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NFT: Good news for Buffalo: no lake effect snow with Erie frozen.

manh george : 2/19/2015 11:59 am
In order to get lake effect snow, you need an actual lake with actual moisture rising out of it. Lake Erie is now 98% ice covered, and the Great Lakes overall are 84.5% covered.

Does't help Boston, of course, because their "lake" is a little bigger, and saltier.
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Finally,  
LG in NYC : 2/19/2015 12:15 pm : link
a place for all of those displaced polar bears I have been hearing about.
Good for them  
prh : 2/19/2015 12:17 pm : link
They need a break especially with the high winds forecasted.
mg  
BobOnLI : 2/19/2015 12:20 pm : link
I have always preferred ersatz lakes with virtual moisture for that reason.
I'm 60 miles from Buffalo  
Phil from WNY : 2/19/2015 12:27 pm : link
and my driveway is like a canyon. The snow is so high that the herd of deer, which normally lives in my yard, haven't visited in a month. I would need snowshoes to get into my yard.

I can normally fit 15 cars in my driveway for a party but today, I can maybe fit 3.
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Danny Kanell : 2/19/2015 12:37 pm : link
I was just in Buffalo for work. Underrated town that I always have a good time in but man it is fucking cold. It's just a different kind of cold that you don't feel down on Long Island/NYC area.
Thank god for the life-threatening cold weather to keep down  
SomeFan : 2/19/2015 1:32 pm : link
the insanely high snow levels. Pot or frying pan.
RE: .  
Jim in Fairfax : 2/19/2015 1:38 pm : link
In comment 12143166 Danny Kanell said:
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I was just in Buffalo for work. Underrated town that I always have a good time in but man it is fucking cold. It's just a different kind of cold that you don't feel down on Long Island/NYC area.

It never got this cold in Brooklyn. It's like Siberia cold. Nanook couldn't take this kind of cold.
Raaaaachester here: I'm not sure the freezing of the Great Lakes  
schnitzie : 2/19/2015 1:47 pm : link
actually stops the Lake Effect Snow. Due to the process of Sublimation, the Sun still works on the snow and ice and extracts the moisture. The water simply goes directly from a frozen/solid state to a gaseous state.

You can see this on a series of days without snow, when snow banks contract without a break in freezing temperatures. You can also see the icicles getting thinner without any melting.

I don't know if Lake Ontario is completely frozen over, but usually Rochester gets more "Lake Effect" snow as Lake Ontario gets colder and freezes over.

No matter how you slice it, THIS WINTER PHUQUING SUCKS FROZEN MOOSE BALLS!
RE: Raaaaachester here: I'm not sure the freezing of the Great Lakes  
SwirlingEddie : 2/19/2015 1:56 pm : link
In comment 12143341 schnitzie said:
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actually stops the Lake Effect Snow. Due to the process of Sublimation, the Sun still works on the snow and ice and extracts the moisture. The water simply goes directly from a frozen/solid state to a gaseous state.

You can see this on a series of days without snow, when snow banks contract without a break in freezing temperatures. You can also see the icicles getting thinner without any melting.

I don't know if Lake Ontario is completely frozen over, but usually Rochester gets more "Lake Effect" snow as Lake Ontario gets colder and freezes over.

No matter how you slice it, THIS WINTER PHUQUING SUCKS FROZEN MOOSE BALLS!


I was just looking this up - it appears that sublimation absorbs about 13% more latent heat than evaporation, so while the Lake Effect may be reduced I would doubt it's eliminated.

Lake Champlain has just frozen over this week for the second year in a row. Last year was the first time since 2007.

Regardless, for me the cold gets me down far more than the snow, at least as long as my roof stays intact.
I'm getting used to the cold  
Phil from WNY : 2/19/2015 2:01 pm : link
I've been shoveling so much that I'm outside for an hour a day. I'm now comfortable in a warm sweater and an insulated hat when it's zero or below.
RE: Thank god for the life-threatening cold weather to keep down  
schabadoo : 2/19/2015 2:08 pm : link
In comment 12143315 SomeFan said:
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the insanely high snow levels. Pot or frying pan.


Perfect for skiing. No ice due to no melting, tons of fresh powder. Whiteface was perfect this weekend.
Ontario  
dorgan : 2/19/2015 3:24 pm : link
is definitely not frozen over completely. Last time it froze was 1934. Came close in 1979, but not a complete freeze over.

1979 was colder than this year by 2 degrees, so we'd need an extended sub zero period for it to ice up completely.

Water services are starting to freeze. Thawed out 3 today, scheduled for 3 tomorrow and turned down 6 other requests because I don't want to commit the labor and equipment resources to do this more than a few days.
2-3 more days of this crap and many more will freeze creating some pretty serious health implications.

Buffalo gets all the press but  
Steve L : 2/19/2015 5:12 pm : link
On average Syracuse gets way more snow that Buffalo. I think this year Buffalo has gotten more but only because of those initial storms.
Syracuse gets more...  
manh george : 2/19/2015 7:43 pm : link
in part because because Erie often freezes, and Ontario hardly ever does.

Yeah, Buffalo's total is high, because of the big monster storms last fall before anything started freezing over. How cold is it? It's so cold that Niagara stopped falling.

I'm wondering Whats happening  
Hammer : 2/19/2015 9:08 pm : link
With the gulf stream / Grand Banks conveyor belt system. It sure seems to me that the Atlantic is not moderating temperatures like it used to.
I was by the shore today.  
Shepherdsam : 2/19/2015 9:43 pm : link
Lake Ontario isn't frozen over but there is a thin layer that goes out farther from shore than I've ever seen from my side of the lake.
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