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NFT: Moncada to the Red Sox

Strahan91 : 2/23/2015 9:12 am
This one stings.

@JesseSanchezMLB: BREAKING - Source: Cuban INF prospect Yoan Moncada agrees with Red Sox on a deal in $30 million range.
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fuck you, Hal  
Greg from LI : 2/23/2015 9:18 am : link
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That fucking cheapskate Hal  
superspynyg : 2/23/2015 9:19 am : link
He is a penny pinching mother fucker! He is not like his father!
Unbelievable  
dune69 : 2/23/2015 9:20 am : link
F*&K!!
they were never serious about trying to sign him  
Greg from LI : 2/23/2015 9:21 am : link
What a fucking joke. I've tried to be positive over the past two years, but my opinion of this organization is hitting rock bottom.
Pretty much seals the deal. Baseball is dead to me  
BlueHurricane : 2/23/2015 9:23 am : link
I have begun to pay less and less attention to the Yanks due to having to watch broke down and overpriced players. I miss the Boss. The entire sport has become much less appealing to me these days. How many days until the Giants report to camp???
30 million?  
RetroJint : 2/23/2015 9:24 am : link
Sherman or somebody else in the Post was talking about 60 million . Never allow the accounting side of ownership to run a company.
RE: 30 million?  
superspynyg : 2/23/2015 9:26 am : link
In comment 12148771 RetroJint said:
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Sherman or somebody else in the Post was talking about 60 million . Never allow the accounting side of ownership to run a company.


100% tax. Will cost them total of 60 mil
Bigtime  
Metnut : 2/23/2015 9:26 am : link
offseason for Boston. Their MLB roster got better and they are still loaded with young talent. Signing Moncada just adds to that. I still think Blue Jays will be best 2015 AL East team, but Boston will have a shot at the division and is set up to be really good for the next 5 years or so.

It's a shame the Mets didn't even seriously consider making a bid for this guy, but I think Mets fans are used to cheap ownership at this point.
I thought I read that it was going  
PhiPsi125 : 2/23/2015 9:26 am : link
to cost in the 80 to 100 million range. Am I thinking of someone else?
RE: 30 million?  
Gmen4Life21 : 2/23/2015 9:27 am : link
In comment 12148771 RetroJint said:
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Sherman or somebody else in the Post was talking about 60 million . Never allow the accounting side of ownership to run a company.


Plus $30m in tax=$60m
Move on. Nothing to see here  
Rflairr : 2/23/2015 9:27 am : link
-Alderson
People are actually surprised by this?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/23/2015 9:27 am : link
Heck, I expect them to find some 37 year-old Cuban and give him 30 million.
Blame Hank-enstein. He is the asshole who gave A-roid  
Victor in CT : 2/23/2015 9:28 am : link
a new 10 year deal when he had no other suitors. They are stuck until they get rid of that contract. And CC, Texiera as well. And McCann and Ellsbury. And Beltran.

In other words they suck. They are old, decrepit and over priced.
the Blue Jays are the baseball Redskins minus the idiot owner  
Greg from LI : 2/23/2015 9:28 am : link
Offseason champs, every year.
The media has been saying that it would take $30M to $40M  
Beer Man : 2/23/2015 9:31 am : link
to sign Moncada. With the Yanks in a 100% tax situation it would have cost them $60M to $80M. Thats a lot of money to shell out on a prospect. That's not penny pinching, thats using a little financial sanity.
Hard to argue the Blue Jays  
pjcas18 : 2/23/2015 9:34 am : link
as offseason champs over the Red Sox this year.

RE: The media has been saying that it would take $30M to $40M  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/23/2015 9:34 am : link
In comment 12148788 Beer Man said:
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to sign Moncada. With the Yanks in a 100% tax situation it would have cost them $60M to $80M. Thats a lot of money to shell out on a prospect. That's not penny pinching, thats using a little financial sanity.


The same people who decided it was a good idea to give a 37 year-old 45 million don't get pats on the back for "financial sanity".
This team is going to blow for years to come  
Ronz0 : 2/23/2015 9:36 am : link
I hope no one shows up in the stands this year. I know I won't pay to see the crap they put on the field. This kid was a no brainer. Man I miss George
I have no idea if signing him is good or bad  
Bake54 : 2/23/2015 9:37 am : link
The kid is turning 20 this year. Lots of time left before he is in the big leagues. That is insane money for a young player. I guess we will see pretty shortly.
Would have been fun to  
B in ALB : 2/23/2015 9:37 am : link
watch this kid in pinstripes.

But instead we get to see fat, overpaid, old, and crooked has beens.

