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Nick Fairley: An option for us or stay away?

Big Blue '56 : 2/14/2015 12:19 pm
Assuming the Lions don't sign him, is he a viable option or red-flagger?
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Because he was found not guilty  
pjcas18 : 2/14/2015 12:27 pm : link
of the DUI, and therefore not going to be suspended the first two games of 2015, I think he should be considered. The suspension bothered me more than the DUI.

But, I have no idea how he was found not guilty of that. I read he failed three field sobriety tests, and had an open container in his vehicle that he said at the time was his (later his girlfriend, the passenger claimed ownership, but no clue how that has any credibility). And this was based on what I read at the time, new information may have come out that I'm unaware of.

I guess the advice at the next rookie symposium should be reject the breathalyzer and blood test. In most states (or many) that's an automatic loss of license for a period of time, but it's not a DUI.

but to the point, I like Fairley and would definitely consider him. He's beaten the law twice, marijuana possession and now DUI. The guy leads a charmed life (LOL).
He is an option at fair price  
SGMen : 2/14/2015 12:35 pm : link
We can't count on Patterson or Jenkins so those are two folks that are likely going to be gone.

Fairley is an upgrade over Jenkins if healthy.

But don't overspend.
Age-wise, he's still in his  
Big Blue '56 : 2/14/2015 12:38 pm : link
prime at just turned 27..

RE: Because he was found not guilty  
dguy901 : 2/14/2015 12:42 pm : link
In comment 12136245 pjcas18 said:
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of the DUI, and therefore not going to be suspended the first two games of 2015, I think he should be considered. The suspension bothered me more than the DUI.

But, I have no idea how he was found not guilty of that. I read he failed three field sobriety tests, and had an open container in his vehicle that he said at the time was his (later his girlfriend, the passenger claimed ownership, but no clue how that has any credibility). And this was based on what I read at the time, new information may have come out that I'm unaware of.

I guess the advice at the next rookie symposium should be reject the breathalyzer and blood test. In most states (or many) that's an automatic loss of license for a period of time, but it's not a DUI.

but to the point, I like Fairley and would definitely consider him. He's beaten the law twice, marijuana possession and now DUI. The guy leads a charmed life (LOL).

I would not have a problem with signing him as long as there is a conduct clause in his contract. He has been busted for 2 DUI's plus a pot possession charge already. He has only been in the league 4 years and he only played in 8 games last year.
meh  
idiotsavant : 2/14/2015 12:51 pm : link
we ought to aim higher
RE: RE: Because he was found not guilty  
AcidTest : 2/14/2015 12:55 pm : link
In comment 12136259 dguy901 said:
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In comment 12136245 pjcas18 said:


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of the DUI, and therefore not going to be suspended the first two games of 2015, I think he should be considered. The suspension bothered me more than the DUI.

But, I have no idea how he was found not guilty of that. I read he failed three field sobriety tests, and had an open container in his vehicle that he said at the time was his (later his girlfriend, the passenger claimed ownership, but no clue how that has any credibility). And this was based on what I read at the time, new information may have come out that I'm unaware of.

I guess the advice at the next rookie symposium should be reject the breathalyzer and blood test. In most states (or many) that's an automatic loss of license for a period of time, but it's not a DUI.

but to the point, I like Fairley and would definitely consider him. He's beaten the law twice, marijuana possession and now DUI. The guy leads a charmed life (LOL).


I would not have a problem with signing him as long as there is a conduct clause in his contract. He has been busted for 2 DUI's plus a pot possession charge already. He has only been in the league 4 years and he only played in 8 games last year.


Not based on that record.
Only on a very cheap deal  
DavidinBMNY : 2/14/2015 12:55 pm : link
High risk , high reward
this is  
shocktheworld : 2/14/2015 12:56 pm : link
exactly the type of player that I hope Reese RUNS AWAY FROM!!!

Look, the guy has potential pro bowl talent and is hitting the prime years....but....he is lazy, prone to drug/DUI type scenarios and is exactly the Albert Haynesworth type of personality that will slack off after the big money deal.

The kid got benched by Detroit more than once to "motivate" him, and is a known shithead in the locker room...

This is the type of signing that haunts you for 3-4 years, and the Giants are smart enough to pass on him...hopefully
could be  
area junc : 2/14/2015 12:59 pm : link
sounds like Mara is planning on adding a veteran at each level of the D
I mean, I get that good DL play often  
idiotsavant : 2/14/2015 1:03 pm : link
does not show- stat wise.

