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Headhunter : 2/11/2015 4:54 pm
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RE: BMac  
BMac : 2/19/2015 6:21 pm : link
In comment 12143894 Wuphat said:
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The Lake Erie thread is what's referred to


Thanks Wuphat and CTC!
Evolutionist Bingo  
Rob in CT/NYC : 2/19/2015 6:23 pm : link
Dinosaur soft tissue.
Peter, your only redeeming quality here is throwing slabs of meat  
David in LA : 2/19/2015 6:27 pm : link
on a grill. Outside of that, you're a miserable piece of shit. Hope you have a wonderful day.
And now this tool quotes Mary Schweitzer?  
Chris in Philly : 2/19/2015 6:28 pm : link
"Young-earth creationists also see Schweitzer’s work as revolutionary, but in an entirely different way. They first seized upon Schweitzer’s work after she wrote an article for the popular science magazine Earth in 1997 about possible red blood cells in her dinosaur specimens. Creation magazine claimed that Schweitzer’s research was “powerful testimony against the whole idea of dinosaurs living millions of years ago. It speaks volumes for the Bible’s account of a recent creation."

This drives Schweitzer crazy. Geologists have established that the Hell Creek Formation, where B. rex was found, is 68 million years old, and so are the bones buried in it. She’s horrified that some Christians accuse her of hiding the true meaning of her data. “They treat you really bad,” she says. “They twist your words and they manipulate your data.”
The scientific community at large doesn't seem to believe  
RB^2 : 2/19/2015 6:28 pm : link
Those example refute evolution or the age of the world at large. Why?
RE: And now this tool quotes Mary Schweitzer?  
Big Al : 2/19/2015 6:37 pm : link
In comment 12143940 Chris in Philly said:
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"Young-earth creationists also see Schweitzer’s work as revolutionary, but in an entirely different way. They first seized upon Schweitzer’s work after she wrote an article for the popular science magazine Earth in 1997 about possible red blood cells in her dinosaur specimens. Creation magazine claimed that Schweitzer’s research was “powerful testimony against the whole idea of dinosaurs living millions of years ago. It speaks volumes for the Bible’s account of a recent creation."

This drives Schweitzer crazy. Geologists have established that the Hell Creek Formation, where B. rex was found, is 68 million years old, and so are the bones buried in it. She’s horrified that some Christians accuse her of hiding the true meaning of her data. “They treat you really bad,” she says. “They twist your words and they manipulate your data.”
A renowned scientist like Enoch would never do that.
Peter in Atl  
Headhunter : 2/19/2015 6:41 pm : link
The missing link himself
Ive usually found that if Peter is pissing me off..  
Davisian : 2/19/2015 6:49 pm : link
I might have it coming..

Do you want a  
Headhunter : 2/19/2015 6:51 pm : link
cookie?
Seriously, some of you guys with the quoting.  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/19/2015 6:55 pm : link


Just grab a snippet!
RE: Peter in Atl  
Chris in Philly : 2/19/2015 7:03 pm : link
In comment 12143953 Headhunter said:
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The missing link himself


Was it getting to you that the thread wasn't about you anymore?
Lot of mileage for a Copypasta troll....  
UAGiant : 2/19/2015 7:11 pm : link
RE: RE: RE: jesus fucking chrsit  
Enoch2021 : 2/19/2015 7:13 pm : link
In comment 12143919 Sonic Youth said:
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[quote]a dictionary definition, but it's already been explained to you that just because that is the common definition of science (one that's literally used to teach middle schoolers)


And you still can't understand it.


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Let's take a closer look at Lewin: First of all, what he's saying is that there isn't macroevolution - but in the way biologists use the term, not the way idiots like creationists do. In the actual scientific community, contending that macroevolution doesn't exist DOESNT' mean that it's not possible; it means that evolution occurs at a different scale with no boundary between the two. Macroevolution in biology = evolution of organisms at a higher taxonomic level.


You're in dreamland.

Read this slowly...

"In a review of Defending Evolution (Alters and Alters, 2001), a book highly recommended “by such eminent evolutionists as Ernst Mayr and Stephen J. Gould ... [and] Eugenie C. Scott,” Morris (2001) concludes that their defense of Darwinism fails because...it focuses almost exclusively on defending micro-evolution (what creationists call adaptive variation), whereas it is only macroevolution that creationists reject in the first place. Essentially only three pages of the book (pp. 117–119) are devoted to defending macroevolution, and the concluding sentence of this section simply complains that it is “unreasonable” to expect observational evidence of macroevolution, since this does not follow the “normal procedures used in historical science research.” That is true of course, but then why call it science? (p. 1)
Morris, H., How not to defend evolution. Back to Genesis 153:1, pg 1, September 2001


Can you please proffer a "Mechanism" for Macro-evolution please...? Should we wait?

