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2015 NFL COMBINE DAY 3 THREAD DL, LB

sjnyfan : 2/22/2015 8:55 am
Just like Day 1 of the combine, there are alot of players looking to gain separation on their draft status. It will also be followed very closely as it can very well be in play with the 9th pick.

Unfortunately, Shane Ray won't be participating due to injury. However his teammate, Markus Golden can help himself with a strong showing. Another pair of SEC teammates will be looking for a strong day as well. Kentucky's Alvin 'Bud' Dupree (who actually will be performing with the LBs) I think will light it up today, although I'm not sold on him as the 9th pick. His teammate Za'Darius Smith had a very good Shrine Week and can capitalize with a good day. Speaking of strong All Star weeks, Carl Davis from Iowa was one of the best players at the Senior Bowl regardless of position. However some choice words at interviews raise questions about work ethic. Depending on his interviews this week as well as his workout today can go a long way to solidifying a first rd grade. There are several names in play including Danny Shelton with his massive size, Dante Fowler who arguably has the top motor and Randy Fregory, who has a high ceiling but a low floor. But overall this is a talented bunch performing today. New names will emerge. There are many candidates but two that I'll be looking for are LSU's Danielle Hunter and Clemson's Grady Jarret. I think they're both a bit under the radar who could have very good days today.

At LB, my top two are Eric Kendricks and Clemson's Stephone Anthony. I think they will have good days. This year's Chris Borland will be Denzel Perryman. He's short,squatty, bulky and I don't think he'll time well but so what? He's a football player. I'm not a fan of Benardrick McKinney at ILB, especially at 9 but he's a bit of a freakish athlete too. Depending on how he performs though I'd wonder if some teams start considering him at OLB which I think he'd be a better player at the pro level. Paul Dawson of TCU will time well but REALLY needed to nail his interviews if he wants a chance to be a high pick. Red Flags. Shaq Thompson will only be performing as a LB so he'll need to nail it. Two underrated players that I'd like to see in blue that are underrated are Ben Heeney and Martrell Spaight.
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Malcolm didnt run under 5  
Jerry's Kids : 2/22/2015 12:40 pm : link
I don't think. More of run stuffer but, who knows.
Beasley was very impressive  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 2/22/2015 12:40 pm : link
imo
With so many perceived questions about this draft class  
Giants2012 : 2/22/2015 12:41 pm : link
what does that say about how overrated Shawn Oakman is?

IMO, the Tarzan frame who played like Jane going back to school speaks volumes considering the elite talent in this draft appear to be lacking.

RE: Malcolm didnt run under 5  
Rflairr : 2/22/2015 12:44 pm : link
In comment 12147902 Jerry's Kids said:
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I don't think. More of run stuffer but, who knows.


No Malcolm is a heck of pass rusher for a DT
RE: Malcolm didnt run under 5  
yatqb : 2/22/2015 12:47 pm : link
In comment 12147902 Jerry's Kids said:
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I don't think. More of run stuffer but, who knows.


Nope, he's a penetrating 3. He gets into the backfield a lot.
Odi with a 39 vertical  
jeff57 : 2/22/2015 12:51 pm : link
Second only to Beasley. Would be perfect for the Giants. Too bad he probably won't last to 40.
And Odi with a 10-7 broad jump  
jeff57 : 2/22/2015 12:53 pm : link
Third best.
Wow, had Preston Smith do LB drills! And he looked good!  
yatqb : 2/22/2015 12:55 pm : link
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RE: And Odi with a 10-7 broad jump  
yatqb : 2/22/2015 12:57 pm : link
In comment 12147921 jeff57 said:
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Third best.


Odi seems a prototypical Giant pick. But he's likely to go late 1st, I'd guess.
The Pugh mistake?  
Reale01 : 2/22/2015 12:57 pm : link
Wow! Who should have been the pick in retrospect?
RE: The Pugh mistake?  
chris r : 2/22/2015 1:11 pm : link
In comment 12147925 Reale01 said:
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Wow! Who should have been the pick in retrospect?


