After reflecting upon the many words here, I have "good news" for you- I will honor your requests to depart and never come back. It is obvious to me many of you believe I am anti-Semitic, a disgrace to my profession, and a hater of good science. (On top of that, I even had the audacity to root for the hated Dallas Cowboys this offseason.)
This decision became even clearer when I read the words from a dear brother in Christ, Steve in ky. I have great respect for Steve, so you guys could thank him for making it clear to me, and for you guys getting the result you obviously want.
Although I know in my heart this is the furthest thing from the truth, obviously my words, both past and present, indicate otherwise to some. I see no reason to defend my words, so I will just let it be at that.
I know some will be looking for me to start a new handle, but it is definitely not my intention to take on a 4th name.
So, I guess this is good bye. To those who really believe I am this monster many believe I am, "you are welcome" (said after you say, "thank you for leaving ") To those who are either indifferent or know me better, thank you for giving me the benefit of the doubt and for the fellowship we have shared these many years.
To God be the glory! Live long and prosper!
Spock out
steve, I really respect you, so please understand.
This was not about a single insensitive remark for which he could apologize.
It was about a series of offending behaviors over the course of that thread, from lying about whether he was aware of the linking of Jews in Israel to the Rapture by many fundamentalist Christians, to pretending that Messianic Jews love all Jews, to bringing on a hired gun to "prove" that there were other who believe as he does. It was bad behavior in the extreme. You are such a kind soul that you probably didn't focus on it, but it was maddeningly bad behavior.
Take care, and don't worry, he will figure a way to come back under a new handle. He always does.
I do understand and maybe I shouldn't have even responded to him and I certainly am not trying to down play how much anyone should be offended in doing so. I did want him to know in my originally speaking up it wasn't my intention to drive him off the site, I simply just had had enough and needed to say something. And I thought just maybe leave him the possibility that after a long enough break he could possibly return with a different perspective. Maybe that wasn't very realistic of me.
Steve, while you and I disagree on the religion topic, you've always been honest and earnest in our discussions. If there were more Christians like you, I'd have much less to complain about.
do you think he went crying to the mods like he did last time?
What last time are you talking about? It's amazing how fucking stupid you assholes are. You contribute absolutely nothing to this place.
In the 20 years I've been involved with this board, do you know how many times I've complained about a post related to me? Once. And since it got a fucking douche banned, it obviously crossed a line because the mods agreed with me.
are you kickerpa? because I just mentioned you (kind of) in the Rangers thread. You labeled me racist once and I never mentioned anything about race. Then again, I've taken enough white guilt classes to know better from skewl because "college is so worth it"
Sorry, can't remember all the people on here who don't like others.
- Hate bannings based on people getting their feelings hurt. Even if someone is posting hateful crap, I'd rather that it's allowed so they're exposed rather than encourage them to hide it. Exposing and debating the stupid accomplishes much more than keeping it hidden. Besides, we're supposed to be adults- if you can't read about someone else's beliefs (no matter how crazy and hateful they may sound to you) without being offended, you should probably do some reflecting on why you take disagreement so personally. If you're confident in your beliefs, defend them with sound reasoning (if you're able).
-soda man equating how much money he makes with being a good person (and evidently his self worth) is hilarious. Thanks.
-Peter: if you weren't so damned thin skinned about every miniscule perceived slight, folks probably wouldn't antagonize you- that, and that you seem to have no problem dishing it out. Your "tough guy" bluster isn't serving it's purpose of hiding your insecurities and sensitivity; it does just the opposite, it highlights them.
IMO.
(Definitely not an opinion that's worth as much as soda man's because he makes more money than I.)
What last time are you talking about? It's amazing how fucking stupid you assholes are. You contribute absolutely nothing to this place.
In the 20 years I've been involved with this board, do you know how many times I've complained about a post related to me? Once. And since it got a fucking douche banned, it obviously crossed a line because the mods agreed with me.
You're a rat fuck. Do it once, do it a thousand times. Keep thinking you were right, whatever it doesn't matter. Nothing's going to shake your thin-skinned dish but can't take rep, period. Talk about time on the board like it matters, but you really showed your mettle (or lack thereof) in that instance.
