Richard Sherman egging him on all season. At least Sherman somewhat entertaining.
Lynch just comes off as a douche. Just shut the fuck up and do your job lime every other football player. Nobody else seems to have a problem doing these interviews but Lynch is awesome because he bucks the system? Come the fuck on. Grow up. He tests the NFL like my 7 year old tests me at dinner. I hope they fine the shit out of him just for being an immature prick.
I don't know, it's possible. Ricky Williams used to wear a helmet on his head because he couldn't look people in the eye when talking. I notice that in most of these interviews, not just this week but during the course of the year as well, Lynch is wearing sunglasses. As well as the dark visor on his helmet.
I do not know if this is the case with Lynch. It may not be. But I do know I wouldn't automatically call someone a dick or an asshole just because they don't like talking with people. Not everyone is going to be the social butterfly, even if it is mandated as part of the job.
I don't know, it's possible. Ricky Williams used to wear a helmet on his head because he couldn't look people in the eye when talking. I notice that in most of these interviews, not just this week but during the course of the year as well, Lynch is wearing sunglasses. As well as the dark visor on his helmet.
I do not know if this is the case with Lynch. It may not be. But I do know I wouldn't automatically call someone a dick or an asshole just because they don't like talking with people. Not everyone is going to be the social butterfly, even if it is mandated as part of the job.
Ummm, no. It's a nice thought but I don't believe for one second that it's "social issues." Someone with social issues isn't going to sit there and repeat the same line (a line mocking the NFL) for every question while also mocking the media. He was being a smart ass. Don't know that's not completely transparent to you. Have you even seen the video?
And sunglasses? Really? Tons of people where sunglasses all the time...day, night, tv, interviews. Ray Lewis wore a dark visor on his helmet...did he have social issues? Well, maybe a bad example lol, but you get the point. Plus, if Lynch had social issues, don't you think that would be known? That's a tough thing to keep secret while being in the spotlight.
Just call it what it is...Lynch is just bucking the system.
RE: its not just media day, he's been pulling this shit all season Â
Unapproved baseball caps, golden cleats, snubbing the media, etc. He's been poking the bear all season with that attention whore Richard Sherman egging him on all season. At least Sherman somewhat entertaining.
Lynch just comes off as a douche. Just shut the fuck up and do your job lime every other football player. Nobody else seems to have a problem doing these interviews but Lynch is awesome because he bucks the system? Come the fuck on. Grow up. He tests the NFL like my 7 year old tests me at dinner. I hope they fine the shit out of him just for being an immature prick.
What rule did he violate to warrant a fine ??
RE: RE: its not just media day, he's been pulling this shit all season Â
Unapproved baseball caps, golden cleats, snubbing the media, etc. He's been poking the bear all season with that attention whore Richard Sherman egging him on all season. At least Sherman somewhat entertaining.
Lynch just comes off as a douche. Just shut the fuck up and do your job lime every other football player. Nobody else seems to have a problem doing these interviews but Lynch is awesome because he bucks the system? Come the fuck on. Grow up. He tests the NFL like my 7 year old tests me at dinner. I hope they fine the shit out of him just for being an immature prick.
What rule did he violate to warrant a fine ??
Under the NFL Media Policy, , the player must simply be “available” to the media after every game. Last season and throughout this season he was violating this policy. So, yeah, he made himself available but acted like a child just because he had to do something he didn't want to do.
But you are missing the point. I’m pretty sure if I violate something in my company’s policy or in the contract I signed, I’d probably get docked, suspended or fired. In fact, I'm pretty sure anyone that acts like that while representing their company would likely get reprimanded. He's classless, immature, and unprofessional. I think it's hilarious that so many people here defend his actions. He's a child.
He showed up as per the contract. There is no issue here. If the media doesn't like his answers they should do a better job asking questions worth answering.
I'll say again...I hope more players follow his lead. It would be great for everyone involved except for the middle men that aren't needed anyway.
nothing admirable about what he's doing. re: blaming his response on the question - he gives the same stupid, childish answer to every question. If someone asks a dumb question, the appropriate response would be to point out the stupidity of the question.
it's part of his responsibilities. he's acting like an ignorant, classless child.
If every player decided to shun the media, the sport would probably be worth a bit less. Fortunately, you always have guys hungry for attention willing to dole out a quote - which makes Lynch's non-response trivial (and the arrogant outcry from some entitled sportswriters all the more silly).
The sportswriters' livelihoods aren't impaired because they can't get the typical cliches out of Lynch - this has actually given them more to write about than most players.
He showed up as per the contract. There is no issue here. If the media doesn't like his answers they should do a better job asking questions worth answering.
I'll say again...I hope more players follow his lead. It would be great for everyone involved except for the middle men that aren't needed anyway.
Wow, I guess the ignorance isn't just with the football players.
It's the media's fault b/c they don't like his answers? Just ask better questions? Seriously. Do you honestly think that Lynch would have suddenly answered the questions genuinely if, lol, the media asked better questions? In fact, don't answer that...I'm going to pretend that you know the answer to that.
I'll say it again...I hope he and more players get fined out the ass for acting immature and classless. Wah...poor Marshawn doesn't like the media so he's going to have a little tantrum every time he's forced to do something that's his responsibility anyway. Maybe he should have a little more appreciation for the "middle men" who are largely responsible for his fame and wealth.
WRONG
He's just bout that action, boss!
And what great message is that?
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such a boss...im not a fan of immature athletes, but at least this has a message
And what great message is that?
I believe that the gentleman is here. So that he will not be fined.
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Yeah, because TC handles the media like Lynch does.
