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BrettNYG10 : 1/29/2015 7:44 am
Fuck off, pj.

#lgr
Hoping Hudson  
Stufftherun : 1/29/2015 8:10 am : link
doesn't bulldoze you out of the faceoff circle again.

Another good test tonight against a very good goaltender.
Should have let hudson start the thread.  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 8:28 am : link
Pussy.
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BrettNYG10 : 1/29/2015 8:30 am : link
hudson choked on a fucking dick. 4-1 loss to an ACTUAL rival. If it was a team we didn't care about like the Pens, then I'd understand.

BTW, Washington won 4-0 last night against Pittsburgh. We have three games in hand on both, but we're one point behind Washington, four behind Pitt.
That game got ugly in the 3rd.  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 8:35 am : link
Ehrhoff went to hit Ovechkin and Ovechkin basically ragdolled him with one arm and then somehow got called for a penalty. Couple of fights.. Brouwer was going at it with Perron and then Letang.. Perron jumped on a pile and I'm pretty sure he was punching Letang instead of Brouwer and didn't know it.

I think the Pens lose in the 1st rd this year. I am not sold on that team at all.

I also have to wonder if Trotz is going to wear Holtby out. He's been riding him hard all year. It might come back to bite them in the spring.
I was going to start this  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2015 8:37 am : link
thread yesterday.

Habs are living on borrowed time. They beat the Stars Tuesday night in MTL, they were

outshot: 42 - 26
out hit: 21 - 19
lost giveaways: 13 - 7
lost takeaways: 8 - 4
lost on PIM: 21 - 8 (they had 21 PIMS to 8 for DAL)

they won the only place it counted - the scoreboard.

Obviously I'll take it, but you can't sustain winning that way. your goalie isn't going to stand on his head night in night out and a team like the Rangers you won't get away with that.

This is the last regular season meeting between the two teams this year, each winning 1 at home so far.

Hank in goal tonight.  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 8:44 am : link
Not sure about Price.
RE: That game got ugly in the 3rd.  
BrettNYG10 : 1/29/2015 8:47 am : link
In comment 12114058 arcarsenal said:
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Ehrhoff went to hit Ovechkin and Ovechkin basically ragdolled him with one arm and then somehow got called for a penalty. Couple of fights.. Brouwer was going at it with Perron and then Letang.. Perron jumped on a pile and I'm pretty sure he was punching Letang instead of Brouwer and didn't know it.

I think the Pens lose in the 1st rd this year. I am not sold on that team at all.

I also have to wonder if Trotz is going to wear Holtby out. He's been riding him hard all year. It might come back to bite them in the spring.


Thanks - I didn't watch. Agreed on Holtby.
you pass the puck  
B in ALB : 1/29/2015 8:50 am : link
To that used tampon hudson and STILL feel it's OK to start this one? Pffft. You better not shit the bed again. BBI ain't changing your rubber sheets this time.
RE: you pass the puck  
BrettNYG10 : 1/29/2015 8:51 am : link
In comment 12114088 B in ALB said:
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To that used tampon hudson and STILL feel it's OK to start this one? Pffft. You better not shit the bed again. BBI ain't changing your rubber sheets this time.


Hey, when Gretzky wants the puck, you pass it.

BTW, I got your book on Monday. You owe me $20.
RE: That game got ugly in the 3rd.  
pganut : 1/29/2015 8:52 am : link
In comment 12114058 arcarsenal said:
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Ehrhoff went to hit Ovechkin and Ovechkin basically ragdolled him with one arm and then somehow got called for a penalty. Couple of fights.. Brouwer was going at it with Perron and then Letang.. Perron jumped on a pile and I'm pretty sure he was punching Letang instead of Brouwer and didn't know it.


I watched the game as well...that Perron piling on and throwing blows was hilarious; I think you're right that he was blindly punching. Maybe he just could no longer stand McGuire's insistence to keep saying "Christopher Letang". Related, that Ovechkin blast from the sweet Green pass was a frickin' laser.
RE: RE: you pass the puck  
B in ALB : 1/29/2015 8:53 am : link
In comment 12114090 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 12114088 B in ALB said:


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To that used tampon hudson and STILL feel it's OK to start this one? Pffft. You better not shit the bed again. BBI ain't changing your rubber sheets this time.



Hey, when Gretzky wants the puck, you pass it.

BTW, I got your book on Monday. You owe me $20.


Sorry there weren't more pictures and pop up pages.

That book is the shit. Reading "Red Sparrow" now- almost finished - also highly recommended.
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BrettNYG10 : 1/29/2015 8:54 am : link
I haven't started yet. I'm in the middle of an 800 page book right now, so I probably won't start until the weekend.

I rarely read fiction - other than the occasional Bible verse - so I'm looking forward to it.
Brett, you magnificent bastard - I read your BOOK!  
Greg from LI : 1/29/2015 8:55 am : link
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I had to Bing that reference.  
BrettNYG10 : 1/29/2015 8:56 am : link
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RE: RE: That game got ugly in the 3rd.  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 8:57 am : link
In comment 12114094 pganut said:
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In comment 12114058 arcarsenal said:


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Ehrhoff went to hit Ovechkin and Ovechkin basically ragdolled him with one arm and then somehow got called for a penalty. Couple of fights.. Brouwer was going at it with Perron and then Letang.. Perron jumped on a pile and I'm pretty sure he was punching Letang instead of Brouwer and didn't know it.



