The "science" being spouted isn't actually science; you're still a bigot; and you're being supported by one of the worst scum on the planet, a Sandy Hook truther.
an old teacher of mine taught me that if you start with a false premise, and disguise it fairly well, you can prove almost anything.
Enoch didn't even try to hide it: He started with the false premise that what all of the world's greatest scientists in a dozen or more disciplines are doing isn't science. With that starting point, all of his conclusions are pretty easy to reach. Then, of course, he tied in scripts from the known liars and troublemakers at places like the Discovery Institute, which gives you dinosaurs walking with humans.
It's a disgusting and smelly witches brew, not worth responding to. I fell into the trap of responding a couple of times before I saw what his game was. It's a nasty game, part of the sad and insulting history of the transition from "Creation Science" to "Intelligent Design."
And he's not even a Giants fan. What a waste of bandwidth.
We have had fans of other teams post here so I'm not implying it is a prerequisite or anything, I'm just curious.
Too Funny. I'm originally from the Home of The World Champion Pittsburgh Steelers!!
Always liked the Giants however... especially when they beat up on the Cowgirls. Tell Cruz to stop flashing that Illuminati sign...the Salsa can stay, hope his knee heals up. Beckham is scary good.
Beef up that defensive line, draft some Linebackers, O-Line---start over.
regards
Well as a Christian myself I would suggest that simply coming here just to argue this is likely not as beneficial as you may believe it is and since you like football I would recommend as a new member that you consider adding something to some other threads and get to know some other members, and they you and more importantly the tenor of the forum itself.
Technically religious threads are against the forum rules and while we are occasionally given some latitudes I believe we should try our best to respect that. I am reluctant to but will sometimes post specifics about my beliefs but usually only if I think something specific about the bible or my faith is being completely misunderstood or misquoted in attempt to at least better clarify for those that may be interested in the difference, or if asked something directly from a member but even then I try to remember what the rules ask of us and keep it short and to the point. Long debates on religious or political themed topic is clearly not respecting the rules of the forum and I think we should respect that as hard as that may personally be for some especially because while not always ironically it is often those that are against any form of religion that seem to initially bring up the topic.
Thanks for your measured and well thought out response.
Technically, I'm not discussing "Religion".
Religion is mans attempt to reconcile himself with GOD through practices, ceremonies, rituals, et al. A Preposterous Presupposition IMHO.
Jesus Christ was the most anti-"Religious" person to ever walk the earth; Ergo, Christianity is not a "religion".
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I would suggest that simply coming here just to argue this is likely not as beneficial as you may believe it is
Let's say @ some point ONE PERSON who has been deceived comes by this thread and says "wait a minute" let me check into these issues further... then comes to the realization and reckoning of "GOD"...and is SAVED. Would my efforts have been worthless?
comprehension skill, I'm still stuck on why Enoch2021 felt the need to tell us that he served 20 years with 10 of that in recon. Was it to somehow gain instant bona fides?
You are the type of bulldog that God made just for websites like that.
God makes people to defend him on internet websites. But fuck those starving kids.
Actually, that does sound in-line with his historical arrogance.
You would think rather than making someone a bulldog for football websites like this, God would just you know prove he exists to all this discussions would all be relevant. I mean it is said on the 7th day God rested right... Well apparently God has been resting for millions of years. I guess Dinosaurs where trial and error and once he made 2 humans that some how made the whole world he was like my job is done... No need to go back there.
Over the years I have tried to have cordial conversations with Rocky/Spock. I really did think he was not a bad person but just had strong through wrongful religious views. I was wrong and apologize to BBI for believing this. It is obvious now to me that he is an antisemitic piece of shit.
Let's say @ some point ONE PERSON who has been deceived comes by this thread and says "wait a minute" let me check into these issues further... then comes to the realization and reckoning of "GOD"...and is SAVED. Would my efforts have been worthless?
regards
Saving one lost soul at a time, huh? Very noble of you.
comprehension skill, I'm still stuck on why Enoch2021 felt the need to tell us that he served 20 years with 10 of that in recon. Was it to somehow gain instant bona fides?
