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Adam Schefter says Dez tape exists

Big Rick in FL : 2/25/2015 1:53 pm
Says he knows what's on it also, but not sure when or if it will be released. At first I didn't believe there was actually a video. Schefter has a ton of sources though. It has to be real. I wonder what is on it and if it is truly 5x worse then the Ray Rice tape.

Sorry busy at work. No link as I read it on Twitter.
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RE: RE: Schefter says he has...  
Chris in Philly : 2/25/2015 3:27 pm : link
In comment 12152817 truebluelarry said:
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In comment 12152789 Chris in Philly said:


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been working on this since September. Wow, ace reporting there. 5 months and nothing.



That's the difference between a credible reporter and a website blogger. He's filtering his information, cross-referencing and double checking his facts and making sure his story is correct as possible before presenting it.

It's probably killed him that he has had to sit on it so long, but he's doing it the right way.


5 months? For a tmz level video? In this climate of the NFL and domestic violence? I am all for checking sources, but 5 months? If Schefter was writing for the washington post in the 70's, Nixon would have finished his term!
RE: If screen shot stills are out....  
giants#1 : 2/25/2015 3:27 pm : link
In comment 12152818 Torrag said:
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the real thing can't be far behind. Anyone think Jerry Jones and NFL Security are above paying the woman off and trying to sweep this under the rug? I don't.


It's not the woman, it's Dez's old friends (supposedly).

And getting proof of the NFL/Cowboys trying to blackmail them, would be worth far more than a tape of Dez knocking someone out. Granted these guys probably aren't smart enough to pull that off (though the NFL might be dumb enough to attempt it)
If people knew about this since September  
Matt M. : 2/25/2015 3:28 pm : link
how are they not criminally liable for not reporting it to the authorities?
If you think a woman got punched out in Walmart by Dez Bryant...  
Torrag : 2/25/2015 3:30 pm : link
...without the Police, Dallas Cowboys or NFL Security involved you're quite naive and missed the point to boot. Someone knew and hushed it up. This video after the fact is one of Dez cronies trying to cash in. But nothing like this happens in a vacuum. There will be two stories ultimately....Dez striking her...and who helped him cover it up.
What happens if the Cowboys tag him and he gets suspended?  
bigbluescot : 2/25/2015 3:30 pm : link
are they still on the hook for the cap hit?

I know suspended players don't get paid and don't count against the 53 but does their salary count towards the cap even though not received?
it's possible Schefter  
giants#1 : 2/25/2015 3:31 pm : link
couldn't get his hands on the video and has been working to corroborate the story via other channels such as trying to track down the woman. But I'm not sure why these guys would sit on the video for so long. It's not like Dez hasn't been a big name for a while now and I imagine TMZ and the ilk would've paid a hefty premium for it right after the Rice saga.

My guess is Schefter just wants to position himself to "claim" he helped break the story. Even if there isn't a story, doubt anyone remembers by the time camp rolls around.
RE: If you think a woman got punched out in Walmart by Dez Bryant...  
giants#1 : 2/25/2015 3:34 pm : link
In comment 12152828 Torrag said:
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...without the Police, Dallas Cowboys or NFL Security involved you're quite naive and missed the point to boot. Someone knew and hushed it up. This video after the fact is one of Dez cronies trying to cash in. But nothing like this happens in a vacuum. There will be two stories ultimately....Dez striking her...and who helped him cover it up.


Well I hope it's the Cowboys that covered it up and not the NFL. More fines/penalties for good old Jerry!!

It's just as possible Dez's "people" just paid off the woman though.
He's the bottom line for ol' Dez  
Matt in SGS : 2/25/2015 3:35 pm : link
the NFL is a reactionary league and will see how the public (see Sponsors) react. The NFL has an image problem, to say the least. Bottom line, this will be a test for the NFL. It's not a question of if, it's when this tape will be out. The NFL had to do a bunch of damage control around domestic abuse last year, what with the ads of players getting all choked up staring at us.

If there is a video of Dez knocking out a woman, it doesn't matter if it happened years ago, it's the image of the NFL now. He will get punished and I would not at all be shocked to see him get nailed with a year suspension if it's as bad as they say.