I'll post a picture of a whore. I'll put a quote on it and attribute the quote to your mother. Now, don't go thinking the things are related.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
I actually usually agree with you and we would probably get along well in real life (as much as you can tell from forum interactions.) If my opinion was blunt it's because I think you're a smart guy, and although I think you're thin skinned, I also think you can appreciate when someone is being honest with you rather than intentionally trying to "get your goat."
Feel free to call my mother, kids, or any loved ones whatever you would like. They're not going to read it, and being that you've never met any of them- not a single opinion you have of them is based on reality- which makes it worthless- no skin off of my back.
I'll post a picture of a whore. I'll put a quote on it and attribute the quote to your mother. Now, don't go thinking the things are related.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
I actually usually agree with you and we would probably get along well in real life (as much as you can tell from forum interactions.) If my opinion was blunt it's because I think you're a smart guy, and although I think you're thin skinned, I also think you can appreciate when someone is being honest with you rather than intentionally trying to "get your goat."
Feel free to call my mother, kids, or any loved ones whatever you would like. They're not going to read it, and being that you've never met any of them- not a single opinion you have of them is based on reality- which makes it worthless- no skin off of my back.
I'll post a picture of a whore. I'll put a quote on it and attribute the quote to your mother. Now, don't go thinking the things are related.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
I actually usually agree with you and we would probably get along well in real life (as much as you can tell from forum interactions.) If my opinion was blunt it's because I think you're a smart guy, and although I think you're thin skinned, I also think you can appreciate when someone is being honest with you rather than intentionally trying to "get your goat."
Feel free to call my mother, kids, or any loved ones whatever you would like. They're not going to read it, and being that you've never met any of them- not a single opinion you have of them is based on reality- which makes it worthless- no skin off of my back.
I'll post a picture of a whore. I'll put a quote on it and attribute the quote to your mother. Now, don't go thinking the things are related.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
I actually usually agree with you and we would probably get along well in real life (as much as you can tell from forum interactions.) If my opinion was blunt it's because I think you're a smart guy, and although I think you're thin skinned, I also think you can appreciate when someone is being honest with you rather than intentionally trying to "get your goat."
Feel free to call my mother, kids, or any loved ones whatever you would like. They're not going to read it, and being that you've never met any of them- not a single opinion you have of them is based on reality- which makes it worthless- no skin off of my back.
I never did find out whether Enoch thinks Stephen Hawking is a scientist.
Maybe this will answer the question...
Stephen Hawking the Crowned Grand Poobah of Science and the Pinnacle of Intellectual Atheistic Elitism states, and I quote:
"Philosophy is DEAD. It has not kept up with modern developments in science particularly in Physics. As a result Scientists have become the bearers of the torch of discovery in our quest for knowledge."----
Can you see the Clumsy Childlike Contradiction? It's a Philosophical Statement lol; ERGO, his statement is DEAD. It's a Hammer to put out a c4 fire scenario. My 10 year old daughter can run logical circles around his worshipfullness.
Then this....."Because there is a Law such as Gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing."-----
Create itself!!!!! That means it Existed PRIOR to it's Existence. ahhh, to call this Incoherent Absurdity is insulting to Incoherent Absurdity.
He didn't even say GRAVITY, he said because there is a "Law of Gravity". Oh my, ahhh, aren't Laws Immaterial Descriptions of what we Observe? How can a Law exist without existence of the thing that's being described and the one describing it?
I suggest he embark on 13th Century Alchemy...the tenets are more sound.
Also, has the Laws of Motion ever CAUSED a Billiard Ball to roll across a table?
"Create itself from nothing" ---- off the reservation is insulting to off the reservation.
And, don't you have to have @ least 2 masses for gravity? Where'd he get the masses...from nothing?
So Yes, an Amazing Scientist!! Define Straight-jacket...?
