I think there are probably 3-4 players the Giants slot in their first tier
Williams
White
Cooper
and maybe Parker
If any of these guys drop -- they will be picked
If they are not there - and I'd be happy with any of them -
then I think they will have
Scherff
Shelton
Peat in the next tier
If any of these guys drop that's where the debate will begin
So - since it's likely the 2 QBs go somewhere above where the Giants pick and maybe a couple of the pass rushers (Fowler, Ray, Gregory, Beasley) go up there too. I think JonC may be right - that just like Donald - the body type of the pass rushers is not what the Giants value.
So which one do you take - Scherff, Shelton or Peat
Me - Of those 3 I think they'd take Scherff - he seems more in the Giants mold
Durability red flags that require careful examination at the Combine. Missed the second half of the 2012 season due to an ugly right leg injury (broken right leg, dislocated ankle) that required surgery and suffered a torn meniscus in his right knee in 2014 that also required surgery.
Red Flag? - ( New Window )
After the 1st round, the odds of me picking their pick correctly drop to near 0.
Yeah we don't want this guy /sarcasm off
If the edge rushers truly aren't fits, then they're looking at the WRs. At that point, the key to me is Cooper or White there as I think Parker will slip a little.
So, if the above is correct, it's Peat or Scherff but Colin's heard there might not be much love in NYG for Peat. It could be Scherff in the end. DT isn't likely in the mix, that would be a significant deviation for NYG, and Shelton is very likely better suited to 3-4 NT.
I wonder if the above scenario unfolds, how high do they grade Melvin Gordon. Other than a tweener edge rusher, Gordon might be the next wildcard.
I just don't want to draft someone for just for the sake of it, Scherff comes to mind, and not really get the value at that pick we need.
No clue what direction we'll go, but FA is going to dictate this for the most part.
To me that's the best case scenario. Trade down to around 20 and get a second round pick. There's a lot more value in this draft for the Giants (relative to the value of the pick) at around 20 then 9 IMO. There'd be several of OTs (Clemmings, Peat)and DTs (Brown, Davis, Armstead) for the Giants to choose from or they could even go with Gordon if they wanted a RB. The draft is so deep at WRs and the Giants don't need a #1 (or to pay 2 #1s in the future), so they can pick up a WR in the early middle rounds.
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lot of good options to get back to winning in the trenches at 20.
You also forgot Maxx Williams.
No I didn't.
I am quietly praying Cooper drops. OBJ and Amari together for a guaranteed four years would be AMAZING. Remember, Randle is in a contract year and Cruz is coming off a bad injury. We may not be able to sign Randle in 2016 if he puts up big numbers due to OBJ drawing double teams. And we may not want to pay Cruz his salary in 2016 - especially if he is average in 2015.
My hopes are Amari Cooper or a trade down where we get a teams #1 in say teens and a starting 3rd year OG as that would give us 2 years with him.
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lot of good options to get back to winning in the trenches at 20.
You also forgot Maxx Williams.
You gonna jump off the roof when Maxx goes in the 3rd round?
RE: DL - Dupree or maybe Flowers.
Cooper if he is there, not sure he will be. Not sure Giants view White and certainly Parker on the same tier.
Personally, I think it will be - Collins, Peat, or Scherff. Just not sure where these guys are on Giant's board.