Thomas vs. Chancellor vs. Sherman

I think Chancellor is the most important guy on the field. He gives them the best chance against containing Gronk. I wonder how much Earl Thomas will be limited with his injury, and it'll be interesting to see how NE will try to exploit him.

I'd go Chancellor, Thomas, and Sherman, but they are all awesome players.

In general

Sherman
Thomas
Cam

to Seattle in general (i.e. over the course of a season), I'd go Sherman, Thomas, Chancellor. A true shut-down CB is worth the money they command.

If we're talking about their value in this upcoming game, probably the reverse, but that's largely due to Gronk being NE's primary weapon and the average (at best) WRs they have which minimizes Sherman's importance. Granted his ability to matchup with Lafell or Edelman 1v1 allows the rest of the D more freedom to focus on Gronk.

Thomas
Sherman
Chancellor


However, if we're talking specifically about the Super Bowl, I would actually go:

Thomas
Chancellor
Sherman

Thomas's ability to take away the deep ball makes Chancellor and Sherman that much better in their own roles.

Thomas
Chancellor
Sherman

but my guess is that someone who knows defensive football would tell you that Thomas's exceptional ability to cover ground in the secondary allows the Seahawks a lot of freedom to do things elsewhere on their defense.

My guess is Thomas stirs the drink.

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Thomas

Sherman




Chancellor

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I agree with you, but had a question (knowing you "kinda" don't like Hokies; I have no skin in the game, not a VT alum or fan). IMO, Chancellor is the rare VT player that's seemed to flourish of late in the NFL versus the many failures. How do you feel about his play? I'd go out on a limb and say I sure wouldn't mind him on the Giants.

When Philly traded up in the draft, and there was lots of talk of them grabbing Thomas. End up getting Brandon Graham instead.

I was heartbroken when Seattle took Thomas one pick before us. He was my favorite player in that draft and I really thought we were going to take him.

He's awesome.

Chancellor is a straight up science lab experiment gone right. The dude is a freak.

Probably not popular but I would rank them:

Thomas
Chancellor
Sherman

And that doesn't mean I don't think Sherman is an excellent corner. He is. He's a cream of the crop CB. That's just how I'd "rank" them if I had to. I don't think I'd totally disagree with any combination.

but Sherman is the loud mouth so he'll be though of as being better.

Sherman
Thomas
Cam

I'd welcome him on the Giants

In comment 12116295 Greg from LI said:

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I'd welcome him on the Giants

Dude...I just felt the earth shake...hell must have frozen over.

The Seahawks secondary is one game away from going down as the greatest secondary of all-time

Especially if it's in dominant fashion like last year, I don't see who else gets the nod. Going through Peyton and Brady in back-to-back Super Bowls in this era is as good as it gets.

In comment 12116301 RC02XX said:

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In comment 12116295 Greg from LI said: Quote: I'd welcome him on the Giants Dude...I just felt the earth shake...hell must have frozen over.

Hah....I advocated drafting Kyle Fuller last year, and even Logan Thomas if he was willing to convert to playing TE.

Hosley pissed me off in an intense way because not only did he have exceedingly poor judgment in selecting a college team, I didn't think he'd be a quality NFL player. Score one for me!

In comment 12116328 Osix_ said:

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The Seahawks secondary is one game away from going down as the greatest secondary of all-time Especially if it's in dominant fashion like last year, I don't see who else gets the nod. Going through Peyton and Brady in back-to-back Super Bowls in this era is as good as it gets.

Disagree. ONE OF the best ever, maybe, but the '60s Lions had three Hall of Famers in their secondary - Night Train Lane, Dick LeBeau and Yale Lary. The '80s Niners with Ronnie Lott, Carlton Williamson, Eric Wright and Dwight Hicks are right there, alotoo.

Thank god that when Sanders, Green and Bailey were all Redskins, Sanders and Green were already past their primes and Bailey hadn't hit his yet. It was short lived anyway.. but those 3 in the same secondary all in their primes would have been insane.

I'm not really familiar with the all-time great secondaries in football. For some reason it's not as celebrated as the best Linebacker groups or best DLines.