Thanks my friend, and believe me I have plenty of flaws myself as we all do. It is just real embarrassing to me as a Christian when other people come here and draw attention to themselves because of their faith and try and push their faith on people I just don't agree with that and being offensive in the process is just not biblical. I am certainly proud of my faith and if it comes up in the normal conversation in a thread I will usually make a post or two if asked a question or to clarify something like a bible verse etc. that I perceive as being misunderstood or being taken out of context but I don't believe I should be pushing my beliefs on anyone else. I am a pretty devout conservative Christian but I don't believe that a in your face "bulldog" approach is how we are instructed to go through life and felt I had to take acceptation to what took place.
Well there Steve,
I wasn't pushing "Beliefs" on anyone. I was merely showing "HOW".... Step by Step, "evolution" isn't "Science" but a fairytale for grown-ups.
The subject has been fully discussed here already. No need to continue. Move on and take pride in your role in getting a poster who has been here for almost 20 years to leave in disgrace.
RE: RE: One of the things that I still find astonishing...
that Spock and his buddy reminded me about, and that their buddies at The Discovery Institute have made plainly clear, is the extent to which supposedly pious individuals who spend much of their time worshiping a specific form of God, are willing to lie, misrepresent and dissemble in order to supposedly bring others into the fold.
That is the feature of the creationist/ID movement leaders that always struck me the hardest. Their obvious willingness to tell lies for God. Gives me a creepy feeling.
And what "lies" might those be....? Can you be a tad more specific:
1.
2.
3.
??
And please show HOW they are "lies" SPECIFICALLY, to support your current Sweeping Baseless Assertion (Fallacy).
The subject has been fully discussed here already. No need to continue. Move on and take pride in your role in getting a poster who has been here for almost 20 years to leave in disgrace.
Who was that? And How on Earth am I responsible for his leaving....? And in disgrace...?
I thought he already made that clear on an extremist website. Given the fabrications he's used on here, you don't really expect him to become truthful all of a sudden, do you?
I thought he already made that clear on an extremist website. Given the fabrications he's used on here, you don't really expect him to become truthful all of a sudden, do you?
Of course I don't expect him to answer truthfully, but maybe if enough people point out what kind of a jackass he is, then he'll get the message to leave.
I'm not going to ask him to be banned since I've never asked anyone to be banned. But maybe he'll get the message and leave.
RE: RE: RE: So what is your thought on the Sandy Hook tragedy?
I thought he already made that clear on an extremist website. Given the fabrications he's used on here, you don't really expect him to become truthful all of a sudden, do you?
Of course I don't expect him to answer truthfully, but maybe if enough people point out what kind of a jackass he is, then he'll get the message to leave.
I'm not going to ask him to be banned since I've never asked anyone to be banned. But maybe he'll get the message and leave.
That's a kind thought, but I don't believe that he rises to that level of awareness.
After reflecting upon the many words here, I have "good news" for you- I will honor your requests to depart and never come back. It is obvious to me many of you believe I am anti-Semitic, a disgrace to my profession, and a hater of good science. (On top of that, I even had the audacity to root for the hated Dallas Cowboys this offseason.)
This decision became even clearer when I read the words from a dear brother in Christ, Steve in ky. I have great respect for Steve, so you guys could thank him for making it clear to me, and for you guys getting the result you obviously want.
Although I know in my heart this is the furthest thing from the truth, obviously my words, both past and present, indicate otherwise to some. I see no reason to defend my words, so I will just let it be at that.
I know some will be looking for me to start a new handle, but it is definitely not my intention to take on a 4th name.
So, I guess this is good bye. To those who really believe I am this monster many believe I am, "you are welcome" (said after you say, "thank you for leaving ") To those who are either indifferent or know me better, thank you for giving me the benefit of the doubt and for the fellowship we have shared these many years.
To God be the glory! Live long and prosper!
Spock out
It was about a series of offending behaviors over the course of that thread, from lying about whether he was aware of the linking of Jews in Israel to the Rapture by many fundamentalist Christians, to pretending that Messianic Jews love all Jews, to bringing on a hired gun to "prove" that there were other who believe as he does. It was bad behavior in the extreme. You are such a kind soul that you probably didn't focus on it, but it was maddeningly bad behavior.
Take care, and don't worry, he will figure a way to come back under a new handle. He always does.