Lynch is an asshole, plain and simple. Without the media involved he would be playing for nothing. The media and fans pay his salary. He should have some damn respect for the people who put money in his pocket.
If you can't see a difference between what Lynch does and what Coughlin does, you're dumber than I thought. Frankly, that's quite a feat.
What a horribly wrong comment combined with a dose of stupidity.
Wrong. I don't care what he does or doesn't do. And I'm not judging whether the league is right or wrong in requiring it. But the league/team is paying him big bucks and this is part of the requirements for employment. Instead of acting like a responsible adult, a man, hes acting like a petulant child. That's an opinion, not a condemnation, because it doesn't affect me one way or another. What I would like to condemn is this God awful use of the term "hate". It has totally no relevance here or in most of the places its used nowadays. If there is one inappropriately used word I would like to condemn, that's it. I guess you could say I HATE it.
It has nothing to do with being on TV and entirely on the media misinterpreting and misquoting Lynch early on in his career while in Buffalo.
His salary and what percentage comes from where is also irrelevant. The reporters aren't the one signing his check, that would be Paul Allen.
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he understood what percentage of his salary is from TV revenues compared to the percentage from selling tickets. Then again, there is no cure for stupid.
It has nothing to do with being on TV and entirely on the media misinterpreting and misquoting Lynch early on in his career while in Buffalo.
His salary and what percentage comes from where is also irrelevant. The reporters aren't the one signing his check, that would be Paul Allen.
Except that the one signing the checks is requiring him to respond to the media questions. And a person with any intelligence at all would understand the reasons why ... such as where the money is being generated.
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he understood what percentage of his salary is from TV revenues compared to the percentage from selling tickets. Then again, there is no cure for stupid.
It has nothing to do with being on TV and entirely on the media misinterpreting and misquoting Lynch early on in his career while in Buffalo.
His salary and what percentage comes from where is also irrelevant. The reporters aren't the one signing his check, that would be Paul Allen.
Except that the one signing the checks is requiring him to respond to the media questions. And a person with any intelligence at all would understand the reasons why ... such as where the money is being generated.
He has been responding to the questions, just not how you or others would like.
t's the league that requires players to speak to the media, not the team.
Why do you care if he gets fined? Are you actually rooting for it?
Fans are so fickle on this player shit. Some are offended that Lynch doesnt really want to talk to the media. Others get pissed that guys like Sherman say what they're really thinking. It's no wonder that so many of these guys come off as automatons talking to the press, spouting content free platitudes. Would want to give someone bulletin board material; that could motivate the opposing team to try to win the Super Bowl!
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In comment 12111535 Marty in Albany said:
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he understood what percentage of his salary is from TV revenues compared to the percentage from selling tickets. Then again, there is no cure for stupid.
It has nothing to do with being on TV and entirely on the media misinterpreting and misquoting Lynch early on in his career while in Buffalo.
His salary and what percentage comes from where is also irrelevant. The reporters aren't the one signing his check, that would be Paul Allen.
Except that the one signing the checks is requiring him to respond to the media questions. And a person with any intelligence at all would understand the reasons why ... such as where the money is being generated.
He has been responding to the questions, just not how you or others would like.
t's the league that requires players to speak to the media, not the team.
Do I really have to explain this? First, the league consists of the teams, and the owners set the rules (good grief).
Second, once again, I don't give a rats ass how he responds, but its obvious he is not responding TO THE QUESTIONS, which I suspect is kinda what the owners had in mind when requiring the interviews. The bottom line is that even though it makes no difference at all to me, its obvious that he is acting in an immature way. That's his choice, and its exactly how a petulant child would act when required to do something they didn't want to do.
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and he should get fined for these juvenile answers.
Why do you care if he gets fined? Are you actually rooting for it?
Fans are so fickle on this player shit. Some are offended that Lynch doesnt really want to talk to the media. Others get pissed that guys like Sherman say what they're really thinking. It's no wonder that so many of these guys come off as automatons talking to the press, spouting content free platitudes. Would want to give someone bulletin board material; that could motivate the opposing team to try to win the Super Bowl!
Deej, just to be clear, I DON'T care, and I suspect that most others here don't either. But we have a thread discussing opinions on what he is doing. My opinion is that its juvenile ... but I really don't care.
Boneman, you have to admit, though, that when grabbing his junk seems to be his special TD celebration, maybe it's hard to give a guy the benefit of the doubt.
Ultimately, as said above, he's a meathead.
I seriously doubt that Paul Allen gives a shit about whether Lynch responds to these questions. Money talks, and I find it hard to believe that the amount the Seahawks were willing to offer Lynch was set with any thought to this issue.
Random typical question ....
Response, "I'm here so I won't get fined"
Question, "So Beastmode, Why are we here? I mean why are any of us here on this planet we call earth?"
Response, "I'm here so I won't get fined"
Question, "Would you get fined if you weren't here?"
Response, "I'm here so I won't get fined"
Question (said really fast), "Dipstick says I'm here so I won't get fined"
Response, "Thanks for asking"
You know, have fun with it a little.
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In comment 12111568 River Mike said:
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In comment 12111556 Stupendamatic said:
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In comment 12111535 Marty in Albany said:
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he understood what percentage of his salary is from TV revenues compared to the percentage from selling tickets. Then again, there is no cure for stupid.
It has nothing to do with being on TV and entirely on the media misinterpreting and misquoting Lynch early on in his career while in Buffalo.
His salary and what percentage comes from where is also irrelevant. The reporters aren't the one signing his check, that would be Paul Allen.
Except that the one signing the checks is requiring him to respond to the media questions. And a person with any intelligence at all would understand the reasons why ... such as where the money is being generated.
