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Alabama wideout Amari Cooper, considered best WR in the draft, had the #Giants on his list of teams to interview with tonight. Interesting.
WR is looking more and more like it may be our pick not because of a need but because of the value with Cooper, White and Parker. I was not thrilled with the OL in this draft at 9 leading up to the combine and today didn't change anything. In fact, I think we all have more questions than answers right now. I think Scherff, Collins and Flowers did the best of the top tier prospects but nothing that moves them up into the top ten in this draft. I hope the pass rushers step up because the top ten picks seem to be pass rushers, receivers and possibly the QBs.
They interview most of the draftable players. There's the Senior Bowl, the combine, and team visits. So I wouldn't consider "limitations" on interviews as a telling factor one way or another. They will be interviewing QB's, too. Today's draft prospect may be a free agent three or four years from now, so it pays to have interviewed them at an earlier point in their careers.
WR is looking more and more like it may be our pick not because of a need but because of the value with Cooper, White and Parker. I was not thrilled with the OL in this draft at 9 leading up to the combine and today didn't change anything. In fact, I think we all have more questions than answers right now. I think Scherff, Collins and Flowers did the best of the top tier prospects but nothing that moves them up into the top ten in this draft. I hope the pass rushers step up because the top ten picks seem to be pass rushers, receivers and possibly the QBs.
I would draft Maxx Williams before Davante Parker.
The Giants are not going to draft a WR in the first round!
I love you as a poster but you know that is a ridiculous statement. We all get that you don't want a WR but that doesn't mean we won't take one. We still have an entire FA period to go through before the draft. Writing off an entire position is very premature considering the value at 9 seems to be WR or a possible pass rusher. The Giants still could go OL but there just doesn't seem to be the value there.
I love you as a poster but you know that is a ridiculous statement. We all get that you don't want a WR but that doesn't mean we won't take one. We still have an entire FA period to go through before the draft. Writing off an entire position is very premature considering the value at 9 seems to be WR or a possible pass rusher. The Giants still could go OL but there just doesn't seem to be the value there.
I'm not writing off the position, but none of these WR's are Watkins and Evans (or OBJ for that matter) and there will be good receivers to be had all the way into day 3. It's one of the deepest positions in the draft! If the Giants needed a #1WR I would feel differently, but they don't.
I love you as a poster but you know that is a ridiculous statement. We all get that you don't want a WR but that doesn't mean we won't take one. We still have an entire FA period to go through before the draft. Writing off an entire position is very premature considering the value at 9 seems to be WR or a possible pass rusher. The Giants still could go OL but there just doesn't seem to be the value there.
I'm not writing off the position, but none of these WR's are Watkins and Evans (or OBJ for that matter) and there will be good receivers to be had all the way into day 3. It's one of the deepest positions in the draft! If the Giants needed a #1WR I would feel differently, but they don't.
That is just your opinion though. Also, last year's class can arguably be the best class ever so that may not be a fair comparison. Mike Evans was a big man who can run who ran a limited route tree and only played on the right side of the formation in college. Watkins was great but he had his warts too with route running. He is also not that big at 6'1", I think. These WRs this year are just different. White to me is very similar to Watkins. He may not have the same top end speed but they are very similar players. I understand the concerns with Cooper but he was still extremely productive.
You are correct that this is a deep draft at WR but that doesn't mean things will line up for us in the second, third, etc. You have to take the value when it is there and right now that is what it seems to be lining up like in the first, imo.
I fully expect the Giants to address the OL in FA so they don't have to reach in the draft. There are other developmental types that they have met with that I would prefer in the third round or later. We just have to keep hitting on our picks. We really can't afford to miss on these early picks.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Takes the top off the defense and throws it in the trash. Elite explosiveness. Gets to top speed quickly and is a seamless glider on crossing routes, leaving man-to-man defenses in his wake. Can work outside and from the slot. Elevates and attacks contested catches. Outstanding body control and can adjust to the ball in mid-air. Mind-boggling big-play production with half of his catches going for 25-plus yards in 2014. More than just a vertical-only receiver and has the blazing feet and stop-start to beat zone coverage for big plays.
WEAKNESSES Had partial tear of MCL in 2013. Still raw in his routes, relying on pure speed. Inconsistent with his hand placement to catch and lets the ball get on top of him. Small frame and will have to withstand hits over the middle as a slot receiver.
