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BrettNYG10 : 1/29/2015 7:44 am
Fuck off, pj.

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We're getting jobbed by the refs  
Deej : 1/29/2015 9:43 pm : link
We wont lose because of the refs, but this 3rd period has been brutal. At least 3 missed penalties on MTL. Now this crucial icing.
Really fucking frustrating  
Kyle in NY : 1/29/2015 9:44 pm : link
to lose on that goal.
the second  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 9:45 pm : link
they called the softest penalty on Moore they shoved the whistle up their ass the rest of the game
Talk about garbage.  
nygmen84 : 1/29/2015 9:45 pm : link
I hate blaming the refs but they absolutely fucked us in 3rd every chance they got and its not even debatable.
RE: the second  
nygmen84 : 1/29/2015 9:46 pm : link
In comment 12115371 MookGiants said:
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they called the softest penalty on Moore they shoved the whistle up their ass the rest of the game
Yup.
I wouldn't exactly say  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2015 9:46 pm : link
the Rangers got jobbed by the refs. the refs took away a goal from Montreal that should have been a goal.

I'm actually a little glad they didn't overturn it so I didn't have to hear about it.

It's one of those frustratingly  
Stufftherun : 1/29/2015 9:46 pm : link
dry stretches, and if they're to be honest with assessing where they are as a team, I would think these recent games against playoff caliber division and conference opponents has the FO thinking they've got to make a move.
That icing call was as bad as I've ever seen.  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 9:46 pm : link
There isn't a fucking planet in the universe where that should have been called icing
That was not icing!  
batman11 : 1/29/2015 9:47 pm : link
If they're so concerned about player safety than don't play hockey! Then nobody will get hurt!
Don't blame it on the refs  
blueblood'11 : 1/29/2015 9:47 pm : link
How many fucking goalies are going to shut this team out. They better figure out how to score again because as good as Hank is you know the softie is coming.
That is a bitter fucking loss  
bigbluehoya : 1/29/2015 9:47 pm : link
Henrik. Smh.
No room for error like the West was  
Giants2012 : 1/29/2015 9:47 pm : link
for years.

Can't wait to see Tanner Glass back on the ice on Saturday.  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 9:48 pm : link
We can't buy a goal right now and he offers nothing offensively but he sure does make his presence felt!
the refs  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 9:48 pm : link
weren't the only reason they lost but it's infuriating to have a wide open net missed because of a slash and then have them score right after. That goal doesnt happen if the ref makes the easiest callon the ice
....  
BrettNYG10 : 1/29/2015 9:51 pm : link
We weren't jobbed by the refs. Officiating consistently sucks league-wide, but I have a hard time blaming the refs for this one.

And how does the NHL not have better replay technology by now?

Henrik has to make that save.
Brett  
blueblood'11 : 1/29/2015 9:52 pm : link
Spot on
Henrik definitely needs to make the save  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 9:52 pm : link
I should also add the refs were a very small reason, their inability to finish with empty nets a few times is another. Girardi with a terrible move 1 on 1 against price was bad, too. They need to play better, and Henrik can't let that one in.

Pretty sure Hank was screened and couldn't see it.  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 9:53 pm : link
And at the end of the night, he gave up 1 goal. If there are a list of reasons why we lost, Hank isn't even in the top 10.

This team cannot buy a goal to save their lives right now.
I watched the 'slash' several times post game  
MetsAreBack : 1/29/2015 9:55 pm : link
it was a pretty good defensive play, and a borderline at best penalty. Brassard has to bury that... he tried to sell it once he didn't, but cmon.. you've gotta bury that fucking puck.

Cant believe Price somehow saved MSL's beautiful redirect.