He can't and won't change his behavior, though.
Tombstone.
Definitely agree.
Steve, while you and I disagree on the religion topic, you've always been honest and earnest in our discussions. If there were more Christians like you, I'd have much less to complain about.
What last time are you talking about? It's amazing how fucking stupid you assholes are. You contribute absolutely nothing to this place.
In the 20 years I've been involved with this board, do you know how many times I've complained about a post related to me? Once. And since it got a fucking douche banned, it obviously crossed a line because the mods agreed with me.
Sorry, can't remember all the people on here who don't like others.
I'm perhaps a future lawyer
I'm a New Yorker
I'm fucked!
'Messiah' doesn't mean king. It means anointed one.
How do I make the font small because I would put something like
Yeah I most likely make more money a year than all of you put together :)
This pretty much says it all. No real values, schoolyard responses, and likely a basement inhabitant with the rest of the vermin.
Especially when they don't relate to the thread on which they're placed.
No relevance to read when they don't relate. Maybe you should take hint from your philosophical twin Spock?
Especially when they involve an interview question that requires you to do an outer 4-table join statement.
-soda man equating how much money he makes with being a good person (and evidently his self worth) is hilarious. Thanks.
-Peter: if you weren't so damned thin skinned about every miniscule perceived slight, folks probably wouldn't antagonize you- that, and that you seem to have no problem dishing it out. Your "tough guy" bluster isn't serving it's purpose of hiding your insecurities and sensitivity; it does just the opposite, it highlights them.
IMO.
(Definitely not an opinion that's worth as much as soda man's because he makes more money than I.)
What last time are you talking about? It's amazing how fucking stupid you assholes are. You contribute absolutely nothing to this place.
In the 20 years I've been involved with this board, do you know how many times I've complained about a post related to me? Once. And since it got a fucking douche banned, it obviously crossed a line because the mods agreed with me.
You're a rat fuck. Do it once, do it a thousand times. Keep thinking you were right, whatever it doesn't matter. Nothing's going to shake your thin-skinned dish but can't take rep, period. Talk about time on the board like it matters, but you really showed your mettle (or lack thereof) in that instance.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
I actually usually agree with you and we would probably get along well in real life (as much as you can tell from forum interactions.) If my opinion was blunt it's because I think you're a smart guy, and although I think you're thin skinned, I also think you can appreciate when someone is being honest with you rather than intentionally trying to "get your goat."
Feel free to call my mother, kids, or any loved ones whatever you would like. They're not going to read it, and being that you've never met any of them- not a single opinion you have of them is based on reality- which makes it worthless- no skin off of my back.
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I'll post a picture of a whore. I'll put a quote on it and attribute the quote to your mother. Now, don't go thinking the things are related.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
I actually usually agree with you and we would probably get along well in real life (as much as you can tell from forum interactions.) If my opinion was blunt it's because I think you're a smart guy, and although I think you're thin skinned, I also think you can appreciate when someone is being honest with you rather than intentionally trying to "get your goat."
Feel free to call my mother, kids, or any loved ones whatever you would like. They're not going to read it, and being that you've never met any of them- not a single opinion you have of them is based on reality- which makes it worthless- no skin off of my back.
My post was to Nitro. Not you.
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I'll post a picture of a whore. I'll put a quote on it and attribute the quote to your mother. Now, don't go thinking the things are related.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
I actually usually agree with you and we would probably get along well in real life (as much as you can tell from forum interactions.) If my opinion was blunt it's because I think you're a smart guy, and although I think you're thin skinned, I also think you can appreciate when someone is being honest with you rather than intentionally trying to "get your goat."
Feel free to call my mother, kids, or any loved ones whatever you would like. They're not going to read it, and being that you've never met any of them- not a single opinion you have of them is based on reality- which makes it worthless- no skin off of my back.
Just email Brett for your mom's number, I assume?
:)
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In comment 12146858 Peter in Atl said:
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I'll post a picture of a whore. I'll put a quote on it and attribute the quote to your mother. Now, don't go thinking the things are related.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
I actually usually agree with you and we would probably get along well in real life (as much as you can tell from forum interactions.) If my opinion was blunt it's because I think you're a smart guy, and although I think you're thin skinned, I also think you can appreciate when someone is being honest with you rather than intentionally trying to "get your goat."
