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After thinking about what our pick likely comes down to

gidiefor : Mod : 2/27/2015 5:41 pm
I think there are probably 3-4 players the Giants slot in their first tier

Williams
White
Cooper
and maybe Parker

If any of these guys drop -- they will be picked
If they are not there - and I'd be happy with any of them -
then I think they will have

Scherff
Shelton
Peat in the next tier

If any of these guys drop that's where the debate will begin

So - since it's likely the 2 QBs go somewhere above where the Giants pick and maybe a couple of the pass rushers (Fowler, Ray, Gregory, Beasley) go up there too. I think JonC may be right - that just like Donald - the body type of the pass rushers is not what the Giants value.

So which one do you take - Scherff, Shelton or Peat

Me - Of those 3 I think they'd take Scherff - he seems more in the Giants mold

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RE: Right now I take Scherff  
mrvax : 2/27/2015 8:00 pm : link
In comment 12156308 UberAlias said:
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But will need to see how FA unfolds and am not done reviewing some of these guys.


Scherff? Why? If the Giants want a guard, they won't take him at 9. If they want a left tackle, he won't replace Beatty for at least 1 year. The Giants having a year to prep a LT could easily take a solid prospect a year away. One of Clemmings, Fisher or Flowers will be available in round 2. (I actually highly recommend trying very hard to get a good LT prospect in round 2 this year.)
RE: RE: Right now I take Scherff  
UberAlias : 2/27/2015 8:18 pm : link
In comment 12156319 mrvax said:
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But will need to see how FA unfolds and am not done reviewing some of these guys.



Scherff? Why? If the Giants want a guard, they won't take him at 9. If they want a left tackle, he won't replace Beatty for at least 1 year. The Giants having a year to prep a LT could easily take a solid prospect a year away. One of Clemmings, Fisher or Flowers will be available in round 2. (I actually highly recommend trying very hard to get a good LT prospect in round 2 this year.)


Not about a Guard or a Tackle. It is about addressing one of our biggest limitations in a big way which is lack of push up front. We were 30th in the leage in yards per carry, which is horrendous for a team that values the run (yes, we were top 10 in the league in rushing attempts despite the 3rd worse YPC average in the league). This was a major weakness for us and this kid Scherff is an absolute beast who can help address that need in a big way.
Just IMO  
UberAlias : 2/27/2015 8:22 pm : link
It is less about line position than it is what we are deficient in. Line was not good, but specifically the critical issue is lack of push in the run game.
You take Scherff if you think he's the best value on the board  
gidiefor : Mod : 2/27/2015 8:35 pm : link
- if it's between him Shelton and Peat and their talent value is roughly equal -- I don't think the Giants will place the relative value on a Defensive Tackle in terms of his long range value to the team -- whereas a premium lineman will give the team more value in the long run -

so then it's between Scherff and Peat - and I think Scherff is more the type of Lineman they like than Peat
premium offensive lineman  
gidiefor : Mod : 2/27/2015 8:36 pm : link
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RE: Just IMO  
mrvax : 2/27/2015 9:04 pm : link
In comment 12156344 UberAlias said:
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It is less about line position than it is what we are deficient in. Line was not good, but specifically the critical issue is lack of push in the run game.


Totally agree. I am 100% for spending whatever it takes to get a guard now who is OK with pass blocking but very good at run blocking. We need that guy immediately. I'll bet Jerry does take care of it in the first week of F/A.
I'm suprised  
Adam G in Big D : 2/27/2015 9:22 pm : link
that Trae Waynes, CB, isn't in the discussion at #9 since:

1) CB is a premium position especially in a passing league
2) Prince hasn't played a single season without missing time with an injury and this is his contract year
3) DRC played much of the year with injury
4) Trae Waynes is the best player at his position
I agree that Waynes has to be in the discussion as a top 10 pick.  
yatqb : 2/27/2015 10:36 pm : link
He's a great player.

I don't think that Beasley reaches us, but I think he'd be of interest to us too, although I'm not sure how we'd use him.