NFL COMPARISON John Brown
BOTTOM LINE Dorsett is an ascending prospect who has averaged more than 25 yards per catch since 2012. He can challenge teams vertically inside or outside and he has home-run potential after the catch as a slot receiver. With smaller wide receivers like T.Y. Hilton and Antonio Brown proving that small and fast can win in the NFL, Dorsett should be coveted by more than one team and has the potential to turn into a star in the NFL. Link - ( New Window )
Our opinions differ on the value of the WR's in the top ten and on the Giants ability to add another starter in free agency. Ergo, that is why I believe there is no way the Giants draft a WR in round one and why you think it is possible.
On the other hand, if the Giants draft Maxx Williams in round one I am totally onboard. Right now Maxx Williams is being projected similarly to where OBJ was being projected prior to the 2014 combine, so it's not inconceivable that the draftniks are behind the curve on his value to NFL scouts.
Kevin White and Amari Cooper are worthy of a top ten selection, but that is why they will both be gone by the time the Giants are on the clock. And drafting Davante Parker in the first round isn't going to help the team anymore than drafting Greene, Dorsett, Lockette, or Ty Montgomery would in the third or fourth rounds.
Just my opinion.
p.s.-- What if you draft Parker at #9 and Cruz returns to his previous form? Then you just spent a top ten pick on a WR who will spend his rookie year competing for the #3 WR role with Randle. And after four years, he will leave via free agency. Is that what you want?
The Giants need weapons. It gives them something they don't currently have and that is a tall red zone target that can also get behind a defense. That opens things up for Beckham or vice versa. I don't look at that as a waste. WRs are like pass rushers. The more the better. You can get them all on the field. It is totally different than having like 7 OL. You aren't going to get all 7 OL on the field. You can get these weapons on the field. It is anything but a waste. The Giants can easily get 3 WRs on the field with a TE and RB. I like White because even though he is a bigger WR he can also play in the slot. With McAdoo's offense, you don't need a traditional slot like Cruz. Look at Chip Kelly. He put Jordan Matthews in the slot because he likes the way he can block from that inside spot. Matthews had a very good rookie year. McAdoo did an outstanding job freeing up Beckham by moving him all over the formation. Having a WR like White would only add to that imagination. Parker would be more of just an outside threat but he can still move Cruz and Beckham around. Remember, Cruz said he was going to play the Cobb role in this offense where he can line up in the backfield and all over. We saw McAdoo do that with Beckham. The more the better. Remember how rigid Gilbride's offense was when we lost Plax? You needed to have players to fit roles. Hixon couldn't do it and it wasn't fair to ask him to do it. McAdoo is the opposite. He finds out what you can do well and adapts to that. Adding another playmaker is only a good thing.
And I am not saying that we need to draft a WR at 9
But, like WR, this draft has depth along the OL. It just isn't top heavy. There are pass rushers in this draft but like the last few years most are undersized for a 4-3 defense. Fowler is an interesting prospect. Some feel he goes higher than 9 because he has the pass rush ability and size that these other guys don't. I just don't see another pass rusher other than Fowler that will either be available at 9 or is worth the 9th pick. I really like Shelton but it seems like he will not get passed Chicago at 7.
Is not a top 10 pick. He will be lucky to make it in round 1. If we took him over Cooper, White or Parker I'd have to seriously considering giving up on the Giants. Lol not that wouldn't happen, but it would be a terrible pick.
Randle may be gone after the year and Cruz may never be the same.
Take a look at Reese's draft pattern over the top 3 rounds. It's overwhelmingly CB, WR and DL.All other positions are acquired via FA or later in the draft with occasional exceptions due to need.
With that in mind only way we go TE at 9 is if he is a Shockey/Graham/Gronk and glaring BPA. Maxx is not that Level.
is the only guy in this years class of WR's who can excute a double move in the same stratosphere as OBJ. I think his size will make him available after the first, but putting him together with OBJ and Cruz and it would be a nightmare for anyone having to face us.
p.s.-- What if you draft Parker at #9 and Cruz returns to his previous form? Then you just spent a top ten pick on a WR who will spend his rookie year competing for the #3 WR role with Randle. And after four years, he will leave via free agency. Is that what you want?
You draft the BPA.. and you definitely dont draft a TE who has a second round grade in the Top Ten..
OBJ was projected by most that I saw last year between 14 and 18.. I dont see anyone anywhere projecting him as a TOP TEN pick..