But back to back years as the hands down #1 secondary in the sport including two Super Bowl wins over Peyton and Brady in THIS era? It's incredible what they're doing.

Sherman = Thomas




Chancellor. ..

Chancellor is a good to have but if you can't control the deep middle and X receiver then hitting hard Isn't as useful. .

But they have a ways to go to match Lane-LeBeau-Lary. Those guys combined for 182 picks, 19 Pro Bowls, and 6 first team All Pro selections.

In comment 12116182 Greg from LI said:

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He's amazing. After a healthy Darelle Revis, I think Thomas is the best DB in football. Definitely the best Safety at this point IMO by a large margin.

In comment 12116358 Greg from LI said:

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In comment 12116328 Osix_ said: Quote: The Seahawks secondary is one game away from going down as the greatest secondary of all-time Especially if it's in dominant fashion like last year, I don't see who else gets the nod. Going through Peyton and Brady in back-to-back Super Bowls in this era is as good as it gets. Disagree. ONE OF the best ever, maybe, but the '60s Lions had three Hall of Famers in their secondary - Night Train Lane, Dick LeBeau and Yale Lary. The '80s Niners with Ronnie Lott, Carlton Williamson, Eric Wright and Dwight Hicks are right there, alotoo.

. And the next 9ers' secondary was great too with McKyer, Wright, Lott and Fuller. The most important single element is often the FS.

ALL TIME #1ALL TIME #21ST ROUND BY TEAMFULL DRAFT YEAR | TEAM | POSITION | ALPHABETICALLY | SCHOOL
FILTER
2010 - ROUND 1
SEL # TEAM PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 St. Louis Rams Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma
2 Detroit Lions Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska
3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma
4 Washington Redskins Trent Williams T Oklahoma
5 Kansas City Chiefs Eric Berry SS Tennessee
6 Seattle Seahawks Russell Okung T Oklahoma State
7 Cleveland Browns Joe Haden CB Florida
8 Oakland Raiders Rolando McClain MLB Alabama
9 Buffalo Bills C.J. Spiller RB Clemson
10 Jacksonville Jaguars Tyson Alualu DT California
11 San Francisco 49ers Anthony Davis T Rutgers
12 San Diego Chargers Ryan Mathews RB Fresno State
13 Philadelphia Eagles Brandon Graham DE Michigan
14 Seattle Seahawks Earl Thomas FS Texas
15 New York Giants Jason Pierre-Paul DE South Florida
16 Tennessee Titans Derrick Morgan DE Georgia Tech
17 San Francisco 49ers Mike Iupati G Idaho
18 Pittsburgh Steelers Maurkice Pouncey C Florida
19 Atlanta Falcons Sean Weatherspoon OLB Missouri
20 Houston Texans Kareem Jackson CB Alabama
21 Cincinnati Bengals Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma
22 Denver Broncos Demaryius Thomas WR Georgia Tech
23 Green Bay Packers Bryan Bulaga T Iowa
24 Dallas Cowboys Dez Bryant WR Oklahoma State
25 Denver Broncos Tim Tebow QB Florida
26 Arizona Cardinals Dan Williams DT Tennessee
27 New England Patriots Devin McCourty CB Rutgers
28 Miami Dolphins Jared Odrick DE Penn State
29 New York Jets Kyle Wilson CB Boise State
30 Detroit Lions Jahvid Best RB California
31 Indianapolis Colts Jerry Hughes DE Texas Christian
32 New Orleans Saints Patrick Robinson CB Florida State

And he talks about the LOB and the difficulties in his job. You see Sherman make a play, well, there's a reason.

The other DB gets backup from Earl Thomas, who runs away from Sherman's side. Earl gets backup from Kam, and Sherman is begging you to throw the ball his way. He's the only defender on the field without a backup.

If one of the safeties is pulled away from sort of pushing the play to one of the DBs, the backfield is more vulnerable.

In this case Sherman is the most important, Thomas is responsible for a couple of players and so is Kam. This weekend it's Sherman, Chancellor and then Thomas.