To me the chalk are:

Williams
Mariota
Winston
Cooper
White
Waynes
Beasley
Fowler
Scherff

And I think we'll take whichever of them is there at 9. The discussion starts if guys like Ray and Gregory go before them, to teams whose schemes they fit. In that case we might have a choice of a WR, Waynes, or Scherff.

If we landed a young OL in FA, I think we'd go with the WR or CB before Scherff. If not Scherff has to get strong consideration.
I don't see Waynes as a Top 10 guy  
Torrag : 2/27/2015 10:56 pm : link
Neither did anyone else til he popped a 4.35 40 yard dash. His tape and agility testing don't support it. You have to be wary of cornerbacks that are late first rounders who suddenly get bumped up on account of that straight line speed.
I wonder what the coaches think of Eric Herman  
Lurts : 2/27/2015 10:59 pm : link
His reputation out of college was that he was a mauler in the running game but had issues with quickness in pass blocking, IIRC.

Two years later, I wonder what we have.
RE: RE: Right now I take Scherff  
Great White Ghost : 2/28/2015 2:30 am : link
In comment 12156319 mrvax said:
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But will need to see how FA unfolds and am not done reviewing some of these guys.



Scherff? Why? If the Giants want a guard, they won't take him at 9. If they want a left tackle, he won't replace Beatty for at least 1 year. The Giants having a year to prep a LT could easily take a solid prospect a year away. One of Clemmings, Fisher or Flowers will be available in round 2. (I actually highly recommend trying very hard to get a good LT prospect in round 2 this year.)
I'm starting to think like that. Although I myself would like to see a WR or a OL taken in round one, unless Cooper or Scherff fall I don't see it happening, and maybe not even then. It doesn't make a lot of sense to pick either.

They can get both a decent WR and a good lineman in round 2, a WR maybe even into rd 3 for a good one.They went WR last year, I don't see them doing it again.One good FA signing or a 2nd or 3rd rd WR, and honestly the WRs are set.
Same with the OL.

At this point they have a traffic jam of guys competing for the center position, I have no doubt we will have a decent center this year, or that we will sign a decent vet FA Guard, or that Walton, much to everyone's distaste, gets resigned for vet min as depth. Schwartz will be back, and even though I don't know how well he holds up or if he's the answer,I don't see the Giants drafting an OL number one. I think it's almost a certainty they grab the 2nd or 3rd best guard who will still be there in rd 2. I'll go out on a limb and say our rd 2 pick will be the guard from South Carolina, A.J. Cann.Drafting an OL with the #1 pick, then the following year drafting an OL #2, and then the year after #1 again I don't see happening.#1,#2,#2 is more likely.Otherwise it's stupid money tied up in the O-line long term.It makes fan sense, not fiscal sense.After the rookie contracts run out and we need a new LT it's going to get price prohibitive.Right now signing an OL rd 1 seems like a good idea, long term not so much.

For these reasons, lack of real need or over investment in 1 position is why I don't think in the draft room the trigger gets pulled on a WR or an Offensive lineman.

In think the #1 pick will be a defenseman,and as I said, I think we get our DT in rd 2.We Need a DE, and someone like Gregory or Shane Ray, if he is there could be the pick, but after the top DE pick or 2, which aren't expected to be there, what follows is a dropoff, so although need is there, i don't know the talent will be.Reese is generally loathe to draft LBs in rd 1,and although either Beasly or Fowler would be fines picks, as with Ray and Gregory, they aren't expected to be there, and what follows isn't worth the #9 pick, probably especially not to Reese.Landon Collins is attractive, but I think they sign a safety in FA, and he doesn't give enough value at 9.

