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Adam Schefter says Dez tape exists

Big Rick in FL : 2/25/2015 1:53 pm
Says he knows what's on it also, but not sure when or if it will be released. At first I didn't believe there was actually a video. Schefter has a ton of sources though. It has to be real. I wonder what is on it and if it is truly 5x worse then the Ray Rice tape.

Sorry busy at work. No link as I read it on Twitter.
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"Made me who I am today??"  
bceagle05 : 2/25/2015 4:04 pm : link
What, a loathsome, disgusting piece of garbage?
Selling your video to TMZ or others isn't blackmail  
Torrag : 2/25/2015 4:05 pm : link
It's scummy if Dez was your friend but not illegal. Threatening Dez if he won't pay you to delete said video is another thing altogether.
RE: Selling your video to TMZ or others isn't blackmail  
giants#1 : 2/25/2015 4:10 pm : link
In comment 12152896 Torrag said:
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It's scummy if Dez was your friend but not illegal. Threatening Dez if he won't pay you to delete said video is another thing altogether.


Not sure if this was directed to me, but I was referring to the possibility of them blackmailing Dez or the NFL or the Cowboys.
I still am trying to figure out how it could be 5x worse  
Headhunter : 2/25/2015 4:13 pm : link
then Ray Rice knocking his then girlfriend out.
Why incur the risk of attempting to blackmail anyone...  
Torrag : 2/25/2015 4:20 pm : link
when TMZ et al would be lining up with your Golden Ticket to buy it. Of course they could just be morons.
RE: Deadspin says it will pay for video  
Chris in Philly : 2/25/2015 4:21 pm : link
In comment 12152855 AJ23 said:
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The video is reportedly for sale to the highest bidder, or, alternately, being used to extort Bryant. To that we would add: to anyone in possession of the video, email us at Deadspin, and perhaps we will pay you money for the video.

We have been approached by multiple tipsters claiming to know what the video shows, and there are at least three conflicting versions. Notably, of all the people who have offered descriptions of what's on the tape, not one claims to have actually seen it. There's more than a hint of urban legend here.



A bunch of articles have been posted saying Schefter "confirms" video's existence, even though he said he's never seen the video. Even though Schefter is to be commended for sitting on this rumor for 5 months or whatever, if that's really true, he probably should be more clear when talking about an "it," considering the "it" could very well be a rumor and not a physical video.



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Carmen and Jurko: Have you heard about this video? Do you know whats on it?

Schefter: Yeah.

Carmen and Jurko: Have you seen it?

Schefter: I have not seen it.

Deadspin link - ( New Window )


Why should he be commended for "sitting on" this rumor? It's his job to confirm the rumor and report it.
RE: I still am trying to figure out how it could be 5x worse  
GMAN4LIFE : 2/25/2015 4:28 pm : link
In comment 12152913 Headhunter said:
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then Ray Rice knocking his then girlfriend out.


from what i read, its him choking a girl unconscious. that would be worse than what ray rice did
RE: Why incur the risk of attempting to blackmail anyone...  
giants#1 : 2/25/2015 4:32 pm : link
In comment 12152925 Torrag said:
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when TMZ et al would be lining up with your Golden Ticket to buy it. Of course they could just be morons.


More $$$ and like you said, I doubt these guys (if they exist) are mensa candidates.
Seems silly for Schefter to say he knows what's on the tape  
Mad Mike : 2/25/2015 4:33 pm : link
when he acknowledges he hasn't seen it. Him being told by someone about a tape and what's on it is quite a bit different from him knowing what's on it.
Semantics?  
Milton : 2/25/2015 4:34 pm : link
It sounds like it's a case of people being shown a screenshot pulled from the video, but not the actual video. So it's fair for them to say that they have confirmation that a video exist without having seen it.
dropping a deuce on her  
Headhunter : 2/25/2015 4:37 pm : link
while unconscious makes it 3x worse but not 5x
RE: Semantics?  
Mad Mike : 2/25/2015 4:38 pm : link
In comment 12152948 Milton said:
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It sounds like it's a case of people being shown a screenshot pulled from the video, but not the actual video. So it's fair for them to say that they have confirmation that a video exist without having seen it.

If I'd seen a screenshot from a video, and was asked if I'd seen the video, I'd probably say that I'd only seen a screenshot. Schefter is hyping this up as a pretty big deal, I assume if he'd seen even an image from the video he'd say so.
RE: dropping a deuce on her  
giants#1 : 2/25/2015 4:40 pm : link
In comment 12152953 Headhunter said:
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while unconscious makes it 3x worse but not 5x


Depends how she became unconscious. Did he find her that way, KO'd her after she slapped him, or just KO'd her for the hell of it?