It is treally possible to be a dumb ASIAN military guy? It's like an enigma wrapped in a paradox and shrouded in a conundrum
I am not interested in voting for someone who can't use their brain enough to find a non-mutually exclusive interpretation of both sides...e.g. Evolution is a fact, but God had a hand in it...and the literal interpretation of the Bible is not even close to a fact.
There is always the right way of saying things without undermining everyone. In the end, people should do their best to be honest and disclose their beliefs, of course, but this US vs. Them, black and white shit is the reason so many can't stand one side or the other, or in my case, can't stand either.
to come back... He basically just cuts and pastes from another argument he already has had, but when he gets question or pointed out he ignores them and just goes to paste post 3... then paste post 4
to come back... He basically just cuts and pastes from another argument he already has had, but when he gets question or pointed out he ignores them and just goes to paste post 3... then paste post 4
But he has 2 degrees!?!?!
I wonder how many times and in how many forums Enoch2021 Â
I am not interested in voting for someone who can't use their brain enough to find a non-mutually exclusive interpretation of both sides...e.g. Evolution is a fact, but God had a hand in it...and the literal interpretation of the Bible is not even close to a fact.
There is always the right way of saying things without undermining everyone. In the end, people should do their best to be honest and disclose their beliefs, of course, but this US vs. Them, black and white shit is the reason so many can't stand one side or the other, or in my case, can't stand either.
Same with politics. Everything the Democrats do is destroying our country... No everything the Republicans do is destroying our country... No actually this stupid fighting between each other instead of finding a way to work together without holding everything one party says to be true is destroying our country. How about we just get rid of parties and vote on pure issues where Democrats and Republicans a like aren't forced to back issues of their parties. Where we can work together to make this place better rather than this mess we have now. Try and work to better this country instead of fight all the time.
to come back... He basically just cuts and pastes from another argument he already has had, but when he gets question or pointed out he ignores them and just goes to paste post 3... then paste post 4
to come back... He basically just cuts and pastes from another argument he already has had, but when he gets question or pointed out he ignores them and just goes to paste post 3... then paste post 4
This is a NY Giants website, so as you can imagine, many NY Jews cursing me out because I will not relent by telling them there is only one path to God and it runs through Jesus.
to come back... He basically just cuts and pastes from another argument he already has had, but when he gets question or pointed out he ignores them and just goes to paste post 3... then paste post 4
This is a NY Giants website, so as you can imagine, many NY Jews cursing me out because I will not relent by telling them there is only one path to God and it runs through Jesus.
Let's say @ some point ONE PERSON who has been deceived comes by this thread and says "wait a minute" let me check into these issues further... then comes to the realization and reckoning of "GOD"...and is SAVED. Would my efforts have been worthless
Zero coverts
Hundreds who think that hypocrites and liars give Christianity a bad name.
What we should have SAVED is all that wasted time.
Wonder if he has the honesty to use the term NY Jews here that he uses when he thinks the NY Jews are not around. Is it possible he has made his last appearance on BBI now that he has ended any possible doubts of what he is? No I believe he will be back. People like him have no shame.
This is a NY Giants website, so as you can imagine, many NY Jews cursing me out because I will not relent by telling them there is only one path to God and it runs through Jesus.
What a cunt.
ISIS cuold have written something similar. They have in fact. What a cunt.
Let's say @ some point ONE PERSON who has been deceived comes by this thread and says "wait a minute" let me check into these issues further... then comes to the realization and reckoning of "GOD"...and is SAVED. Would my efforts have been worthless?
regards
Saving one lost soul at a time, huh? Very noble of you.
Worse than useless, actually. Tragic would be the proper term.
an old teacher of mine taught me that if you start with a false premise, and disguise it fairly well, you can prove almost anything.
Enoch didn't even try to hide it: He started with the false premise that what all of the world's greatest scientists in a dozen or more disciplines are doing isn't science. With that starting point, all of his conclusions are pretty easy to reach. Then, of course, he tied in scripts from the known liars and troublemakers at places like the Discovery Institute, which gives you dinosaurs walking with humans.
It's a disgusting and smelly witches brew, not worth responding to. I fell into the trap of responding a couple of times before I saw what his game was. It's a nasty game, part of the sad and insulting history of the transition from "Creation Science" to "Intelligent Design."
And he's not even a Giants fan. What a waste of bandwidth.