The Giants arent stupid enough to take him in the Top Ten..
Now as far as them interviewing Cooper.. they would be silly NOT To look at every potential target in the top ten..
I'm talking about this time of year, not in April. Check the archives. Nobody was talking about OBJ as "between 14 and 18" before last year's combine. He didn't even make Mayock's top 5 WR's until after last year's combine.
You draft the BPA.. and you definitely dont draft a TE who has a second round grade in the Top Ten..
But what if the TE has a top ten grade and is the BPA? We have no idea how the Giants will grade Maxx Williams, just as we have no idea how the Giants will grade the WR's or the OL. My point is that if the Giants do happen to have a top ten grade on Maxx Williams, they will draft him before they would draft an equally graded WR.
p.s. -- Anyone who thinks they have a clue as to how the Giants draft board will look hasn't been paying attention the last twenty or thirty years!
Randle may be gone after the year and Cruz may never be the same.
That's why you draft a WR on day two or three, not why you draft one on day one.
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Take a look at Reese's draft pattern over the top 3 rounds. It's overwhelmingly CB, WR and DL.
It's not enough of a sample set to draw conclusions. The Giants' needs and the market's supply and demand is what dictates the Giants choices much more so than some draft philosophy that puts an emphasis on certain positions over others.
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With that in mind only way we go TE at 9 is if he is a Shockey/Graham/Gronk and glaring BPA.
I agree that they only draft a TE if they have a BPA grade on him.
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Maxx is not that Level.
According to you, but the Giants scouts may see him differently. We have no clue! You or I would be amazed if we ever got a look at one of the Giants draft boards. It would look nothing like what we see from Mayock or Kiper or Colin or any draftnik. In the 2001 draft, it was revealed that the Giants had Santana Moss and Nate Clements as their #2 and #4 rated prospects overall. They wound up going #16 and #21 overall.
I only mention TE because the Giants could use a Pro Bowl quality TE who can catch and block a lot more than they need another Pro Bowl quality WR who will leave after four years in OBJ's shadow. Whether or not they have Maxx Williams rated that way is anybody's guess.
Randle may be gone after the year and Cruz may never be the same.
That's why you draft a WR on day two or three, not why you draft one on day one.
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Take a look at Reese's draft pattern over the top 3 rounds. It's overwhelmingly CB, WR and DL.
It's not enough of a sample set to draw conclusions. The Giants' needs and the market's supply and demand is what dictates the Giants choices much more so than some draft philosophy that puts an emphasis on certain positions over others.
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With that in mind only way we go TE at 9 is if he is a Shockey/Graham/Gronk and glaring BPA.
I agree that they only draft a TE if they have a BPA grade on him.
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Maxx is not that Level.
According to you, but the Giants scouts may see him differently. We have no clue! You or I would be amazed if we ever got a look at one of the Giants draft boards. It would look nothing like what we see from Mayock or Kiper or Colin or any draftnik. In the 2001 draft, it was revealed that the Giants had Santana Moss and Nate Clements as their #2 and #4 rated prospects overall. They wound up going #16 and #21 overall.
I only mention TE because the Giants could use a Pro Bowl quality TE who can catch and block a lot more than they need another Pro Bowl quality WR who will leave after four years in OBJ's shadow. Whether or not they have Maxx Williams rated that way is anybody's guess.
Randle may be gone after the year and Cruz may never be the same.
That's why you draft a WR on day two or three, not why you draft one on day one.
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Take a look at Reese's draft pattern over the top 3 rounds. It's overwhelmingly CB, WR and DL.
It's not enough of a sample set to draw conclusions. The Giants' needs and the market's supply and demand is what dictates the Giants choices much more so than some draft philosophy that puts an emphasis on certain positions over others.
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With that in mind only way we go TE at 9 is if he is a Shockey/Graham/Gronk and glaring BPA.
I agree that they only draft a TE if they have a BPA grade on him.
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Maxx is not that Level.
According to you, but the Giants scouts may see him differently. We have no clue! You or I would be amazed if we ever got a look at one of the Giants draft boards. It would look nothing like what we see from Mayock or Kiper or Colin or any draftnik. In the 2001 draft, it was revealed that the Giants had Santana Moss and Nate Clements as their #2 and #4 rated prospects overall. They wound up going #16 and #21 overall.
