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Worst Giant You've Ever Seen Play

MichiganNYGFan : 1/28/2015 12:56 pm
Who is the worst Giant you've ever seen play? Dumb penalties, getting burned always, just sucking. Now I'm far from any type of football guru, but one player that really stood out to me as the worst I've seen was 2009 CC Brown. I just remembered him constantly getting burned, or a crucial personal foul that cost us dearly. I remember him being ultra bad against the Lions that year. And when the Panthers blew us out in the final game at Giants Stadium. Vikings too. Now I've only been a Giants fan since 2005 when I was 12 so maybe there's a guy in the 90s that blew harder but I'll just open up the discussion with that. Fuck CC Brown.
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RE: and right on cue after Cippy's post  
crick n NC : 1/28/2015 3:06 pm : link
Phillips was a third round draft choice that started three years and got the giants 103 tackles and 1.5 sacks. Taken before Jason Taylor. There isn't any "didn't quite work out" with Phillips, he was terrible.



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crick n NC : 2:18 pm : link : reply
Ryan Phillips, taken before Jason Taylor.



Ryan Phillips was a DE conversion who didn't quite work out. He was a somewhat below average starting LB on a good defense. How this translates to "worst Giant ever" is beyond me.
Danny Kannel might not be the worst Giant ever  
David in LA : 1/28/2015 3:06 pm : link
but he was definitely the worst teammate.
talk about dissapointments and  
idiotsavant : 1/28/2015 3:07 pm : link
getting duped into injured players from other NCF east teams-

how about former redskins 1st rounder-

''New York Giants[edit]
In April 2006, Arrington agreed to a seven-year, $49 million contract with the New York Giants. He was injured in week 7 against the Dallas Cowboys and missed the rest of the season with a ruptured Achilles tendon. On February 12, 2007, he was released by the New York Giants.''

(basically seemed very gimpy, unless my memory is shot, prior to the heel tear)
Aikman was doing a Giants game  
crick n NC : 1/28/2015 3:10 pm : link
the year Arrington signed. I remember Aikman saying that Arrington just didn't have the same explosiveness he had in Washington. Arrington was a JAG when he signed with the Giants, explosiveness was his game.
Phillip Dillard?  
idiotsavant : 1/28/2015 3:12 pm : link
as long as we are on linebackers
The sad thing about Arrington  
David in LA : 1/28/2015 3:13 pm : link
is that he looked like he was starting to shake the rust off against Dallas.
Yes, I get that he was taken before Jason Taylor  
Greg from LI : 1/28/2015 3:16 pm : link
That fact alone doesn't make him "the worst Giant ever". Neither does the fact that he wasn't that good.
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Del Shofner : 1/28/2015 3:19 pm : link
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Dorsey Levens was pretty fucking bad the year he was here.



Dorsey Levens was impressive against the Eagles.



LOL, what was the back story on that? I know it has been a BBI meme forever but I don't know where it originated or who said it.



It was the headline on the BBI home page after we played the Eagles, and then for whatever reason that page "froze" and was up there for six weeks or something. It became comical considering that Levens was not impressive overall.



Haha. That's good.

I don't remember him being impressive as a Giant.. ever.


October 19, 2003, we lost to the Eagles 14-10 - Levens had 16 carries for 64 yards, with a long of 17. When we lost to them again in November, Levens had 4 carries for 1 yard. I think "Dorsey Levens Was Impressive Against the Eagles" was still the BBI homepage headline at that time.
Greg's posting, but no mention of Hosley?  
giants#1 : 1/28/2015 3:20 pm : link
every bit as bad as Dave Thomas and CC Brown, yet he's managed to hang around far longer...

Herzlich might be one of the worst LBs I've ever seen as well. Not sure he's seen a play action he hasn't bitten on.