See for yourself here.
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RE: The Pugh mistake?  
Klaatu : 2/22/2015 1:21 pm : link
In comment 12147925 Reale01 said:
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Wow! Who should have been the pick in retrospect?


Tyler Eifert.

Yeah...I still can't let it go.
Henry Anderson is another DE/Nascar DT who intrigues me.  
yatqb : 2/22/2015 1:23 pm : link
1.63 10 yard at 294 pounds, and shows that quickness off the snap on the field.
crazy how underrated  
area junc : 2/22/2015 1:24 pm : link
beasley's been on the amateur draft sites around the net. he's arguably the best player after leonard williams in the entire draft. elite pass rusher

i dont think theres a prayer he's on the board at 9 but if he is, we have to take him
I think its because he was considered too small  
chris r : 2/22/2015 1:24 pm : link
now that he's bulked up 10 lbs and shown he's still super athletic his stock should rocket.
Dupree  
jayg5 : 2/22/2015 1:27 pm : link
42 inch vertical, also best standing broad jump
Hope he still isn't in convo at 9 even after impressive numbers
mabye so  
area junc : 2/22/2015 1:27 pm : link
but his movement abilities are alien-like. and he's been a sick pass rusher from the jump. not a 1-hit wonder. proven sack master against big competition
I did look  
Reale01 : 2/22/2015 1:31 pm : link
I understand what you are saying as I initially thought the same thing. However, in retrospect I think the Giants did well.


Kyle Long
Tyler Eifert
Desmond Trufant
Sharrif Floyd
Bjoern Werner
Xavier Rhodes
Datone Jones
DeAndre Hopkins
Sylvester Williams
Cordarrelle Patterson
Alec Ogletree
Travis Frederick
Matt Elam

At the time I remember talk of Werner or Jones or Shariff glad we got Pugh. Then Hankins in round 2. Also Chicago tool Long with the next pick so I don't think ALL the OLs were gone. Certainly NOT a mistake.
LB 40s about to start  
sjnyfan : 2/22/2015 1:33 pm : link
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Dupree  
sjnyfan : 2/22/2015 1:36 pm : link
11'6" broad jump
Great time for Anthony  
Mike in NY : 2/22/2015 1:38 pm : link
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Stephone Anthony  
sjnyfan : 2/22/2015 1:38 pm : link
4.57
BTW LB18  
sjnyfan : 2/22/2015 1:42 pm : link
was supposed to be AJ Johnson but he was uninvited. I don't ever remember that happening. Aggravated rape charge earlier this month. He was a fringe draft pick without red flags but he may not even be signed as a UDFA now. Certainly off of the Giants board.
Dawson  
sjnyfan : 2/22/2015 1:42 pm : link
4.95 but looked like he pulled up
Bud Dupree  
sjnyfan : 2/22/2015 1:43 pm : link
1.60 10 yd split

4.57
bud Dupree  
cokeduplt : 2/22/2015 1:45 pm : link
seems very likely to me at 9
RE: Stephone Anthony  
Mike in NY : 2/22/2015 1:45 pm : link
In comment 12147972 sjnyfan said:
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4.57


I thought I saw him at 4.59
Could be my mistake  
sjnyfan : 2/22/2015 1:52 pm : link
Mike
Eric Kendricks  
sjnyfan : 2/22/2015 1:53 pm : link
1.64 10 yd split

4.66
Nope 4.57  
Big Rick in FL : 2/22/2015 1:54 pm : link
For Dupree. Also had a 42 inch vertical & 11'6 broad jump at 269 pounds. That's insane.
Benardrick McKinney  
sjnyfan : 2/22/2015 1:55 pm : link
1.74 10 yd

4.78
Perryman  
sjnyfan : 2/22/2015 1:56 pm : link
1.69 split

4.81
Mayock  
Mike in NY : 2/22/2015 1:58 pm : link
Just stop
Good time for Kendricks  
Big Rick in FL : 2/22/2015 2:03 pm : link
Not bad for McKinney. Slower than I thought though.