I watched the game as well...that Perron piling on and throwing blows was hilarious; I think you're right that he was blindly punching. Maybe he just could no longer stand McGuire's insistence to keep saying "Christopher Letang". Related, that Ovechkin blast from the sweet Green pass was a frickin' laser.


Yep. Ovi is on another level right now. I don't think anyone is playing as well as he is. Just a complete 1 man wrecking machine.
You had to Bing that?  
Greg from LI : 1/29/2015 9:00 am : link
Does your mom know you're using the computer all by yourself?
Need a much better effort than that  
Gingerbeardman : 1/29/2015 9:09 am : link
Shitfest Tuesday night. Logged in to start the game thread but Brett did his hair and make-up bright and early and beat me too the punch


Lets fucking go, boys
RE: You had to Bing that?  
BrettNYG10 : 1/29/2015 9:14 am : link
In comment 12114112 Greg from LI said:
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Does your mom know you're using the computer all by yourself?


No.

Please don't tell her.
I dont know if last night was about Pittsburgh  
MetsAreBack : 1/29/2015 10:11 am : link
being atrociously bad... or if Trotz has what was a really bad Capitals team a year ago playing at a really high level now. I do know the night before Washington lost in regulation to CBJ's backup goalie, while Pittsburgh beat a pretty good Winnipeg team. So maybe that's just hockey and it was one night.

But Pittsburgh's performance within the Metro division this year against the other relevant playoff contenders at this point is laughable. They're flat out getting their shit pushed in on a regular basis.
Well, we're not playing NYI, BOS or TB tonight  
NYerInMA : 1/29/2015 10:23 am : link
So I like our chances.
LOL  
MetsAreBack : 1/29/2015 10:32 am : link
Well Price has been a bitch to solve the past several regular seasons too though.
Per the morning skate  
NYerInMA : 1/29/2015 10:38 am : link
It looks like J. Moore is back in for Hunwick, and Miller will sit for Stempniak. /facepalm
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arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 10:41 am : link
Yep, that was Zipay's assumption based on practice yesterday.

Don't worry, guys.. the Habs will just feel the presence of #15 out there.

Yup, Glass'd.
I feel bad saying this  
Greg from LI : 1/29/2015 10:45 am : link
But I truly hope Glass gets a season-ending injury. It's the only way to keep him out of the lineup, apparently
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BrettNYG10 : 1/29/2015 10:50 am : link
I truly don't get Glass.

There are a number of moves I disagree with, but understand. I have no idea on Glass.

I could have understood a two-way, vet minimum deal.

We got a great haul on Dorsett, saved some cap space... And then allocate that space to fucking Tanner Glass. He does nothing well. He might be the worst hockey player in the league (excluding guys like John Scott, who are glorified fighters and not real players).
RE: I feel bad saying this  
NYerInMA : 1/29/2015 10:54 am : link
In comment 12114347 Greg from LI said:
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But I truly hope Glass gets a season-ending injury. It's the only way to keep him out of the lineup, apparently


I know, I'm in the same boat. I'm sure he's a nice guy and I don't wish him any ill will personally, but it's getting to be ridiculous.
I don't get Glass either  
jv : 1/29/2015 10:54 am : link
He has zero hockey ability. He racks up hits? Cool! You know what? You don't need to hit people when you have the puck. When Glass is on the ice the Rangers don't hold the puck.

As much of a shitbag Carcillo is, he showed 10x the hockey ability and costs half as much. Plenty of other 4th line grinders out there that have some hands that cost wayyy less than $1.3 mil.
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arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 10:58 am : link
What's funny is that the Stars were reportedly "hot" for Glass before we signed him. Maybe they're still dumb enough to think he's got value and we can dump him off on them. I'd take a hockey puck in exchange.

AV seems to think he's got some mysterious intangibles, though.. so he's not going anywhere.

Mystifying.. really, it is. And I'm a big AV fan. I think he's done a great job so far. This one I just can't figure out.
Yep, should have just brought back Carcillo  
Kyle in NY : 1/29/2015 10:59 am : link
if they felt like they needed some grit. Much better player, and cheaper. Brutal deal.
I believe his Corsi numbers are the very worst for an NHL forward  
Greg from LI : 1/29/2015 11:00 am : link
Dead fucking last.

For whatever reason, Vigneault loves the guy, but I'll be damned if I see the attraction.
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jv : 1/29/2015 11:02 am : link
In comment 12114382 arcarsenal said:
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AV seems to think he's got some mysterious intangibles, though.. so he's not going anywhere.

Mystifying.. really, it is. And I'm a big AV fan. I think he's done a great job so far. This one I just can't figure out.


Agreed... AV, who got us playing a more speed and possession game, for some reason loves this player that doesn't drive possession.
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BrettNYG10 : 1/29/2015 11:04 am : link
BTW, there's been articles about our lack of depth in the bottom six, which I think is largely horseshit (at least when we haven't played Glass). We've done well in the past 20 games because of an effective, but unconventional, bottom six. I think the need for 'grinders' has diminished and a bottom six that controls the puck is more valuable than a bunch of hitters.
Brett  
Greg from LI : 1/29/2015 11:06 am : link
I can go either way on that. On the one hand, you're right. On the other hand, I think a bit more aggression in the bottom six would be nice against teams like Boston and the Styx.
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arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 11:09 am : link
I don't know off hand but I honestly don't think we've lost more than 2-3 games MAX without Glass in the lineup this year.