Junkin and Charlie Brown are definitely top 10 though.
Greg  
crick n NC : 1/28/2015 3:25 pm : link
Was Dave Thomas one of the worst Giants ever?
Ryan Phillips  
ArtVandelay : 1/28/2015 3:28 pm : link
I thought Widmer was worse than Phillips. Huge upgrade when we got Michael Barrow.
Clint Sintim  
jlukes : 1/28/2015 3:30 pm : link
remember those preseason sacks he had?
hey man, you leave my man Clint alone  
Greg from LI : 1/28/2015 3:32 pm : link
Wasn't his fault they tried forcing the square peg into a round hole.

Who brought up Dave Thomas? Not me. He wasn't good, but I wouldn't put him in the running for worst ever.
worst ever  
giants#1 : 1/28/2015 3:37 pm : link
Definitely need some qualifiers attached to the question regarding playing time, otherwise it's really a list full of Seawrights.

That said, Junkin failed on 9% of his plays in blue (7 kicks, 4 punts)!

Charlie Brown might've been even worst in his 1 start...
Tommy fuckin Maddox  
WeatherMan : 1/28/2015 3:46 pm : link
3 INTs in relief of Brown against the Eagles. I was there that horrid day.
Any votes for Curtis Deloatch?  
bLiTz 2k : 1/28/2015 4:04 pm : link
..how did he make the team!!
...  
26.2 : 1/28/2015 4:18 pm : link
I haven't read all of these and I'm sure he's been mentioned, but CC Brown is def one of the worst.
God, what bad memories, but  
Burt in Alameda : 1/28/2015 4:38 pm : link
Derek Brown (Chris Collingsworth went right after him)
Tommy Maddox
Thomas Lewis (Lewis Thomas (?))
Rocky Thompson

Finally, I can't remember the name of the awful first draft choice (5th overall) from Oklahoma-- the right defensive end who was blind in one eye
CC Brown certainly did suck, but atleast he could hit hard  
ChemDawg1990 : 1/28/2015 4:49 pm : link
He had a handful of big hits. Horrible horrible safety that was put in deep coverage WAYYY too often.

Myers from 2013 was worse IMO at TE
RE: Brian Mitchell may not have been the worst  
Johnny5 : 1/28/2015 4:50 pm : link
In comment 12113235 Greg from LI said:
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But he was definitely my most hated Giant. It burned my ass just to see him wear the uniform.

Not only that, we cut a decent and relatively inexpensive returner for him... dammit I can't remember his name. I was so pissed when they cut him for Mitchell and the fork sticking out of his back.
Johny5  
ChemDawg1990 : 1/28/2015 4:52 pm : link
Think they cut Delvin Joyce for him? That little midget scatback
Tommy Maddox  
Arkbach : 1/28/2015 4:55 pm : link
the absolute worse performance by a Giant player in my forty-years watching this team.

Honorable mention to Bobby Duhon for the old timers. I swear he fumbled every punt return.
Bob Timberlake ranks up there  
Big Blue '56 : 1/28/2015 4:58 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: Dave Brown never had a chance  
Bleedin Blue : 1/28/2015 4:59 pm : link
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Chris Calloway was his supposed #1 receiver. His other receivers included the likes of Thomas Lewis, Lawrence Dawsey, Arthur Marshall and Omar Douglas. His tight ende were Howard Cross and Aaron Pierce. His running backs were Rodney Hampton's expanding waistline, the perpetually bored Ty Wheatley and Keith Elias. His OL included such stalwarts as the original Human False Start Scott Gragg and Greg Bishop.

The guy might never have been much of a QB, but he had absolutely nothing to work with either.



Ha Ha Ha! "The Human False Start Scott Gragg" he was my second thought after CC Brown. I can't tell you how many times I wanted to kick my TV when that fucking village idiot Gragg would go offsides!!


Maybe I'm wrong, but wasn't Gragg a solid O-lineman who went on to have some very good years in SF?