Needless to say, I'm sure Dez's people paid this woman off not to press charges. But it looks like after he's "cleaned" his life up to leave his old friends behind, they don't like being left out of the hanger on money and are blackmailing him and will take him down with them. Good luck Dez, your screwed.
BigBlueScot....  
GiantBlue : 2/25/2015 3:37 pm : link
I believe the Vikings paid AP for the whole year even though he was suspended...but not sure if because the Vikes suspended him vs. the NFL or vice-versa.
BigBlueScot....  
GiantBlue : 2/25/2015 3:37 pm : link
I believe the Vikings paid AP for the whole year even though he was suspended...but not sure if because the Vikes suspended him vs. the NFL or vice-versa.
RE: BigBlueScot....  
giants#1 : 2/25/2015 3:41 pm : link
In comment 12152840 GiantBlue said:
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I believe the Vikings paid AP for the whole year even though he was suspended...but not sure if because the Vikes suspended him vs. the NFL or vice-versa.


AP was on the commissioner's exempt list (or something like that). The NFL didn't "officially" suspend him until his trial and at that point I believe he was suspended indefinitely. Though it's misleading because I think the new DV deal with the NFLPA called for a 6 game suspension for a 1st time offender and there were conveniently 6 games remaining when AP got suspended. So claiming it was "indefinite" made them sound tougher (that said AP still needs to be officially reinstated).

So AP was partially paid for last season.
RE: it's possible Schefter  
bigbluescot : 2/25/2015 3:41 pm : link
In comment 12152831 giants#1 said:
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couldn't get his hands on the video and has been working to corroborate the story via other channels such as trying to track down the woman. But I'm not sure why these guys would sit on the video for so long. It's not like Dez hasn't been a big name for a while now and I imagine TMZ and the ilk would've paid a hefty premium for it right after the Rice saga.

My guess is Schefter just wants to position himself to "claim" he helped break the story. Even if there isn't a story, doubt anyone remembers by the time camp rolls around.


The only reason it wouldn't come out if it exists is that it's a shakedown, and those in possession of the tape thought they could use Bryant's contract negotiations/free agency to extort the maximum money from him. I don't know how much the likes of TMZ would pay, but I don't imagine it would so much that a motivated Bryant or Jerry Jones couldn't match. Hell I wouldn't put it past Jones, to do a deal where he makes this go away in return for Bryant signing a favourable deal.

But if they're scummy ex-friends of Bryant, that seems a bit, well intelligent for that crowd to wait for maximum leverage instead of taking whatever money was on the table.
My sources  
mrvax : 2/25/2015 3:45 pm : link
indicated that Dez was piss drunk about 5 years ago and ended up getting tea-bagged. Then the idiots made it worse by filming it.
Deadspin says it will pay for video  
AJ23 : 2/25/2015 3:45 pm : link
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The video is reportedly for sale to the highest bidder, or, alternately, being used to extort Bryant. To that we would add: to anyone in possession of the video, email us at Deadspin, and perhaps we will pay you money for the video.

We have been approached by multiple tipsters claiming to know what the video shows, and there are at least three conflicting versions. Notably, of all the people who have offered descriptions of what's on the tape, not one claims to have actually seen it. There's more than a hint of urban legend here.


A bunch of articles have been posted saying Schefter "confirms" video's existence, even though he said he's never seen the video. Even though Schefter is to be commended for sitting on this rumor for 5 months or whatever, if that's really true, he probably should be more clear when talking about an "it," considering the "it" could very well be a rumor and not a physical video.

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Carmen and Jurko: Have you heard about this video? Do you know what’s on it?

Schefter: Yeah.

Carmen and Jurko: Have you seen it?

Schefter: I have not seen it.

Deadspin link - ( New Window )
RE: He's the bottom line for ol' Dez  
mrvax : 2/25/2015 3:52 pm : link
In comment 12152835 Matt in SGS said:
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Needless to say, I'm sure Dez's people paid this woman off not to press charges. But it looks like after he's "cleaned" his life up to leave his old friends behind, they don't like being left out of the hanger on money and are blackmailing him and will take him down with them. Good luck Dez, your screwed.


Matt, I really hope this isn't true. I don't like the guy but I'd be in his corner if he really turned it around and was being blackmailed by thugs. I'd hope the blackmailers do prison time.
if someone paid off the girl, you dont think some of the money came  
GMAN4LIFE : 2/25/2015 3:55 pm : link
from DEZ?

One thing is for certain..  
bceagle05 : 2/25/2015 3:59 pm : link
whatever happens here, the NFL is gonna fuck it up six ways to Sunday.
Dez' tweeted reply  
Randy in CT : 2/25/2015 4:02 pm : link
sure sounds like something did indeed happen and he's hoping that because it was "old news", people won't hold it against him.

