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NFT: Vax your children against the measles or find another doctor

sphinx : 1/30/2015 9:59 pm
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"That's why I took the stance, believe your doctor, listen to your doctor, not the Internet, or go somewhere else," Dr. Goodman said.

Thank you, Gr Goodman - ( New Window )
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Why are fundie Christians getting dragged into this?  
Greg from LI : 2/3/2015 12:56 pm : link
The anti-vaccine crowd is largely comprised of rich lefty neo-hippies, which is why Southern California has vaccination rates on a par with Chad.
Greg from LI  
BobOnLI : 2/3/2015 1:10 pm : link
It may not be fair but fundamentalist Christians are thought of as the anti-science crowd and so would be thought to be anti-vacine (even if they aren't over represented).
There could be some overlap  
buford : 2/3/2015 1:28 pm : link
but most of the anti-vaccers are rich upper class and liberal. Read the links in this thread.
RE: Greg from LI  
santacruzom : 2/3/2015 1:57 pm : link
In comment 12122417 BobOnLI said:
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It may not be fair but fundamentalist Christians are thought of as the anti-science crowd and so would be thought to be anti-vacine (even if they aren't over represented).


Again, I don't think skepticism towards vaccination stems from being "anti-science." It's more the result of caution, skepticism, or outright paranoia towards chemicals, the companies who manufacture them, and/or the processes and mechanisms that approve their safety.
RE: RE: Greg from LI  
Chris in Philly : 2/3/2015 2:01 pm : link
In comment 12122510 santacruzom said:
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It may not be fair but fundamentalist Christians are thought of as the anti-science crowd and so would be thought to be anti-vacine (even if they aren't over represented).



Again, I don't think skepticism towards vaccination stems from being "anti-science." It's more the result of caution, skepticism, or outright paranoia towards chemicals, the companies who manufacture them, and/or the processes and mechanisms that approve their safety.


And that is stupid.
RE: RE: Greg from LI  
RC02XX : 2/3/2015 2:08 pm : link
In comment 12122510 santacruzom said:
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Again, I don't think skepticism towards vaccination stems from being "anti-science." It's more the result of caution, skepticism, or outright paranoia towards chemicals, the companies who manufacture them, and/or the processes and mechanisms that approve their safety.


I'm not sure that it isn't anti-science when the scientific community at large has stated the importance and safe-nature of vaccination but you still disregard it because of something you read online or something someone from your mom's group told you. That in essence is anti-science.
Healthy skepticism would be  
kicker : 2/3/2015 2:09 pm : link
not taking an Ebola vaccine.

There is no healthy skepticism about most current vaccinations. They have DECADES of peer-reviewed studies (by individuals beyond governmental authority), and have come to the same conclusions.

It's willful ignorance at this point.
look at the spike in cases  
steve in ky : 2/3/2015 2:19 pm : link
I wonder if this has to do with the  
buford : 2/3/2015 2:26 pm : link
influx of child immigrants? There was talk at the time that many were not vaccinated and had measles.
I bet with this type of increase  
steve in ky : 2/3/2015 2:29 pm : link
we will see an increase in parents vaccinating their children. Lets be perfectly honest. There are probably plenty that had only small reservations about having their children vaccinated and figured the likelihood of them ever getting something like measles was highly improbable so why take the risk. Once it becomes apparent that there is a greater possibility of their child contracting the decease that fear will surpass the small fear of having them vaccinated.

To an extent IMO many were being selfish and counting on the rest of the population to take care o the problem and they could free ride along with the herd. But they will be now be more scared that isn't working any longer and act in their own self interest as a result.

Of course there always will be others that nothing will convince.
RE: I wonder if this has to do with the  
Chris in Philly : 2/3/2015 2:30 pm : link
In comment 12122592 buford said:
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influx of child immigrants? There was talk at the time that many were not vaccinated and had measles.


When in doubt, blame the Mexicans...
RE: I wonder if this has to do with the  
steve in ky : 2/3/2015 2:31 pm : link
In comment 12122592 buford said:
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influx of child immigrants? There was talk at the time that many were not vaccinated and had measles.


I don't know, but even if so I doubt too many immigrants have the wherewithal to enroll their children in private schooling or homeschool so this would be easily solved it all schools made certain every student has been vaccinated prior to allowing entrance.
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buford : 2/3/2015 2:34 pm : link
In comment 12122608 Chris in Philly said:
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influx of child immigrants? There was talk at the time that many were not vaccinated and had measles.



When in doubt, blame the Mexicans...


Most of the immigrants were not Mexicans.
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Chris in Philly : 2/3/2015 2:36 pm : link
In comment 12122619 buford said:
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influx of child immigrants? There was talk at the time that many were not vaccinated and had measles.