I only mention TE because the Giants could use a Pro Bowl quality TE who can catch and block a lot more than they need another Pro Bowl quality WR who will leave after four years in OBJ's shadow. Whether or not they have Maxx Williams rated that way is anybody's guess.
that buss is coming form draft and fan sites. just because they have 3 wrs rated at #9 value does not mean Giants do.
Most were shocked by Giants 1st round pick last year. Few saw that coming.
Giants wanted to draft an OT last year. Had Beckham been gone and Lewan available, Lewan may have been the pick. And, OT is the least likely thing to get fixed in free agency. IMO, it will be a player like Peat, Scherff, Collins or Dupree.
Round 2 may very well be another lineman - maybe a DT or an OG.
To start, I disagree the sample size is too small as it is 10 drafts + between GM and top scout evaluator. Next, when you listen to the full collection of Reese's draft comments combined with some of what the insiders have said here at BBI, it is pretty clear certain positions are valued much higher at the top of the draft for a few reasons:
One, this is a passing league so the positions that most impact the passing game offensively or defensively are valued the highest.
Second, supply and demand of free agency usually allows a team to get some of the other positions without paying a hefty premium like OG and LB.
Third, the positional impact to the passing game relative to the system we run has to be accounted for.
Fourth, Reese that high up is usually looking for both elite production and top measurables in most categories.
Max Williams simply does not have elite measurables for the TE position. I also dont see a player so special there that he would overcome the lack of measurables to be a Shockey or Graham like talent.
We may not know the Giants board but we know enough about them to draw some reasonable or high percentage conclusions. OBJ and Nate BTW both had elite measurables in most of the critical categories you look at for their respective positions.
is the only guy in this years class of WR's who can excute a double move in the same stratosphere as OBJ. I think his size will make him available after the first, but putting him together with OBJ and Cruz and it would be a nightmare for anyone having to face us.
Charlie Campbell 3 minutes ago
Scouts say that Phillip Dorsett is a more polished, better version of Mike Wallace. They feel Dorsett could go early in the second round.
If the Giants are on the clock and making a selection and the available player they believe is BPA is a WR you better believe they aren't passing him up because the have other needs.
Whether that scenario unfolds is anyone's guess, but you can't say it won't.
the fact that Cruz still isn't able to run yet makes it a strong possibility that the Giants will cover there bet and take Cooper if he's there as insurance against the possibility of Cruz not making it back to 100%
the Giants definitely won't take a WR in round 1. I actually think that pick 9 will either be an OL, WR, or DL. WR might be the most likely choice at #9. Also if Cooper somehow falls to 9 there is no way Reese would pass on him.
should see how much of a need WR was after Cruz went down.
Randle is inconsistent and in the final year of his contract.
Cruz is coming off a major knee injury and it is very possible that he will never be the same player.
Preston Parker was a pleasant surprise but he is nothing more than a 4th receiver/special teamer.
Preseason star Corey Washington is raw and hasn't shown much. This will be an important offseason for him.
Marcus Harris was a very intriguing player last year. He was the star of the practices and was a lock for a roster spot until his injury. Was last year a fluke? Can he recover from the injury and contribute to the offense?
Ogletree is a journeyman who may not make the roster.
Jernigan is not likely to return and he was a big disappointment last year.
So outside of Beckham the Giants have a bunch of question marks. WR is a huge need and I would be surprised if they do not take a WR on day one or two unless of course they sign a legit starter in free agency.
I don't mind waiting either and grabbing Philip Dorsett out of the Miami. But Cooper or White would be great. Cruz we are not sure about, and RR is playing in his contract year. So adding another WR to make this offense better is a damn good thing.
Cooper - OBJ - Cruz in the slot?
If you can patch up the O-line, that's pretty much as onstoppable as it gets. That's objectively better than Nicks - Manningham - Cruz.
And we all know what happened last time we gave Eli 3 good WRs...
The Giants are not going to draft a WR in the first round!
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I love you as a poster but you know that is a ridiculous statement. We all get that you don't want a WR but that doesn't mean we won't take one. We still have an entire FA period to go through before the draft. Writing off an entire position is very premature considering the value at 9 seems to be WR or a possible pass rusher. The Giants still could go OL but there just doesn't seem to be the value there.
I'm not writing off the position, but none of these WR's are Watkins and Evans (or OBJ for that matter) and there will be good receivers to be had all the way into day 3. It's one of the deepest positions in the draft! If the Giants needed a #1WR I would feel differently, but they don't.
