No doubt this is not news to a lot of BBIers, but I was just listening to a radio interview with Parcells and his "sweetest" moment as an NFL coach was the 1990 NFC championship win against SF. Not the Super Bowls. (And I have to admit that I liked listening to him talk about his years with the Giants as I drove around Massachusetts the week before the SB.)
Made me remember that game. Wow, that intense Giants defense...I miss that.
I specifically phrased it to Marshall re the prevailing feeling((he was great friend with my daughter and son-in-law) at my daughter's wedding..He said unequivocally that they were fine with it, that it was "football" and the idea that the Giants were pissed at the time was not true..Perhaps, Banks never shared it with him..
I watched a game from 1980 and I was shocked that the first commercial did not come until the end of the first quarter. What they used to do was have the announcer say (during a huddle or time out) "And this time out was brought to you by Toyota" or something like that but they would stay with the game. We used to see huddles and we used to see the QB go over and talk to the head coach too. It used to be fun to see Simms and Parcells seem to be arguing on the sidelines. It really pulled you into the game.
The games can still be good but they will never be like they used to be.
Bahr's response: "They're not trying to ice ME, Steve, they know YOU have to snap it."
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I know it's Bill's side of the story, and GY is gone, but it's not the first time I heard that about GY and Belichick. I had not heard the Coughlin story before.
It was incredible Stu. 2 Heavyweights, complete opposite philosophies, saying fuck it and going toe to toe. What a great era.
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- Mo Carthon dropped a perfectly placed pass from Meggett on a halfback option in the end zone because he lost the ball in the sun. Should have been a TD
- Mark Collins had an easy fumble recovery when Marshall killed Montana and if he got that ball, the Giants are in scoring position. Steve Wallace, with that crazy extra helmet thing for concussions got the ball
- On Gary Reasons' fake punt return, the Niners had 10 men on the field. If he doesn't run directly at John Taylor, he had a great chance of scoring on that play. What I loved about that fake punt, among the obvious, was Pat Summerall's call. Summerall was great as a deadpan announcer, but allowed the game and the fans to bring the intensity home. As Reasons burst through the line you could hear the excitement in his voice. He was so far in a way the best play by play man, in his prime, it's not funny, especially compared to what we have today.
- The Niner's lone TD came because Everson Walls misplayed a ball and went for a pick rather than just playing Taylor. If he plays the man, the Niners weren't really driving well on the Giants and I'm not sure if we would have seen them get a TD.
- Bahr kicked 5 FGs, but he also missed one. That's 6 trips in scoring territory against the Niners
That's why I think the football Gods stepped up and rewarded the Giants with the Craig fumble. The Giants were the better team that game and deserved to win. I liken it to the Favre pick in OT in 2007.
- Mo Carthon dropped a perfectly placed pass from Meggett on a halfback option in the end zone because he lost the ball in the sun. Should have been a TD
- Mark Collins had an easy fumble recovery when Marshall killed Montana and if he got that ball, the Giants are in scoring position. Steve Wallace, with that crazy extra helmet thing for concussions got the ball
- On Gary Reasons' fake punt return, the Niners had 10 men on the field. If he doesn't run directly at John Taylor, he had a great chance of scoring on that play. What I loved about that fake punt, among the obvious, was Pat Summerall's call. Summerall was great as a deadpan announcer, but allowed the game and the fans to bring the intensity home. As Reasons burst through the line you could hear the excitement in his voice. He was so far in a way the best play by play man, in his prime, it's not funny, especially compared to what we have today.
- The Niner's lone TD came because Everson Walls misplayed a ball and went for a pick rather than just playing Taylor. If he plays the man, the Niners weren't really driving well on the Giants and I'm not sure if we would have seen them get a TD.
- Bahr kicked 5 FGs, but he also missed one. That's 6 trips in scoring territory against the Niners
That's why I think the football Gods stepped up and rewarded the Giants with the Craig fumble. The Giants were the better team that game and deserved to win. I liken it to the Favre pick in OT in 2007.
That game never should have gone into OT..Bradshaw scored..Zit was a bogus hold
Yup.
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NFLN started out so good doing just that. It's a shame they've turned into ESPN the Ocho for football.
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as I did that day. That's a classic - damn shame the NFL Network is so consumed with airing garbage and not great games from the past.
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NFLN started out so good doing just that. It's a shame they've turned into ESPN the Ocho for football.
They hired a bunch of former ESPN executives, it's not surprise that this has happened. And it's sad, networks cater to the LCD far too often.
- Mo Carthon dropped a perfectly placed pass from Meggett on a halfback option in the end zone because he lost the ball in the sun. Should have been a TD
- Mark Collins had an easy fumble recovery when Marshall killed Montana and if he got that ball, the Giants are in scoring position. Steve Wallace, with that crazy extra helmet thing for concussions got the ball
- On Gary Reasons' fake punt return, the Niners had 10 men on the field. If he doesn't run directly at John Taylor, he had a great chance of scoring on that play. What I loved about that fake punt, among the obvious, was Pat Summerall's call. Summerall was great as a deadpan announcer, but allowed the game and the fans to bring the intensity home. As Reasons burst through the line you could hear the excitement in his voice. He was so far in a way the best play by play man, in his prime, it's not funny, especially compared to what we have today.