Let's start off by you explaining the "evolution" of Prokaryotes to Eukaryotes (Single Celled Organisms) with Transcription and Translation (Before you jump all incoherently into Multi-Celled Organisms) ?


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The guy you fucking quoted literally wrote an article a few years later saying that creationism has absolutely no scientific basis. And this is the fucking guy you think backs up your statements?


Yes and...lol? I didn't quote him for his beliefs/Faith, I quoted him for his expertise on Macro to Micro. 99% of the time, I use atheists/evolutionists for support (Hostile Witnesses are the Best). Don't really care what he "BELIEVES" only what he can "PROVE". Savvy?

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IF ANYONE GOOGLE SEARCHES ANYONE YOU CITE, YOU FIND THEY ALL DO NOT SUPPORT CREATIONISM!


EXACTLY, ain't it KOOL?

Thanks for Illustrating using a Hammer to put out a c4 Fire

regards
The only recognized distinction between  
Wuphat : 2/19/2015 7:22 pm : link
what cdesign proponentsists call micro and macro evolution is time.

The scientific community that understands what they fuck they're doing just call it all evolution.

Because it's all the same mechanisms.
RE: RE: And now this tool quotes Mary Schweitzer?  
Enoch2021 : 2/19/2015 7:23 pm : link
In comment 12143947 Big Al said:
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In comment 12143940 Chris in Philly said:


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"Young-earth creationists also see Schweitzer’s work as revolutionary, but in an entirely different way. They first seized upon Schweitzer’s work after she wrote an article for the popular science magazine Earth in 1997 about possible red blood cells in her dinosaur specimens. Creation magazine claimed that Schweitzer’s research was “powerful testimony against the whole idea of dinosaurs living millions of years ago. It speaks volumes for the Bible’s account of a recent creation."

This drives Schweitzer crazy. Geologists have established that the Hell Creek Formation, where B. rex was found, is 68 million years old, and so are the bones buried in it. She’s horrified that some Christians accuse her of hiding the true meaning of her data. “They treat you really bad,” she says. “They twist your words and they manipulate your data.”

A renowned scientist like Enoch would never do that.



And.....? Does she like Blue-Berry Pie also.

Did those "Creationists" manipulate these...







Maybe if she stopped "clinging" to the Fairytale "Millions of Years" that a 2nd grader would laugh @ people might be more receptive, eh?

regards

Hahaha, I love Circus Music!  
Shepherdsam : 2/19/2015 7:23 pm : link


Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Of course, if one's position  
Wuphat : 2/19/2015 7:25 pm : link
is married to the idiotic idea that the earth is only thousands of years old and not billions, the need to draw such a distinction between micro and macro becomes imperative to the cause.

The best part of this troll  
Rob in CT/NYC : 2/19/2015 7:25 pm : link
Is his complete lack of self-awareness. His theory of creation is "God said let there be light.". Of course, he doesn't attempt to apply any of his pseudo-scientific standards to the fucking fairy tale he has embraced as "science".

His preferred theory doesn't pass the giggle test of sane society, but he seems to have plenty of time to try and cast doubt upon the methodology, evidence and conclusions of legitimate scientists (you know, the ones he believes are the work of the devil).

RE: RE: RE: And now this tool quotes Mary Schweitzer?  
Big Al : 2/19/2015 7:28 pm : link
In comment 12144009 Enoch2021 said:
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In comment 12143947 Big Al said:


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In comment 12143940 Chris in Philly said:


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"Young-earth creationists also see Schweitzer’s work as revolutionary, but in an entirely different way. They first seized upon Schweitzer’s work after she wrote an article for the popular science magazine Earth in 1997 about possible red blood cells in her dinosaur specimens. Creation magazine claimed that Schweitzer’s research was “powerful testimony against the whole idea of dinosaurs living millions of years ago. It speaks volumes for the Bible’s account of a recent creation."

This drives Schweitzer crazy. Geologists have established that the Hell Creek Formation, where B. rex was found, is 68 million years old, and so are the bones buried in it. She’s horrified that some Christians accuse her of hiding the true meaning of her data. “They treat you really bad,” she says. “They twist your words and they manipulate your data.”