He has been responding to the questions, just not how you or others would like.
t's the league that requires players to speak to the media, not the team.
Do I really have to explain this? First, the league consists of the teams, and the owners set the rules (good grief).
Second, once again, I don't give a rats ass how he responds, but its obvious he is not responding TO THE QUESTIONS, which I suspect is kinda what the owners had in mind when requiring the interviews. The bottom line is that even though it makes no difference at all to me, its obvious that he is acting in an immature way. That's his choice, and its exactly how a petulant child would act when required to do something they didn't want to do.
Never accept the premise of the question.
Speaking of children, here's a recent interview with Lynch.
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that'll show em.
Boneman, you have to admit, though, that when grabbing his junk seems to be his special TD celebration, maybe it's hard to give a guy the benefit of the doubt.
Ultimately, as said above, he's a meathead.
Moon - I'm right there with ya regarding him grabbing his junk. He's shown that maturity isn't his strong suit with many of his actions throughout his career.... including this one.
That said, I really don't get the anger this brings out in people. The man doesn't like talking to the media because he feels he's been betrayed by them in the past. I can respect that. I also don't agree with his method of how he's handling interviews but at the same time I also can sympathize with WHY he's handling the interviews the way he is.
When Belichick doesn't feel like talking and gets into an interview and repeatedly answers every question 'We're moving on to *insert next opponent here*.' I don't recall seeing or hearing anyone refer to him as a jerk, immature or whatever. I've seen many athletes do the same thing that Belichick has done and yet when they do it it's 'immaturity' but when Belichick does it it's 'genius'.
But Im also a guy who isnt 100% comfortable with the league suspensions for guys like Rice and Peterson (and the boot Donald Sterling got). In the end I can support it because the NFL is an entertainment business, but Im not completely behind it. Sterling was an easier call to me.
Perhaps he has (not JUST because of his not answering media questions though)... but can't recall too many times when 'immature', 'juvenile' and calls for fines have been thrown out at him.
If you had to answer the same idiotic questions day after day for 15 years, you'd probably come across as a jerk too.
The NFL probably requires these interviews precisely for responses like Lynch's (or Sherman's). They know 90% of the players are going to give PC, by-the-book responses to the questions. It's the other 10% of the responses that creates the headlines and builds the hype though, which is what they're really after.
"We're on to [fill in the blank of a team city]..." over and over is totally not the same thing.
just checking.
But Im also a guy who isnt 100% comfortable with the league suspensions for guys like Rice and Peterson (and the boot Donald Sterling got). In the end I can support it because the NFL is an entertainment business, but Im not completely behind it. Sterling was an easier call to me.
I'm reading this right? Sterling was an easier call for you over Ray Rice beating the shit out of his wife on tape?
"We're on to [fill in the blank of a team city]..." over and over is totally not the same thing.
just checking.
And it isn't because....
He's not answering the media's questions either... which what I thought this was about?
Good for him for pulling the curtain back on this bullshit.
Good for him for pulling the curtain back on this bullshit.
It's part of the job.
He does play a children's game for a living
Fucking duh?
Tut, tut Terps. You're being juvenile and immature. Just ask the classy gentlemen here who project themselves onto these athletes, and imagine how they'd dazzle the media with their wit, charm and colorful berets, if given the opportunity.
Good for him for pulling the curtain back on this bullshit.
He absolutely owes the media nothing. Does he owe his employers (team/league) anything for those millions? The teams realize that media attention is a driver of popularity and revenue. they decided its in the best interest of the league/team to have the players available to the media to help drive this popularity. Right or wrong, its not without reason and its a condition of employment. I don't know about you, but I've often had to suck it up and do things I disagreed with because my employer required it. Once I progressed past childhood I realized that I couldn't only do things I liked or agreed with. I might refuse and be prepared to pay the penalty, but I never engaged in a childish charade to voice my displeasure
Random typical question ....
Response, "I'm here so I won't get fined"
Question, "So Beastmode, Why are we here? I mean why are any of us here on this planet we call earth?"
Response, "I'm here so I won't get fined"
Question, "Would you get fined if you weren't here?"
Response, "I'm here so I won't get fined"
Question (said really fast), "Dipstick says I'm here so I won't get fined"
Response, "Thanks for asking"
You know, have fun with it a little.
That's what I'm talkin' 'bout!
'What if I paid your fine?'
"Can you answer with anything other than 'I'm here so I won't get fined'?"
"Are you sure that this performance won't get you fined?"
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Fantastic.
Tut, tut Terps. You're being juvenile and immature. Just ask the classy gentlemen here who project themselves onto these athletes, and imagine how they'd dazzle the media with their wit, charm and colorful berets, if given the opportunity.
Dazzle the media? No. Man up and do my job, yes. And no, Terps is not being juvenile, he's voicing his opinion as many others here are.
His appearance complied with the letter of the contract, if not the spirit. IMO it was juvenile, but I'm also pretty sure Lynch doesn't care what any of us think, nor should he.
If the league didn't think this was great theatre, they wouldn't keep trotting him out in front of the media to go into his schtick. There are plenty of people (especially on that team) who will talk the media's ear off. They bring him out because his non-answers sell better than most people's answers.
The NFL is like sports talk radio. It's okay if you piss them off, as long as they keep tuning in.
If the league didn't think this was great theatre, they wouldn't keep trotting him out in front of the media to go into his schtick. There are plenty of people (especially on that team) who will talk the media's ear off. They bring him out because his non-answers sell better than most people's answers.
The NFL is like sports talk radio. It's okay if you piss them off, as long as they keep tuning in.