Either someone drops, like a DE or top LB, or Cooper, or we we may get a suprise pick like CB Trae Waynes who offers too much value to pass up, as the Giants try and get that DB corps to blanket top passing games like they were trying to build last year before they got raped by injury.
RE: I don't see Waynes as a Top 10 guy  
Milton : 2/28/2015 2:41 am : link
In comment 12156496 Torrag said:
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Neither did anyone else til he popped a 4.35 40 yard dash. His tape and agility testing don't support it. You have to be wary of cornerbacks that are late first rounders who suddenly get bumped up on account of that straight line speed.
Not true. In Boylhart's pre-combine mock draft, he had Waynes going to the Giants with the 9th pick. He loves Waynes and thinks he could be the next CB that all the rest are compared to.
They need to stop the run  
Ed A. : 2/28/2015 3:00 am : link
Last season Giants were 30th against the run. DT's are Hankins, Bromley and one more year of Jenkins. Can't see them keeping Patterson or Kuhn. If Shelton is gone, maybe they take Brown. In any event, the DL has to be addressed.
RE: RE: Just IMO  
UberAlias : 2/28/2015 6:41 am : link
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It is less about line position than it is what we are deficient in. Line was not good, but specifically the critical issue is lack of push in the run game.



Totally agree. I am 100% for spending whatever it takes to get a guard now who is OK with pass blocking but very good at run blocking. We need that guy immediately. I'll bet Jerry does take care of it in the first week of F/A.


You are not as high on the player as I am, so be it. You don't have to be a jackass to state your opinion.
RE: RE: RE: Just IMO  
UberAlias : 2/28/2015 6:45 am : link
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It is less about line position than it is what we are deficient in. Line was not good, but specifically the critical issue is lack of push in the run game.



Totally agree. I am 100% for spending whatever it takes to get a guard now who is OK with pass blocking but very good at run blocking. We need that guy immediately. I'll bet Jerry does take care of it in the first week of F/A.



You are not as high on the player as I am, so be it. You don't have to be a jackass to state your opinion.


mrvax -I am taking it as you are being sarcastic here as you are arguing against the Scheriff pick. My apologies if you are not.
I do not believe the giants  
eli10 : 2/28/2015 7:05 am : link
will draft a WR in the 1st rd. They already have a number 1 receiver.
I would be schocked if Reese went with a WR  
ZogZerg : 2/28/2015 8:00 am : link
My money is on a Defensive pass rush type player or an offensive lineman.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Just IMO  
mrvax : 2/28/2015 8:08 am : link
In comment 12156581 UberAlias said:
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You are not as high on the player as I am, so be it. You don't have to be a jackass to state your opinion.



mrvax -I am taking it as you are being sarcastic here as you are arguing against the Scheriff pick. My apologies if you are not.


I wasn't tying to be sarcastic. I really feel we need immediate help now with a guy who is a proven mauler. I don't know if a draft pick guard will come right in and save the day. I believe it has to be solved with a premium FA. If so, it's not likely that a drafted Oline guy would start this year. It looks like Beatty-FA-Richburg-Schwartz-Pugh as it stands today. Scheriff would most likely sit, IMO.
Typically  
JonC : 2/28/2015 8:33 am : link
they reportedly stack QB, DE, WR, LT, CB on tier and in that order.

If the edge rushers truly aren't fits, then they're looking at the WRs. At that point, the key to me is Cooper or White there as I think Parker will slip a little.

So, if the above is correct, it's Peat or Scherff but Colin's heard there might not be much love in NYG for Peat. It could be Scherff in the end. DT isn't likely in the mix, that would be a significant deviation for NYG, and Shelton is very likely better suited to 3-4 NT.

I wonder if the above scenario unfolds, how high do they grade Melvin Gordon. Other than a tweener edge rusher, Gordon might be the next wildcard.



RE: Typically  
Coach Mason : 2/28/2015 8:40 am : link
In comment 12156618 JonC said:
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they reportedly stack QB, DE, WR, LT, CB on tier and in that order.

If the edge rushers truly aren't fits, then they're looking at the WRs. At that point, the key to me is Cooper or White there as I think Parker will slip a little.

So, if the above is correct, it's Peat or Scherff but Colin's heard there might not be much love in NYG for Peat. It could be Scherff in the end. DT isn't likely in the mix, that would be a significant deviation for NYG, and Shelton is very likely better suited to 3-4 NT.

I wonder if the above scenario unfolds, how high do they grade Melvin Gordon. Other than a tweener edge rusher, Gordon might be the next wildcard.




Gordon is such a talent that he is one of those rare guys that could transcend the normal order of importance the Giants place on positions.