Sy any opinions on Bud Dupree? He's going to be talked about a lot to the Giants I'm sure. Good size, decent arm length and hands. Very explosive. Anybody know his bench?
Shaq Thompson  
sjnyfan : 2/22/2015 2:03 pm : link
1.78 10 yd split

4.72
Shaq  
Big Rick in FL : 2/22/2015 2:04 pm : link
With a terrible time.
Big Rick  
sjnyfan : 2/22/2015 2:05 pm : link
I don't think Dupree lifted this week. He's also not going to do anymore today. Might be related to a groin injury he had at the end of the season
Ahh ok  
Big Rick in FL : 2/22/2015 2:06 pm : link
Yeah I didn't see it anywhere. Figured he probably didn't.

Sj any opinions on him at 9?
RE: Shaq  
jeff57 : 2/22/2015 2:08 pm : link
In comment 12147997 Big Rick in FL said:
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With a terrible time.


Looks like he got off to a bad start.
I think Dupree is cementing himself as an OLB in a 3-4  
robbieballs2003 : 2/22/2015 2:08 pm : link
Watching film on him he gets pushed around too easily when he has his hand down in the dirt unless he just flew by the OL. With his explosive numbers I think he is a perfect OLB in a 3-4.
Right now I think Dupree is more of an athlete  
sjnyfan : 2/22/2015 2:16 pm : link
than football player. He's going to need some coaching up. There's some inconsistency in his game, he doesn't always diagnose plays well which makes him a step late and gets him taken out of the play. I hear comparisons to NE's Jamie Collins because of the athleticism but even Collins was a late 2nd rounder who needed coaching up by one of the best defensive minds ever in Belichick and it's still a work in progress, though you can see the light come on last year. Loads of potential but 9 is too high. I wouldn't mind 40 and hopefully you can put polish to his game. I see him as a situation sub package rush guy early in his career.
If Beasley were our pick  
chopperhatch : 2/22/2015 2:16 pm : link
Where woukd he play? Will Im assuming? Anybody know about him in coverage?
Never saw Dawson  
sjnyfan : 2/22/2015 2:17 pm : link
as a guy running a 4.95 or 4.96
Soo many good rushers  
CromartiesKid21 : 2/22/2015 2:25 pm : link
in the 3-4 that will be available around when Giants pick. Its a shame we will miss out on top end talent because of the 4-3 scheme.
Dawson is going to be a steal for someone  
chris r : 2/22/2015 2:34 pm : link
no way is he that slow.
RE: RE: Stephone Anthony  
Coach Mason : 2/22/2015 2:35 pm : link
In comment 12147977 Mike in NY said:
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4.57



I thought I saw him at 4.59


Stephone is going to be a great cover LB. One of the few LBs I'd like to see the Giants target.
RE: If Beasley were our pick  
jeff57 : 2/22/2015 3:40 pm : link
In comment 12148009 chopperhatch said:s
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Where woukd he play? Will Im assuming? Anybody know about him in coverage?


He's played the line. Don't see him as a 4-3 OLB. He's either a 4-3 DE or a 3-4 OLB.
I still really like Danny Shelton  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 2/22/2015 6:07 pm : link
he's just such a tank. But his 10yd split is scary slow and he tends to play high. Slow off the snap + poor leverage = awful awful combination. I still think he's such a powerful guy who can eat so much space that he's still a Top 10 player in this draft and best DLineman after Williams.

But as far as the Giants are concerned, there are better fits at DT who could be had in a slight trade down. And they're not THAT much worse than Shelton.
Funny Crack from Seahawks Combine Blog  
Percy : 2/22/2015 6:25 pm : link
"Mayock says of this linebacker group: 'They all have hands like feet.'”
RE: If Beasley were our pick  
area junc : 2/22/2015 6:36 pm : link
In comment 12148009 chopperhatch said:
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Where woukd he play? Will Im assuming? Anybody know about him in coverage?



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he's been describing himself as a Von Miller or Bruce Irvin to teams when they ask him. miller plays 43 SLB and DEnd in the subpackages and is a perennial DPOY candidate when hes healthy. imo beasley is faster than miller and miller is more physical

if we took him, i assume spags would play him at SLB dusting off the 50 fronts from 07. and then osi's job in the subs
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