Bingo. That's exactly what this is about to the NFL offices. Not Lynch "owing" the media or fans anything. More theatre = more $$
His appearance complied with the letter of the contract, if not the spirit. IMO it was juvenile, but I'm also pretty sure Lynch doesn't care what any of us think, nor should he.
he doesn't get paid extra to do interviews. In his mind he is paid to play football. He doesn't read through his contract, his agent does. He knows it is written that he be available for interviews, but he doesn't want to do them and has expressed so. He has paid out so much to prove as much. Now you want to still force him to be in front of the mic fine. 4.5 mins of I'm here so I won't get fined. Stop forcing him to do it. What could he possible say that would make everyone go Ohhhh thank goodness we asked Marshawn Lynch if he thought he could run against NE. He said he feels his OL can open wholes for him to run thru. Just stupid they feel the need to force this and I don't blame him for doing what he is doing.
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"We're on to [fill in the blank of a team city]..." over and over is totally not the same thing.
just checking.
And it isn't because....
He's not answering the media's questions either... which what I thought this was about?
yes, but who's making a fuss about the latter? no one last i checked...
I'm reading this right? Sterling was an easier call for you over Ray Rice beating the shit out of his wife on tape?
Yes, though it's fair to raise one's eyebrows at it. In Sterling's case, his partners did not want to be partner with his anymore. But Sterling was never going to be out him money -- either his wife or the league would have sold that team and gotten him his buyout.
With Rice and Peterson, the league just declared that these guys couldnt play anymore and couldnt get paid. Crucially, it's a monopolistic league -- there is not other pro football league in the US. And I heard that the CFL would honor those contracts/suspensions too. A strong argument can be made for letting the market decide this -- if a team wants to sign him, so be it. No one was going to touch Rice. But to me, it's tough to deny someone any opportunity to earn at their profession for off the field stuff. Then you start to have line drawing issues; how come Ray Rice and not the 10s/100s of wife beaters before him (answer: video)? Why is a DUI not as bad as what AP did -- it is more dangerous. etc. How about emotional abuse? Are we going to suspend very, very shitty fathers?
Ultimately I come out okay with what each of those leagues did, but only because (1) lines do need to be drawn, and (2) I view the NFL and NBA as entertainment businesses and not as some high-minded sporting ideal. Rice and AP were going to cost their bosses big money in terms of lost revenue. Sterling was costing his partners money. You work at Wendys and you constantly ruin inventory, you're getting fired; you get paid a lot more in the NFL and commit crimes that cost your bosses millions, you should expect to not work there anymore.
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Give the boy some Skittles
But at this point, they know what Lynch is going to do, and there is nothing truly newsworthy. But they demonstrate they like to agitate and become part of the story. Showing their true colors, really...
Double standard? You mean like the players sign a contract that says they have to be available and the owners don't?
1- Give me 1 business, just 1 company, anywhere in the world where there isnt a difference between the owner and the employees.
2- Even if those are his intentions, how did you make that connection?
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In comment 12111627 TexasGmenFan said:
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"We're on to [fill in the blank of a team city]..." over and over is totally not the same thing.
just checking.
And it isn't because....
He's not answering the media's questions either... which what I thought this was about?
yes, but who's making a fuss about the latter? no one last i checked...
If by 'latter' you mean Belichick, that's kind of my point.
The NFL's media obligations are bullshit, but Lynch met them today by appearing. If the NFL doesn't like what he had to say, they can prepare a script and mandate that he read from it.
If the NFL doesn't like it, then suspend Lynch. Otherwise, shut the fuck up about it. Lynch doesn't owe these halfassed networks a bunch of quotes for their awful stories. ESPN hasn't been good enough to generate quality content for years now...if they need a generic quote to do their jobs, that's on them.
Good for Lynch. Hopefully other players follow his lead and the media are actually forced to put out decent content for a change.
But at this point, they know what Lynch is going to do, and there is nothing truly newsworthy. But they demonstrate they like to agitate and become part of the story. Showing their true colors, really...
Agree.
The same lynch from buffalo right?
This one right?
Best Human ever?
In June 2008, he pleaded guilty to a traffic violation and admitted to driving off after striking a female pedestrian with his car near Buffalo's downtown bar district.
In March 2009, Lynch pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor gun charge in Los Angeles, after police discovered a semiautomatic handgun in a backpack of the trunk of a parked car Lynch was sitting in
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It is in his contract to do these interviews. A contract I am pretty sure he signed. Since it is unlikely anyone forced him to sign it, he willingly agreed to the terms. If he is going to cash the checks, he needs to fulfill his obligations in the agreement too. You don't get to sign the contract and then ignore the clauses you don't like.
His appearance complied with the letter of the contract, if not the spirit. IMO it was juvenile, but I'm also pretty sure Lynch doesn't care what any of us think, nor should he.
he doesn't get paid extra to do interviews. In his mind he is paid to play football. He doesn't read through his contract, his agent does. He knows it is written that he be available for interviews, but he doesn't want to do them and has expressed so. He has paid out so much to prove as much. Now you want to still force him to be in front of the mic fine. 4.5 mins of I'm here so I won't get fined. Stop forcing him to do it. What could he possible say that would make everyone go Ohhhh thank goodness we asked Marshawn Lynch if he thought he could run against NE. He said he feels his OL can open wholes for him to run thru. Just stupid they feel the need to force this and I don't blame him for doing what he is doing.
He doesn't have to get paid "extra" - it's part of his contract. And if he signs the contract, he needs to live up to it. How he views what he gets paid for is also totally irrelevant.