- The Niner's lone TD came because Everson Walls misplayed a ball and went for a pick rather than just playing Taylor. If he plays the man, the Niners weren't really driving well on the Giants and I'm not sure if we would have seen them get a TD.
- Bahr kicked 5 FGs, but he also missed one. That's 6 trips in scoring territory against the Niners
That's why I think the football Gods stepped up and rewarded the Giants with the Craig fumble. The Giants were the better team that game and deserved to win. I liken it to the Favre pick in OT in 2007.
Great post Matt
NFLN could broadcast 3hrs of a pile of horseshit steaming in a pasture on a cold morning and people would tune in.
If they did more "Americas game" type stuff with classic games and matchup since the merger (there's hundreds to choose from, none lacking in compelling story lines), they'd be winning Emmy after Emmy. Imagine one for Kosar/Marty Browns, or the Rams of the 80's, the Cowboys of the 70's, Buddy Ryan's Eagles....the list goes on and on...
Further back, stories of Sammy Baugh- probably the greatest athlete to have played QB (who still holds records that will never be broken), the Giants game vs Notre Dame during the depression in which Mara donated all of the proceeds to the NYC unemployment fund and in which the Giants destroyed ND after Rockney famously told his players (including the famed four horsemen) that the Giants were big but slow- so score a few TD's early and then play keep away.
Just so many untapped storylines...such a shame.
Summerall and Madden were unmatched and in their prime. The setting in San Francisco was perfect.
The game had everything. Brutal hitting. Big plays. Trick plays. A legendary QB going for a three-peat vs. a career backup. A history-changing moment when Marshall pulverized Montana. A dramatic upset decided on the game's final play.
On George Young, my memory is he was lost when it came to the new salary cap age. Didn't he give Rodney Hampton an absurd deal which hamstrung us? And I loved RH
When I've rewatched those games, it hits me I really miss having linebackers like Banks, LT, Carson, Reasons, Pepper, DeOssie. Van Pelt was a little before my time, but same boat
- Mo Carthon dropped a perfectly placed pass from Meggett on a halfback option in the end zone because he lost the ball in the sun. Should have been a TD
- Mark Collins had an easy fumble recovery when Marshall killed Montana and if he got that ball, the Giants are in scoring position. Steve Wallace, with that crazy extra helmet thing for concussions got the ball
- On Gary Reasons' fake punt return, the Niners had 10 men on the field. If he doesn't run directly at John Taylor, he had a great chance of scoring on that play. What I loved about that fake punt, among the obvious, was Pat Summerall's call. Summerall was great as a deadpan announcer, but allowed the game and the fans to bring the intensity home. As Reasons burst through the line you could hear the excitement in his voice. He was so far in a way the best play by play man, in his prime, it's not funny, especially compared to what we have today.
- The Niner's lone TD came because Everson Walls misplayed a ball and went for a pick rather than just playing Taylor. If he plays the man, the Niners weren't really driving well on the Giants and I'm not sure if we would have seen them get a TD.
- Bahr kicked 5 FGs, but he also missed one. That's 6 trips in scoring territory against the Niners
That's why I think the football Gods stepped up and rewarded the Giants with the Craig fumble. The Giants were the better team that game and deserved to win. I liken it to the Favre pick in OT in 2007.
All great points.
I do remember another play in the game, late in the half, where Taylor or maybe Rice made a catch that wasn't a catch with Perry Williams defending (was instant replay take away for a few seasons?) And the 49ers ended up kicking a FG. I could be wrong.......
how did he adjust his kick based on the formation?
MattinSGS, great points. Does there exist a 1990 Giants Playoffs DVD anywhere? Would love to get hold of that.
As my mention of the Bruce Smith grab of Hostetler's wrist in yesterday's thread showed, my memory is a bit fuzzy (thought he avoided the safety), but I was glad others took that play up.
LT was the reason Montana got crushed there. He came flying into the backfield and Montana had to stop rolling out to avoid a sack. He had no reason to believe that wasn't a safe move, since Marshall had been blocked to the ground earlier that play.
Early in the first quarter, Montana wound up pulling his chin strap out of his mouth after a hit. Just before the hit that took him out of the game, Steve Young was standing on the sidelines with his helmet on. The hit itself blindsided Montana, but I think a lot of people felt that he was going to get knocked out of that game.
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And just seeing the Bills romp in the AFC Championship, the football world and smart money were going to give the Giants virtually no chance if they happened to get by the 49ers.
What a post-season that was. LOVE THE PARCELLS ERA LIKE NO OTHER
me too
He installed the 3- 4 and kaboom, things began to fall into place. When Perkins left to coach UAla, Parcells was at the time pretty much an unknown, worked for one year under Erhard and then Perkins one year. What an 'effin hire!!
Funny, giants.com just had a clip about this game, and Leonard Marshall came on and said that they felt Burt's hit was cheap and didn't sit well with them