So it's not like even though his numbers aren't good, we win with him in the lineup. It's almost the exact opposite. Which makes it even more maddening.
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BrettNYG10 : 1/29/2015 11:14 am : link
Greg, I don't disagree - there are obviously multiple ways to have good depth - those teams both have strong forechecks that generate turnovers and scoring opportunities and also drive decent possession as well.

I do think the game is a bit different than it was in the late 90's/early 00's where fourth liners were hitters/grinders, even with those teams you've cited (of course my memory could be bad here).
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Greg from LI : 1/29/2015 11:15 am : link
In comment 12114412 arcarsenal said:
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I don't know off hand but I honestly don't think we've lost more than 2-3 games MAX without Glass in the lineup this year.

So it's not like even though his numbers aren't good, we win with him in the lineup. It's almost the exact opposite. Which makes it even more maddening.


If you look at game logs, they don't differentiate between OTLs and regulation losses. If you combine the two, the Rangers are 27-18. They're 17-15 with Glass and 10-3 without him.
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arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 11:25 am : link
Yeah, I think that sample is large enough to tell you that we're a better team without him. And yet.. he continues to have a stranglehold on a lineup spot as long as he's healthy.

Miller over Glass is a fucking no brainer to everyone but the coach.
Need these two points...  
MetsAreBack : 1/29/2015 7:00 pm : link
...and the potential tie-breaker (H2H) on Montreal. Let's go boys.
Christian Thomas sighting!  
redbeard : 1/29/2015 7:22 pm : link
!!!
Shitty fucking call.  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 7:25 pm : link
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Not liking how we're looking so far.  
yatqb : 1/29/2015 7:29 pm : link
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the faceoffs  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 7:31 pm : link
are a real problem. Too many times we're getting beat clean
what a fucking pussy Subban is  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 7:35 pm : link
Talks all kinds of shit then runs away when the gloves are dropped
Subban is such a fucking pussy  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 7:35 pm : link
Kreider would have KO'd him
Kreider's just  
Stufftherun : 1/29/2015 7:35 pm : link
not very smart going back at him but if there's one thing you can count on it's a thespian in a Canadiens jersey flopping to the ice.

Well, yet another foolish act by Kreider.
Girardi  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 7:38 pm : link
has to bury that. Nice save but lousy puck handling by Girardi, too damn slow
HANK  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 7:42 pm : link
Holy shit!
that puck was in  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 7:44 pm : link
but based on the replays we've gotten fucked on, including one out on the west coast or in canada cant remember, it should stand
Yup  
Stufftherun : 1/29/2015 7:45 pm : link
Weise shot into Hank w the whole right side wide open. That looks like a goal.
Shit  
redbeard : 1/29/2015 7:45 pm : link
Shit shit shit


That's so close
We didn't get this in SJ...  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 7:45 pm : link
But they'll probably give them this because.. Toronto.
they are going to give them the goal  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 7:45 pm : link
just to piss us off even more.
Thank da lawd  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 7:48 pm : link
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That overhead shot  
Stufftherun : 1/29/2015 7:49 pm : link
where they blew up the image appeared to show a fraction of the puck on the line as Sam and Joe referenced.
i have zero  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 7:49 pm : link
doubt that puck was in but thankfully we caught a break with replay.
It was a goal  
TICSUAP : 1/29/2015 7:49 pm : link
However, the only time you could see the puck in it's entirety was when it was stopped against Lundy's pad, and at that point it was on the line.

Rangers got lucky, but at the same time that was the 'right' call.
RE: That overhead shot  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 7:49 pm : link
In comment 12115216 Stufftherun said:
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where they blew up the image appeared to show a fraction of the puck on the line as Sam and Joe referenced.


Yes, after it hit his toe and bounced back. It was definitely across
RE: RE: That overhead shot  
TICSUAP : 1/29/2015 7:54 pm : link
In comment 12115221 MookGiants said:
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In comment 12115216 Stufftherun said:


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where they blew up the image appeared to show a fraction of the puck on the line as Sam and Joe referenced.



Yes, after it hit his toe and bounced back. It was definitely across


Absolutely, it makes sense. The problem was there was no clear image of it being all the way across.

Logic says that puck crossed the line. The video couldn't back it up.
RE: RE: That overhead shot  
Stufftherun : 1/29/2015 7:58 pm : link
In comment 12115221 MookGiants said:
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In comment 12115216 Stufftherun said:


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where they blew up the image appeared to show a fraction of the puck on the line as Sam and Joe referenced.

Why they don't just get it over with and insert cameras under the crossbar and on each post? If the existing overhead camera shot is going to be obscured by the crossbar, the net and anything it's frequently going to result in an inconclusive decision.



Yes, after it hit his toe and bounced back. It was definitely across
This is getting ridiculous.  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 8:37 pm : link
We can't buy a fucking goal all of a sudden.
Not watching but following on gamecast  
Greg from LI : 1/29/2015 8:42 pm : link
There seem to be a whole lot of game stoppages in the past few minutes. 7 face offs in two and a half minutes of game time?
MTL  
bigbluehoya : 1/29/2015 8:45 pm : link
Is doing a nice job of forcing bad-angle shots.