The only other guy I would add though you likely would disagree Jon is Armstead. He just fits the prototype so well. I get the lack of production is alarming. However with our 'all eyes on pass rush mentality' and less talent on the DL than we've had from previous recent years, I could see this if they think there is big-time untapped potential there.
AA can't possibly grade out for #9 overall  
JonC : 2/28/2015 9:12 am : link
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I have to admit  
gidiefor : Mod : 2/28/2015 9:12 am : link
I like Gordon -- and he's got good hands
RE: AA can't possibly grade out for #9 overall  
Coach Mason : 2/28/2015 9:24 am : link
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Hope you are right. I personally think the risk is too high relative to the other options NYG would pass up.

Though, I can see why some Pundits like Bucky Brooks who was a former NFL scout, see some pretty amazing potential there (flashes on tape of amazing strength and ability to disrupt).
There is potential there, no doubt...  
Dunedin81 : 2/28/2015 9:31 am : link
but it's not like JPP or even Bud Dupree, he played four seasons of major college football and there were precious few "flashes" of elite talent. Dupree was inconsistent, but you can watch his tape and see why he is being considered for a high pick. Armstead looks the part, that's about it.
RE: I have to admit  
gidiefor : Mod : 2/28/2015 9:37 am : link
In comment 12156644 gidiefor said:
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I like Gordon -- and he's got good hands


But unfortunately there will be incessant comparisons to Ron Dayne with Gordon
I am really surprised with the amount of BBI'ers who want a WR in #1  
PatersonPlank : 2/28/2015 9:40 am : link
I don't really believe in BPA only, I think it is a combination of BPA and need and I think this is what most teams do (including us). Wr has Beckham, Cruz, Randle, Parker, Jernigan, plus there are some good FA's like Douglass. I'd personally rather continue to beef up the OL and DL.
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Jon in NYC : 2/28/2015 9:40 am : link
In comment 12156672 gidiefor said:
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I like Gordon -- and he's got good hands



But unfortunately there will be incessant comparisons to Ron Dayne with Gordon


The two could not be more different as players.
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gidiefor : Mod : 2/28/2015 9:45 am : link
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I like Gordon -- and he's got good hands


But unfortunately there will be incessant comparisons to Ron Dayne with Gordon


The two could not be more different as players.


Jon - there are differences and similarities - among the similarities -- Both Wisconsin star running back - Both candidates for the Heissman - both made their bread and butter avoiding being hit


RE: I am really surprised with the amount of BBI'ers who want a WR in #1  
drkenneth : 2/28/2015 9:51 am : link
In comment 12156676 PatersonPlank said:
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I don't really believe in BPA only, I think it is a combination of BPA and need and I think this is what most teams do (including us). Wr has Beckham, Cruz, Randle, Parker, Jernigan, plus there are some good FA's like Douglass. I'd personally rather continue to beef up the OL and DL.


Why is this so hard to grasp? If the BPA is a WR- You take him. Cruz shredded his knee, Randle won't be on the team in 2016...I won't even address Parker/Jernigan.

This team needs another weapon. You would take a lesser player?
RE: There is potential there, no doubt...  
Coach Mason : 2/28/2015 9:53 am : link
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but it's not like JPP or even Bud Dupree, he played four seasons of major college football and there were precious few "flashes" of elite talent. Dupree was inconsistent, but you can watch his tape and see why he is being considered for a high pick. Armstead looks the part, that's about it.


I personally agree but don't know what Giants may think. He primarily played OL in HS and then was in a 2-gap 3-4 which really may not have been best system for him to flash more in. Not saying he'll be the pick but I wouldn't fully discount him either.
RE: RE: I am really surprised with the amount of BBI'ers who want a WR in #1  
PatersonPlank : 2/28/2015 10:04 am : link
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I don't really believe in BPA only, I think it is a combination of BPA and need and I think this is what most teams do (including us). Wr has Beckham, Cruz, Randle, Parker, Jernigan, plus there are some good FA's like Douglass. I'd personally rather continue to beef up the OL and DL.



Why is this so hard to grasp? If the BPA is a WR- You take him. Cruz shredded his knee, Randle won't be on the team in 2016...I won't even address Parker/Jernigan.

