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redbeard : 2/28/2015 8:24 am
The standings don't matter...you know the Philthy Phucks are gonna give the Rangers hell and goon it up if the beatdown begins. Fuck 'em right in the ear. Take two points from these orange-clad cuntrags and keep the train a rollin'.


Lets fucking go, boys
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Yer  
Jon in NYC : 2/28/2015 1:52 pm : link
all cunts
RE:  
Anakim : 2/28/2015 1:57 pm : link
In comment 12156974 Davisian said:
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You're talking about Zucc there, right?


I'm sure he's a popular guy, so was Callahan (despite that weird "Drury mold" comment of yours).. The team will move on when/if a guy, any guy leaves.

The question is if the on ice product is improved in the deal, if he's dealt.

You don't know shit about the lockerrrom , so just stop it. unless you saw some you tube clips and turned that into an in depth scouting report on the inner workings of the Ranger room and the delicate balance that only Mats zuccarello can hold together..



And Stempniak is still a sled.


Again, did I not say Zucc took a big discount to remain a Ranger this year? He could've gotten more. So yeah, it's different. You can't expect him to keep taking discounts. 4.5 million is fair to the Rangers and to him. I wouldn't do 5.5, but I would still keep him around and then let him walk in the offseason. Poor asset management? Perhaps, but we're going for it this year.

And my perception of Zuccs popularity is not unwarranted. Aside from the Pat Leonard article calling him "probably the most popular Rangers player in the locker room," I see how Rangers (quite a few Rangers players) interact with him on social media. I see them doing off-ice activities with him during the summer like traveling through Europe. Hell, I think Zuccarello is living with Hagelin....OK, that's a bit stalkerish, but I think I read it somewhere.

And Stempniak sucks, but you compared his playing style to Powe and Rissmiller. They're not at all alike and Stempniak has had a significantly better NHL career than the other two.
RE: RE: At least Dav is posting on threads again.  
Anakim : 2/28/2015 1:58 pm : link
In comment 12156982 Davisian said:
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Cunt.



'Nak here sure is reminding me of all the hard hitting analysis I'm missing..


Right because we all need your "shiny sucks, sandpaper is great, nice win, suck it Fish, slurp slurp slurp slurp" comments.
I'd hate to see Zuccarello go but you can't pay him 5.5 per.  
arcarsenal : 2/28/2015 2:00 pm : link
Not with the cap seemingly not rising the way most had anticipated.
RE: I'd hate to see Zuccarello go but you can't pay him 5.5 per.  
Anakim : 2/28/2015 2:01 pm : link
In comment 12156994 arcarsenal said:
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Not with the cap seemingly not rising the way most had anticipated.


Well said. I fucking hate the cap.



Meanwhile, Tim Erixon was put on waivers.
Zucc was an RFA who avoided arbitration.  
BrettNYG10 : 2/28/2015 2:04 pm : link
Wasn't really a 'discount' - he had no leverage.
Another potential Cup run  
Wuphat : 2/28/2015 2:05 pm : link
Another year of 'Nak overreacting

Some things never change
But seriously, wouldn't be the worse thing to pick up Erixon  
Anakim : 2/28/2015 2:06 pm : link
though he definitely wouldn't be the answer to our biggest need of a third-pairing LHD.

So much for his "high floor, high ceiling" projection that many here and on Twitter were making when he was traded here.
RE: Another potential Cup run  
Anakim : 2/28/2015 2:06 pm : link
In comment 12157007 Wuphat said:
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Another year of 'Nak overreacting

Some things never change


Whatever that means
....  
BrettNYG10 : 2/28/2015 2:07 pm : link
@zuccarello36: Congratz to @RMcDonagh27 on becoming the 27th capt of the NY Rangers! Well deserved!! #ELcapitano

@zuccarello36: Congrats @mstlouis_26 on 1000 points in the nhl🌟🌟 im right behind u bud only 897p to go👍

Look at how he interacts with other players on social media. Fucking incredible.
RE: Zucc was an RFA who avoided arbitration.  
Anakim : 2/28/2015 2:07 pm : link
In comment 12157002 BrettNYG10 said:
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Wasn't really a 'discount' - he had no leverage.


He would've gotten more in arbitration. 59 points wouldn't net 3.5 in arbitration. He would've gotten more.
It means every season  
Wuphat : 2/28/2015 2:08 pm : link
you pick someone or something about the Rangers that sets you off into an irrational tizzy that no amount of reasoning with you will change.

This year, it's Zuc
RE: ....  
Anakim : 2/28/2015 2:09 pm : link
In comment 12157012 BrettNYG10 said:
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@zuccarello36: Congratz to @RMcDonagh27 on becoming the 27th capt of the NY Rangers! Well deserved!! #ELcapitano

@zuccarello36: Congrats @mstlouis_26 on 1000 points in the nhl🌟🌟 im right behind u bud only 897p to go👍

Look at how he interacts with other players on social media. Fucking incredible.