I read on Twitter  
Big Rick in FL : 2/25/2015 4:43 pm : link
That there are rumors swirling that he choked a lady unconscious on the hood of a car in a Wal-Mart parking lot.
If that is the case and it surfaces  
Headhunter : 2/25/2015 4:47 pm : link
bye-bye Dez. Goddell will have to give him the death sentence. Women's groups wouldn't give him a moments peace if he doesn't
Yeah Dez might be toast if those rumors are true.  
bceagle05 : 2/25/2015 4:59 pm : link
I won't miss him for a second. What a tool.
RE: I read on Twitter  
SHO'NUFF : 2/25/2015 5:01 pm : link
In comment 12152971 Big Rick in FL said:
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That there are rumors swirling that he choked a lady unconscious on the hood of a car in a Wal-Mart parking lot.


maybe he was giving her the "50 Shades of Grey" treatment?
I hope this isn't so pre college days stuff  
Mason : 2/25/2015 5:32 pm : link
I'm not about to go nuts over a fight among teenagers. Sorry if it offends some. And I wonder if that is the real holdup publishing video that contain minors.
RE: I hope this isn't so pre college days stuff  
Milton : 2/25/2015 5:45 pm : link
In comment 12153058 Mason said:
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I'm not about to go nuts over a fight among teenagers. Sorry if it offends some. And I wonder if that is the real holdup publishing video that contain minors.
Supposedly it's from 2011.
extortion is illegal, Dallas will just just draft WR #1 since this  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 2/25/2015 5:58 pm : link
news is coming out prior to draft. I don't see how this helps the giants if Dallas gets a stud young receiver with #1 pick
RE: extortion is illegal, Dallas will just just draft WR #1 since this  
Jay on the Island : 2/25/2015 6:18 pm : link
In comment 12153078 Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 said:
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news is coming out prior to draft. I don't see how this helps the giants if Dallas gets a stud young receiver with #1 pick


You don't see how this helps the Giants? They could lose a proven stud top 5 NFL receiver and would have to use their late first round pick on a WR rather than using it to help their defense. Also is it a lock they will get a stud WR at the end of the 1st round?
RE: extortion is illegal, Dallas will just just draft WR #1 since this  
Amtoft : 2/25/2015 6:29 pm : link
In comment 12153078 Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 said:
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news is coming out prior to draft. I don't see how this helps the giants if Dallas gets a stud young receiver with #1 pick


Ummm wouldn't that mean they would lose another player of value from having to draft a "stud" player at WR instead of help elsewhere like DT. Plus you really think any WR available to Dallas at their draft pick will be anything close to Dez Bryant at this point in his career? NO way
Question, Did the woman involved go to the police and file  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 2/25/2015 6:39 pm : link
a report? Methinks that would have been done..especially if 5x worse than Rice.

This all sounds fishy to me. Everyone wants to make a buck or be the one to break the story rather than worry about the victim
Goodell  
blue42 : 2/25/2015 6:44 pm : link
will be all over this....he can't drop the ball again,he'll get fired. If that tape exist the nFL will find it.
one of the reddit  
BigBlueCane : 2/25/2015 6:44 pm : link
posts suggests a firearm was involved.
Didn't Dez beat up his mother before and get arrested for it?  
Essex : 2/25/2015 6:56 pm : link
. . .
amtoft, Dez is not under contract  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 2/25/2015 6:57 pm : link
Dallas would not be losing anything
Now their saying,  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 2/25/2015 7:15 pm : link
the video might be on a Walmart surveillance camera.
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If it was in a Dallas Walmart  
UConn4523 : 2/25/2015 7:18 pm : link
parking lot, that pretty much cancels out the college rumors, no?
RE: Now their saying,  
Chris in Philly : 2/25/2015 7:19 pm : link
In comment 12153148 Tittle 9 20 64 said:
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the video might be on a Walmart surveillance camera. Link - ( New Window )


Don't worry, Schefter and Bernstein are on the case. They'll get to the bottom of this by 2016. 2017 at the latest.
If true, What compounds this and makes it worse is  
montanagiant : 2/25/2015 7:21 pm : link
Dez's tweet about not being ashamed of past actions, and Dallas stating they have zero knowledge of any tape
I'm sorry  
Joey in VA : 2/25/2015 7:23 pm : link
All I can think of is this