"I'm not ashamed of none of my past incidents because that's what made me who I am today"
Bryant's idiot pals  
RB^2 : 2/25/2015 4:02 pm : link
lost a lot of leverage now that news of the existence of the tape is out there.
"Made me who I am today??"  
bceagle05 : 2/25/2015 4:04 pm : link
What, a loathsome, disgusting piece of garbage?
Selling your video to TMZ or others isn't blackmail  
Torrag : 2/25/2015 4:05 pm : link
It's scummy if Dez was your friend but not illegal. Threatening Dez if he won't pay you to delete said video is another thing altogether.
RE: Selling your video to TMZ or others isn't blackmail  
giants#1 : 2/25/2015 4:10 pm : link
In comment 12152896 Torrag said:
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It's scummy if Dez was your friend but not illegal. Threatening Dez if he won't pay you to delete said video is another thing altogether.


Not sure if this was directed to me, but I was referring to the possibility of them blackmailing Dez or the NFL or the Cowboys.
I still am trying to figure out how it could be 5x worse  
Headhunter : 2/25/2015 4:13 pm : link
then Ray Rice knocking his then girlfriend out.
Why incur the risk of attempting to blackmail anyone...  
Torrag : 2/25/2015 4:20 pm : link
when TMZ et al would be lining up with your Golden Ticket to buy it. Of course they could just be morons.
RE: Deadspin says it will pay for video  
Chris in Philly : 2/25/2015 4:21 pm : link
In comment 12152855 AJ23 said:
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The video is reportedly for sale to the highest bidder, or, alternately, being used to extort Bryant. To that we would add: to anyone in possession of the video, email us at Deadspin, and perhaps we will pay you money for the video.

We have been approached by multiple tipsters claiming to know what the video shows, and there are at least three conflicting versions. Notably, of all the people who have offered descriptions of what's on the tape, not one claims to have actually seen it. There's more than a hint of urban legend here.



A bunch of articles have been posted saying Schefter "confirms" video's existence, even though he said he's never seen the video. Even though Schefter is to be commended for sitting on this rumor for 5 months or whatever, if that's really true, he probably should be more clear when talking about an "it," considering the "it" could very well be a rumor and not a physical video.



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Carmen and Jurko: Have you heard about this video? Do you know what’s on it?

Schefter: Yeah.

Carmen and Jurko: Have you seen it?

Schefter: I have not seen it.

Deadspin link - ( New Window )


Why should he be commended for "sitting on" this rumor? It's his job to confirm the rumor and report it.
RE: I still am trying to figure out how it could be 5x worse  
GMAN4LIFE : 2/25/2015 4:28 pm : link
In comment 12152913 Headhunter said:
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then Ray Rice knocking his then girlfriend out.


from what i read, its him choking a girl unconscious. that would be worse than what ray rice did
RE: Why incur the risk of attempting to blackmail anyone...  
giants#1 : 2/25/2015 4:32 pm : link
In comment 12152925 Torrag said:
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when TMZ et al would be lining up with your Golden Ticket to buy it. Of course they could just be morons.


More $$$ and like you said, I doubt these guys (if they exist) are mensa candidates.
Seems silly for Schefter to say he knows what's on the tape  
Mad Mike : 2/25/2015 4:33 pm : link
when he acknowledges he hasn't seen it. Him being told by someone about a tape and what's on it is quite a bit different from him knowing what's on it.
Semantics?  
Milton : 2/25/2015 4:34 pm : link
It sounds like it's a case of people being shown a screenshot pulled from the video, but not the actual video. So it's fair for them to say that they have confirmation that a video exist without having seen it.
dropping a deuce on her  
Headhunter : 2/25/2015 4:37 pm : link
while unconscious makes it 3x worse but not 5x
RE: Semantics?  
Mad Mike : 2/25/2015 4:38 pm : link
In comment 12152948 Milton said:
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It sounds like it's a case of people being shown a screenshot pulled from the video, but not the actual video. So it's fair for them to say that they have confirmation that a video exist without having seen it.

If I'd seen a screenshot from a video, and was asked if I'd seen the video, I'd probably say that I'd only seen a screenshot. Schefter is hyping this up as a pretty big deal, I assume if he'd seen even an image from the video he'd say so.
RE: dropping a deuce on her  
giants#1 : 2/25/2015 4:40 pm : link
In comment 12152953 Headhunter said:
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while unconscious makes it 3x worse but not 5x


Depends how she became unconscious. Did he find her that way, KO'd her after she slapped him, or just KO'd her for the hell of it?