Speaking of starting with "false premises".....
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He started with the false premise that what all of the world's greatest scientists in a dozen or more disciplines are doing isn't science.
I started with "PROVING" that evolution is not "Scientific" or a "Theory". Which nobody to this point has even attempted to refute....because it's irrefutable.
So how is it false....?
And can you name "all the world's great scientists" that I have indicted?
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he tied in scripts from the known liars and troublemakers at places like the Discovery Institute
Scripts, eh? From known Liars? And you can support these Baseless rants? Define Baseless Assertions (Fallacy)?
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which gives you dinosaurs walking with humans.
I don't think the folks @ the Discovery Institute are Young Earth Creationists...the figure heads still stick to the "Billions of Years" Mantra.
Are you a STD (Soft Tissue Denier)?
Are you aware that there have been Hundreds of Documented Cases of SOFT TISSUE in fossils "Dated" from 80 Million Years to the current Record Holder: 550 Million Years?!! ...
550 Million Year old Russian "Beard Worm" Soft Tissue...
“The Sabellidites organic body is preserved without permineralization. Minerals have not replicated any part of the soft tissue and the carbonaceous material of the wall is primary, preserving the original layering of the wall, its texture, and fabrics.”
MoczydÅ‚owska, M., Westall, F. and Foucher, F., Microstructure and biogeochemistry of the organically preserved Ediacaran Metazoan Sabellidites, Journal of Paleontology 88(2):224–239, 2014
This is quit interesting...
Of Particular Note was the 150 Million Year Old squid ink (Dr. Phil Wilby Paleontologist).....
"It's fossilized so beautifully well that you can actually still write with it. It still looks as if it is modern squid ink."
"We felt that drawing the animal with it would be the ultimate self-portrait."
"I can dissect them as if they are living animals. You can even tell whether it was a fast or slow swimmer, by looking at all the muscle fibres."
Can you explain these...
There are only 4 possible conclusions that can be drawn based on the above evidence (I have Thousands more):
1. Humans Lived with Dinos.
2. Multiple Cultures Conjured these from their imaginations and constructed pottery, architectural designs, paintings/drawings @ various times and different Geographical Separated Locations that Miraculously just so happen to fit Modern Paleontology's exact descriptions of these Creatures. (Including Skin Color/Designs)
3. ALL Ancient Cultures had Paleontologists that: dug up bones, reconstructed them to exacting details including appropriate flesh anatomy, skin color, and design. Then made Pottery, Architectural Motifs and Drawings depicting them exactly then reburied the Bones."
to come back... He basically just cuts and pastes from another argument he already has had, but when he gets question or pointed out he ignores them and just goes to paste post 3... then paste post 4
God makes people to defend him on internet websites. But fuck those starving kids.
Actually, that does sound in-line with his historical arrogance.
And fuck anyone who suggested that Spock's not an anti-Semite...
The "science" being spouted isn't actually science; you're still a bigot; and you're being supported by one of the worst scum on the planet, a Sandy Hook truther.
Bravo, Spock, bravo.
What a massive loser.
Heh.
I thought lawyers typically vet the "experts" they hire? Whoops.
He was, in fact, lying to his Christian brothers and sisters over there, since there were other people voicing opposition.
Enoch didn't even try to hide it: He started with the false premise that what all of the world's greatest scientists in a dozen or more disciplines are doing isn't science. With that starting point, all of his conclusions are pretty easy to reach. Then, of course, he tied in scripts from the known liars and troublemakers at places like the Discovery Institute, which gives you dinosaurs walking with humans.
It's a disgusting and smelly witches brew, not worth responding to. I fell into the trap of responding a couple of times before I saw what his game was. It's a nasty game, part of the sad and insulting history of the transition from "Creation Science" to "Intelligent Design."
And he's not even a Giants fan. What a waste of bandwidth.
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I'm curious if you a NY Giant fan?
We have had fans of other teams post here so I'm not implying it is a prerequisite or anything, I'm just curious.
Too Funny. I'm originally from the Home of The World Champion Pittsburgh Steelers!!
Always liked the Giants however... especially when they beat up on the Cowgirls. Tell Cruz to stop flashing that Illuminati sign...the Salsa can stay, hope his knee heals up. Beckham is scary good.