Fuck. Their goalie was better than ours tonight. Losing streaks fucking suck, especially when their is no room to breath in this top heavy conference.

wake the fuck up and respond Saturday damnit.
arcarsenal  
blueblood'11 : 1/29/2015 9:57 pm : link
You would think over the last four games there was a steel door in front of the fucking net. It's unbelievable. Halal was a world beater against them the other night. Tonight he gave up five fucking goals to the Bruins
Hank is absolutely in the top 10 tonight  
MetsAreBack : 1/29/2015 9:57 pm : link
let's not embellish. Is he the goat? Doubt it, but you make it sound like he had to be brilliant tonight.. he didn't do much and he let in a brutal soft goal late.

We need better if we want to get back in the division race. But yeah, some offense would be nice too. Maybe Miller could help there? Nah, this Glass guy gets noticed out there.
MAB  
MookGiants : 1/29/2015 9:57 pm : link
the redirect hit Price directly in the shoulder, I dont think he saw it until it was on his shoulder and then did a great job spinning to make sure it didn't fall in.
I thought the hyperbole was obvious...  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 9:59 pm : link
But we could have played 6 periods tonight and still never scored. I have a hard time blaming the goalie for a 1-0 loss when he holds them off the board for about 55+ minutes. They did have a few good chances. We gave him nothing to work with.
I'm sure what Price did on that  
MetsAreBack : 1/29/2015 10:00 pm : link
was part skill, part luck. That's what happens I guess when things aren't going your way. Last year MSL gets that break and it goes in. This year, he's not getting breaks.
Another game Glass was in there  
B in ALB : 1/29/2015 10:00 pm : link
another loss. Plus he was lucky to get a draw - not really - against scumbag Prust.

But let's keep him out there! He's such a presence!

Get him the fuck off this team!

Get Miller in there every night. Fuck Glass.

And nice fuckin job by Henrik giving up a complete joke to blow the game. Fuckin atrocious.

And where the fuck are STL and Zucc? Are they playing anymore? Are they sitting it out now?

Can Boyle stop turning the puck over? Can he make one fucking play please? He's a fuckin waste.


And BTW. PK is the biggest bitch fake pussy typical diving Montreal cunt in history. Those faux French assholes are the absolute worst. Led by Therein and his cunt codpiece duck taped to his fuckin head. Awful loss to a completely detestable franchise.

But goddamn! They make some tasty ketchup potato chips up there!!! Old Dutch aka Humpty Dumpty old school shit in yo grill american swine!








I know arc...  
MetsAreBack : 1/29/2015 10:02 pm : link
but just once this year wouldn't it be nice to sit here and say "Hank won that one for us"

Just hasn't happened all year for whatever reason. I mean giving up a goal like that with under 5 to go against Carey Price who's playing great at the other end?

Just totally deflating. Played a really nice, sound defensive game tonight... had some chances offensively.. but playing a really good team, so in the regular season, take your Bettman point and see what happens in OT. But we end up with a big fat nothing again tonight. Just sucks.
this is too good a team  
MetsAreBack : 1/29/2015 10:04 pm : link
to have 15 regulation losses in 46 games. Is it AV's aggressive system that has us playing far fewer OT games than other teams two years in a row now? Or just bad luck?
Zucc is costing himself UFA money  
Kyle in NY : 1/29/2015 10:04 pm : link
Gotta play better
I blame it on Henrik's commitment  
B in ALB : 1/29/2015 10:05 pm : link
To JD and the Straight Shot. He's been jamming with those assholes and it's been at the expense of the team. Of course, Dolan doesn't care because it promotes their summer tour - where Henrik is a special guest.
I can't stand  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2015 10:05 pm : link
the no-touch icing rules. but as someone who plays hockey I like when they put the whistles away.

I felt like the game was pretty consistent (even if it was consistently bad) maybe one call went one way or the other, but I think the players prefer that too.
Just frustrated as all hell right now.  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 10:07 pm : link
Spent 150 two nights ago to sit in that fucking dump in Nassau for over 2 hours in silence and watch us get scored on 4 times and respond with nothing but a garbage goal that happened when I was already walking out of the building.. then tonight I watch 3 more periods of missed opportunities and then we give one up that was definitely stoppable and fucking lose 1-0.