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Surprised Glazer isn't all over this.  
bceagle05 : 2/25/2015 7:29 pm : link
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Asshattery, I know, and I'm not one to usually engage in it  
regulator : 2/25/2015 8:01 pm : link
but the secondhand word I got from someone who has allegedly seen the video says "much ado about nothing." A major TV outlet has the video, so not TMZ or Deadspin. We shall see...
This Video if real would be bigger than the new Star Wars movie  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 2/25/2015 8:45 pm : link
unbelievable if this is true.
RE: Didn't Dez beat up his mother before and get arrested for it?  
Mason : 2/25/2015 9:50 pm : link
In comment 12153134 Essex said:
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He slapped her with his cap.
RE: Goodell  
Great White Ghost : 2/26/2015 12:15 am : link
In comment 12153124 blue42 said:
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will be all over this....he can't drop the ball again,he'll get fired. If that tape exist the nFL will find it.
NFL can't claim ownership, or anything really, that belongs to someone else. If I'm Bryants (former) friend, and I took a video on my phone, I don't have to turn over the video to anyone, except maybe the police, if there is an active investigation going on.If the woman was already bought off, or settled out of court, then there may well be no investigation. Otherwise, it's my property, I can sit on it, sell it, burn it, it's mine. NFL has no legal authority over private individuals. It's the NFL, not the FBI.And if, in the end, Dez Btyant is the highest bidder, this video may well never come to light.

As long as that video is exclusive to Bryants former crony, it has value. Soon as it's released,or seized, it's worthless. the guy wants to cash out, whether he burns Bryant or not, I don't think he cares.I'm sure he'd be quite fine selling the only copy to Bryant for the right price, and then moving to a beach somewhere.
ok, did some reading, apparently  
Great White Ghost : 2/26/2015 12:42 am : link
He was blackmailed by former crony, Bryants former agency, Paid hush money, took ownership of video, Bryant switched to ROC nation , and now his former agency is threatening to release the video to the highest bidder.

Several things in play here. First and foremost is the fact that his former agency is not naive to the law, and is not going to expose themselves to prosecution for blackmail, so they no doubt have a plan to release the video that protects them legally from extortion charges.At the very least they are trying to find a way to do that, at least to the extent that if it ever goes to trial there can be reasonable doubt as to whether the video as released intentionally.

I think it's safe to assume if hush money was paid to conceal the video, that the victim was likewise paid, and would expose herself to charges should she now go public. I have no doubt that an experienced agency with legal staff made sure she signed whatever releases from indemnity and prosecution they needed to keep her quiet. they didn't just pay someone and roll the dice she would be quiet. same thing with Dez cronies who sold the tape. So you won't ever hear from the victim, or the guy who made the video. They have already been paid.They open their mouths they can be sued, and they'd lose in court, whatever else happens, and they know it.

It was probably handled by the agency in the first place and not by bryant personally because bryant himself is no lawyer, and didn't know how to construct such deals without ensuring the aforementioned parties would never go public.

In the aftermath of this, Bryant, who probably paid out the ass to the victim, and his cronies, then his agency, gets pissed his agency is making out like bandits for services provided, then goes to Jay Z's agency , who can't do shit, except pay more money than Bryant's original agency was charging in the first place, as I'm sure their "rate" has gone up since he left their representation. Some stills are released to prove to bryant and his party that former agency is serious about releasing the video if they arent paid.

Noone in the media can say shit, because if the tape isn't released, or Bryant turns out to be the highest bidder, whoever says anything is exposed to a slander or libel suit.

This is how, and why, something like this can stay quiet, and how someone like shefter can say "It may never be released."Shefter himself said he expects Bryant to be in Dallas next year. That means he thinks, in the end, Bryant is going to pay, He has no choice, really.

When other sources say his current agency is "Brainwashing him" what they really mean is they are telling him they aren't going to pay, and he shouldn't either.Which, in the end, may amount to career suicide. which this new agency may prefer to see, rather than being tied to a guy that, regardless of the profits he brings, isn't worth marrying and then getting dragged down with when it all goes tits up.
Seems video was not made by bryants freinds  
Great White Ghost : 2/26/2015 1:16 am : link
but rather was a walmart surveilance video that his former agency bought, they being the "Cronies" who are blackmailing him.
Imagine if Jerry Jones was behind the release to drive down  
chris r : 2/26/2015 1:25 am : link
Dez's price. Plot twist!
RE: Imagine if Jerry Jones was behind the release to drive down  
Big Blue '56 : 2/26/2015 4:48 am : link
In comment 12153419 chris r said:
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Dez's price. Plot twist!