When in doubt, blame the Mexicans...



Most of the immigrants were not Mexicans.


Sorry, when in doubt blame the dark people.
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RC02XX : 2/3/2015 2:37 pm : link
In comment 12122622 Chris in Philly said:
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Sorry, when in doubt blame the dark people.


Am I considered dark? Or just have a bit of yellowish tint? You can blame me if you like.
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Chris in Philly : 2/3/2015 2:38 pm : link
In comment 12122625 RC02XX said:
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Sorry, when in doubt blame the dark people.



Am I considered dark? Or just have a bit of yellowish tint? You can blame me if you like.


Yes, but you get a pass because you burn the huts of other ones. Net gain for whitey.
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MadPlaid : 2/3/2015 2:41 pm : link
In comment 12122626 Chris in Philly said:
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Sorry, when in doubt blame the dark people.



Am I considered dark? Or just have a bit of yellowish tint? You can blame me if you like.



Yes, but you get a pass because you burn the huts of other ones. Net gain for whitey.

Is it wrong I found this hilarious?
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buford : 2/3/2015 2:42 pm : link
In comment 12122625 RC02XX said:
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Sorry, when in doubt blame the dark people.



Am I considered dark? Or just have a bit of yellowish tint? You can blame me if you like.


I think I'm darker than you but olive, not yellow.
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RC02XX : 2/3/2015 2:45 pm : link
In comment 12122626 Chris in Philly said:
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Yes, but you get a pass because you burn the huts of other ones. Net gain for whitey.


Ugh...so I'm doing the dirty work for The Man? WTF?
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Chris in Philly : 2/3/2015 2:46 pm : link
In comment 12122644 RC02XX said:
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Yes, but you get a pass because you burn the huts of other ones. Net gain for whitey.



Ugh...so I'm doing the dirty work for The Man? WTF?


It's aways hard when you first see the light.
I thought Koreans count as the Man, too  
Greg from LI : 2/3/2015 2:47 pm : link
At least they did when I listened to Ice Cube albums in the '90s.
RE: RE: RE: Greg from LI  
santacruzom : 2/3/2015 2:48 pm : link
In comment 12122544 RC02XX said:
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Again, I don't think skepticism towards vaccination stems from being "anti-science." It's more the result of caution, skepticism, or outright paranoia towards chemicals, the companies who manufacture them, and/or the processes and mechanisms that approve their safety.



I'm not sure that it isn't anti-science when the scientific community at large has stated the importance and safe-nature of vaccination but you still disregard it because of something you read online or something someone from your mom's group told you. That in essence is anti-science.


That's certainly true when applied towards those who think they know vaccines cause more harm than good, especially when the basis of this supposed knowledge tends to be an alarmist website or Twitter post.

Shit, I don't want to make it sound like I'm sticking up for these guys anymore. I just don't like reflexive "anti-___________!" accusations being tossed about when there are other considerations, which probably leads to a reflexive reaction on my own part, and I'm stopping.
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Bill L : 2/3/2015 2:50 pm : link
In comment 12122625 RC02XX said:
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Sorry, when in doubt blame the dark people.



Am I considered dark? Or just have a bit of yellowish tint? You can blame me if you like.


You look like you could be Hepatitis Ronnie...
RE: I thought Koreans count as the Man, too  
RC02XX : 2/3/2015 2:51 pm : link
In comment 12122647 Greg from LI said:
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At least they did when I listened to Ice Cube albums in the '90s.


I call bullshit! I can't picture you being all gangsta in the 90s.

And I never listened to Ice Cube in the 90s...I was more into country then (that's what you get when you lived in Oklahoma and Texas).
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RC02XX : 2/3/2015 2:52 pm : link
In comment 12122657 Bill L said:
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Sorry, when in doubt blame the dark people.



Am I considered dark? Or just have a bit of yellowish tint? You can blame me if you like.



You look like you could be Hepatitis Ronnie...


Not Hepatitis...just a little jaundiced.
I keep it real, dawg  
Greg from LI : 2/3/2015 2:54 pm : link
Besides, I just listened to it. It was angry music suitable for an angry teenager.
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Bill L : 2/3/2015 2:57 pm : link
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Sorry, when in doubt blame the dark people.



Am I considered dark? Or just have a bit of yellowish tint? You can blame me if you like.



You look like you could be Hepatitis Ronnie...



Not Hepatitis...just a little jaundiced.


I tell that jaundiced joke all the time about me. Nobody ever seems to get it.
A good portion of immigrants from Latin America  
kicker : 2/3/2015 2:59 pm : link
are vaccinated. In fact, Guatemalan kids are more likely to be vaccinated than Texans.