Scroll down even further...


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You wish you were short enough to ride this
RE: It means every season  
Anakim : 2/28/2015 2:09 pm : link
In comment 12157016 Wuphat said:
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you pick someone or something about the Rangers that sets you off into an irrational tizzy that no amount of reasoning with you will change.

This year, it's Zuc


What was it last year? That I wanted Callahan gone?
Let's try that again  
Anakim : 2/28/2015 2:10 pm : link
RE: RE: It means every season  
Wuphat : 2/28/2015 2:12 pm : link
In comment 12157019 Anakim said:
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In comment 12157016 Wuphat said:


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you pick someone or something about the Rangers that sets you off into an irrational tizzy that no amount of reasoning with you will change.

This year, it's Zuc



What was it last year? That I wanted Callahan gone?


Hell, who can remember from year to year what it is that sets you off?
RE: RE: RE: It means every season  
Anakim : 2/28/2015 2:14 pm : link
In comment 12157023 Wuphat said:
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In comment 12157019 Anakim said:


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In comment 12157016 Wuphat said:


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you pick someone or something about the Rangers that sets you off into an irrational tizzy that no amount of reasoning with you will change.

This year, it's Zuc



What was it last year? That I wanted Callahan gone?



Hell, who can remember from year to year what it is that sets you off?


Clearly you, if you think I overreact year after year. I mean the only thing that I recall was the drafting of McIlrath, but that was in the offseason.
Recalling that you do something  
Wuphat : 2/28/2015 2:16 pm : link
is not the same as remembering what it was that set it off
I like Zucc  
PaulN : 2/28/2015 2:18 pm : link
But they have his replacement and upgrade on the roster and playing, and he is Hayes, he would be great on the right wing on that line, so if they did make a trade for Vermette and got a haul for Zucc, I would be Ok with it, Vermette would be an upgrade at center for Hayes, Hayes would be an upgrade at right wing for Zucc. That would give us 4 good centers, and it would give us little more size also. If they do keep Zucc, that is fine also, but if he wants 5.5r, no way, and Staal was worth his contract, but I expect some not to think so. he got a little less then he would on the open market, Zucc getting 4.5 is all he is worth, to pay 5.5 is a joke.
RE: I like Zucc  
Anakim : 2/28/2015 2:20 pm : link
In comment 12157029 PaulN said:
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But they have his replacement and upgrade on the roster and playing, and he is Hayes, he would be great on the right wing on that line, so if they did make a trade for Vermette and got a haul for Zucc, I would be Ok with it, Vermette would be an upgrade at center for Hayes, Hayes would be an upgrade at right wing for Zucc. That would give us 4 good centers, and it would give us little more size also. If they do keep Zucc, that is fine also, but if he wants 5.5r, no way, and Staal was worth his contract, but I expect some not to think so. he got a little less then he would on the open market, Zucc getting 4.5 is all he is worth, to pay 5.5 is a joke.


You realize Vermette is gonna have similar contract demands to Zucc. Otherwise, Vermette is just a rental.
RE: Recalling that you do something  
Anakim : 2/28/2015 2:20 pm : link
In comment 12157027 Wuphat said:
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is not the same as remembering what it was that set it off



Well, when you think of it, come back to me
I'm really not crazy about Vermette.  
arcarsenal : 2/28/2015 2:21 pm : link
But for some reason I feel like Slats has had a hardon for getting him here since he was made available and this might be how it happens.
RE: RE: Recalling that you do something  
Wuphat : 2/28/2015 2:23 pm : link
In comment 12157033 Anakim said:
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In comment 12157027 Wuphat said:


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is not the same as remembering what it was that set it off




Well, when you think of it, come back to me


You seem to miss the point.

The details don't matter.

The point is that every year, it's something that only you seem to have intimate foreknoweledge of the impending disaster that never comes.
RE: RE: RE: Recalling that you do something  
Anakim : 2/28/2015 2:26 pm : link
In comment 12157037 Wuphat said:
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In comment 12157033 Anakim said:


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In comment 12157027 Wuphat said:


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is not the same as remembering what it was that set it off




Well, when you think of it, come back to me



You seem to miss the point.

The details don't matter.

The point is that every year, it's something that only you seem to have intimate foreknoweledge of the impending disaster that never comes.


Well, apparently I have no idea what you're talking about so I would like it if you gave me some examples...
Just remember this  
Wuphat : 2/28/2015 2:27 pm : link
next year when it happens again.

Looks like zucc will be a goner  
bxgiants4 : 2/28/2015 2:27 pm : link
Brooks w the scoop
RE: Just remember this  
Anakim : 2/28/2015 2:28 pm : link
In comment 12157044 Wuphat said:
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next year when it happens again.