I haven't physically seen this team score a goal since Hagelin beat the Senators in OT a week and a half ago.

Frustrating as fucking hell.
RE: this is too good a team  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2015 10:07 pm : link
In comment 12115416 MetsAreBack said:
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to have 15 regulation losses in 46 games. Is it AV's aggressive system that has us playing far fewer OT games than other teams two years in a row now? Or just bad luck?


I've seen my share of Rangers games, I think it's just luck. I hate to use the phrase puck luck, but we all know what that means.

Believe me, no one wants to play the Rangers in the playoffs (if they're playing this way in the spring). That team is built for long playoff runs. They're a lot like the Bruins from 2011. Solid system the players buy into, max effort, positionally almost always in the right spot, crisp breakouts and neutral zone play, skill players, solid defense, and great goalie who can steal a game.
RE: I can't stand  
B in ALB : 1/29/2015 10:09 pm : link
In comment 12115419 pjcas18 said:
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the no-touch icing rules. but as someone who plays hockey I like when they put the whistles away.

I felt like the game was pretty consistent (even if it was consistently bad) maybe one call went one way or the other, but I think the players prefer that too.


Agree. I didn't think the officiating told the story. Both teams fought hard, played hard and the end was a disappointment (to Nyr fans of course). That said, it was pretty evenly called.

But pk is still a gigantic pulsating pus bag. Horrible. Such a bitch.
And to compound it..  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 10:11 pm : link
We could have both jumped back over the Caps and gotten to within 5 pts of 1st in the division with 2 games in hand if we could have pulled this out. Just a waste of a fucking chance.
RE: Zucc is costing himself UFA money  
Stufftherun : 1/29/2015 10:13 pm : link
In comment 12115417 Kyle in NY said:
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Gotta play better


As much as I hate saying it, I'm convinced Zuccie will be the odd man out.

These tight, tough games against the likes of the Styx, Boston as well as Tampa and the Habs has to give the FO pause. They need someone that can win a faceoff and to take the pressure off of Hayes who's minutes have diminished.
The bottom 4-5 forwards  
bigbluehoya : 1/29/2015 10:14 pm : link
On this team just really don't bring much to the table.

Stemp, Glass, Moore, Hayes is just 2 or 3 too many players with no offensive pop whatsoever, and they aren't any better than average on D. A player like Fast should be your 10th/11th best forward, not your 7th/8th.

Combine that with the fact that they're getting fuck-all from guys like Zucc and Hags, and you just start to look like a team with a lot less talent than you thought you had.

Boyle also looks like absolute shit lately.
Boyle was a shitty signing.  
arcarsenal : 1/29/2015 10:16 pm : link
I didn't like it when it went down, I don't like it now. It was a panic move and an overreaction to needing a better point man on the power play. He looks every bit his age, he sucks in our zone and he's not giving the PP enough juice to justify his contract.
a deal is in hand  
B in ALB : 1/29/2015 10:29 pm : link
unfortunately they don't have a lot of pieces. Boyle, Glass, Hayes, Step, Zucc, etc have all been non factors recently.

That said, this is virtually the same team that just went on a great streak. And if Hank doesn't give up that ridiculous goal tonight we may not be having the conversation.

Still doesn't change the fact that the players mentioned above have been bullshit.

There are definitely weak points that need to be addressed if they want to make rain this year.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 1/29/2015 10:34 pm : link
Sitting Miller is such a fucking stupid decision.

Adding a skilled guy to the bottom six changes its complexion. We have that skilled guy.

And yes, Miller makes errors. But he's earned a longer leash. Girardi and McDonagh have both fucked up tons the past two games.

And fuck, Price is good.
Steal a game huh!  
blueblood'11 : 1/29/2015 11:02 pm : link
About he steal this game tonight. That would have been nice.
RE: ....  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2015 11:05 pm : link
In comment 12115443 BrettNYG10 said:
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Sitting Miller is such a fucking stupid decision.