Whether you think the media interviews add anything or not also doesn't matter. He put his name on a contract that obligated him to fulfill certain obligations for payment. He was fined for not fulfilling that, so he showed up to meet the letter of the law if not the spirit of it. How that gets addressed is between employee and employer.
But as to whether he needs to do the interviews or not, it's pretty clear he does.
But as to whether he needs to do the interviews or not, it's pretty clear he does.
And if the Seahawks or the NFL decide to sue him for breach of contract, they can open that "spirit of the rules" can of worms.
Something tells me Seattle's ownership wouldn't be in favor of anything like that.
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that'll show em.
Boneman, you have to admit, though, that when grabbing his junk seems to be his special TD celebration, maybe it's hard to give a guy the benefit of the doubt.
Ultimately, as said above, he's a meathead.
Moon - I'm right there with ya regarding him grabbing his junk. He's shown that maturity isn't his strong suit with many of his actions throughout his career.... including this one.
That said, I really don't get the anger this brings out in people. The man doesn't like talking to the media because he feels he's been betrayed by them in the past. I can respect that. I also don't agree with his method of how he's handling interviews but at the same time I also can sympathize with WHY he's handling the interviews the way he is.
When Belichick doesn't feel like talking and gets into an interview and repeatedly answers every question 'We're moving on to *insert next opponent here*.' I don't recall seeing or hearing anyone refer to him as a jerk, immature or whatever. I've seen many athletes do the same thing that Belichick has done and yet when they do it it's 'immaturity' but when Belichick does it it's 'genius'.
This is fair. When TC blows the media off in NY, I kind of appreciate it because it's just a dumb game, and they are not really good at actual football reporting.
It's just hard to separate the act from your understanding of the guy doing the act. I frankly trust TC and even BB more (the latter less so).
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He is one of best humans you could ever meet. He seriously goes out of his way to help people better themselves and pull themselves out of tough situations. He is a quiet guy that doesn't like doing the interviews. He has said I don't want to do interviews and they keep forcing him to do it. It is really kind of messed up. Why is the NFL so concerned about what Marshawn has to say. There are millions of other players that are looking to have a camera stuck in their face. He isn't one that likes to have that. He is such a good person and seriously extremely funny when you get to talk to him. He came from a hard town and hard times. He pulled himself out of that with his family behind him. He was raised that nothing good comes from talking to the media and he is right. He is not a meat head, he is not so asshole, he isn't any of that. He is a quiet guy that doesn't want to be forced into doing something he doesn't want to do.
The same lynch from buffalo right?
This one right?
Best Human ever?
In June 2008, he pleaded guilty to a traffic violation and admitted to driving off after striking a female pedestrian with his car near Buffalo's downtown bar district.
In March 2009, Lynch pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor gun charge in Los Angeles, after police discovered a semiautomatic handgun in a backpack of the trunk of a parked car Lynch was sitting in
Oh sorry you thought I meant perfect. No in that hit and run case he said he didn't know he hit her. It was raining and he made a plea deal to avoid charges. The drunk lady was dancing in the streets in the rain and I am sure the case was super solid.
Misdemeanor gun charge of a gun in a back pack in the trunk of a car he was riding in. He plead guilty to avoid charges.
Great examples to bring up. How about this... Lynch is also known for his frequent community involvement. In 2013 he was featured in Red Bull's campaign "Athletes Give Back" when he put together a very successful food drive for his home town.
How about the fact he started and gives back to his Fam First Foundation. He works to help kids in that are in and raised in bad areas. He gives so much of his time to go and help people. He gives back so much to his community that he was raised in. Oakland isn't the easiest and I noticed you didn't put anything up about him being shot at during a drive by because they thought he was someone else. That is where he is from. Has he made mistakes yes, but does that make him a bad person? No it doesn't. He would give you his shirt of his back if you needed it. He found a wallet and tracked the guy down and gave it back to him. He could of had a huge Heisman campaign at Cal and he said he won't take pictures unless the other 2 RBs he played with (one being Justin Forsett from Balt.) were in the pic as they were just as good as him. He is so unselfish it is crazy. He is a great teammate and everyone loved him because he would rather talk about how good you were than how good he was. In the NFL with all the egos that is amazing. He still goes to Cal and the first thing he tells kids is they need to really focus on school and get a good education. That do what it takes to make their lives and family situations better. You don't know him though just some report that you probably didn't even read.
Oh sorry you thought I meant perfect. No in that hit and run case he said he didn't know he hit her. It was raining and he made a plea deal to avoid charges. The drunk lady was dancing in the streets in the rain and I am sure the case was super solid.
Misdemeanor gun charge of a gun in a back pack in the trunk of a car he was riding in. He plead guilty to avoid charges.
Great examples to bring up. How about this... Lynch is also known for his frequent community involvement. In 2013 he was featured in Red Bull's campaign "Athletes Give Back" when he put together a very successful food drive for his home town.
How about the fact he started and gives back to his Fam First Foundation. He works to help kids in that are in and raised in bad areas. He gives so much of his time to go and help people. He gives back so much to his community that he was raised in. Oakland isn't the easiest and I noticed you didn't put anything up about him being shot at during a drive by because they thought he was someone else. That is where he is from. Has he made mistakes yes, but does that make him a bad person? No it doesn't. He would give you his shirt of his back if you needed it. He found a wallet and tracked the guy down and gave it back to him. He could of had a huge Heisman campaign at Cal and he said he won't take pictures unless the other 2 RBs he played with (one being Justin Forsett from Balt.) were in the pic as they were just as good as him. He is so unselfish it is crazy. He is a great teammate and everyone loved him because he would rather talk about how good you were than how good he was. In the NFL with all the egos that is amazing. He still goes to Cal and the first thing he tells kids is they need to really focus on school and get a good education. That do what it takes to make their lives and family situations better. You don't know him though just some report that you probably didn't even read.