Need to get some better looks and pull the trigger more quickly
What a stupid penalty.  
yatqb : 1/29/2015 8:47 pm : link
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LOL.. come on.  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 8:47 pm : link
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Soft fucking call  
bigbluehoya : 1/29/2015 8:47 pm : link
Kill this
No need for that call  
Stufftherun : 1/29/2015 8:47 pm : link
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Well, he grabbed him.  
yatqb : 1/29/2015 8:48 pm : link
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Remind me why we waived Weise?  
yatqb : 1/29/2015 8:49 pm : link
Really seems like a good 4th line wing. Who'd we keep, Zucc? I can't recall.
I've got Steps  
bigbluehoya : 1/29/2015 8:55 pm : link
For the game winner mid-way through the 3rd.
That beauty of a pass from Stepan  
bigbluehoya : 1/29/2015 9:03 pm : link
To Girardi was a prime chance....and DG was frozen pizza. Like a statue.
Bruins up by two  
Giants2012 : 1/29/2015 9:05 pm : link
No room for error despite a great record.

Damn  
bigbluehoya : 1/29/2015 9:15 pm : link
Both goalies just flawless tonight
What a save by Price!  
yatqb : 1/29/2015 9:16 pm : link
Damn, great skating and work by the Rangers...keep it up, guys, and pot one!
JFC..  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 9:16 pm : link
You have to be kidding me
Rangers  
bigbluehoya : 1/29/2015 9:19 pm : link
Are playing a nice period. Keep it up.

Staal is just erasing midgets tonight
Price  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 9:20 pm : link
did a good job of spinning to make sure it didn't trickle off of him and go into the net, but the initial save was more luck than anything. He made awesome saves in 1st period.
Type of game #11 would win  
Giants2012 : 1/29/2015 9:22 pm : link
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how  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 9:26 pm : link
in the world was that icing? Subban stopped skating
Brassard blatantly fucking slashed  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 9:30 pm : link
No call.. Gonchar gets away with a blatant pick before that.
that's  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 9:30 pm : link
got to be a fucking penalty. You can't swallow the whistle when Brassard has an open net and only misses it because he was slashed.
how the fuck wasn't that interference??  
nygmen84 : 1/29/2015 9:30 pm : link
The dude picked the fuck out of Stepan. And then Brassard gets slashed in front of the net and no call...unreal.
Blatant slash  
bigbluehoya : 1/29/2015 9:31 pm : link
Brassard needs to not stupidly retaliate
Refs  
bigbluehoya : 1/29/2015 9:33 pm : link
Did a nice job of getting the game back under control, but they can't just swallow their whistles now
what a joke of a no call  
nygmen84 : 1/29/2015 9:33 pm : link
The official was right there.
Jesus christ  
bigbluehoya : 1/29/2015 9:35 pm : link
Henrik.

What a fucking softie
Got to be  
RodneyHamp : 1/29/2015 9:35 pm : link
shitting me
FUCK  
nygmen84 : 1/29/2015 9:35 pm : link
God fucking dammit.
And there's the mistake  
Stufftherun : 1/29/2015 9:35 pm : link
Fuck!
this is going to be a fucking killer  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 9:35 pm : link
loss. Infuriating because that goal never happens if the official makes an easy call on the slash
Are you kidding me?  
redbeard : 1/29/2015 9:35 pm : link
Jesus fucking christ
we literally can't get a single thing to go our way  
nygmen84 : 1/29/2015 9:37 pm : link
Blatant no calls on legit scoring opportunities, mishandling passes in the offensive zone, and then Henrik let's up the softest goal possible. Ugh.
Ugh. amazing  
Giants2012 : 1/29/2015 9:37 pm : link
Nothing is easy even with a good record
Missed slash  
Kyle in NY : 1/29/2015 9:37 pm : link
then two trips on that last shift not called. Awesome!
Zuccs  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 9:38 pm : link
is a guy that needs to step his game up.
What a way to lose  
redbeard : 1/29/2015 9:38 pm : link
We have to find a way to tie...that was fucking horrendous on henriks part
Shit  
blueblood'11 : 1/29/2015 9:38 pm : link
Why am I not surprised
Nauseating.  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 9:40 pm : link
1 garbage goal in about 6 periods of hockey now. Can not get one single bounce.
Wow.. if that's Icing I must not understand the rule at all.  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 9:42 pm : link
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Icing???  
nygmen84 : 1/29/2015 9:42 pm : link
Are you fucking kidding me??? These refs are fucking trash.
Another fucking hose job  
redbeard : 1/29/2015 9:43 pm : link
By the refs



Fuck you
We're getting jobbed by the refs  
Deej : 1/29/2015 9:43 pm : link
We wont lose because of the refs, but this 3rd period has been brutal. At least 3 missed penalties on MTL. Now this crucial icing.
Really fucking frustrating  
Kyle in NY : 1/29/2015 9:44 pm : link
to lose on that goal.
the second  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 9:45 pm : link
they called the softest penalty on Moore they shoved the whistle up their ass the rest of the game
Talk about garbage.  
nygmen84 : 1/29/2015 9:45 pm : link
I hate blaming the refs but they absolutely fucked us in 3rd every chance they got and its not even debatable.
RE: the second  
nygmen84 : 1/29/2015 9:46 pm : link
In comment 12115371 MookGiants said:
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they called the softest penalty on Moore they shoved the whistle up their ass the rest of the game
Yup.
I wouldn't exactly say  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2015 9:46 pm : link
the Rangers got jobbed by the refs. the refs took away a goal from Montreal that should have been a goal.

I'm actually a little glad they didn't overturn it so I didn't have to hear about it.

