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2015 NFL COMBINE DAY 3 THREAD DL, LB

sjnyfan : 2/22/2015 8:55 am
Just like Day 1 of the combine, there are alot of players looking to gain separation on their draft status. It will also be followed very closely as it can very well be in play with the 9th pick.

Unfortunately, Shane Ray won't be participating due to injury. However his teammate, Markus Golden can help himself with a strong showing. Another pair of SEC teammates will be looking for a strong day as well. Kentucky's Alvin 'Bud' Dupree (who actually will be performing with the LBs) I think will light it up today, although I'm not sold on him as the 9th pick. His teammate Za'Darius Smith had a very good Shrine Week and can capitalize with a good day. Speaking of strong All Star weeks, Carl Davis from Iowa was one of the best players at the Senior Bowl regardless of position. However some choice words at interviews raise questions about work ethic. Depending on his interviews this week as well as his workout today can go a long way to solidifying a first rd grade. There are several names in play including Danny Shelton with his massive size, Dante Fowler who arguably has the top motor and Randy Fregory, who has a high ceiling but a low floor. But overall this is a talented bunch performing today. New names will emerge. There are many candidates but two that I'll be looking for are LSU's Danielle Hunter and Clemson's Grady Jarret. I think they're both a bit under the radar who could have very good days today.

At LB, my top two are Eric Kendricks and Clemson's Stephone Anthony. I think they will have good days. This year's Chris Borland will be Denzel Perryman. He's short,squatty, bulky and I don't think he'll time well but so what? He's a football player. I'm not a fan of Benardrick McKinney at ILB, especially at 9 but he's a bit of a freakish athlete too. Depending on how he performs though I'd wonder if some teams start considering him at OLB which I think he'd be a better player at the pro level. Paul Dawson of TCU will time well but REALLY needed to nail his interviews if he wants a chance to be a high pick. Red Flags. Shaq Thompson will only be performing as a LB so he'll need to nail it. Two underrated players that I'd like to see in blue that are underrated are Ben Heeney and Martrell Spaight.
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Kansas Mike LB  
Carl in CT : 2/22/2015 6:58 pm : link
Ben Heeney faster 3 cone then ODB. Sick!!!
I feel better having Spags on the staff, because I think he  
CT Charlie : 2/22/2015 7:59 pm : link
has a better idea of what he wants for his scheme than Perry did.
RE: RE: If Beasley were our pick  
Stupendamatic : 2/22/2015 10:39 pm : link
In comment 12148192 area junc said:
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Where woukd he play? Will Im assuming? Anybody know about him in coverage?




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he's been describing himself as a Von Miller or Bruce Irvin to teams when they ask him. miller plays 43 SLB and DEnd in the subpackages and is a perennial DPOY candidate when hes healthy. imo beasley is faster than miller and miller is more physical

if we took him, i assume spags would play him at SLB dusting off the 50 fronts from 07. and then osi's job in the subs


The position Kiwi started to look good in before going on IR that year.

I could get behind a SAM  
chopperhatch : 2/22/2015 11:03 pm : link
Who can convert to a pass rusher on 3rd or obvious passing downs.
Philosophical question  
Torrag : 2/23/2015 11:26 am : link
Does the Giants aborted signing signing of O'Brien Schofield due to medicals preface a new willingness to delve into the hybrid pass rushers market? If so we may all be surprised by the #9 pick...
He's listed as a DE by the Seahawks  
JonC : 2/23/2015 11:36 am : link
6'3 260, and I don't recall seeing him in space too often. I don't recall if they use him more as a fifth DL or not, so is he really a hybrid.

I don't see 260# there  
Torrag : 2/23/2015 11:46 am : link
and his Combine medicals had him at 6'2 221# coming out which tend to be much more accurate than team bios. He's essentially a rotational pass rush specialist for them. He certainly doesn't fit the Giants typical DE physical template.
He's ~250 now  
JonC : 2/23/2015 11:57 am : link
Definitely not their usual DE fit, but I hope Spags has a much better idea of how to utilize such a player than his predecessor. Otherwise, it's more or less another disconnect between Reese's branch and the coaches.
the Ravens play a hybrid scheme mixing 4-3 & 3-4 elements  
Torrag : 2/23/2015 12:05 pm : link
Spags experience there could infuse that philosophy here. Baltimore's defense has had more success in recent years than we've enjoyed. The point is a guy like Schofield fits that style and JR was dipping into that market even before Spags returned.

The collegiate game simply isn't churning out enough top 4-3 DE prospects to fill the need. If the Schofield interest is a pre-cursor to a shifting defensive paradigm we could get a surprise defensive #9 selection.
having said that Torrag  
idiotsavant : 2/23/2015 1:33 pm : link
you cannot run that hybrid without The Beef, which may be harder to find than The End, so...9 may lend itself to beefyness.

I still go back to that adding a NT type and a big 3/4 end (one that can sub inside as well as out), which together make the variety of lines you can field much greater such as:

a 3 look with a zero player (not suggested if small ended)

a 5 'look' with a zero player

the 4 skinny on long D+D - but not -that- skinny (the edwards/anderson types plus hank inside)
RE: Torrag  
JonC : 2/23/2015 1:37 pm : link
Yeah, I posted in another thread today the same sentiment regarding the edge rusher options at #9 possibly being tempting for them to push the envelope.

It's a shite year to have a top 10 pick, unfortunately.
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