NFT: How to save Atlantic City??

That place is a joke and I'd never go there as long as I lived. Cue the cliche music when my friends turned 21, every single idiot I knew would have their parties there and it was the most God awful dirty depressing place in the world to go to.

I also think NJ turning into a pussy state by not allowing smoking in their casinos AND in combination with casinos in surrounding states AC is not the unique destination it once was. I used to live in Galloway in 2008 and some of the stories that I've heard and the people I knew....I'm actually quite glad they got laid off.

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idiot he was under his first 25 handles

OK- genius...How does the almighty Wuphat save AC? And tell me again that AC isn't a slime-pit. Please?

better life choices, no?

Has this been a slow thing over the decades or did this suddenly happen with casinos being legalized elsewhere?

and pump a few million into making it a pristine beach.

legalize

Weed in AC

of a party I went to in AC and a bunch of people were smoking weed and this black kid was trying to peer pressure me into smoking and I'm like Um, yawn? Why would I have to do anything to impress YOU?!..

I think 7 years or so later, 3 out of the 6 or 7 people from that night are no longer alive, including the black kid. Smoke this! I'll just enjoy my life.

Is it a black kid and not just some other dude was trying to get me to smoke. What's your point.

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this douche gets banned

again

Lord knows why

as a noun.

I prefer to use it as a verb

As in, "JFC, is soda man cunting up a thread again?"

Why, yes. Yes, he is.

Acapulco Mexico.

he who excuses himself accuses himself

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two quarters, some of the casinos (Trop, Borgata, Resorts and Golden Nugget) all reported significant increases in profits over the past few years. Perhaps knocking off 4 casinos in a year or so has depleted some of the saturation in the market.

In comment 12156321 spike said:

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Acapulco Mexico.

Kidnappings and cliff diving?

maybe the market could not sustain so many of them. How do we make AC more attractive for people to come? I was not alive back then, but I heard that when it all began, people would go there to spend their vacation. It was a beach attraction too.

You can already buy it on every street corner anyway. Regulate and tax it.

They just botched the marketing pretty badly. There are very few places you can gamble and hit the beach at the same time (at least in this country), yet, I've never seen an advertisement extolling this virtue that AC has. They also might have seen this coming and made AC a bit more family friendly.

It's never going to be Vegas, but there are some positive signs. The recession hurt the city badly. I still go every month or two to play some games and hang out. It helps that I don't have to pay for rooms anymore. IMO, that was another huge mistake they made. $350+ for a Friday OR Saturday night is insane pricing for those resorts in AC. For literally $100 more you can fly to Vegas. Where would you rather go?

Still, I'm hopeful they can continue to make some changes and keep the place running. It's a good time in the summer on the boardwalk.

although you would never know. The hotels out there have activities that occupy the kids all day while the parents are getting loaded and losing their money. Mandalay Bay has a kid friendly pool area so when families come out, they may be more apt to go there.

Maybe AC needs at least one of those casinos on the boardwalk to do something different. Possibly turn it into one of those indoor water park themed hotels like the Great Wolf Lodge. The kids can play in there all day with lifeguards while the parents lose their college money.

But they've done it. More family friendly, build some nice golf courses, amusement park, something...

In comment 12156368 drkenneth said:

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But they've done it. More family friendly, build some nice golf courses, amusement park, something...

They need to follow what Coney Island has done with their broad walk, filling it with family friendly activities, while keeping visitors safe with prominent police presence.

In comment 12156368 drkenneth said:

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But they've done it. More family friendly, build some nice golf courses, amusement park, something...

Good point about the golf courses. One of the nicest courses I have played at was near Ocean City MD. It was at sea level on the bay with all of these little islands and bridges with great views. Really cool and that can be replicated on the back bay area of AC. You have to drive too far to get a round of golf in if you are in AC.

are actually some killer golf courses about 20 mins from AC. Ron Jaworski has a course there I've played. There are some great "Golf and Gamble" weekend packages that I've participated in. Always had a blast.

Agreed that one BIG family-friendly attraction could change the scene dramatically. The Tanger Outlets there draw the female crowd pretty nicely. The men have all sorts of options. They need to find things for the younger crowd.

Still, the profit bumps recently are a positive sign, and to be honest, I've enjoyed AC a bit more since Trump, Atlantic Club, Showboat and Revel have gone under. They have to do SOMETHING with the Revel property...it's so beautiful. A complete tragedy that it went under. It's a $2B albatross at the north end of the boardwalk. Crazy.

and Revel will be next.

Excuse me, Stockton UNIVERSITY.

told me that his co-workers also got jobs at Revel and that place was quite a joke. Again, with the strict non-smoking rules, that place was a joke to begin with. I heard that everyone wiped that place clean when the place closed.