It's one of those frustratingly  
Stufftherun : 1/29/2015 9:46 pm : link
dry stretches, and if they're to be honest with assessing where they are as a team, I would think these recent games against playoff caliber division and conference opponents has the FO thinking they've got to make a move.
That icing call was as bad as I've ever seen.  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 9:46 pm : link
There isn't a fucking planet in the universe where that should have been called icing
That was not icing!  
batman11 : 1/29/2015 9:47 pm : link
If they're so concerned about player safety than don't play hockey! Then nobody will get hurt!
Don't blame it on the refs  
blueblood'11 : 1/29/2015 9:47 pm : link
How many fucking goalies are going to shut this team out. They better figure out how to score again because as good as Hank is you know the softie is coming.
That is a bitter fucking loss  
bigbluehoya : 1/29/2015 9:47 pm : link
Henrik. Smh.
No room for error like the West was  
Giants2012 : 1/29/2015 9:47 pm : link
for years.

Can't wait to see Tanner Glass back on the ice on Saturday.  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 9:48 pm : link
We can't buy a goal right now and he offers nothing offensively but he sure does make his presence felt!
the refs  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 9:48 pm : link
weren't the only reason they lost but it's infuriating to have a wide open net missed because of a slash and then have them score right after. That goal doesnt happen if the ref makes the easiest callon the ice
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BrettNYG10 : 1/29/2015 9:51 pm : link
We weren't jobbed by the refs. Officiating consistently sucks league-wide, but I have a hard time blaming the refs for this one.

And how does the NHL not have better replay technology by now?

Henrik has to make that save.
Brett  
blueblood'11 : 1/29/2015 9:52 pm : link
Spot on
Henrik definitely needs to make the save  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 9:52 pm : link
I should also add the refs were a very small reason, their inability to finish with empty nets a few times is another. Girardi with a terrible move 1 on 1 against price was bad, too. They need to play better, and Henrik can't let that one in.

Pretty sure Hank was screened and couldn't see it.  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 9:53 pm : link
And at the end of the night, he gave up 1 goal. If there are a list of reasons why we lost, Hank isn't even in the top 10.

This team cannot buy a goal to save their lives right now.
I watched the 'slash' several times post game  
MetsAreBack : 1/29/2015 9:55 pm : link
it was a pretty good defensive play, and a borderline at best penalty. Brassard has to bury that... he tried to sell it once he didn't, but cmon.. you've gotta bury that fucking puck.

Cant believe Price somehow saved MSL's beautiful redirect.

Fuck. Their goalie was better than ours tonight. Losing streaks fucking suck, especially when their is no room to breath in this top heavy conference.

wake the fuck up and respond Saturday damnit.
arcarsenal  
blueblood'11 : 1/29/2015 9:57 pm : link
You would think over the last four games there was a steel door in front of the fucking net. It's unbelievable. Halal was a world beater against them the other night. Tonight he gave up five fucking goals to the Bruins
Hank is absolutely in the top 10 tonight  
MetsAreBack : 1/29/2015 9:57 pm : link
let's not embellish. Is he the goat? Doubt it, but you make it sound like he had to be brilliant tonight.. he didn't do much and he let in a brutal soft goal late.

We need better if we want to get back in the division race. But yeah, some offense would be nice too. Maybe Miller could help there? Nah, this Glass guy gets noticed out there.
MAB  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 9:57 pm : link
the redirect hit Price directly in the shoulder, I dont think he saw it until it was on his shoulder and then did a great job spinning to make sure it didn't fall in.
I thought the hyperbole was obvious...  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 9:59 pm : link
But we could have played 6 periods tonight and still never scored. I have a hard time blaming the goalie for a 1-0 loss when he holds them off the board for about 55+ minutes. They did have a few good chances. We gave him nothing to work with.
I'm sure what Price did on that  
MetsAreBack : 1/29/2015 10:00 pm : link
was part skill, part luck. That's what happens I guess when things aren't going your way. Last year MSL gets that break and it goes in. This year, he's not getting breaks.
Another game Glass was in there  
B in ALB : 1/29/2015 10:00 pm : link
another loss. Plus he was lucky to get a draw - not really - against scumbag Prust.

But let's keep him out there! He's such a presence!

Get him the fuck off this team!

Get Miller in there every night. Fuck Glass.

And nice fuckin job by Henrik giving up a complete joke to blow the game. Fuckin atrocious.

And where the fuck are STL and Zucc? Are they playing anymore? Are they sitting it out now?

Can Boyle stop turning the puck over? Can he make one fucking play please? He's a fuckin waste.


And BTW. PK is the biggest bitch fake pussy typical diving Montreal cunt in history. Those faux French assholes are the absolute worst. Led by Therein and his cunt codpiece duck taped to his fuckin head. Awful loss to a completely detestable franchise.

But goddamn! They make some tasty ketchup potato chips up there!!! Old Dutch aka Humpty Dumpty old school shit in yo grill american swine!








I know arc...  
MetsAreBack : 1/29/2015 10:02 pm : link
but just once this year wouldn't it be nice to sit here and say "Hank won that one for us"

Just hasn't happened all year for whatever reason. I mean giving up a goal like that with under 5 to go against Carey Price who's playing great at the other end?

Just totally deflating. Played a really nice, sound defensive game tonight... had some chances offensively.. but playing a really good team, so in the regular season, take your Bettman point and see what happens in OT. But we end up with a big fat nothing again tonight. Just sucks.
this is too good a team  
MetsAreBack : 1/29/2015 10:04 pm : link
to have 15 regulation losses in 46 games. Is it AV's aggressive system that has us playing far fewer OT games than other teams two years in a row now? Or just bad luck?
Zucc is costing himself UFA money  
Kyle in NY : 1/29/2015 10:04 pm : link
Gotta play better
I blame it on Henrik's commitment  
B in ALB : 1/29/2015 10:05 pm : link
To JD and the Straight Shot. He's been jamming with those assholes and it's been at the expense of the team. Of course, Dolan doesn't care because it promotes their summer tour - where Henrik is a special guest.
I can't stand  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2015 10:05 pm : link
the no-touch icing rules. but as someone who plays hockey I like when they put the whistles away.

