Again, just a rumor, do not shoot the messenger.
From the same source as before. He has been right in the past, and he has also been wrong in the past.
This rumor isn't very interesting or breaking news but....
The team is working on an extension for Manning. Initial numbers have been exchanged. From what I was told, they really liked the way he meshed with McAdoo and the way he rebounded from his poor season. The team feels like they can win with Manning and that his interceptions will stay down and his completion percentage will continue to go up within the new offense. Apparently, after some initial hesitation, Manning is quite happy in the McAdoo offense as well.
No info on length, money or guarantees yet. The team does not want him to go into his contract year without a new deal in place.
If I get any other info over the next few weeks, I will gladly post but there is nothing new upcoming.
Again, this is just a rumor.
I will gladly delete this post if this post is not received well.
No reason for contract drama here.
It's just a question of extension structure.
The next biggest domino will be JPP. I strongly beleive he is staying either way, but if he is tagged that will be roughly 14 mill against the gap vs. approximately 3-5 mill on a long term deal that is cap friendly structured year 1.
If Reese works out these 2 favorably, the Giants are looking at quite a bit of cap room flexibility for solidifying the roster this offseason.
Build the OL. Hope Cruz heals. Hope the young develop: Donnell, Robinson, Randle, Washington, etc.
I honestly believe this offense can be top five if healthy AND if we get that key offensive lineman to anchor along with Schwarz in the middle. Our interior OL was horrible but a veteran presence can really help improve our run game and hence our passing game.
The music is rough.
Eli lights it up - ( New Window )
Smart move. Now they need to find a few OL who don't suck
That's a ridiculous contract. About $20MM too high, especially given his age - maybe $30MM+ too high. The Giants have paid him very well for 8 games of excellent performance. It's time for him to give some back if he wants that third ring.
Not when they have to write off contracts like Beason's and Kiwanuka's and still reload the roster after a few bad drafts. It's time for Eli to scale it back. Take a page out of Brady's playbook, even if it means we have to deflate the footballs.
Yup enjoy those shit sandwiches boys.
Best QB this franchise ever had. 2 superbowls and take hits that
Knock out other QBs and still give this team his all.
Mouth breathers.
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They want. You cap guys understand that...right.
Not when they have to write off contracts like Beason's and Kiwanuka's and still reload the roster after a few bad drafts. It's time for Eli to scale it back. Take a page out of Brady's playbook, even if it means we have to deflate the footballs.
Don't think Abbey makes what Toms wife does.
Eli to Reese: I got my ass handed to me the last two years because of your incompetence. Fuck you pay me,
Eli ended up with the second best year of his entire career despite needing almost half a season for the team (and himself) to really start grasping the new offense. He also did it with less of a roster than they've had almost every year prior. This system is an improvement over the old one and will likely be even better once they solidify the OL and add a couple more skill players to the passing game.
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FA RT (and I use the term advisedly) that the Giants will be able to afford is OT Charles Brown, so you'll be lucky to get even a full year's salary." ...Well that's what I'd say to Eli.
Eli to Reese: I got my ass handed to me the last two years because of your incompetence. Fuck you pay me,
Ha ha.
I would set the over-under on a contract at...
--A five year extension, so it would be a six year contract (including 2015 and running through 2020).
--The total value for the six years: $115-120M (so the 5 year extension would be roughly $100M).
--Guaranteed money: $42-45M.
--Compensation over first 3 years: $57-63M.
--2015 Salary Cap figure: roughly $8M.
Anything more than that, Eli got a great deal. Anything less than that, the Giants got a bargain.
THIS ^^^^
-The true great QB's (Peyton, Brees, Rodgers etc)
-The very, very good (Eli, Ben etc)
-Young high picks who may or may not be good
-retreads
Be happy we have a very good "tier 2" QB.
-The true great QB's (Peyton, Brees, Rodgers etc)
-The very, very good (Eli, Ben etc)
-Young high picks who may or may not be good
-retreads
Be happy we have a very good "tier 2" QB.
May I amend a little? "Be happy we have a very good "tier 2" WB and a Tier 1 clutch, "championship on the line" QB.
We expect so much from a #1 drafted(SD) QB..But exactly how many SBs do we expect from a #1? I think 2 SB wins is a plentiful return..I would guess with a better D, we would hve had more..And yes, there was Plax
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Eli is far from perfect and I think if he struggled again this past season MANY of us would have advocated moving on but he bounced back and I'll always be a massive Eli Manning fan regardless of what the future brings. 2 SB's, class act from day one. Borderline HOFer. The league basically has 4 tiers-
-The true great QB's (Peyton, Brees, Rodgers etc)
-The very, very good (Eli, Ben etc)
-Young high picks who may or may not be good
-retreads
Be happy we have a very good "tier 2" QB.
