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Giants.com "Building Blocks" Video on Adrien Robinson

Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/5/2015 11:43 am
cue the jokes...
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Our foundation  
Jan in DC : 2/5/2015 11:47 am : link
is rotted.
Tom  
area junc : 2/5/2015 11:48 am : link
is still high on him
Jerry Reese did this kid a disservice  
blueblood : 2/5/2015 11:53 am : link
calling him the JPP of TE's. It made so many people expect instant production and domination.. when he really meant that he was very raw with athletic ability.
The only ability I have seen  
averagejoe : 2/5/2015 12:02 pm : link
is the ability to draw a good salary for no reason. A waste of a roster spot.
Realistically, based on his college career  
Bob in Newburgh : 2/5/2015 12:08 pm : link
This was going to be a 2 years in development player under a best case scenario. Reese did not properly factor this into using a 4th rd. in selecting him.

Best case did not happen, I think largely due to injuries in 2013. He is only 1 year behind schedule, but because of the CBA 2015 is a critical year. Because he will be a UFA after next season, Giant fans have to hope he does well, sort of.
RE: Tom  
MookGiants : 2/5/2015 12:11 pm : link
In comment 12125252 area junc said:
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is still high on him


So high on him that he barely saw the field in his 3rd season
Typical reach  
TMS : 2/5/2015 12:22 pm : link
by Reese and Ross based on measurables and this need to outsmart everyone by finding a steal. We blew a lot of draft picks because of this tendency. Think Reese was called out on this a few years ago and it may be over now. Still don't get the Bromley pick in the third round though. We will see if that works out next season.
Scholarship culture  
Optimus-NY : 2/5/2015 12:24 pm : link
This scrub will get 4 years even though he doesn't deserve 2. Hosley and Teddy Bear Brewer are the same. That scrub Mosley belongs in this group as well.
Must have been a slow day at the Timex  
ghost718 : 2/5/2015 12:33 pm : link
Choices were either do this segment,or replace the water jug.
It was a 4th round pick  
KWALL2 : 2/5/2015 12:37 pm : link
not a "reach". Check out the 10 players drafted after Robinson. Are they all reaches and bad picks by these GMs?

Robinson was a 6'4" 260lb TE with a 40" vertical and 4.5 40. It was a pick on a rare athlete they felt they could develop. Nothing wrong with going that route at the bottom of round 4.
by the end of year 3  
fkap : 2/5/2015 12:38 pm : link
AR should have been starting to show he's got what it takes. Instead, he was invisible once again, known more for the JPP comparison than anything he's done in the pros.

As TMS said, he's another attempt by Reese to outsmart everyone by going for hidden 'gems' or going for injury diminished players thinking they'll have a rebound career. the tendency is one of the reasons the Giants are a subpar team.
Why do people  
KWALL2 : 2/5/2015 12:42 pm : link
rip picks based on athletic ability in round 4?

Is it better to pick the round 4 guy with college production that won't translate in NFL?

Again, look at the next 10-20 picks AFTER Robinson was picked in that 4th round. It's slim pickings.

The success rate of a low 4th round pick is very low. Enough of ripping Reese on the pick. Inform yourself about the success rate in this round and the options that were picked immediately after this player.
I wished the Giants  
mrvax : 2/5/2015 12:47 pm : link
cut him after camp last year and kept the Terminator, John Connor.
nah, the horse is dead. stop whipping him.  
Victor in CT : 2/5/2015 12:50 pm : link
..
He doesn't even look that athletic to me  
debo_GIANTS : 2/5/2015 12:54 pm : link
If he actually looked like Tarzan, but played like Jane I would give Reese the benefit of the doubt and agree it was worth a 4th round gamble.

This feels like nothing more than a justification of a draft pick  
#10* : 2/5/2015 1:01 pm : link
slash sell him to the fanbase type solution so they won't get hammered for not picking up another one in the draft.


NOTE TO GIANTS: Eli loves his TE's. So SUPPLY him with ONE.

WR not nearly as big of a need no matter where we pick or who's available. Who cares if I have 4 great eggs if I don't have any bacon. Get us some bacon!
KWALL2  
fkap : 2/5/2015 1:05 pm : link
while it's not a round you expect to find your starters, 4th is a round you should hope to get some production out of. No guarantees, of course. Teams are built with lunchpail backups/contributors, and there are reasonable expectations that 4th rounders can be such players. AR, like many of Reese's mid round picks are guys who only play if all other options are exhausted.

So, while 4th round picks aren't sell your grandmother valuable, they aren't as throwaway as you seem to make it.
Mad....  
Emlen'sGremlins : 2/5/2015 1:14 pm : link
....Maxx!!
RE: Mad....  
Big Blue '56 : 2/5/2015 1:56 pm : link
In comment 12125409 Emlen'sGremlins said:
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....Maxx!!


In case you missed it on the other thread, iirc, last year you said,

"Eric Ebron!"
Martellus Bennett  
bumpsinthenight : 2/5/2015 2:01 pm : link
Not say he is as good as Bennett but Martellus didn't become the player he is now in the first three seasons. Granted is behind the HoF in Witten.

There might be time for Robinson to develop.
I don't know if Adrien Robinson is a good football player  
Headhunter : 2/5/2015 2:23 pm : link
what I do know is that you people don't know either.
Wow  
gidiefor : Mod : 2/5/2015 4:05 pm : link
That's a terribly inaccurate short pass by Eli to Robinson in that video.

Unbelievable! : )
As a hard core Giiants fan  
SGMen : 2/5/2015 4:13 pm : link
I have high hopes that the coaches see the talent, are developing it, and he will blossom in year 2 as a top tight end. He has the physical tools but was so raw coming out that yes he needed two years to develop.

He missed his rookie OTA's due to college classes. His missed his second year basically due to injury. He was healthy this year and was learning a new offense.

Personally, I'm praying he just busts out. I saw flashes in the pre-season when he went deep down the seem. If he has a strong camp I really hope he produces in his 4th year. Remember, it was Strahan & Toomer who both really busted out in their fourth years.
Yes, I did.  
Emlen'sGremlins : 2/5/2015 4:40 pm : link
And One Year Later We Still Desperately Need A Tight end.
RE: Yes, I did.  
Big Blue '56 : 2/5/2015 4:42 pm : link
In comment 12125693 Emlen'sGremlins said:
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And One Year Later We Still Desperately Need A Tight end.


One, we don't desperately need one..

Two, if your wish were granted, there'd be no OBJ
three  
chris r : 2/5/2015 4:45 pm : link
why are we capitalizing every word?
I just don't think he has the ability to learn the plays or  
Marty in Albany : 2/5/2015 6:24 pm : link
learn whom to block. I really think it is mental not physical.

RE: I just don't think he has the ability to learn the plays or  
SGMen : 2/5/2015 7:12 pm : link
In comment 12125816 Marty in Albany said:
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learn whom to block. I really think it is mental not physical.
The mental part of the game, the instincts as you will, can be taught to a degree but yeah either the player has it in him or he doesn't. Track stars often don't make great players because they simply don't know thee game, how to get open, and all that. Physical talent means a lot but it isn't everything.
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