I felt like the game was pretty consistent (even if it was consistently bad) maybe one call went one way or the other, but I think the players prefer that too.
Just frustrated as all hell right now.  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 10:07 pm : link
Spent 150 two nights ago to sit in that fucking dump in Nassau for over 2 hours in silence and watch us get scored on 4 times and respond with nothing but a garbage goal that happened when I was already walking out of the building.. then tonight I watch 3 more periods of missed opportunities and then we give one up that was definitely stoppable and fucking lose 1-0.

I haven't physically seen this team score a goal since Hagelin beat the Senators in OT a week and a half ago.

Frustrating as fucking hell.
RE: this is too good a team  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2015 10:07 pm : link
In comment 12115416 MetsAreBack said:
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to have 15 regulation losses in 46 games. Is it AV's aggressive system that has us playing far fewer OT games than other teams two years in a row now? Or just bad luck?


I've seen my share of Rangers games, I think it's just luck. I hate to use the phrase puck luck, but we all know what that means.

Believe me, no one wants to play the Rangers in the playoffs (if they're playing this way in the spring). That team is built for long playoff runs. They're a lot like the Bruins from 2011. Solid system the players buy into, max effort, positionally almost always in the right spot, crisp breakouts and neutral zone play, skill players, solid defense, and great goalie who can steal a game.
RE: I can't stand  
B in ALB : 1/29/2015 10:09 pm : link
In comment 12115419 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
the no-touch icing rules. but as someone who plays hockey I like when they put the whistles away.

I felt like the game was pretty consistent (even if it was consistently bad) maybe one call went one way or the other, but I think the players prefer that too.


Agree. I didn't think the officiating told the story. Both teams fought hard, played hard and the end was a disappointment (to Nyr fans of course). That said, it was pretty evenly called.

But pk is still a gigantic pulsating pus bag. Horrible. Such a bitch.
And to compound it..  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 10:11 pm : link
We could have both jumped back over the Caps and gotten to within 5 pts of 1st in the division with 2 games in hand if we could have pulled this out. Just a waste of a fucking chance.
RE: Zucc is costing himself UFA money  
Stufftherun : 1/29/2015 10:13 pm : link
In comment 12115417 Kyle in NY said:
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Gotta play better


As much as I hate saying it, I'm convinced Zuccie will be the odd man out.

These tight, tough games against the likes of the Styx, Boston as well as Tampa and the Habs has to give the FO pause. They need someone that can win a faceoff and to take the pressure off of Hayes who's minutes have diminished.
The bottom 4-5 forwards  
bigbluehoya : 1/29/2015 10:14 pm : link
On this team just really don't bring much to the table.

Stemp, Glass, Moore, Hayes is just 2 or 3 too many players with no offensive pop whatsoever, and they aren't any better than average on D. A player like Fast should be your 10th/11th best forward, not your 7th/8th.

Combine that with the fact that they're getting fuck-all from guys like Zucc and Hags, and you just start to look like a team with a lot less talent than you thought you had.

Boyle also looks like absolute shit lately.
Boyle was a shitty signing.  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 10:16 pm : link
I didn't like it when it went down, I don't like it now. It was a panic move and an overreaction to needing a better point man on the power play. He looks every bit his age, he sucks in our zone and he's not giving the PP enough juice to justify his contract.
a deal is in hand  
B in ALB : 1/29/2015 10:29 pm : link
unfortunately they don't have a lot of pieces. Boyle, Glass, Hayes, Step, Zucc, etc have all been non factors recently.

That said, this is virtually the same team that just went on a great streak. And if Hank doesn't give up that ridiculous goal tonight we may not be having the conversation.

Still doesn't change the fact that the players mentioned above have been bullshit.

There are definitely weak points that need to be addressed if they want to make rain this year.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 1/29/2015 10:34 pm : link
Sitting Miller is such a fucking stupid decision.

Adding a skilled guy to the bottom six changes its complexion. We have that skilled guy.

And yes, Miller makes errors. But he's earned a longer leash. Girardi and McDonagh have both fucked up tons the past two games.

And fuck, Price is good.
Steal a game huh!  
blueblood'11 : 1/29/2015 11:02 pm : link
About he steal this game tonight. That would have been nice.
RE: ....  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2015 11:05 pm : link
In comment 12115443 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
Sitting Miller is such a fucking stupid decision.

Adding a skilled guy to the bottom six changes its complexion. We have that skilled guy.

And yes, Miller makes errors. But he's earned a longer leash. Girardi and McDonagh have both fucked up tons the past two games.

And fuck, Price is good.


Price has come a long way, he's a legit elite goalie now. This was expected of him, but until the past two seasons there were doubts (consistency mainly).

Problem is he's overwhelmingly the strongest part of the team.

fuck you, pj  
Davisian : 1/29/2015 11:23 pm : link
Fuckin refs...

Pj  
bigbluehoya : 1/29/2015 11:28 pm : link
You're sand-bagging the Habs hard.