Another year where the Yankees will not get a dime from me.
RE: Pretty much seals the deal. Baseball is dead to me  
viggie : 2/23/2015 9:38 am : link
In comment 12148770 BlueHurricane said:
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I have begun to pay less and less attention to the Yanks due to having to watch broke down and overpriced players. I miss the Boss. The entire sport has become much less appealing to me these days. How many days until the Giants report to camp???


I feel the same way, you can't proclaim not signing free agents to get younger then have one of the premier young players at your disposal for just cash while owning the most lucrative team and network in baseball. Them claim fiscal sanity about why you dont him and let him go to the hated rival. I won't give a dollar to them this season or for the future. FU Hal.
The worst thing about this is that it inspires another round of  
Greg from LI : 2/23/2015 9:38 am : link
George Steinbrenner amnesia, when those too young or too stupid to remember what he actually was as an owner pretend that nothing bad ever happened when he owned the team.
Yankees cant sign  
CromartiesKid21 : 2/23/2015 9:39 am : link
international FAs for 2 years, Moncada was supposed to be the big get to offset this and make it all worthwhile.
I am stunned and utterly dissapointed in the direction of this team. This whole offseason was a big fat F without getting Moncada. Im sure we were all dying for the re-signing of Stephen Drew and Chase Headley smh.
Cant believe we will have to go through the struggle to win 84 games a year for the next 3 or more years while the powerhouse red sox with their loaded boat of prospects and excellent offseason makes the Yankees their bitch.
so glad they gave Jacoby fucking Ellsbury $150 million  
Greg from LI : 2/23/2015 9:39 am : link
An aging slap hitter is totally worth that contract!
we know george made a ton of mistakes  
viggie : 2/23/2015 9:39 am : link
ed whitson, Hideki Irabu, ect. But at least he spent and tried.
Tough to get a handle on reasonable expectations for the Yankees  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/23/2015 9:40 am : link
this season. Just not sure what they can be this year.
might want to pump the brakes on "powerhouse Red Sox"  
Greg from LI : 2/23/2015 9:40 am : link
They were dogshit last year, and so far their much ballyhooed farm system hasn't produced much in the way of productive major leaguers. They're in a better place than the Yankees but let's not go overboard.
RE: The worst thing about this is that it inspires another round of  
rut17 : 2/23/2015 9:41 am : link
In comment 12148805 Greg from LI said:
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George Steinbrenner amnesia, when those too young or too stupid to remember what he actually was as an owner pretend that nothing bad ever happened when he owned the team.


This X1000
RE: might want to pump the brakes on  
CromartiesKid21 : 2/23/2015 9:43 am : link
In comment 12148814 Greg from LI said:
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They were dogshit last year, and so far their much ballyhooed farm system hasn't produced much in the way of productive major leaguers. They're in a better place than the Yankees but let's not go overboard.


whatever, I didnt think baseball in February would get my blood pressure up...but losing Moncada to the Red Sox not the Dodgers of all teams has gotten me heated, he to me was the centerpiece of this entire offseason.
WHHHAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????  
old man : 2/23/2015 9:43 am : link
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The Boston Pirates strike again...  
Dunedin81 : 2/23/2015 9:44 am : link
tell us again John Henry about how hard it is competing with the Evil Empire.
Very disappointed  
bxgiants4 : 2/23/2015 9:45 am : link
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There is still one more int'l jewel I think  
Bill L : 2/23/2015 9:45 am : link
a pitcher (Alvarez, I think but since it's off the top of my head I could have the name wrong). That could be a nice get for NY before their international signings shut down.
Hal is a disgrace to the  
superspynyg : 2/23/2015 9:46 am : link
Steinbrenner legacy. And his flunky Cashman is no better.
i for one am fine with the Yankees  
nyynyg : 2/23/2015 9:47 am : link
signing no one even if it means not winning. We need to bottom out and unload these bad contracts. I've lost interest in the team because of our continued practice of just signing players, and not great signings at that.
RE: Hal is a disgrace to the  
Greg from LI : 2/23/2015 9:48 am : link
In comment 12148834 superspynyg said:
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Steinbrenner legacy. And his flunky Cashman is no better.


How the hell is this Cashman's fault? He raved about Moncada, and he's not the guy who controls the dollars.
RE: Hal is a disgrace to the  
rut17 : 2/23/2015 9:48 am : link
In comment 12148834 superspynyg said:
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Steinbrenner legacy. And his flunky Cashman is no better.


How is this Cashman's fault??
RE: might want to pump the brakes on  
Bill L : 2/23/2015 9:49 am : link
In comment 12148814 Greg from LI said:
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They were dogshit last year, and so far their much ballyhooed farm system hasn't produced much in the way of productive major leaguers. They're in a better place than the Yankees but let's not go overboard.