Why even entertain those that obviously don't like Lynch (or his antics)? I will say I didn't know about his off the field work, good stuff.
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Oh sorry you thought I meant perfect. No in that hit and run case he said he didn't know he hit her. It was raining and he made a plea deal to avoid charges. The drunk lady was dancing in the streets in the rain and I am sure the case was super solid.
Misdemeanor gun charge of a gun in a back pack in the trunk of a car he was riding in. He plead guilty to avoid charges.
Great examples to bring up. How about this... Lynch is also known for his frequent community involvement. In 2013 he was featured in Red Bull's campaign "Athletes Give Back" when he put together a very successful food drive for his home town.
How about the fact he started and gives back to his Fam First Foundation. He works to help kids in that are in and raised in bad areas. He gives so much of his time to go and help people. He gives back so much to his community that he was raised in. Oakland isn't the easiest and I noticed you didn't put anything up about him being shot at during a drive by because they thought he was someone else. That is where he is from. Has he made mistakes yes, but does that make him a bad person? No it doesn't. He would give you his shirt of his back if you needed it. He found a wallet and tracked the guy down and gave it back to him. He could of had a huge Heisman campaign at Cal and he said he won't take pictures unless the other 2 RBs he played with (one being Justin Forsett from Balt.) were in the pic as they were just as good as him. He is so unselfish it is crazy. He is a great teammate and everyone loved him because he would rather talk about how good you were than how good he was. In the NFL with all the egos that is amazing. He still goes to Cal and the first thing he tells kids is they need to really focus on school and get a good education. That do what it takes to make their lives and family situations better. You don't know him though just some report that you probably didn't even read.
Why even entertain those that obviously don't like Lynch (or his antics)? I will say I didn't know about his off the field work, good stuff.
Just upsets me because he is such a good guy. He makes mistakes, but his heart is gold. When you see a kid he helps that feels like they have no future and now they are striving it is amazing. Before anyone talks about what kind of asshole or meathead he is... Maybe they should look at how much they give back to their community and help others. Not saying anyone here gives less, but if you do give as much time and money as him you are hardly an asshole.
And the drunk driving charge?
Buffalo gave him away for a 4th because he was nothing but trouble.
Imagine the local police chief, required as part of his job to talk to the media, standing up in front of a national TV audience and repeatedly answered every question "I'm here so I won't get fired."
Imagine the local police chief, required as part of his job to talk to the media, standing up in front of a national TV audience and repeatedly answered every question "I'm here so I won't get fired."
Not comparable. A RB isn't a cop.
What's the complaint anyway? Lynch showed up and fulfilled his media obligations according to the contract between the NFL and NFLPA.
Personally, I love it. His job is to play football, something he does very well. This week part of his job was to talk to the media, and he did. He spoke very loudly in his own way.
Hell, it's a media windfall because it's so unique. Good for him. It's the man's honest response.
We live in a society today that is nothing but gimmie gimmie gimmie and many no longer believe in working hard for what they earn and ignore their obligations. Many will sew their next door neighbor because they tripped over a rock they failed to remove from their sidewalk and broke a leg. It will get much worse too.
I wonder how Lynch would like it if Seattle simply decided not to pay him but didn't tell him until after the Superbowl.
Beyond that, I think it's wrong that if you speak to the media that you can't say whatever it is that's on your mind, truthfully. That includes thoughts and opinions of the league, including specific individuals and policies, refereeing, including specific individuals and decisions, religion, politics, whatever...
I can think of few things more offensive to me than someone not only being forced to talk but being forced to say specific things.
Regardless of whether athlete interviews are a waste of time or what not, other people's jobs depends on athlete's availability to the media.
The media is what makes the sport so popular and what allows Lynch to get millions of dollars for playing a kid's game anyway.
Acting like this to the media evokes a similar reaction out of me as when athletes are complete dicks to fans. Don't forget that the media and the fans are why you are grossly overpaid in comparison to the actual importance to society of your job. You make millions because you make others millions, and you only make others millions due to fans and the media.
So sack the fuck up and answer the questions.
Regardless of whether athlete interviews are a waste of time or what not, other people's jobs depends on athlete's availability to the media.
The media is what makes the sport so popular and what allows Lynch to get millions of dollars for playing a kid's game anyway.
Acting like this to the media evokes a similar reaction out of me as when athletes are complete dicks to fans. Don't forget that the media and the fans are why you are grossly overpaid in comparison to the actual importance to society of your job. You make millions because you make others millions, and you only make others millions due to fans and the media.
So sack the fuck up and answer the questions.
If someone's job counts on milking mundane quotes out of athletes that aren't trained public speakers so they can fill column inches, that person either needs to get better at their job or find another job. Lynch fulfilled his contractual obligation to be present at media day. It's not enough for you that he spent his time doing something he clearly didn't want to...now you want him to answer questions the way you'd like? If that's the case, why doesn't the NFL just give him a script?
The truth is that there is no need for the mission the media is attempting to accomplish through this relationship with players. The guys that actually break stories (like Glazer) are important and add to the experience. The people writing filler columns stocked with filler quotes in an attempt to "connect" the players to the fans have been made obsolete by social media. If Lynch wants to connect with the fans he can do it directly on his own. The middle man is not needed.
Whenever these athletes boycott the media they may not know it but they are basically saying FU to the fans. Lynch should just tell the hawks and the nfl he's not going to talk to the media at all and just get all the fines over with and save everyone a lot of time.