Sometimes, in jest there is truth..:)
I'll believe this video exists  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 2/26/2015 6:29 am : link
When, uh, actually someone of note claims to have seen it.
Doesn't make sense  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 2/26/2015 7:38 am : link
a company as big as Walmart would sell the video, and get involved in this mess.
RE: Doesn't make sense  
Jesse B : 2/26/2015 7:46 am : link
In comment 12153454 Tittle 9 20 64 said:
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a company as big as Walmart would sell the video, and get involved in this mess.


Sure not the company but the guy making 9 dollars an hour at Walmart who is in charge of the videos would.
Jesse,  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 2/26/2015 8:01 am : link
True.
News?  
sphinx : 2/26/2015 8:27 am : link
‏@RapSheet 18m18 minutes ago
#Cowboys have known about this Dez Bryant incident for some time. They have taken particular interest in it.


Link - ( New Window )
Ian Rapoport ...  
sphinx : 2/26/2015 8:31 am : link
I have learned via another open-records request that in mid-2011 there was an additional incident involving Bryant. A report filed by the Lancaster (Texas) Police Department described the response by an officer to "an unknown disturbance" in a Walmart parking lot during the early morning of July 11. Vehicles registered to Bryant were at the scene in the parking lot, and Bryant later arrived in another car, when he was spoken to by a Lancaster PD officer. Upon further investigation, "it was determined that there was no offense" and "all parties were advised they were free to go."

Dez Bryant has been in the NFL for almost 5 years now.  
eclipz928 : 2/26/2015 8:36 am : link
Hard to imagine something significant involving him would have been buried for this long.
RE: ok, did some reading, apparently  
RB^2 : 2/26/2015 8:53 am : link
In comment 12153409 Great White Ghost said:
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He was blackmailed by former crony, Bryants former agency, Paid hush money, took ownership of video, Bryant switched to ROC nation , and now his former agency is threatening to release the video to the highest bidder.

Several things in play here. First and foremost is the fact that his former agency is not naive to the law, and is not going to expose themselves to prosecution for blackmail, so they no doubt have a plan to release the video that protects them legally from extortion charges.At the very least they are trying to find a way to do that, at least to the extent that if it ever goes to trial there can be reasonable doubt as to whether the video as released intentionally.

I think it's safe to assume if hush money was paid to conceal the video, that the victim was likewise paid, and would expose herself to charges should she now go public. I have no doubt that an experienced agency with legal staff made sure she signed whatever releases from indemnity and prosecution they needed to keep her quiet. they didn't just pay someone and roll the dice she would be quiet. same thing with Dez cronies who sold the tape. So you won't ever hear from the victim, or the guy who made the video. They have already been paid.They open their mouths they can be sued, and they'd lose in court, whatever else happens, and they know it.

It was probably handled by the agency in the first place and not by bryant personally because bryant himself is no lawyer, and didn't know how to construct such deals without ensuring the aforementioned parties would never go public.

In the aftermath of this, Bryant, who probably paid out the ass to the victim, and his cronies, then his agency, gets pissed his agency is making out like bandits for services provided, then goes to Jay Z's agency , who can't do shit, except pay more money than Bryant's original agency was charging in the first place, as I'm sure their "rate" has gone up since he left their representation. Some stills are released to prove to bryant and his party that former agency is serious about releasing the video if they arent paid.

Noone in the media can say shit, because if the tape isn't released, or Bryant turns out to be the highest bidder, whoever says anything is exposed to a slander or libel suit.

This is how, and why, something like this can stay quiet, and how someone like shefter can say "It may never be released."Shefter himself said he expects Bryant to be in Dallas next year. That means he thinks, in the end, Bryant is going to pay, He has no choice, really.

When other sources say his current agency is "Brainwashing him" what they really mean is they are telling him they aren't going to pay, and he shouldn't either.Which, in the end, may amount to career suicide. which this new agency may prefer to see, rather than being tied to a guy that, regardless of the profits he brings, isn't worth marrying and then getting dragged down with when it all goes tits up.

This might be the dumbest thing I've ever read on BBI - and we're only a week or so removed from the Spock/Enoch thread. Congratulations on the "honor".
Eat me  
Great White Ghost : 2/26/2015 1:16 pm : link
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