A renowned scientist like Enoch would never do that.




And.....? Does she like Blue-Berry Pie also.

Did those "Creationists" manipulate these...







Maybe if she stopped "clinging" to the Fairytale "Millions of Years" that a 2nd grader would laugh @ people might be more receptive, eh?

regards
Agreed that the optimum audience for creationism is 2nd graders.
RE: The only recognized distinction between  
Enoch2021 : 2/19/2015 7:29 pm : link
In comment 12144008 Wuphat said:
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what cdesign proponentsists call micro and macro evolution is time.

The scientific community that understands what they fuck they're doing just call it all evolution.

Because it's all the same mechanisms.


Time is a mechanism, eh? Is that your final answer? Can you put some in a Jar and Paint it Red for us?

Let me ask you, does Entropy, speaking to 2LOT (2nd Law of Thermodynamics), Increase or Decrease with TIME?

So you're saying the change in Allele Frequency can turn Bacteria into Giraffes? Please, the floor is yours....?

regards
It's such an interesting delusion  
Rob in CT/NYC : 2/19/2015 7:29 pm : link
That these young earth creationists embrace - how a book, whose contents were selected by men largely to support a political and social system in the 2nd century AD became the foundational document for leading a life 2,000 years later is an embarrassment to progress.
The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics only applies to closed  
Wuphat : 2/19/2015 7:31 pm : link
systems.

The Earth is not a closed system.

Bingo!  
Rob in CT/NYC : 2/19/2015 7:31 pm : link
Second law of thermodynamics.

I at least hope that Spock is giving up the balloon knot to Enoch for all the time he has spent here...
RE: RE: The only recognized distinction between  
Big Al : 2/19/2015 7:36 pm : link
In comment 12144031 Enoch2021 said:
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In comment 12144008 Wuphat said:


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what cdesign proponentsists call micro and macro evolution is time.

The scientific community that understands what they fuck they're doing just call it all evolution.

Because it's all the same mechanisms.



Time is a mechanism, eh? Is that your final answer? Can you put some in a Jar and Paint it Red for us?

Let me ask you, does Entropy, speaking to 2LOT (2nd Law of Thermodynamics), Increase or Decrease with TIME?

So you're saying the change in Allele Frequency can turn Bacteria into Giraffes? Please, the floor is yours....?

regards
I was surprised that it took this long for you to bring up the bogus second law argument. I guess that you are also a scholar on thermodynamics.
At this point,  
Mr. Bungle : 2/19/2015 7:37 pm : link
is "regards" even necessary?
I'm not sure if I'm sad because Enoch seems like one of those  
RC02XX : 2/19/2015 7:39 pm : link
Really simple guys that others laugh at and we're being mean by laughing at him...it because he's actually an adult, who has the mental capacity of a child and a petulant idiotic child at that. Not sure which is actually sadder.

And someone actually let this guy carry a firearm in the military? I'm surprised that he didn't accidentally off himself with how challenged he seems to be.
RE: I'm not sure if I'm sad because Enoch seems like one of those  
Chris in Philly : 2/19/2015 7:44 pm : link
In comment 12144060 RC02XX said:
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Really simple guys that others laugh at and we're being mean by laughing at him...it because he's actually an adult, who has the mental capacity of a child and a petulant idiotic child at that. Not sure which is actually sadder.

And someone actually let this guy carry a firearm in the military? I'm surprised that he didn't accidentally off himself with how challenged he seems to be.


Why would you believe he was in the military? He's full of shit on everything else he posts.
Enoch, you never answered my question.  
manh george : 2/19/2015 7:50 pm : link
Is what Stephan Hawking and Neil DeGrasse Tyson do science, in your world view? They don't do experiments, either, for the most part. Hard to experiment on a galaxy 100 million light years away, where you are seeing what went on 100 million years ago.

Oh, I forgot, the earth is only 7,000 years old, so that's only an illusion God created to fool cosmologists.


Or do you have another theory on that? (Can't wait.)
I can't feel an iota of pity  
Headhunter : 2/19/2015 7:52 pm : link
for a Sandy Hook denier who in turn if you scratch deep enough is probably a Holacaust denier. This fucking emperor has no clothes and the whole world sees it except for him. Let him crawl back under the rock Spock found him under
somebody is really good  
B in ALB : 2/19/2015 7:58 pm : link
at working the Google machine.


Get rid of this toilet stain already.


And no names needed right? We all know who IM referring to.