Like beningo says wait until these angry athletes and coaches that hated the media retire from the game and no one cares about them anymore--- many go running back to the same media outlets they antagonized earlier asking for a job.
The media is what makes the sport so popular and what allows Lynch to get millions of dollars for playing a kid's game anyway.
Can't believe I missed this little morsel of idiocy. The media is what makes the sport popular? Really? Not the athletes on the field but the gnawing little rats writing about them?
The media has too many employees with such low quality that I say good riddance to most of them. Everyone is a "reporter" or "journalist" now. They aren't quite as bad as paparazzi, but its getting there.
The media can go collectively jump off a bridge for all I care.
I didnt watch one minute of these interviews because frankly I dont care what any of them have to say. Does anyone even care about the game?
As for Greg in LI, BBI's resident angriest person alive, uh yes, of course the media is the reason the sport is as popular as it is today. And it's this popularity that affects revenue, and subsequently salary. How could someone even disagree with this? If media outlets didn't cover the NFL, do you think players would get paid as much as they do today?
If there's some sort of contentious issue or misinterpretation with the media, okay, I get being curt and short.
If you have a social anxiety disorder like Ricky Williams did, you shouldn't have to stand up there and get questioned.
But unless I'm missing something (maybe I am), Lynch is just being an asshole to be an asshole. Lame.
What about looking at it the other way? Why can't a reporter write a story without pestering Lynch for a quote?
I sincerely hope other athletes follow Lynch's lead and give reporters the choice of actually doing good work or obsolescence.
What about looking at it the other way? Why can't a reporter write a story without pestering Lynch for a quote?
I sincerely hope other athletes follow Lynch's lead and give reporters the choice of actually doing good work or obsolescence.
What I meant is that the media is the reason for the league's popularity. Lynch is popular because he's an awesome player to watch in the NFL. The NFL is as popular and lucrative as it is because of the media coverage it receives.
Dude makes more money than the vast majority of people will in their entire lives. It's too much to ask of him to not be a dick to reporters? At least give generic, boring answers, without coming off and acting like a total dick to the people who make the league you play in as popular as it is.
I wouldn't want to do it either. You'd never hear a peep out of me if I was in his spotlight.
Rather than the media making the NFL popular, I think it's the other way around. ESPN and its various clones wouldn't exist (at least not in their current forms) were it not for the NFL.
Here's the thing...the media hasn't given Lynch anything. If ESPN and its clones didn't exist I think the games would still be televised and draw ratings massive enough to generate Lynch's contract. But if Lynch and his colleagues weren't out there on Sundays there'd be less reason for the sports media to even exist in its current form.
And now I'm forced to agree with Greg. Great.
Well...if he decides to bitch and whine about getting fined, he can go to the media. But I doubt that he will do either...:)
Rather than the media making the NFL popular, I think it's the other way around. ESPN and its various clones wouldn't exist (at least not in their current forms) were it not for the NFL.
Here's the thing...the media hasn't given Lynch anything. If ESPN and its clones didn't exist I think the games would still be televised and draw ratings massive enough to generate Lynch's contract. But if Lynch and his colleagues weren't out there on Sundays there'd be less reason for the sports media to even exist in its current form.
No offense, but saying sports media wouldn't exist if there weren't any sports is a little...obvious?
And football is a great game, but we both know that all sports leagues increase their value by marketing personalities - fans root for a team, but relate to and like players.
For example, there will always be Giants fans, but would Giant jerseys (#13) be selling like they are if Beckham weren't a) a hyper-talented athlete; and b) hyped daily by the media?
The game will always be the game, but the media amplifies it - to say that some of the NFL's value isn't owed to the media would be incorrect.
And while I agree that it's obvious the sports media wouldn't exist without sports, that doesn't seem to be obvious to many people here. Reading some of these posts you'd get the sense that the media themselves are signing Lynch's game checks.
I don't think the media is as important in the relationship anymore, or even important at all. Take ESPN and their ilk off the air and people will still watch and rewatch, because they are no longer reliant on ESPN to deliver highlights. People are their own reporters now...a phenomenon we see on YouTube, Reddit, and right here on BBI.
A throwaway story from a reporter at the Seattle Post Intelligencer doesn't fit into that dynamic anymore.
Yes, the large networks that televise the games. Theirs are the contracts that are paying the players. The games are the commodity.
In ESPN's example, they pay the players with the money they spend for the right to air Monday Night Football. But Marshawn Lynch isn't seeing money because they called him a beast on Cold Pizza or whatever garbage ESPN is currently passing for programming. And if ESPN decides not to pay for MNF in the future because players won't talk, fine. Someone will be there waiting to offer the NFL double for MNF.
The networks that air the games matter, but they only matter while the games are on. No one is going to stop watching if the networks change...this was proven when CBS lost the NFC games to an upstart FOX network.
The demand for the games themselves is inelastic, the rest doesn't matter.
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sense has fragmented, but the large networks remain key to the NFL not only in terms of distribution, but in terms of profitability. To say there isn't a direct link between those contracts and player compensation is to ignore reality.
Yes, the large networks that televise the games. Theirs are the contracts that are paying the players. The games are the commodity.
In ESPN's example, they pay the players with the money they spend for the right to air Monday Night Football. But Marshawn Lynch isn't seeing money because they called him a beast on Cold Pizza or whatever garbage ESPN is currently passing for programming. And if ESPN decides not to pay for MNF in the future because players won't talk, fine. Someone will be there waiting to offer the NFL double for MNF.
The networks that air the games matter, but they only matter while the games are on. No one is going to stop watching if the networks change...this was proven when CBS lost the NFC games to an upstart FOX network.