Adding a skilled guy to the bottom six changes its complexion. We have that skilled guy.

And yes, Miller makes errors. But he's earned a longer leash. Girardi and McDonagh have both fucked up tons the past two games.

And fuck, Price is good.


Price has come a long way, he's a legit elite goalie now. This was expected of him, but until the past two seasons there were doubts (consistency mainly).

Problem is he's overwhelmingly the strongest part of the team.

fuck you, pj  
Davisian : 1/29/2015 11:23 pm : link
Fuckin refs...

Pj  
bigbluehoya : 1/29/2015 11:28 pm : link
You're sand-bagging the Habs hard.

To me they're only a piece or two away from being right there with the very top teams in the east.
Yup, a piece or two..  
Davisian : 1/29/2015 11:32 pm : link
like cock and balls. ?

RE: Pj  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2015 11:35 pm : link
In comment 12115471 bigbluehoya said:
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You're sand-bagging the Habs hard.

To me they're only a piece or two away from being right there with the very top teams in the east.


You think so?

I think they're one of those teams that relies heavily on their goalie. They're opportunistic, but certainly not dominant.

If they make a deadline deal for a bona fide sniper maybe, but Paccioretty is their goal scorer. And I love the guy (I like almost all the American players), he's not who you think of with elite goal scorers.

Their D is suspect. Subban is not a stay at home defenseman, and Markov while so well rounded is 100 years old. As is Gonchar.

Plekanec is a finnesse guy. Gallagher is a grinder. Galcheynuk is their most talented player and he's still 20 years old.

I want to buy into them, but they're goal differential and if you watch them, many times after the games I find myself saying "how the F did they pull out that win?".

Anyway, they're not a bad team, just not one IMO built on sustainable winning. They grind away until they get a break, and hope Carey keeps them in the game until then.
didn't finish this thought  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2015 11:36 pm : link
but THEIR goal differential tells a different story
There's significant holes in each eastern team..  
Davisian : 1/29/2015 11:43 pm : link
Depth issues up front of on D and one team doesn't have much speed but the other doesn't have enough size and blah blah blah..

But I'm pretty sure Hank, Price, Halak, and even lolfleury won't be the reason any of those teams don't advance far..


I think the dumbest team will be the one who rocks their core to "go for it" around the trade deadline and totally fucks up their chemistry along with hurting depth and their future.








RE: Hey PJ  
Spock : 1/30/2015 6:28 am : link
In comment 12115460 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 12115443 BrettNYG10 said:


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Sitting Miller is such a fucking stupid decision.

Adding a skilled guy to the bottom six changes its complexion. We have that skilled guy.

And yes, Miller makes errors. But he's earned a longer leash. Girardi and McDonagh have both fucked up tons the past two games.

And fuck, Price is good.



Price has come a long way, he's a legit elite goalie now. This was expected of him, but until the past two seasons there were doubts (consistency mainly).

Problem is he's overwhelmingly the strongest part of the team.


I agree completely with your assessment on Price. He has matured nicely and can now be considered elite. I'm not sure why Ranger fans are so upset with the refs here- they were going to get shut out no matter what. And besides, we did get a goal taken away from us. That more than makes up for any icing or penalty not called.
Well....  
MetsAreBack : 1/30/2015 7:28 am : link
6-10-1 now against the other Eastern Conference playoff teams. One of those wins was against Tokarski, not Price, and 2 of the other wins came in Overtime.

Bad luck or has this team taken a step back from last year? Feel like most of these games, except maybe one of the Islanders games, have been played pretty close... but for whatever reason we're getting unlucky or someone (like Hank last night) makes an incredibly bad play and we lose. Frustrating.
.......  
BrettNYG10 : 1/30/2015 8:21 am : link
pj, I have TB has the favorite coming out of the East, but the Canadiens are really close (and have the superior goaltending). I think you're being too critical of your team and overestimating the competition.

Loss aside, last night was a fun game. Really intense, lots of exciting shit.
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