That is just your opinion though. Also, last year's class can arguably be the best class ever so that may not be a fair comparison. Mike Evans was a big man who can run who ran a limited route tree and only played on the right side of the formation in college. Watkins was great but he had his warts too with route running. He is also not that big at 6'1", I think. These WRs this year are just different. White to me is very similar to Watkins. He may not have the same top end speed but they are very similar players. I understand the concerns with Cooper but he was still extremely productive.
You are correct that this is a deep draft at WR but that doesn't mean things will line up for us in the second, third, etc. You have to take the value when it is there and right now that is what it seems to be lining up like in the first, imo.
I fully expect the Giants to address the OL in FA so they don't have to reach in the draft. There are other developmental types that they have met with that I would prefer in the third round or later. We just have to keep hitting on our picks. We really can't afford to miss on these early picks.
5'10' - 183lbs
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Takes the top off the defense and throws it in the trash. Elite explosiveness. Gets to top speed quickly and is a seamless glider on crossing routes, leaving man-to-man defenses in his wake. Can work outside and from the slot. Elevates and attacks contested catches. Outstanding body control and can adjust to the ball in mid-air. Mind-boggling big-play production with half of his catches going for 25-plus yards in 2014. More than just a vertical-only receiver and has the blazing feet and stop-start to beat zone coverage for big plays.
WEAKNESSES Had partial tear of MCL in 2013. Still raw in his routes, relying on pure speed. Inconsistent with his hand placement to catch and lets the ball get on top of him. Small frame and will have to withstand hits over the middle as a slot receiver.
NFL COMPARISON John Brown
BOTTOM LINE Dorsett is an ascending prospect who has averaged more than 25 yards per catch since 2012. He can challenge teams vertically inside or outside and he has home-run potential after the catch as a slot receiver. With smaller wide receivers like T.Y. Hilton and Antonio Brown proving that small and fast can win in the NFL, Dorsett should be coveted by more than one team and has the potential to turn into a star in the NFL.
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Sam Carter, S, TCU (EW)
T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (COM)
David Cobb, RB, Minnesota (COM)
Justin Coleman, CB, Tennessee (EW)
Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami (Fla.) (SR%)
B.J. Finney, C, Kansas State (EW)
Sean Hickey, OT, Syracuse (COM)
David Johnson, RB, Northern Iowa (SR)
Steven Nelson, CB, Oregon State (SR)
Owamagbe Odighizuwa, DE, UCLA (SR)
Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M (COM)
Jake Ryan, OLB/ILB, Michigan (EW)
Brandon Scherff, OT, Iowa (COM)
Josh Shaw, CB/S, Southern California (EW)
Blake Sims, QB, Alabama (COM)
Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State (SR)
Tye Smith, CB, Towson (EW)
Jaquiski Tartt, S, Samford (SR)
Lynden Trail, DE/3-4OLB/OLB, Norfolk State (SR)
Clive Walford, TE, Miami (Fla.) (SR)
On the other hand, if the Giants draft Maxx Williams in round one I am totally onboard. Right now Maxx Williams is being projected similarly to where OBJ was being projected prior to the 2014 combine, so it's not inconceivable that the draftniks are behind the curve on his value to NFL scouts.
Kevin White and Amari Cooper are worthy of a top ten selection, but that is why they will both be gone by the time the Giants are on the clock. And drafting Davante Parker in the first round isn't going to help the team anymore than drafting Greene, Dorsett, Lockette, or Ty Montgomery would in the third or fourth rounds.
Just my opinion.
p.s.-- What if you draft Parker at #9 and Cruz returns to his previous form? Then you just spent a top ten pick on a WR who will spend his rookie year competing for the #3 WR role with Randle. And after four years, he will leave via free agency. Is that what you want?
The Giants arent stupid enough to take him in the Top Ten..
Now as far as them interviewing Cooper.. they would be silly NOT To look at every potential target in the top ten..
Raiders salivate over the size /speed athlete. They may go Parker or White even without AL calling the shots anymore.
Take a look at Reese's draft pattern over the top 3 rounds. It's overwhelmingly CB, WR and DL.All other positions are acquired via FA or later in the draft with occasional exceptions due to need.
With that in mind only way we go TE at 9 is if he is a Shockey/Graham/Gronk and glaring BPA. Maxx is not that Level.