But, it is time to invest in players that can and do or will show up both in holding a spot AND stat wise...at all defensive line positions.

and- be very wary of all free agents, we have signed a bunch of OLers with more injury risk than we apparently thought at the time, so caveat emptor on linesmen that teams do let go.

if you do feel you must invest in a type of player that wont show up stat wise (you might say plugger) then you might as well find the more nose types, otherwise, i don't see the stats here.
so, a team pretending to let a player go for  
idiotsavant : 2/14/2015 1:04 pm : link
behavior reasons, caveat emptor, there may be hidden injury risk as a real reason
I see where the Cowboys  
Big Blue '56 : 2/14/2015 1:12 pm : link
declined the option on 28 year-old Henry Melton
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RE: Because he was found not guilty  
Dunedin81 : 2/14/2015 1:23 pm : link
In comment 12136245 pjcas18 said:
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of the DUI, and therefore not going to be suspended the first two games of 2015, I think he should be considered. The suspension bothered me more than the DUI.

But, I have no idea how he was found not guilty of that. I read he failed three field sobriety tests, and had an open container in his vehicle that he said at the time was his (later his girlfriend, the passenger claimed ownership, but no clue how that has any credibility). And this was based on what I read at the time, new information may have come out that I'm unaware of.

I guess the advice at the next rookie symposium should be reject the breathalyzer and blood test. In most states (or many) that's an automatic loss of license for a period of time, but it's not a DUI.

but to the point, I like Fairley and would definitely consider him. He's beaten the law twice, marijuana possession and now DUI. The guy leads a charmed life (LOL).


Beware the shithouse lawyer, and the categorical. There is no hard and fast rule. In some places the refusal doesn't preclude the DUI, you can end up with both if the FSTs or other indications are compelling enough. No criminal law attorney worth his salt is going to give that sort of advice without knowing the area he is referencing well.
Pass. Fairly has almost every red flag there is.  
Red Dog : 2/14/2015 1:39 pm : link
He's a talented player when he wants to be, BUT he is lazy at times. He has trouble keeping his weight under control. He has a significant injury history. And then there are those multiple brushes with the law. Plus he will want a lot of money. Pass.

Sign somebody else, and not Suh who is another one to be avoided like the plague.

Stephen Paea from the Bears is worth a look see.
RE: could be  
Coach Mason : 2/14/2015 1:43 pm : link
In comment 12136273 area junc said:
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sounds like Mara is planning on adding a veteran at each level of the D


Getting our new DC some extra toys to play with?
It's too bad we don't have Linval Joseph  
ChemDawg1990 : 2/14/2015 1:43 pm : link
He and Hank would be quite the duo
I'd rather sign McPhee from the ravens  
djm : 2/14/2015 1:45 pm : link
.

I really really want McPhee  
djm : 2/14/2015 1:48 pm : link
He's an attacker and can line up all over the dline. He's not that tall or big but he's just a good football player. 6'3 280. He's just what this defense needs.
RE: Pass. Fairly has almost every red flag there is.  
Big Blue '56 : 2/14/2015 1:57 pm : link
In comment 12136317 Red Dog said:
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He's a talented player when he wants to be, BUT he is lazy at times. He has trouble keeping his weight under control. He has a significant injury history. And then there are those multiple brushes with the law. Plus he will want a lot of money. Pass.

Sign somebody else, and not Suh who is another one to be avoided like the plague.

Stephen Paea from the Bears is worth a look see.


Agree about Paea
People  
SoZKillA : 2/14/2015 2:03 pm : link
Saying we should avoid Suh are absolutely lost.
RE: I really really want McPhee  
Coach Mason : 2/14/2015 2:04 pm : link
In comment 12136327 djm said:
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He's an attacker and can line up all over the dline. He's not that tall or big but he's just a good football player. 6'3 280. He's just what this defense needs.


Steve had an up close look see on this guy. Isn't a brand name yet and maybe able to get for reasonable dollars.
RE: Pass. Fairly has almost every red flag there is.  
dguy901 : 2/14/2015 2:16 pm : link
In comment 12136317 Red Dog said:
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He's a talented player when he wants to be, BUT he is lazy at times. He has trouble keeping his weight under control. He has a significant injury history. And then there are those multiple brushes with the law. Plus he will want a lot of money. Pass.

Sign somebody else, and not Suh who is another one to be avoided like the plague.

Stephen Paea from the Bears is worth a look see.