To me they're only a piece or two away from being right there with the very top teams in the east.
Yup, a piece or two..  
Davisian : 1/29/2015 11:32 pm : link
like cock and balls. ?

RE: Pj  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2015 11:35 pm : link
In comment 12115471 bigbluehoya said:
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You're sand-bagging the Habs hard.

To me they're only a piece or two away from being right there with the very top teams in the east.


You think so?

I think they're one of those teams that relies heavily on their goalie. They're opportunistic, but certainly not dominant.

If they make a deadline deal for a bona fide sniper maybe, but Paccioretty is their goal scorer. And I love the guy (I like almost all the American players), he's not who you think of with elite goal scorers.

Their D is suspect. Subban is not a stay at home defenseman, and Markov while so well rounded is 100 years old. As is Gonchar.

Plekanec is a finnesse guy. Gallagher is a grinder. Galcheynuk is their most talented player and he's still 20 years old.

I want to buy into them, but they're goal differential and if you watch them, many times after the games I find myself saying "how the F did they pull out that win?".

Anyway, they're not a bad team, just not one IMO built on sustainable winning. They grind away until they get a break, and hope Carey keeps them in the game until then.
didn't finish this thought  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2015 11:36 pm : link
but THEIR goal differential tells a different story
There's significant holes in each eastern team..  
Davisian : 1/29/2015 11:43 pm : link
Depth issues up front of on D and one team doesn't have much speed but the other doesn't have enough size and blah blah blah..

But I'm pretty sure Hank, Price, Halak, and even lolfleury won't be the reason any of those teams don't advance far..


I think the dumbest team will be the one who rocks their core to "go for it" around the trade deadline and totally fucks up their chemistry along with hurting depth and their future.








RE: Hey PJ  
Spock : 1/30/2015 6:28 am : link
In comment 12115460 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
In comment 12115443 BrettNYG10 said:


Quote:


Sitting Miller is such a fucking stupid decision.

Adding a skilled guy to the bottom six changes its complexion. We have that skilled guy.

And yes, Miller makes errors. But he's earned a longer leash. Girardi and McDonagh have both fucked up tons the past two games.

And fuck, Price is good.



Price has come a long way, he's a legit elite goalie now. This was expected of him, but until the past two seasons there were doubts (consistency mainly).

Problem is he's overwhelmingly the strongest part of the team.


I agree completely with your assessment on Price. He has matured nicely and can now be considered elite. I'm not sure why Ranger fans are so upset with the refs here- they were going to get shut out no matter what. And besides, we did get a goal taken away from us. That more than makes up for any icing or penalty not called.
Well....  
MetsAreBack : 1/30/2015 7:28 am : link
6-10-1 now against the other Eastern Conference playoff teams. One of those wins was against Tokarski, not Price, and 2 of the other wins came in Overtime.

Bad luck or has this team taken a step back from last year? Feel like most of these games, except maybe one of the Islanders games, have been played pretty close... but for whatever reason we're getting unlucky or someone (like Hank last night) makes an incredibly bad play and we lose. Frustrating.
.......  
BrettNYG10 : 1/30/2015 8:21 am : link
pj, I have TB has the favorite coming out of the East, but the Canadiens are really close (and have the superior goaltending). I think you're being too critical of your team and overestimating the competition.

Loss aside, last night was a fun game. Really intense, lots of exciting shit.
I think they're a better team than last season  
Kyle in NY : 1/30/2015 8:23 am : link
it's two frustrating losses, let's not overreact. It doesn't erase the month and a half of great hockey they'd played.

This team swept the Western Canada trip and the California trip (!). It takes a pretty good team to do that. Hopefully we take it out on a shitty Carolina team Saturday night.
Yeah, it's just a bit of a lull.  
arcarsenal : 1/30/2015 8:30 am : link
Realistically, I know they're fine and will bounce back and put together another string of really good hockey. Games like last night just drive me nuts.

Great game from a hockey perspective, maddening from a fan perspective.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 1/30/2015 8:31 am : link
I think this team is better than last years (and last I checked a couple of weeks ago, it was performing at a better pace than the team 12 months ago).

We lost a game that was essentially a coin flip to a very good team.

BTW, Nash needed to score on that short handed opportunity. Fuck. I'm encouraged that he's still getting and creating those opportunities even though the puck isn't bouncing his way. His S% was unsustainable even accounting for the quality of chances he was creating.
RE: .......  
pjcas18 : 1/30/2015 8:36 am : link
In comment 12115549 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
pj, I have TB has the favorite coming out of the East, but the Canadiens are really close (and have the superior goaltending). I think you're being too critical of your team and overestimating the competition.

Loss aside, last night was a fun game. Really intense, lots of exciting shit.


you think so? Maybe, I am.

It's shaping up to be a great 2nd half/finish and if things hold even close to right now a great playoff season.



...  
BrettNYG10 : 1/30/2015 8:52 am : link
Yeah, definitely. We (Ranger fans) do the same shit. It's a lot worse on HF, where fans act like a 3C or 6D is preventing us from making a run, ignoring that every team has salient holes.
Yeah, I agree  
pjcas18 : 1/30/2015 9:05 am : link
with that.

And it's not like I think the habs are a bad team. I don't.

It's just the system, it's not obvious their approach like the Rangers or Bruins with AV or Julien who have strict systems. the Habs rely more on being opportunistic and having a great goalie.

No doubt it's worked for them so far this year, things have really clicked and maybe davisian is on to something and chemistry is more important than some other factors.
While we can say the Blueshirts are  
Stufftherun : 1/30/2015 9:29 am : link
a better team this year you can also look around the division/conference and say there are teams that are also better this year and those teams are either playing better at this juncture or they're simply better squads.