Is anyone else seeing this?
p.s.-- What if you draft Parker at #9 and Cruz returns to his previous form? Then you just spent a top ten pick on a WR who will spend his rookie year competing for the #3 WR role with Randle. And after four years, he will leave via free agency. Is that what you want?
You draft the BPA.. and you definitely dont draft a TE who has a second round grade in the Top Ten..
Trips formations would be a friggin nightmare..
Empty backfield.. 4 yrs.... Good luck...
Ill worry about the contracts after I shine up the Lombardi..
Is anyone else seeing this?
The Giants arent stupid enough to take him in the Top Ten..
Now as far as them interviewing Cooper.. they would be silly NOT To look at every potential target in the top ten..
p.s. -- Anyone who thinks they have a clue as to how the Giants draft board will look hasn't been paying attention the last twenty or thirty years!
I only mention TE because the Giants could use a Pro Bowl quality TE who can catch and block a lot more than they need another Pro Bowl quality WR who will leave after four years in OBJ's shadow. Whether or not they have Maxx Williams rated that way is anybody's guess.
I only mention TE because the Giants could use a Pro Bowl quality TE who can catch and block a lot more than they need another Pro Bowl quality WR who will leave after four years in OBJ's shadow. Whether or not they have Maxx Williams rated that way is anybody's guess.
I only mention TE because the Giants could use a Pro Bowl quality TE who can catch and block a lot more than they need another Pro Bowl quality WR who will leave after four years in OBJ's shadow. Whether or not they have Maxx Williams rated that way is anybody's guess.
Most were shocked by Giants 1st round pick last year. Few saw that coming.
Giants wanted to draft an OT last year. Had Beckham been gone and Lewan available, Lewan may have been the pick. And, OT is the least likely thing to get fixed in free agency. IMO, it will be a player like Peat, Scherff, Collins or Dupree.
Round 2 may very well be another lineman - maybe a DT or an OG.
To start, I disagree the sample size is too small as it is 10 drafts + between GM and top scout evaluator. Next, when you listen to the full collection of Reese's draft comments combined with some of what the insiders have said here at BBI, it is pretty clear certain positions are valued much higher at the top of the draft for a few reasons:
One, this is a passing league so the positions that most impact the passing game offensively or defensively are valued the highest.
Second, supply and demand of free agency usually allows a team to get some of the other positions without paying a hefty premium like OG and LB.
Third, the positional impact to the passing game relative to the system we run has to be accounted for.
Fourth, Reese that high up is usually looking for both elite production and top measurables in most categories.
Max Williams simply does not have elite measurables for the TE position. I also dont see a player so special there that he would overcome the lack of measurables to be a Shockey or Graham like talent.
We may not know the Giants board but we know enough about them to draw some reasonable or high percentage conclusions. OBJ and Nate BTW both had elite measurables in most of the critical categories you look at for their respective positions.
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Did Milton just say we should take Maxx Williams (who ran a 4.7 40 today) at #9?
Is anyone else seeing this?
I said before they should draft a WR.
No. You said:
"On the other hand, if the Giants draft Maxx Williams in round one I am totally onboard."
I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.
"On the other hand, if the Giants draft Maxx Williams in round one I am totally onboard."
You're wasting everyone's time with this rubbish.
4.35 for Dorsett. Goodness that was fast.
Charlie Campbell 3 minutes ago
Scouts say that Phillip Dorsett is a more polished, better version of Mike Wallace. They feel Dorsett could go early in the second round.
Whether that scenario unfolds is anyone's guess, but you can't say it won't.
Randle is inconsistent and in the final year of his contract.
Cruz is coming off a major knee injury and it is very possible that he will never be the same player.
Preston Parker was a pleasant surprise but he is nothing more than a 4th receiver/special teamer.
Preseason star Corey Washington is raw and hasn't shown much. This will be an important offseason for him.
Marcus Harris was a very intriguing player last year. He was the star of the practices and was a lock for a roster spot until his injury. Was last year a fluke? Can he recover from the injury and contribute to the offense?
Ogletree is a journeyman who may not make the roster.
Jernigan is not likely to return and he was a big disappointment last year.
So outside of Beckham the Giants have a bunch of question marks. WR is a huge need and I would be surprised if they do not take a WR on day one or two unless of course they sign a legit starter in free agency.