May I amend a little? "Be happy we have a very good "tier 2" WB and a Tier 1 clutch, "championship on the line" QB.
We expect so much from a #1 drafted(SD) QB..But exactly how many SBs do we expect from a #1? I think 2 SB wins is a plentiful return..I would guess with a better D, we would hve had more..And yes, there was Plax
Yeah BB56, 2008 still galls me as "the one that got away". Still the best team of the Coughlin era in my book. They could put up 200 yards on the ground against almost anybody. F'ing Burress.
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Eli is far from perfect and I think if he struggled again this past season MANY of us would have advocated moving on but he bounced back and I'll always be a massive Eli Manning fan regardless of what the future brings. 2 SB's, class act from day one. Borderline HOFer. The league basically has 4 tiers-
-The true great QB's (Peyton, Brees, Rodgers etc)
-The very, very good (Eli, Ben etc)
-Young high picks who may or may not be good
-retreads
Be happy we have a very good "tier 2" QB.
May I amend a little? "Be happy we have a very good "tier 2" WB and a Tier 1 clutch, "championship on the line" QB.
We expect so much from a #1 drafted(SD) QB..But exactly how many SBs do we expect from a #1? I think 2 SB wins is a plentiful return..I would guess with a better D, we would hve had more..And yes, there was Plax
Just to clarify (and I knew "tier 2" would rankle some). I merely meant he's not a first ballot QB like Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers. Not really looking to argue Brees (as is often done on BBI) inflated numbers or not he's gonna get in. I'm more than happy to have Eli Manning for the next 2-3 seasons.
We'll see how he looks physically after that but week after week we see teams come in with absolute turds at QB, rotating QB's, wasting high picks on guys who end up absolutely sucking. If Eli Manning can "merely" be as good as he was this past year we won't have to worry about the position for a while and for that I am thankful. A team sucks at OT or at LB, it's not "that hard" to find someone good enough to be a starter on a championship contender. QB is a totally different story.
If we had his brother the mouth breathers in here would be screaming he's not clutch enough in the big moment. If his name was jones or smith I wonder how the fan base would treat him.
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In comment 12114051 DanMetroMan said:
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Eli is far from perfect and I think if he struggled again this past season MANY of us would have advocated moving on but he bounced back and I'll always be a massive Eli Manning fan regardless of what the future brings. 2 SB's, class act from day one. Borderline HOFer. The league basically has 4 tiers-
-The true great QB's (Peyton, Brees, Rodgers etc)
-The very, very good (Eli, Ben etc)
-Young high picks who may or may not be good
-retreads
Be happy we have a very good "tier 2" QB.
May I amend a little? "Be happy we have a very good "tier 2" WB and a Tier 1 clutch, "championship on the line" QB.
We expect so much from a #1 drafted(SD) QB..But exactly how many SBs do we expect from a #1? I think 2 SB wins is a plentiful return..I would guess with a better D, we would hve had more..And yes, there was Plax
Just to clarify (and I knew "tier 2" would rankle some). I merely meant he's not a first ballot QB like Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers. Not really looking to argue Brees (as is often done on BBI) inflated numbers or not he's gonna get in. I'm more than happy to have Eli Manning for the next 2-3 seasons.
We'll see how he looks physically after that but week after week we see teams come in with absolute turds at QB, rotating QB's, wasting high picks on guys who end up absolutely sucking. If Eli Manning can "merely" be as good as he was this past year we won't have to worry about the position for a while and for that I am thankful. A team sucks at OT or at LB, it's not "that hard" to find someone good enough to be a starter on a championship contender. QB is a totally different story.
No rankling..:)
Agree, but c'est la vie..Namath, Frazier, Mantle as well..
anyone really looking forward to that stretch again?
Yup.
He's going to get paid. At his age, though, I hope it's structured so that if his talent declines, he's not overpaid and difficult to jettison.
It's just that a mutually beneficial extension for Eli is the optimum solution--if they can agree on the money.
Mara claims we won't be as active this FA as last. While the quantity of FA signed may not be as high we may have the room one or two bigger fish (along with resigning JPP). Franklin/Iupati/Boling and/or Randall Cobb come to mind.