Sonic, yes he went on to have a decent career with SF and was on the field for that debacle against them, but he totally sucked while with us! I would see a SF game and bitch why he couldn't be like that with us!!!
RE: Johny5  
Johnny5 : 1/28/2015 5:00 pm : link
In comment 12113529 ChemDawg1990 said:
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Think they cut Delvin Joyce for him? That little midget scatback

Hah! yep, that's the one, good memory!
Someone who didn't suck...  
Johnny5 : 1/28/2015 5:04 pm : link
... but I'm still pissed at?

I still have extreme slow motion, nightmarish visions of Marcellus Rivers and his cement shoes being passed by Westbrook on his way to an 84 yard punt return back breaking game winning TD.

Dammit.
Dave  
Arcanum : 1/28/2015 5:18 pm : link
Thomas, by far. He might be the worse DB to ever play the game
He isn't the worst I've ever seen play  
pjcas18 : 1/28/2015 5:22 pm : link
but the Michael Cox love amazes me, other than the name jokes.

He is the only player I've seen return a kick, after fielding it cleanly, and not make the 10 yard line.

Yet people were clamoring for him to return kicks because he had one decent return.
My vote is for  
Emil : 1/28/2015 5:22 pm : link
C.C. Brown
RE: RE: Brian Mitchell may not have been the worst  
David in LA : 1/28/2015 5:35 pm : link
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But he was definitely my most hated Giant. It burned my ass just to see him wear the uniform.


Not only that, we cut a decent and relatively inexpensive returner for him... dammit I can't remember his name. I was so pissed when they cut him for Mitchell and the fork sticking out of his back.


My memory could be faulty here, was it Bashir Levingston?
RE: Trey Junkin...  
GeofromNJ : 1/28/2015 5:38 pm : link
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He was only a Giant for one game in his 19 year NFL career. In that game (2003 Bungle by the Bay playoff game), he only had one job to do and he screwed it up at the worst possible moment.

I like your choice, Bama. I was going to suggest Gus Coppens who played tackle in 1979 and got run over by just about everybody. Not really his fault. He was drafted in the 12th round by the Rams, released, and in desperation the Giants picked him up. If you think the O line the last two years have been godawful, you should have seen the 1979 version.
RE: Greg's posting, but no mention of Hosley?  
MichiganNYGFan : 1/28/2015 6:11 pm : link
In comment 12113359 giants#1 said:
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every bit as bad as Dave Thomas and CC Brown, yet he's managed to hang around far longer...

Herzlich might be one of the worst LBs I've ever seen as well. Not sure he's seen a play action he hasn't bitten on.

Junkin and Charlie Brown are definitely top 10 though.


I wanted to mention hosley but thought it a little too soon to judge him completely. Not saying he's going to go from shit to good, more like shit to poop
Charles Brown, CC Brown, Ian Allen  
Chef : 1/28/2015 6:24 pm : link
Dave Brown was a bad QB on a horrible teams... He is not a top of this list
rough thread to read  
Osix_ : 1/28/2015 6:31 pm : link
I was originally gonna say CC Brown. The guy made Will Demps look like Ed Reed.

But Ian Allen is probably a better choice. Soooo bad.

And Matt Dodger is definitely the best choice. A punter shouldn't have that kind of negative affect on a team. I should have to hold my breath every time the long snapper snaps the ball to you.

Brandon Myers was embarrassingly bad too. He put up the emptiest stats I've ever seen from any Giants player ever. And his stats weren't even that good lol.
he doesn't even  
Osix_ : 1/28/2015 6:32 pm : link
deserve to have his name spelled right.
I haven't hated a Giants player as much as Brandon Myers in a while.  
arcarsenal : 1/28/2015 6:38 pm : link
I really didn't like Dodge but I almost just felt bad for Dodge because he was such a disaster. I just couldn't stand Myers. What a fucking loser.

Seeing Dave Thomas mentioned a few times surprises me. The guy wasn't that good but he was a starting CB on a team that went to the Super Bowl and had a top 5 defense. He was slow as fucking molasses but he held up reasonably well in 2000 all things considered. We have seen WAY worse than that at DB over the last couple of decades. I'd argue we've undoubtedly seen worse in the last 5 years on more than one occasion.
Frank Ferrara, the original High Motor White Guy  
Chef : 1/28/2015 6:55 pm : link
doe not deserve to be on this list.. Neither does Frank Walker... you can do far worse...

