"The root of the Rondo-Carlisle crisis is a simmering disagreement about whether the Mavs were best off with the genius former Coach of the Year or brilliant four-time All-Star point guard calling the majority of the plays.
Rondo, a nine-year veteran with one of the highest basketball IQs in the league, believes that's a big part of his job as a point guard. Carlisle, one of the NBA's best offensive minds, doesn't want to hand the keys of his sports car over to a guy he just met.
It's similar to the friction between Carlisle and future Hall of Fame point guard Jason Kidd during their first season together, except they never had "SportsCenter"-leading shouting matches. Carlisle ceded control to Kidd in midseason, and that duo played prominent roles in the Mavs' title run a few years later.
Could history repeat itself? Don't hold your breath. The reality is Rondo's run with the Mavs is extremely unlikely to extend past this season. "
I wanted Rondo BADLY in the draft and I'm still a fan but I'm very concerned with his fit in the triangle and even more important.. he's ALWAYS hurt. Find it hard to believe that improves in his age 30-34 seasons. Rajon Rondo has played 68, 53, 38, 30 and 47 games (so far) the past 5 seasons
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I used to check out realgm years ago. What a cluster. The basketball discussion here is light years ahead of anything I ever encountered there...at least on the Knicks forum.
Odds of anyone in this draft sniffing Cousins as a player is extremely low. Go off the deep end seems silly to me, he'll always be fiery etc but ZBO and Rasheed Wallace were sheer lunatics, Rodman the list goes on and on, this guy is a monster.
Not the complete same circumstance, and I do like Wiggins more than Love, but sometimes those trades wind up being ones you regret. That trade is going to look like a complete disaster if Love doesn't win a championship with the Cavs.
Not the complete same circumstance, and I do like Wiggins more than Love, but sometimes those trades wind up being ones you regret. That trade is going to look like a complete disaster if Love doesn't win a championship with the Cavs.
There is close to a zero chance that Towns/Okafor end up far superior players to Cousins. Love is potentially walking after the year so it wouldn't be the same thing. You honestly think in 2-3 years you would regret the trade?
Betting on a guy with his mental makeup is no slam dunk.
Talent wise it's not even worth discussing, but mental makeup has ruined plenty of guys careers. I have a hard time trusting him.
I'd still do it, but there is risk involved.
Betting on a guy with his mental makeup is no slam dunk.
Talent wise it's not even worth discussing, but mental makeup has ruined plenty of guys careers. I have a hard time trusting him.
I'd still do it, but there is risk involved.
Sure there is risk but it's risk well worth taking in my view. I'd be absolutely blown away if Towns or Okafor end up significantly better players than Cousins and I'd be damn surprised if they end up as good. He's close with Melo, Jackson has some experience dealing with guys like this, I'd be very, very happy waking up to news of this trade.
Karl apparently made every single player available and is looking to build the team in his "image". Supposedly will go after Lawson in the off-season as well.
I'd still do it if I'm the Knicks because I don't want to waste any more years of Melo's prime, and Cousins/Melo could be the backbone of a sick nasty offense.
But Cousins has a lot of red flags playing in NYC for a team like the Knicks with no veteran leadership could lead to some trouble.
Still, I'd do it.
BTW, Wiggins is going to be a monster.
Mook,
Let's be fair, the rumor states Karl made everyone available at the deadline. This wasn't a "Cousins thing". It's a Karl thinks he's hot shit and wants a George Karl team. He might view Towns, or Okafor or Russell as more of a "George Karl system" piece. Nowhere was it stated the Kings are looking to dump Cousins.
Especially when Lebron clearly would have no problem being the "playmaker" to Wiggins "Vince Carter" (or whomever you want to use).
Not the complete same circumstance, and I do like Wiggins more than Love, but sometimes those trades wind up being ones you regret. That trade is going to look like a complete disaster if Love doesn't win a championship with the Cavs.
The problem with this is that LBJ had a wink wink deal if he signs with the Cavs they will acquire KLove. No KLove, no LBJ IMO.
This isn't to open up the "LBJ didn't go to Cleveland because it's his hometown" can of worms (which I do truly believe). I just think the Cavs didn't really have a choice.
Hell I'm not sure Love helps them win a title this year any more than Wiggins would have.
Absolutely 100%. Obviously he won't give 2 shits if he wins a title in Cleveland without Wiggins.
I don't think Wiggins will ever be a good ball-handler who gets 5+ APG, but he's going to score 25+ in this league in his prime. Take that to the bank. And he'll be a freak defender on top of it.
LeBron is 30 so I get the win-now mentality. But I always thought Wiggins was exactly the type of wing that would look perfect next to Kyrie and LeBron. Great defender, good enough spot-up shooter, excellent in transition.
Look at it as LeBron's first trade as a GM, because that's what it was.
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Okafor's an even worse athlete.
D'Lo affects every facet of the game. If Okafor isn't scoring on post ups, he's useless.
Affecting every facet of the game is certainly nice, but you want a #1 pick to be elite at something. While a very good player, I wouldn't say he's elite at anything yet. Whether that be shooting, driving, athleticism, defense, etc. Okafor is elite on the block and will score plenty of buckets with his post game at the NBA level. It's something to marvel at. The defense is a huge question mark though.
I really do like D'Lo. I don't find it a knock to say that he's not a #1 pick. I just think he's not there yet.
Steph curry? Tony parker?
You don't have to be a plus athlete to succeed in the nba
But he is not an above the rim player...
Russell is just so smooth that it makes up for elite athleticism
Stephen Curry is the best pure shooter in the game and Klay Thompson is right up there with him. They both had that shooting skill in their back pocket coming out of college.
James Harden is a good example.
Stephen Curry is the best pure shooter in the game and Klay Thompson is right up there with him. They both had that shooting skill in their back pocket coming out of college.
James Harden is a good example.
Can't argue with any of that I just think Russell is so smooth he makes up for the lack of athleticism
I don't know. Curry, Kyrie, D-Wil, Klay all brought something they excelled at from the NCAA level that has been their bread n butter in the pros. I'd rather take the 7 footers right now then D'Lo who could potentially just be a jack of all trades that can really help an already good team.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mudiay ended up surpassing D'Lo by the time workouts and everything else rolls around.