This team needs another weapon. You would take a lesser player?


Just my opinion that I don't see the giants using two straight top 12 picks on WR's, especially since we do have some talent there and the fact that I believe that #3-6 WRs are pretty easy to pick up in FA. I would personally rather have Scherff, Peat, another OT, or a DT. I guess we will see.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I have to admit  
Coach Mason : 2/28/2015 10:05 am : link
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I like Gordon -- and he's got good hands


But unfortunately there will be incessant comparisons to Ron Dayne with Gordon


The two could not be more different as players.



Jon - there are differences and similarities - among the similarities -- Both Wisconsin star running back - Both candidates for the Heissman - both made their bread and butter avoiding being hit



Only big similarity was the uniform.

Dayne was the ultimate AAAA player.

You are right some lazy analysts or posters may make that comparison.

However, Gordon is on a different stratosphere in many ways. From his explosive cuts and side-steps on the second level to the ability to instantly identify and then burst through the smallest of holes in the blocking.

He checks off every single box you look for in a game-changing RB IMO. He may have 'only' run a 4.5 but when you watch the film he is routinely running past defenders who sometimes even have good angles on him. I think the hands are there too but we just didn't see it often in their offense.

Randle may have emerged...  
Dunedin81 : 2/28/2015 10:06 am : link
but unless you're pretty sure what you've got with Cruz returning it's tough to go into the season with Jernigan, Ogletree and Parker counted on as contributors. They're likely to add a WR regardless, maybe not Cooper, White or Parker but somewhere in the first three rounds.
True on this being a deep draft for WR  
PatersonPlank : 2/28/2015 10:08 am : link
I think Lockett in the 3rd would be great. Then we could spend #1 and #2 on the lines.
What about  
TMS : 2/28/2015 10:55 am : link
Alvin Dupree? A DE with good size and measurables. We have always considered this position as a high priority.
RE: What about  
Coach Mason : 2/28/2015 11:35 am : link
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Alvin Dupree? A DE with good size and measurables. We have always considered this position as a high priority.


He could be a consideration as well.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Just IMO  
UberAlias : 2/28/2015 4:44 pm : link
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You are not as high on the player as I am, so be it. You don't have to be a jackass to state your opinion.



mrvax -I am taking it as you are being sarcastic here as you are arguing against the Scheriff pick. My apologies if you are not.



I wasn't tying to be sarcastic. I really feel we need immediate help now with a guy who is a proven mauler. I don't know if a draft pick guard will come right in and save the day. I believe it has to be solved with a premium FA. If so, it's not likely that a drafted Oline guy would start this year. It looks like Beatty-FA-Richburg-Schwartz-Pugh as it stands today. Scheriff would most likely sit, IMO.


Got it. Sorry for taking it the wrong way.
Any concern  
Adam G in Big D : 2/28/2015 5:11 pm : link
that Brandon Scherff had surgery on a torn meniscus in September 2014? Does this drop him in the (your) rankings?
Scherff had an arthroscopic procedure  
Torrag : 2/28/2015 6:17 pm : link
No torn ligaments. It's not an issue.
#1 meniscus/cartliage is much worse than a torn ligament.  
drkenneth : 2/28/2015 6:28 pm : link
And Scherff may be a medical red flag.

Durability red flags that require careful examination at the Combine. Missed the second half of the 2012 season due to an ugly right leg injury (broken right leg, dislocated ankle) that required surgery and suffered a torn meniscus in his right knee in 2014 that also required surgery.
Red Flag? - ( New Window )
Scheriff  
mrvax : 2/28/2015 6:31 pm : link
is one of the guys that has the nasty streak. Peat, supposedly doesn't. I'd take the nasty bastid any day. If the Giants like him enough to pick him, I'd be 100% fine with their pick. I haven't got a favorite this year. Just trying to figure who the Giants are most likely to pick at #9.