Beef up that defensive line, draft some Linebackers, O-Line---start over.
regards
Well as a Christian myself I would suggest that simply coming here just to argue this is likely not as beneficial as you may believe it is and since you like football I would recommend as a new member that you consider adding something to some other threads and get to know some other members, and they you and more importantly the tenor of the forum itself.
Technically religious threads are against the forum rules and while we are occasionally given some latitudes I believe we should try our best to respect that. I am reluctant to but will sometimes post specifics about my beliefs but usually only if I think something specific about the bible or my faith is being completely misunderstood or misquoted in attempt to at least better clarify for those that may be interested in the difference, or if asked something directly from a member but even then I try to remember what the rules ask of us and keep it short and to the point. Long debates on religious or political themed topic is clearly not respecting the rules of the forum and I think we should respect that as hard as that may personally be for some especially because while not always ironically it is often those that are against any form of religion that seem to initially bring up the topic.
Thanks for your measured and well thought out response.
Technically, I'm not discussing "Religion".
Religion is mans attempt to reconcile himself with GOD through practices, ceremonies, rituals, et al. A Preposterous Presupposition IMHO.
Jesus Christ was the most anti-"Religious" person to ever walk the earth; Ergo, Christianity is not a "religion".
Let's say @ some point ONE PERSON who has been deceived comes by this thread and says "wait a minute" let me check into these issues further... then comes to the realization and reckoning of "GOD"...and is SAVED. Would my efforts have been worthless?
regards
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You are the type of bulldog that God made just for websites like that.
God makes people to defend him on internet websites. But fuck those starving kids.
Actually, that does sound in-line with his historical arrogance.
unfortunatley that's lost on people like spock..
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You are the type of bulldog that God made just for websites like that.
God makes people to defend him on internet websites. But fuck those starving kids.
Actually, that does sound in-line with his historical arrogance.
You would think rather than making someone a bulldog for football websites like this, God would just you know prove he exists to all this discussions would all be relevant. I mean it is said on the 7th day God rested right... Well apparently God has been resting for millions of years. I guess Dinosaurs where trial and error and once he made 2 humans that some how made the whole world he was like my job is done... No need to go back there.
regards
Saving one lost soul at a time, huh? Very noble of you.
Please, tell us your view on the Holocaust, Sandy Hook and 9/11? Pretty please?
It is treally possible to be a dumb ASIAN military guy? It's like an enigma wrapped in a paradox and shrouded in a conundrum
There is always the right way of saying things without undermining everyone. In the end, people should do their best to be honest and disclose their beliefs, of course, but this US vs. Them, black and white shit is the reason so many can't stand one side or the other, or in my case, can't stand either.
But he has 2 degrees!?!?!
There is always the right way of saying things without undermining everyone. In the end, people should do their best to be honest and disclose their beliefs, of course, but this US vs. Them, black and white shit is the reason so many can't stand one side or the other, or in my case, can't stand either.
Same with politics. Everything the Democrats do is destroying our country... No everything the Republicans do is destroying our country... No actually this stupid fighting between each other instead of finding a way to work together without holding everything one party says to be true is destroying our country. How about we just get rid of parties and vote on pure issues where Democrats and Republicans a like aren't forced to back issues of their parties. Where we can work together to make this place better rather than this mess we have now. Try and work to better this country instead of fight all the time.
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to come back... He basically just cuts and pastes from another argument he already has had, but when he gets question or pointed out he ignores them and just goes to paste post 3... then paste post 4
But he has 2 degrees!?!?!
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to come back... He basically just cuts and pastes from another argument he already has had, but when he gets question or pointed out he ignores them and just goes to paste post 3... then paste post 4
But he has 2 degrees!?!?!
Yeah "Bible study" and "cut and paste 101"
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This is a NY Giants website, so as you can imagine, many NY Jews cursing me out because I will not relent by telling them there is only one path to God and it runs through Jesus.
What a cunt.
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to come back... He basically just cuts and pastes from another argument he already has had, but when he gets question or pointed out he ignores them and just goes to paste post 3... then paste post 4
But he has 2 degrees!?!?!
Astrology is one. What is the second?
Oral masturbation.