Matt Doge, as another said... I cant recall another punter that had as much of an effect on a games as his horrid performances did...
Wow where to start  
Zebra3 : 1/28/2015 7:24 pm : link
Earnest Gray,Leon Perry,Scott Brunner,
Gary Jeter,mark Haynes,Arron Pierce, Derrick Brown
Dave Brown Danny Kanell Thomas Lewis all the Reeves
New Jersey Broncos Carlton Grey Cory Widmer,Carlton Baily
Keith Elias. Lurch Greg bishop Ian Allen Herschel walker,
Herman Moore Dave Thomas, Ron Dayne
I can go on all day.
Duke Calhoun  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/28/2015 7:35 pm : link
I noticed him twice during the entire 2010 season. Both plays were catastrophic special-teams failures, with Duke front-and-center.
Zebra3: of all the ridiculous names on your list...  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/28/2015 7:37 pm : link
...Mark Haynes sticks out as the most absurd. What made him a bad Giant? His contract holdout?
In 2005, the Giants won the NFC East.  
Vin_Cuccs : 1/28/2015 7:50 pm : link
Antonio Pierce was having a great year but went down with an injury.

Nick Greisen also was injured that game.

Kevin Lewis, undrafted MLB from Duke stepped in and did not belong on the field.
RE: Zebra3: of all the ridiculous names on your list...  
Zebra3 : 1/28/2015 8:02 pm : link
In comment 12113705 Big Blue Blogger said:
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...Mark Haynes sticks out as the most absurd. What made him a bad Giant? His contract holdout?

He quit on the team and plays more than a few times.
zebra3: Why don't you add LT, Simms and Manning while you're at it?  
Jim in Fairfax : 1/28/2015 8:05 pm : link
My pick is John Hicks - " The Human Holding Penalty"
Joni's Seawright  
Zebra3 : 1/28/2015 8:11 pm : link
The human wall.
I see your Hicks with Brad Benson and Luke Pettigrout
Jonus  
Zebra3 : 1/28/2015 8:12 pm : link
Dammed iPhone
Rocky Thompson with three career touchdowns  
Steve in South Jersey : 1/28/2015 8:30 pm : link
and two of those were kick returns. Not what you want from a 1st round draft choice.

Runner Up: Cedric Jones

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Jayron Hosley  
eli4life : 1/28/2015 8:45 pm : link
I cringe every time I see him on the field
Cedric Jones  
RetroJint : 1/28/2015 9:16 pm : link
was a starting DE & a good one for an NFC Chsmpion. He did not give value as the sixth pick in a draft that had Marvin Harrison going 17. But no way he belongs on this list. There are some good players listed-Gary Jeter? C'mon.
Corey Raymond  
Patrick : 1/28/2015 9:24 pm : link
Maybe not the worst but my I've never had less confidence in a player who didn't play QB.

I cringed every time I saw him on the field. I remember being elated when he was picked early in the expansion draft by Jacksonville (or Carolina?)
RE: Wow where to start  
GeofromNJ : 1/28/2015 10:14 pm : link
In comment 12113686 Zebra3 said:
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Earnest Gray,Leon Perry,Scott Brunner,
Gary Jeter,mark Haynes,Arron Pierce, Derrick Brown
Dave Brown Danny Kanell Thomas Lewis all the Reeves
New Jersey Broncos Carlton Grey Cory Widmer,Carlton Baily
Keith Elias. Lurch Greg bishop Ian Allen Herschel walker,
Herman Moore Dave Thomas, Ron Dayne
I can go on all day.

Earnest Gray - are you kidding? He caught 10 touchdown passes in 1980, and 27 in six years with the Giants. He also had 78 receptions in 1983. He was good receiver, not great, but good. Simms once said of Gray, "Nobody gets open like Earnest."
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