Best part is that he's probably feeling like some sort of martyr. Like Jesus. Only more of an unoriginal clown.
The awesome thing is he's getting his ass handed to  
kicker : 2/19/2015 8:02 pm : link
him, and Spock is too much of a pussy to do what Enoch attempted to; save a brother.
Spock threw Enoch under the bus  
Headhunter : 2/19/2015 8:05 pm : link
Must be tough looking at his WWJD bracelet and not throw up
so it's confirmed  
B in ALB : 2/19/2015 8:06 pm : link
That Spock and this deluded whack job aren't the same person?

If so, what is he doing on a football message board that supports a team you're hes not a fan of?

Sorry to end my sentence with a preposition. IM sure that weighs heavily on his defective brain.
RE: so it's confirmed  
kicker : 2/19/2015 8:06 pm : link
In comment 12144107 B in ALB said:
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That Spock and this deluded whack job aren't the same person?

If so, what is he doing on a football message board that supports a team you're hes not a fan of?

Sorry to end my sentence with a preposition. IM sure that weighs heavily on his defective brain.


Well, Christians are the most persecuted species on this planet, and so to protect their numbers, they must band together.
"Did you see what God just did, man?"  
JerryNYG : 2/19/2015 8:14 pm : link
RE: so it's confirmed  
UAGiant : 2/19/2015 8:16 pm : link
In comment 12144107 B in ALB said:
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That Spock and this deluded whack job aren't the same person?

If so, what is he doing on a football message board that supports a team you're hes not a fan of?

Sorry to end my sentence with a preposition. IM sure that weighs heavily on his defective brain.


Light reading material turned up earlier in the thread linked below.

Pay extra attention to the "...so as you can imagine, many NY Jews.." part of the troll recruitment.
Link - ( New Window )
kicker  
idiotsavant : 2/19/2015 8:17 pm : link
I would not be so quick to lump Spock and Enoch in with Christians, they may be, they may not be.

and- mea culpa, I did not bother reading all the psycho truther bullshit, why would you?
One more that fits the theme of this thread...  
JerryNYG : 2/19/2015 8:18 pm : link
RE: Peter, your only redeeming quality here is throwing slabs of meat  
Peter in Atl : 2/19/2015 8:19 pm : link
In comment 12143939 David in LA said:
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on a grill. Outside of that, you're a miserable piece of shit. Hope you have a wonderful day.


You wished death on me you fucking cunt.
RE: RE: so it's confirmed  
B in ALB : 2/19/2015 8:22 pm : link
In comment 12144127 UAGiant said:
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In comment 12144107 B in ALB said:


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That Spock and this deluded whack job aren't the same person?

If so, what is he doing on a football message board that supports a team you're hes not a fan of?

Sorry to end my sentence with a preposition. IM sure that weighs heavily on his defective brain.



Light reading material turned up earlier in the thread linked below.

Pay extra attention to the "...so as you can imagine, many NY Jews.." part of the troll recruitment. Link - ( New Window )


Wow. That's completely absurd. NY Jews?

Both Enoch and Spock should be banned immediately.

Where are the mods with the hammer?


How..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/19/2015 8:33 pm : link
the fuck did I miss this gem!!!
If Spock was banned, he'd just resurrect himself,  
yatqb : 2/19/2015 8:35 pm : link
no problem.
Peter don't be a drama queen  
Headhunter : 2/19/2015 8:45 pm : link
a lot of people wish bad things for you. Grow a thicker skin
RE: Peter don't be a drama queen  
Peter in Atl : 2/19/2015 8:49 pm : link
In comment 12144162 Headhunter said:
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a lot of people wish bad things for you. Grow a thicker skin


Being a piece of shit is the norm for you.
Did I hurt little Petey's  
Headhunter : 2/19/2015 8:52 pm : link
feelings? If I did, I'm happy
Peter, I did not wish death upon you  
David in LA : 2/19/2015 9:00 pm : link
I basically said if HH's hypothetical were to happen, it's no sweat off my sack. You have some anger issues you need to work out.
peter misinterpreted a joke once  
Nitro : 2/19/2015 9:19 pm : link
and petitioned to have me banned.

He's a thin-skinned dish-but-can't-take pussy.
You guys are a perfect match for  
Peter in Atl : 2/19/2015 9:26 pm : link
each other. Both wastes of space.
the 3rd fucking moron shows up.  
Peter in Atl : 2/19/2015 9:28 pm : link
Enjoy your circle jerk.
You're  
Headhunter : 2/19/2015 9:29 pm : link
the cookie
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