Agree on Paea, Farley will work if he is on a short leash. He won't command high dollars based on his troubles and only (1) sack in (8) games.
Dan Williams  
CromartiesKid21 : 2/14/2015 2:52 pm : link
is an excellent option hope Reese looks into him as well
In theory, a natural 3-tech with Fairley's skills is worth a look...  
Big Blue Blogger : 2/14/2015 2:56 pm : link
...unless they are pretty sure Jay Bromley is about to break out. The thing is, if they are looking for a vet to hedge the Bromley bet, it doesn't make much sense to sign a guy who's an even bigger gamble than Bromley.

The Lions were pretty close to taking a big step forward the last few years, and Fairley was one of the factors that held them back. I'd pass completely, but I understand the interest.
Paea  
Rjanyg : 2/14/2015 3:56 pm : link
May fit into our cap situation the best.
Red Dog  
JonC : 2/14/2015 4:37 pm : link
+1 including signing Paea.
Correct me if I am wrong but..  
EricJ : 2/14/2015 7:58 pm : link
hasn't Fairley missed more games than he has actually played?
EricJ: Quite wrong.  
Big Blue Blogger : 2/14/2015 8:10 pm : link
Regular season: 46 games played; 18 games missed.
Postseason: 1 played; 1 missed.

Still, Fairley has only started 30 games in four years. Quite disappointing, for the 13th overall pick in 2011. For all his injury problems, Prince Amukamara has surpassed Fairley, with 35 starts. Then again, Jason Pierre-Paul only started 33 games in his first four years, and he's about to get very rich.
I'd pass on Fairley unless  
mrvax : 2/14/2015 8:16 pm : link
there was no one else we could get that was decent. I can see Fairley coming here, playing well and then pulling a Will Hill. At minimum, he could wind up in Coughlin's doghouse.
that's a lot of missed games  
bc4life : 2/15/2015 8:33 am : link
a lot.

the dui and weed - given the will hill fiasco, not sure the Giants are in the mood to give players the benefit of the doubt.

wonder how much truth there is re: the "work ethic" issue?

there's a lot to get by and there are other options.
Fairly  
stretch234 : 2/15/2015 8:54 am : link
You don't even consider him. He has red flags all over the place. Does he really even care about football. As others have mentioned, he was benched numerous times and it did not motivate him.

Stay away!
Please no.  
River Mike : 2/15/2015 9:05 am : link
I get that we can't have a team of choir boys, but you have to be careful. Someone with multiple fuck ups and a rep for being lazy on top of it isn't on my careful radar.
RE: In theory, a natural 3-tech with Fairley's skills is worth a look...  
dguy901 : 2/15/2015 9:33 am : link
In comment 12136406 Big Blue Blogger said:
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...unless they are pretty sure Jay Bromley is about to break out. The thing is, if they are looking for a vet to hedge the Bromley bet, it doesn't make much sense to sign a guy who's an even bigger gamble than Bromley.

The Lions were pretty close to taking a big step forward the last few years, and Fairley was one of the factors that held them back. I'd pass completely, but I understand the interest.

I think Bromley will take a big step this. Farley is still a great risk-reward scenario. He will not demand the high dollars and has great potential. Get him cheap and make it clear, screw-up and you are gone, it could provide quality depth.
Just like a bad piece of fish...  
chiefmps : 2/15/2015 9:33 am : link
If it look bad one should stay away from it, in this case I'm talking about Fairley. Danny Shelton if he is there is the answer to what ail the Giants. Go offensive lineman in the next round.
I'd give him a Bennett type deal  
giants#1 : 2/15/2015 9:49 am : link
or more preferably one structured like Walton's which was essentially a 1 year deal with a modest team option for year 2 if his play warranted. I like Bromley long term, but think he's probably best served as the #3 DT getting 20-25 snaps/game.

But someone's probably going to overpay for Fairley anyway due to his potential and occasional flashes.
RE: I'd give him a Bennett type deal  
Big Blue '56 : 2/15/2015 12:12 pm : link
In comment 12137126 giants#1 said:
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or more preferably one structured like Walton's which was essentially a 1 year deal with a modest team option for year 2 if his play warranted. I like Bromley long term, but think he's probably best served as the #3 DT getting 20-25 snaps/game.

But someone's probably going to overpay for Fairley anyway due to his potential and occasional flashes.


We don't know much about Bromley as a pro, so it's difficult to say he's "probably best served as the #3 DT getting 20-25 snaps/game."

That may eventually ring true, but right now, what do we really know about him at this level?
Im  
NYG4246 : 2/16/2015 4:37 pm : link
a fan of Hankins and Jenkins at DT but as a 3rd Dt or a rotational I think Fairley would fit well....I woudldnt pay too much for him. 2-3 deal for 6-10 mil is something I would do.
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