After the 1st round, the odds of me picking their pick correctly drop to near 0.
Scherff quote on injury  
Torrag : 2/28/2015 6:41 pm : link
“I had an MRI Monday, knee scope on Tuesday, I practiced Wednesday and Thursday and then played on Saturday,” Scherff said at the Combine. “I owe something to my team. If I was able to play, I was going to play. They said two weeks or three weeks possibly. I said I felt pretty good Wednesday; can I throw my knee brace and helmet on and just do some drills. They’re like, ‘Yeah, sure, go ahead.” Thursday I told them I felt fine. They said it was up to me. So I wanted to do it.”

Yeah we don't want this guy /sarcasm off
RE: Typically  
damdevs : 2/28/2015 7:58 pm : link
In comment 12156618 JonC said:
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they reportedly stack QB, DE, WR, LT, CB on tier and in that order.

If the edge rushers truly aren't fits, then they're looking at the WRs. At that point, the key to me is Cooper or White there as I think Parker will slip a little.

So, if the above is correct, it's Peat or Scherff but Colin's heard there might not be much love in NYG for Peat. It could be Scherff in the end. DT isn't likely in the mix, that would be a significant deviation for NYG, and Shelton is very likely better suited to 3-4 NT.

I wonder if the above scenario unfolds, how high do they grade Melvin Gordon. Other than a tweener edge rusher, Gordon might be the next wildcard.


Nice post JonC.....if the draft shakes out and White and Cooper are gone with no pass rushers who fit our scheme I'd hope that we trade down and get some more picks.

I just don't want to draft someone for just for the sake of it, Scherff comes to mind, and not really get the value at that pick we need.

No clue what direction we'll go, but FA is going to dictate this for the most part.
I think this year a trade down is more likely then before  
chris r : 2/28/2015 8:52 pm : link
There's a glut of 3-4 pass rushers that will go in the first half of the first round. A team like Pittsburgh could be eyeing one of them and be looking to move up. Similarly I can imagine if Parker is there the Giants might get some calls from teams looking for a number 1 WR. Kansas City at 18 might be a logical choice.

To me that's the best case scenario. Trade down to around 20 and get a second round pick. There's a lot more value in this draft for the Giants (relative to the value of the pick) at around 20 then 9 IMO. There'd be several of OTs (Clemmings, Peat)and DTs (Brown, Davis, Armstead) for the Giants to choose from or they could even go with Gordon if they wanted a RB. The draft is so deep at WRs and the Giants don't need a #1 (or to pay 2 #1s in the future), so they can pick up a WR in the early middle rounds.


Forgot Flowers who might be there too  
chris r : 2/28/2015 8:58 pm : link
lot of good options to get back to winning in the trenches at 20.
RE: Forgot Flowers who might be there too  
Milton : 2/28/2015 9:06 pm : link
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lot of good options to get back to winning in the trenches at 20.
You also forgot Maxx Williams.
RE: RE: Forgot Flowers who might be there too  
chris r : 2/28/2015 9:14 pm : link
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lot of good options to get back to winning in the trenches at 20.

You also forgot Maxx Williams.


No I didn't.
Best case scenario for us could be a solid trade down  
SGMen : 2/28/2015 9:34 pm : link
or if Amari Cooper drops to #9.

I am quietly praying Cooper drops. OBJ and Amari together for a guaranteed four years would be AMAZING. Remember, Randle is in a contract year and Cruz is coming off a bad injury. We may not be able to sign Randle in 2016 if he puts up big numbers due to OBJ drawing double teams. And we may not want to pay Cruz his salary in 2016 - especially if he is average in 2015.

My hopes are Amari Cooper or a trade down where we get a teams #1 in say teens and a starting 3rd year OG as that would give us 2 years with him.
RE: RE: Forgot Flowers who might be there too  
drkenneth : 3/1/2015 8:52 am : link
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lot of good options to get back to winning in the trenches at 20.

You also forgot Maxx Williams.


You gonna jump off the roof when Maxx goes in the 3rd round?
Think they want a tackle  
bc4life : 3/1/2015 8:58 am : link
so if they think the value is there - should be Collins, Peat, or Scherff (even if RT).

RE: DL - Dupree or maybe Flowers.

Cooper if he is there, not sure he will be. Not sure Giants view White and certainly Parker on the same tier.

Personally, I think it will be - Collins, Peat, or Scherff. Just not sure where these guys are on Giant's board.
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