Feel free to call my mother, kids, or any loved ones whatever you would like. They're not going to read it, and being that you've never met any of them- not a single opinion you have of them is based on reality- which makes it worthless- no skin off of my back.
My post was to Nitro. Not you.
My bad.
Maybe this will answer the question...
Stephen Hawking the Crowned Grand Poobah of Science and the Pinnacle of Intellectual Atheistic Elitism states, and I quote:
"Philosophy is DEAD. It has not kept up with modern developments in science particularly in Physics. As a result Scientists have become the bearers of the torch of discovery in our quest for knowledge."----
Can you see the Clumsy Childlike Contradiction? It's a Philosophical Statement lol; ERGO, his statement is DEAD. It's a Hammer to put out a c4 fire scenario. My 10 year old daughter can run logical circles around his worshipfullness.
Then this....."Because there is a Law such as Gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing."-----
Create itself!!!!! That means it Existed PRIOR to it's Existence. ahhh, to call this Incoherent Absurdity is insulting to Incoherent Absurdity.
He didn't even say GRAVITY, he said because there is a "Law of Gravity". Oh my, ahhh, aren't Laws Immaterial Descriptions of what we Observe? How can a Law exist without existence of the thing that's being described and the one describing it?
I suggest he embark on 13th Century Alchemy...the tenets are more sound.
Also, has the Laws of Motion ever CAUSED a Billiard Ball to roll across a table?
"Create itself from nothing" ---- off the reservation is insulting to off the reservation.
And, don't you have to have @ least 2 masses for gravity? Where'd he get the masses...from nothing?
So Yes, an Amazing Scientist!! Define Straight-jacket...?
CODE = PROGRAMMER!
regards
It's "CODE"/Software----> Design ------> Designer!
Grade-Schoolers all over the land reckon the concept in less than a Planck Time.
regards
Well there Steve,
I wasn't pushing "Beliefs" on anyone. I was merely showing "HOW".... Step by Step, "evolution" isn't "Science" but a fairytale for grown-ups.
Savvy?
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that Spock and his buddy reminded me about, and that their buddies at The Discovery Institute have made plainly clear, is the extent to which supposedly pious individuals who spend much of their time worshiping a specific form of God, are willing to lie, misrepresent and dissemble in order to supposedly bring others into the fold.
That is the feature of the creationist/ID movement leaders that always struck me the hardest. Their obvious willingness to tell lies for God. Gives me a creepy feeling.
And what "lies" might those be....? Can you be a tad more specific:
1.
2.
3.
??
And please show HOW they are "lies" SPECIFICALLY, to support your current Sweeping Baseless Assertion (Fallacy).
regards
Who was that? And How on Earth am I responsible for his leaving....? And in disgrace...?
regards
What on Earth are you talking about? I don't hate anyone.
And what is a "Truther"? If it's somebody who searches for the TRUTH, then Go ahead and count me in!
regards
I thought he already made that clear on an extremist website. Given the fabrications he's used on here, you don't really expect him to become truthful all of a sudden, do you?
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You may then know what "truther" means.
I thought he already made that clear on an extremist website. Given the fabrications he's used on here, you don't really expect him to become truthful all of a sudden, do you?
Of course I don't expect him to answer truthfully, but maybe if enough people point out what kind of a jackass he is, then he'll get the message to leave.
I'm not going to ask him to be banned since I've never asked anyone to be banned. But maybe he'll get the message and leave.
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You may then know what "truther" means.
I thought he already made that clear on an extremist website. Given the fabrications he's used on here, you don't really expect him to become truthful all of a sudden, do you?
Of course I don't expect him to answer truthfully, but maybe if enough people point out what kind of a jackass he is, then he'll get the message to leave.
I'm not going to ask him to be banned since I've never asked anyone to be banned. But maybe he'll get the message and leave.
That's a kind thought, but I don't believe that he rises to that level of awareness.