I think a friend of mine went for an interview there and he told me the process consisted of them tossing around yarn? What the fuck is the purpose of that? I went into Revel only once in Feb 2012 when they were building it. The place was a disaster.

Dinner at Budakon... Stayed at Caesars....played in the ocean...had s blast on the Boardwalk... Ate great pizza....saw the light show on Boardwalk Hall and then a concert there. Had a great time. We're probably going back this summer.

In comment 12156357 EricJ said:

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although you would never know. The hotels out there have activities that occupy the kids all day while the parents are getting loaded and losing their money. Mandalay Bay has a kid friendly pool area so when families come out, they may be more apt to go there. Maybe AC needs at least one of those casinos on the boardwalk to do something different. Possibly turn it into one of those indoor water park themed hotels like the Great Wolf Lodge. The kids can play in there all day with lifeguards while the parents lose their college money.

I've been saying this for awhile - they don't all have to do it, but one of them should market directly to families and build some sort of indoor water or amusement park. They'd be tapping into a huge market that probably doesn't even give AC a second thought at this point. The beach during the summer would be the icing on the sundae.

Turn them into golf courses, amusement parks (including enclosed year round water parks), event venues, and shopping malls. Basically turn the whole place into a resort instead of the patchwork of casinos and boardwalk that it currently is.

into Atlantic City.

2 Problems solved.

In comment 12156460 Steve L said:

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Dinner at Budakon... Stayed at Caesars....played in the ocean...had s blast on the Boardwalk... Ate great pizza....saw the light show on Boardwalk Hall and then a concert there. Had a great time. We're probably going back this summer.

Your story should be made into a commercial. I do not see any advertising that talks about this.

like Norfolk or San Diego.

the government of NJ is not corrupt enough?!!

a fight they have been losing pretty much badly. But if AC is going to survive in it's current state, sports betting is a necessity.

And for the Federal Government to allow sports betting in only this or that jurisdiction violates the basic principles of equal protection under the law. To allow one thing at the Federal level to one population, is to allow it to all.

It has never been their right to choose. It's for localities and States to choose.

In comment 12157653 Sneakers O'toole said:

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a fight they have been losing pretty much badly. But if AC is going to survive in it's current state, sports betting is a necessity. And for the Federal Government to allow sports betting in only this or that jurisdiction violates the basic principles of equal protection under the law. To allow one thing at the Federal level to one population, is to allow it to all. It has never been their right to choose. It's for localities and States to choose.

Sports betting will not save AC. If NJ fights the feds and wins, all it means is that any state can allow sports betting. Which means all of those casinos in PA and NY that have been stealing AC's business will just pressure PA and NY legislatures to allow sports betting. Which would completely defeat the "advantage" sports betting gave AC. If AC gets sports betting, I predict they would have < 5 years before one of those other states starts allowing it.

should have integrated sports gambling into the lottery system just like Montana has. They have fantasy football tickets.

Maybe its just bad timing on my part, but everytime i have gone it was next to impossible to get into the really good restaurants, and rooms at the nice places are astronomically priced when within 1 block of them its a fucking cesspool.

I can go to Vegas and stay in a much nicer place for 1/3 the money and have no issues finding a great place to eat

In comment 12156320 Wuphat said:

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as a noun. I prefer to use it as a verb As in, "JFC, is soda man cunting up a thread again?" Why, yes. Yes, he is.

It is fucking tiresome with him trolling every thread.

In comment 12157876 montanagiant said:

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Maybe its just bad timing on my part, but everytime i have gone it was next to impossible to get into the really good restaurants, and rooms at the nice places are astronomically priced when within 1 block of them its a fucking cesspool. I can go to Vegas and stay in a much nicer place for 1/3 the money and have no issues finding a great place to eat

You are not wrong about everything you said after "I think it is way too late to save it". Possibly too late to save it as a gambling destination alone. However, what AC has that you cannot recreate elsewhere is that beachfront. It will take creativity to turn it into something NEW and different to attract tourists.

They would really have to clean it up and police the shit out of the area though.

In comment 12157983 EricJ said:

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You are not wrong about everything you said after "I think it is way too late to save it". Possibly too late to save it as a gambling destination alone. However, what AC has that you cannot recreate elsewhere is that beachfront. It will take creativity to turn it into something NEW and different to attract tourists.

That's what they should have been dong over the last 35 years. They had a golden opportunity to turn AC into a resort destination that was much more than gambling. They had a huge windfall providing the capital to do that. That opportunity is gone. Who is going to provide the capital needed to make it that now?

It's just going to be underwater in a few years anyways.