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This is a NY Giants website, so as you can imagine, many NY Jews cursing me out because I will not relent by telling them there is only one path to God and it runs through Jesus.
What a cunt.
You're just a NY (NJ?) Jew cursing him out.
Zero coverts
Hundreds who think that hypocrites and liars give Christianity a bad name.
What we should have SAVED is all that wasted time.
An anti-semitic cunt
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NY Jews? Who writes that?
An anti-semitic cunt
You're not saving yourself with these attacks.
Repent, sinner, repent!
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This is a NY Giants website, so as you can imagine, many NY Jews cursing me out because I will not relent by telling them there is only one path to God and it runs through Jesus.
What a cunt.
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Let's say @ some point ONE PERSON who has been deceived comes by this thread and says "wait a minute" let me check into these issues further... then comes to the realization and reckoning of "GOD"...and is SAVED. Would my efforts have been worthless?
regards
Saving one lost soul at a time, huh? Very noble of you.
Worse than useless, actually. Tragic would be the proper term.
Enoch didn't even try to hide it: He started with the false premise that what all of the world's greatest scientists in a dozen or more disciplines are doing isn't science. With that starting point, all of his conclusions are pretty easy to reach. Then, of course, he tied in scripts from the known liars and troublemakers at places like the Discovery Institute, which gives you dinosaurs walking with humans.
It's a disgusting and smelly witches brew, not worth responding to. I fell into the trap of responding a couple of times before I saw what his game was. It's a nasty game, part of the sad and insulting history of the transition from "Creation Science" to "Intelligent Design."
And he's not even a Giants fan. What a waste of bandwidth.
Speaking of starting with "false premises".....
I started with "PROVING" that evolution is not "Scientific" or a "Theory". Which nobody to this point has even attempted to refute....because it's irrefutable.
So how is it false....?
And can you name "all the world's great scientists" that I have indicted?
Scripts, eh? From known Liars? And you can support these Baseless rants? Define Baseless Assertions (Fallacy)?
I don't think the folks @ the Discovery Institute are Young Earth Creationists...the figure heads still stick to the "Billions of Years" Mantra.
Are you a STD (Soft Tissue Denier)?
Are you aware that there have been Hundreds of Documented Cases of SOFT TISSUE in fossils "Dated" from 80 Million Years to the current Record Holder: 550 Million Years?!! ...
550 Million Year old Russian "Beard Worm" Soft Tissue...
“The Sabellidites organic body is preserved without permineralization. Minerals have not replicated any part of the soft tissue and the carbonaceous material of the wall is primary, preserving the original layering of the wall, its texture, and fabrics.”
MoczydÅ‚owska, M., Westall, F. and Foucher, F., Microstructure and biogeochemistry of the organically preserved Ediacaran Metazoan Sabellidites, Journal of Paleontology 88(2):224–239, 2014
This is quit interesting...
Of Particular Note was the 150 Million Year Old squid ink (Dr. Phil Wilby Paleontologist).....
"It's fossilized so beautifully well that you can actually still write with it. It still looks as if it is modern squid ink."
"We felt that drawing the animal with it would be the ultimate self-portrait."
"I can dissect them as if they are living animals. You can even tell whether it was a fast or slow swimmer, by looking at all the muscle fibres."
Can you explain these...
There are only 4 possible conclusions that can be drawn based on the above evidence (I have Thousands more):
1. Humans Lived with Dinos.
2. Multiple Cultures Conjured these from their imaginations and constructed pottery, architectural designs, paintings/drawings @ various times and different Geographical Separated Locations that Miraculously just so happen to fit Modern Paleontology's exact descriptions of these Creatures. (Including Skin Color/Designs)
3. ALL Ancient Cultures had Paleontologists that: dug up bones, reconstructed them to exacting details including appropriate flesh anatomy, skin color, and design. Then made Pottery, Architectural Motifs and Drawings depicting them exactly then reburied the Bones."
4. All said Ancient Cultures "Guessed".
Go ahead....?
regards
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to come back... He basically just cuts and pastes from another argument he already has had, but when he gets question or pointed out he ignores them and just goes to paste post 3... then paste post 4
But he has 2 degrees!?!?!
Yes, Kelvin.