This team should be measured not only by their current record and their recent streak including the impressive sweep on the west coast trip but how they stack up against those that they're looking up at in the points standings (Yinz aside).
The East has grown much stronger this year  
Greg from LI : 1/30/2015 9:42 am : link
Most of the usual suspect from the past are still competing, plus the Lightning and the Styx have taken big leaps forward.
Maybe one day there'll be a Ranger thread  
Mike in Long Beach : 1/30/2015 11:43 am : link
where you guys lose and aren't bitching at the refs.

Oh well. March 15th, boys. Mark your calendars. The Panthers come to town with the final playoff spot on the line. Gonna be epic.
Just kidding guys  
Mike in Long Beach : 1/30/2015 11:48 am : link
Definitely was an awful icing at the end there.
As 99% of the fans indicated  
bigbluehoya : 1/30/2015 11:52 am : link
Immediately after the game, that loss was about an incredibly soft goal allowed in crunch time and the inability to finish, not the refs.

It's an absurdly bad icing call, but them's the breaks.
The Rangers aren't good enough for AV to keep playing Glass  
Greg from LI : 1/30/2015 11:55 am : link
It's long past time for him to overcome that weird fixation. The guy simply a very bad hockey player and he hurts the team. Now 17-16 with Glass and 10-3 without him.
Shame on the beat reporters  
bigbluehoya : 1/30/2015 12:00 pm : link
For not having put the question to AV multiple times on this. They should be hammering him on it in pressers. The correlation is absurd, and seems to me AV had barely been put in a position to speak to it. From what I've seen it's been lightly glazed over with questions phrased as "Glass' struggles", etc,

RE: Shame on the beat reporters  
NYerInMA : 1/30/2015 12:26 pm : link
In comment 12115900 bigbluehoya said:
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For not having put the question to AV multiple times on this. They should be hammering him on it in pressers. The correlation is absurd, and seems to me AV had barely been put in a position to speak to it. From what I've seen it's been lightly glazed over with questions phrased as "Glass' struggles", etc,


Indeed. AV really needs to be grilled about this.
Brooks  
bigbluehoya : 1/30/2015 12:36 pm : link
Speculating that J Moore being showcased for trade.

Not sure what team in their right mind is giving up anything of value (rental or not) for Moore.
...  
BrettNYG10 : 1/30/2015 12:43 pm : link
I think Moore has a bit more upside than most are giving him credit for, but he seems like a throw-in rather than a center piece.

I feel like the writers constantly write about Glass.
It's the same alleged upside  
bigbluehoya : 1/30/2015 12:49 pm : link
He had when we acquired him 2 years ago. Since then there has been virtually zero progression and now he's arb-eligible.

The writers have acknowledged that Glass sucks, but AV has hardly been put on the spot about it from what I've seen.
.  
arcarsenal : 1/30/2015 12:55 pm : link
We've been waiting on Moore's upside since we acquired him. He's not taking that next step. I thought he would thrive when AV got here but it hasn't happened.
All good points.  
BrettNYG10 : 1/30/2015 1:02 pm : link
I don't really disagree.
RE: Maybe one day there'll be a Ranger thread  
MetsAreBack : 1/30/2015 2:46 pm : link
In comment 12115846 Mike in Long Beach said:
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where you guys lose and aren't bitching at the refs.

Oh well. March 15th, boys. Mark your calendars. The Panthers come to town with the final playoff spot on the line. Gonna be epic.


This is why no one likes you. You try too hard to be douchy. The douche needs to flow naturally from within.
I dont think you'll make the sweet 16 come the spring.

Anyway, why would we care about the Capitals & Panthers going down to the wire? Go Panthers.


We all complain about Glass-- he definitely sucks, but there's a lot of guys on this team not getting it done. Hagelin, Zuccs, Kreider to name a few.

And guess who has 15 goals in 65 regular season games now as a Ranger? Yup, the same guy who scored 25+ for 11 straight years in Tampa. We all knew this would happen, of course. Makes you real cautious about giving this guy an extension next year. He turns 40 in June.
And I wouldnt be nearly as pissy today  
MetsAreBack : 1/30/2015 2:49 pm : link
if our fuckin franchise goalie makes an uncontested, unscrened 40 foot throwaway shot save with under 5 minutes to go. Fuckin' fuck we better kick Carolina's ass on Saturday.
You all  
Fish : 1/30/2015 2:51 pm : link
Sound like a bunch of bitches.
RE: You all  
B in ALB : 1/30/2015 3:02 pm : link
In comment 12116283 Fish said:
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Sound like a bunch of bitches.


Hey limp Dick, shouldn't you be fisting yourself right now?

Oh I get it, you're typing with your free hand. Good job pal.
Fish, you should probably get back  
bigbluehoya : 1/30/2015 3:35 pm : link
To stroking your clit about how relieved you are that the isles lost last night. Talk about sounding like a fucking pussy. Slurp slurp.
The Devils are just completely fucking useless.  
arcarsenal : 1/30/2015 9:39 pm : link
Blow their 1 goal lead to the Pens with less than 4 minutes to play and then promptly lose in OT.
I just watched that ...  
Stufftherun : 1/30/2015 9:43 pm : link
what a disgrace, just handed the Yinz 2 points.
fuck the Devils  
feelflows : 1/30/2015 10:09 pm : link
useless is the perfect word.
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