I am optimistic and believe Bogaerts is much better than his total numbers showed last year. The lows were very low but his highs for a rookie were very good. A core of Bogaerts, Betts, Swihart, Castillo,and Moncada should be decent. Pitching...who knows.
I'm sure that scumbag  
B in ALB : 2/23/2015 9:51 am : link
Randy Levine had his greasy fingers all over this decision.
RE: Blame Hank-enstein. He is the asshole who gave A-roid  
HomerJones45 : 2/23/2015 9:52 am : link
In comment 12148784 Victor in CT said:
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a new 10 year deal when he had no other suitors. They are stuck until they get rid of that contract. And CC, Texiera as well. And McCann and Ellsbury. And Beltran.

In other words they suck. They are old, decrepit and over priced.
Coming off a 54 home run 156 rbi season. Yeah, he had no suitors, I am sure.

There is no salary cap in baseball. If they wanted the guy, they could have signed him, no matter what contracts they had out there. After all, Jeter came off the books this season. Apparently, the baseball side did not think Moncada was worth it after conducting several workouts with him.
RE: might want to pump the brakes on  
pjcas18 : 2/23/2015 9:55 am : link
In comment 12148814 Greg from LI said:
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They were dogshit last year, and so far their much ballyhooed farm system hasn't produced much in the way of productive major leaguers. They're in a better place than the Yankees but let's not go overboard.


All I said is they had a better off-season than the Bluejays.

the Sox added Hanley, Sandoval, Justin Masterson, Moncada, Porcello, Ogando, Wade Miley - all guys who will play or start for them in 2015 except Moncada who is now a top 5 prospect in baseball,

that is better than Toronto's off-season.
RE: i for one am fine with the Yankees  
superspynyg : 2/23/2015 9:56 am : link
In comment 12148836 nyynyg said:
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signing no one even if it means not winning. We need to bottom out and unload these bad contracts. I've lost interest in the team because of our continued practice of just signing players, and not great signings at that.


So you are ok with losing for another 3-4 years? Anyway, you sign prospects now let them develop and in a year or 2 you are ready to win.
RE: The worst thing about this is that it inspires another round of  
Victor in CT : 2/23/2015 9:57 am : link
In comment 12148805 Greg from LI said:
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George Steinbrenner amnesia, when those too young or too stupid to remember what he actually was as an owner pretend that nothing bad ever happened when he owned the team.


Agree completely. The "Yankee fan since 1996" crowd has no idea what an embarrassment he was. Just watch Seinfeld. Larry David was a riot ranting and raving like him.
RE: RE: Blame Hank-enstein. He is the asshole who gave A-roid  
Victor in CT : 2/23/2015 9:58 am : link
In comment 12148848 HomerJones45 said:
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In comment 12148784 Victor in CT said:


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a new 10 year deal when he had no other suitors. They are stuck until they get rid of that contract. And CC, Texiera as well. And McCann and Ellsbury. And Beltran.

In other words they suck. They are old, decrepit and over priced.

Coming off a 54 home run 156 rbi season. Yeah, he had no suitors, I am sure.

There is no salary cap in baseball. If they wanted the guy, they could have signed him, no matter what contracts they had out there. After all, Jeter came off the books this season. Apparently, the baseball side did not think Moncada was worth it after conducting several workouts with him.


That's right Homer. He opted out (during the WS and pissed off all of baseball). He was not going to get a 10 yr deal from anybody.
I'd be curious to hear the story  
mfsd : 2/23/2015 10:01 am : link
if he decided he'd rather play in Boston, fine, good for him

If it came down to the Red Sox outbidding us, the Yanks should be ashamed. All the money we've wasted over the years, and now we get gunshy?

Yup Kei Igawa'd
so does this mean  
Bake54 : 2/23/2015 10:05 am : link
that the Red Sox can trade for Cole Hamels now? Would they be willing to part with Mookie Betts?
pj  
Greg from LI : 2/23/2015 10:06 am : link
Are you actually touting signing Miley and Masterson? Miley was mediocre at best last year, and Masterson was ungodly awful. Hanley has become injury prone and has no defensive position, and it's not going to be long before Sandoval's contract becomes an anchor around their necks. Aside from signing Moncada, I don't think their offseason was particularly good at all.
Anyone who thinks AROD  
LauderdaleMatty : 2/23/2015 10:11 am : link
was getting anything close to what he got is a moron. Worst deal ever now. Even people in favor of it knew The last 5 years would suck. Problem was he didn't even make through 3
You had to figure it would come down to us or the Sox.  
yatqb : 2/23/2015 10:12 am : link
Life goes on.
RE: RE: Hal is a disgrace to the  
superspynyg : 2/23/2015 10:15 am : link
In comment 12148838 rut17 said:
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In comment 12148834 superspynyg said:


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Steinbrenner legacy. And his flunky Cashman is no better.

I blame everyone. I forgot to put Levine in ther. I have NEVER like Cashman.


How is this Cashman's fault??
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