Of course, that doesn't stop wild speculation when a simple Google search would have revealed the answer...
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RB^2 : 2/3/2015 3:02 pm : link
In comment 12122625 RC02XX said:
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Sorry, when in doubt blame the dark people.



Am I considered dark? Or just have a bit of yellowish tint? You can blame me if you like.

You couldn't pull off an epidemic because you rack disciprine.
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BMac : 2/3/2015 3:09 pm : link
In comment 12122625 RC02XX said:
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Sorry, when in doubt blame the dark people.



Am I considered dark? Or just have a bit of yellowish tint? You can blame me if you like.


Hey, it isn't our fault you have liver problems! You should have gotten the Hep-B vaccine.
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RC02XX : 2/3/2015 3:15 pm : link
In comment 12122714 BMac said:
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Hey, it isn't our fault you have liver problems! You should have gotten the Hep-B vaccine.


Actually it's because my liver has taken a beating from all of the fire water...don't you know, Koreans are considered the Irish of East Asia?
you start singing songs  
fkap : 2/3/2015 3:47 pm : link
when you drink riquor?
oh dang,  
fkap : 2/3/2015 3:48 pm : link
RB beat me to the bad pun.
RE: you start singing songs  
RC02XX : 2/3/2015 3:48 pm : link
In comment 12122799 fkap said:
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when you drink riquor?


Greatest karaoke singer ever ---> This Guy
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BMac : 2/3/2015 3:49 pm : link
In comment 12122730 RC02XX said:
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Hey, it isn't our fault you have liver problems! You should have gotten the Hep-B vaccine.



Actually it's because my liver has taken a beating from all of the fire water...don't you know, Koreans are considered the Irish of East Asia?


Then I guess we'll have to start calling you O'Ronnie? Was your mother from Killarney?
RC02XX  
Headhunter : 2/3/2015 4:09 pm : link
I don't know whether to commend you or shake my head. If T-Bone or other Black posters had to put up with Ebonics printed every 5th thread, I think it would stop being funny. Why you put up with it is your business, but enough is enough
Oh please...  
Bill L : 2/3/2015 4:20 pm : link
.
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Greg from LI : 2/3/2015 4:22 pm : link
In comment 12122807 BMac said:
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Then I guess we'll have to start calling you O'Ronnie? Was your mother from Killarney?


Hah....brings to mind a scene from The Ref:

-Dr. Wong? You don't look like a Wong.

Well, my mother was Irish.

-And your father?

Wasn't.
Bill L  
Headhunter : 2/3/2015 4:27 pm : link
Oh please what?
RE: Bill L  
Greg from LI : 2/3/2015 4:33 pm : link
In comment 12122853 Headhunter said:
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I eat paste


Interesting....
Please continue  
Bill L : 2/3/2015 4:33 pm : link
I could listen to you impassioned outrage about your people for literally minutes at a time. It's wonderful.
Bill L  
Headhunter : 2/3/2015 4:36 pm : link
I don't give a fuck what you like, what you don't like. What your favorite TV show is What the last book you read, whether you are into women or men. In other words I don't give a fuck about you
RE: Bill L  
Bill L : 2/3/2015 4:38 pm : link
In comment 12122862 Headhunter said:
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I don't give a fuck what you like, what you don't like. What your favorite TV show is What the last book you read, whether you are into women or men. In other words I don't give a fuck about you


See, and I was complimenting you too.
I apologize RC  
fkap : 2/3/2015 4:42 pm : link
I shouldn't belittle your nationality while you're busy making fun of the Irish. :)
Again  
Headhunter : 2/3/2015 4:43 pm : link
in the clearest possible terms in lieu of drawing you pictures, go on with whatever it is that you do while you are awake and good luck with whatever it is. I mean that with all the sincerity I can muster typing
Headhunter  
RB^2 : 2/3/2015 4:46 pm : link
needs to rearn to rerax.
But I totally get how Korea  
RB^2 : 2/3/2015 4:49 pm : link
is like the Ireland of East Asia. Both of them even have a North(ern) section, so that pretty much seals it.
Just once  
Headhunter : 2/3/2015 4:49 pm : link
someone surprise me with something original and funny instead of tired stereotyping. Wow I'll replace L's with R's, I am a funny dude. No you're not
I know that you don't give a fuck about my favorite tv show  
Bill L : 2/3/2015 4:54 pm : link
but one year we should get together and watch "A Christmas Story". It's a favorite yuletide movie of mine and we can share a cup of egg nog and maybe spoon or something. Just to be in a happy place.
If you can't laugh at the absurd but harmless stereotyping of race,  
RC02XX : 2/3/2015 4:55 pm : link
You're going to get pissed off a lot. If people want to actuallu get racist, Im sure my response will be a bit different, but are these ribbing really something to get offended by? Not to me.
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