I read on Twitter  
Big Rick in FL : 2/25/2015 4:43 pm : link
That there are rumors swirling that he choked a lady unconscious on the hood of a car in a Wal-Mart parking lot.
If that is the case and it surfaces  
Headhunter : 2/25/2015 4:47 pm : link
bye-bye Dez. Goddell will have to give him the death sentence. Women's groups wouldn't give him a moments peace if he doesn't
Yeah Dez might be toast if those rumors are true.  
bceagle05 : 2/25/2015 4:59 pm : link
I won't miss him for a second. What a tool.
RE: I read on Twitter  
SHO'NUFF : 2/25/2015 5:01 pm : link
In comment 12152971 Big Rick in FL said:
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That there are rumors swirling that he choked a lady unconscious on the hood of a car in a Wal-Mart parking lot.


maybe he was giving her the "50 Shades of Grey" treatment?
I hope this isn't so pre college days stuff  
Mason : 2/25/2015 5:32 pm : link
I'm not about to go nuts over a fight among teenagers. Sorry if it offends some. And I wonder if that is the real holdup publishing video that contain minors.
RE: I hope this isn't so pre college days stuff  
Milton : 2/25/2015 5:45 pm : link
In comment 12153058 Mason said:
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I'm not about to go nuts over a fight among teenagers. Sorry if it offends some. And I wonder if that is the real holdup publishing video that contain minors.
Supposedly it's from 2011.
extortion is illegal, Dallas will just just draft WR #1 since this  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 2/25/2015 5:58 pm : link
news is coming out prior to draft. I don't see how this helps the giants if Dallas gets a stud young receiver with #1 pick
RE: extortion is illegal, Dallas will just just draft WR #1 since this  
Jay on the Island : 2/25/2015 6:18 pm : link
In comment 12153078 Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 said:
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news is coming out prior to draft. I don't see how this helps the giants if Dallas gets a stud young receiver with #1 pick


You don't see how this helps the Giants? They could lose a proven stud top 5 NFL receiver and would have to use their late first round pick on a WR rather than using it to help their defense. Also is it a lock they will get a stud WR at the end of the 1st round?
RE: extortion is illegal, Dallas will just just draft WR #1 since this  
Amtoft : 2/25/2015 6:29 pm : link
In comment 12153078 Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 said:
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news is coming out prior to draft. I don't see how this helps the giants if Dallas gets a stud young receiver with #1 pick


Ummm wouldn't that mean they would lose another player of value from having to draft a "stud" player at WR instead of help elsewhere like DT. Plus you really think any WR available to Dallas at their draft pick will be anything close to Dez Bryant at this point in his career? NO way
Question, Did the woman involved go to the police and file  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 2/25/2015 6:39 pm : link
a report? Methinks that would have been done..especially if 5x worse than Rice.

This all sounds fishy to me. Everyone wants to make a buck or be the one to break the story rather than worry about the victim
Goodell  
blue42 : 2/25/2015 6:44 pm : link
will be all over this....he can't drop the ball again,he'll get fired. If that tape exist the nFL will find it.
one of the reddit  
BigBlueCane : 2/25/2015 6:44 pm : link
posts suggests a firearm was involved.
Didn't Dez beat up his mother before and get arrested for it?  
Essex : 2/25/2015 6:56 pm : link
. . .
amtoft, Dez is not under contract  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 2/25/2015 6:57 pm : link
Dallas would not be losing anything
Now their saying,  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 2/25/2015 7:15 pm : link
the video might be on a Walmart surveillance camera.
Link - ( New Window )
If it was in a Dallas Walmart  
UConn4523 : 2/25/2015 7:18 pm : link
parking lot, that pretty much cancels out the college rumors, no?
RE: Now their saying,  
Chris in Philly : 2/25/2015 7:19 pm : link
In comment 12153148 Tittle 9 20 64 said:
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the video might be on a Walmart surveillance camera. Link - ( New Window )


Don't worry, Schefter and Bernstein are on the case. They'll get to the bottom of this by 2016. 2017 at the latest.
If true, What compounds this and makes it worse is  
montanagiant : 2/25/2015 7:21 pm : link
Dez's tweet about not being ashamed of past actions, and Dallas stating they have zero knowledge of any tape
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