The demand for the games themselves is inelastic, the rest doesn't matter.
You need only look at the group of people complaining the most about this to see who needs who more. Based on what I'm seeing, the biggest complaints about Lynch are coming from the sports pages of the dying newspaper industry.
Marshawn Lynch makes his money because broadcast rights for the NFL are worth billions of dollars, which would be the case if the entire sports writing industry collapsed tomorrow. As long as the games are on TV and people are gambling on them or playing fantasy football, the NFL will print money.
I may not agree with the rule, but its still a rule. Marshawn continues to, purposely and knowingly, defy the rules and fly in the face of the NFL. He's bringing all of this shit on himself.
You dont like the rules? Who gives a shit. I dont like all the rules at my job but im not childish enough to continually mock those rules in public. And if i did then i probably wouldnt have that job much longer.
Isnt this the same guy who drove a Lamborghini to a club and roped it off to keep people away? Yeah, sounds like a real grounded person. This guy is an uber douche that never progressed past the age of 8.
I may not agree with the rule, but its still a rule. Marshawn continues to, purposely and knowingly, defy the rules and fly in the face of the NFL. He's bringing all of this shit on himself.
You dont like the rules? Who gives a shit. I dont like all the rules at my job but im not childish enough to continually mock those rules in public. And if i did then i probably wouldnt have that job much longer.
Isnt this the same guy who drove a Lamborghini to a club and roped it off to keep people away? Yeah, sounds like a real grounded person. This guy is an uber douche that never progressed past the age of 8.
What rule did he violate?
Lynch just comes off as a douche. Just shut the fuck up and do your job lime every other football player. Nobody else seems to have a problem doing these interviews but Lynch is awesome because he bucks the system? Come the fuck on. Grow up. He tests the NFL like my 7 year old tests me at dinner. I hope they fine the shit out of him just for being an immature prick.
I do not know if this is the case with Lynch. It may not be. But I do know I wouldn't automatically call someone a dick or an asshole just because they don't like talking with people. Not everyone is going to be the social butterfly, even if it is mandated as part of the job.
I do not know if this is the case with Lynch. It may not be. But I do know I wouldn't automatically call someone a dick or an asshole just because they don't like talking with people. Not everyone is going to be the social butterfly, even if it is mandated as part of the job.
Ummm, no. It's a nice thought but I don't believe for one second that it's "social issues." Someone with social issues isn't going to sit there and repeat the same line (a line mocking the NFL) for every question while also mocking the media. He was being a smart ass. Don't know that's not completely transparent to you. Have you even seen the video?
And sunglasses? Really? Tons of people where sunglasses all the time...day, night, tv, interviews. Ray Lewis wore a dark visor on his helmet...did he have social issues? Well, maybe a bad example lol, but you get the point. Plus, if Lynch had social issues, don't you think that would be known? That's a tough thing to keep secret while being in the spotlight.
Just call it what it is...Lynch is just bucking the system.
Lynch just comes off as a douche. Just shut the fuck up and do your job lime every other football player. Nobody else seems to have a problem doing these interviews but Lynch is awesome because he bucks the system? Come the fuck on. Grow up. He tests the NFL like my 7 year old tests me at dinner. I hope they fine the shit out of him just for being an immature prick.
What rule did he violate to warrant a fine ??
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Unapproved baseball caps, golden cleats, snubbing the media, etc. He's been poking the bear all season with that attention whore Richard Sherman egging him on all season. At least Sherman somewhat entertaining.
Lynch just comes off as a douche. Just shut the fuck up and do your job lime every other football player. Nobody else seems to have a problem doing these interviews but Lynch is awesome because he bucks the system? Come the fuck on. Grow up. He tests the NFL like my 7 year old tests me at dinner. I hope they fine the shit out of him just for being an immature prick.
What rule did he violate to warrant a fine ??
Under the NFL Media Policy, , the player must simply be “available” to the media after every game. Last season and throughout this season he was violating this policy. So, yeah, he made himself available but acted like a child just because he had to do something he didn't want to do.
But you are missing the point. I’m pretty sure if I violate something in my company’s policy or in the contract I signed, I’d probably get docked, suspended or fired. In fact, I'm pretty sure anyone that acts like that while representing their company would likely get reprimanded. He's classless, immature, and unprofessional. I think it's hilarious that so many people here defend his actions. He's a child.
He showed up as per the contract. There is no issue here. If the media doesn't like his answers they should do a better job asking questions worth answering.
I'll say again...I hope more players follow his lead. It would be great for everyone involved except for the middle men that aren't needed anyway.
it's part of his responsibilities. he's acting like an ignorant, classless child.
The sportswriters' livelihoods aren't impaired because they can't get the typical cliches out of Lynch - this has actually given them more to write about than most players.
He showed up as per the contract. There is no issue here. If the media doesn't like his answers they should do a better job asking questions worth answering.
I'll say again...I hope more players follow his lead. It would be great for everyone involved except for the middle men that aren't needed anyway.
Wow, I guess the ignorance isn't just with the football players.
It's the media's fault b/c they don't like his answers? Just ask better questions? Seriously. Do you honestly think that Lynch would have suddenly answered the questions genuinely if, lol, the media asked better questions? In fact, don't answer that...I'm going to pretend that you know the answer to that.
I'll say it again...I hope he and more players get fined out the ass for acting immature and classless. Wah...poor Marshawn doesn't like the media so he's going to have a little tantrum every time he's forced to do something that's his responsibility anyway. Maybe he should have a little more appreciation for the "middle men" who are largely responsible for his fame and wealth.