Haha, ok then
I don't want to talk about Zucc getting traded  
Anakim : 2/28/2015 2:35 pm : link
Makes me depressed.



Any interest in Tim Erixon off waivers? Or Rob Zepp as a backup to Talbot?
OK, one more quote:  
Anakim : 2/28/2015 2:36 pm : link
Andrew Gross ‏@AGrossRecord 1m1 minute ago
Talbot on Zucc: "Very instrumental in our winning attitude right now..a guy that has intangibles you cant really measure on or off the ice"
Lmao at...  
DJ5150 : 2/28/2015 4:56 pm : link
"Orange clad cuntrags!"... Hahaha Priceless ... Go Rangers!!!
Risky  
blue42 : 2/28/2015 4:59 pm : link
move with a team in 1st and a strong Cup contender.
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Davisian : 2/28/2015 5:09 pm : link
In comment 12156988 Anakim said:
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In comment 12156974 Davisian said:


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You're talking about Zucc there, right?


I'm sure he's a popular guy, so was Callahan (despite that weird "Drury mold" comment of yours).. The team will move on when/if a guy, any guy leaves.

The question is if the on ice product is improved in the deal, if he's dealt.

You don't know shit about the lockerrrom , so just stop it. unless you saw some you tube clips and turned that into an in depth scouting report on the inner workings of the Ranger room and the delicate balance that only Mats zuccarello can hold together..



And Stempniak is still a sled.




Again, did I not say Zucc took a big discount to remain a Ranger this year? He could've gotten more. So yeah, it's different. You can't expect him to keep taking discounts. 4.5 million is fair to the Rangers and to him. I wouldn't do 5.5, but I would still keep him around and then let him walk in the offseason. Poor asset management? Perhaps, but we're going for it this year.

And my perception of Zuccs popularity is not unwarranted. Aside from the Pat Leonard article calling him "probably the most popular Rangers player in the locker room," I see how Rangers (quite a few Rangers players) interact with him on social media. I see them doing off-ice activities with him during the summer like traveling through Europe. Hell, I think Zuccarello is living with Hagelin....OK, that's a bit stalkerish, but I think I read it somewhere.

And Stempniak sucks, but you compared his playing style to Powe and Rissmiller. They're not at all alike and Stempniak has had a significantly better NHL career than the other two.



So we've proven that zucc did not "take a big discount" to stay.

Avoiding arbitration was not out of kindness.


And that last part is why it is impossible to respect any argument you bring to the table.


I said nothing about playing styles, I said adding sleds like Stempniak and Glass is the same rismillering of the roster. Wasting money on the bottom of the roster before even seeing if younger guys already in the system can do the jobs.

And now there's a cap crunch because of that rismillering.


Go watch Biggs on Canada.

RE: RE: RE: Recalling that you do something  
hudson : 2/28/2015 5:16 pm : link
In comment 12157037 Wuphat said:
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In comment 12157033 Anakim said:


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In comment 12157027 Wuphat said:


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is not the same as remembering what it was that set it off




Well, when you think of it, come back to me



You seem to miss the point.

The details don't matter.

The point is that every year, it's something that only you seem to have intimate foreknoweledge of the impending disaster that never comes.

Anak the Zanax.
Yeah, like you have room to criticize  
Wuphat : 2/28/2015 5:21 pm : link
anyone.

At least he's consistent and sticks with one team.

I hate the Flyers  
soda man : 2/28/2015 5:34 pm : link
What a douchey team and a douchey ass logo and douchey ass fans..

What color is #TheDress they ask? Well, I know one thing for sure that the color of the Flyers dress they're going to be wearing tonight is black and blue. I have no worries and am 1000% confident the Rangers will beat down the Flyers tonight. Flyers had FIFTY shots on goal against the Leafs and still didn't win. No excuses.

As others have performed on BBI hockey threads in the past, in a mewl yowl; "Let's fucking go boys!"
Lol @ Wuphat  
soda man : 2/28/2015 5:36 pm : link
Policing threads and making everything a "Me vs. You" issue. Leave him alone.
I just hope that Sather doesn't want to send a message and  
baadbill : 2/28/2015 5:50 pm : link
end up trading Zucc for less than Zucc's value to this team this year ... let him play out the season and leave, he's still playing for a cup and playing to showcase himself in FA ... and he's damn valuable to this team because he plays a role and he plays it damn well
Well, say what you want about Sather's FA  
Wuphat : 2/28/2015 5:52 pm : link
deals, but for the most part, he's won on the trades he's orchestrated.

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here, too.

RE: RE: RE:  
Anakim : 2/28/2015 6:06 pm : link
In comment 12157155 Davisian said:
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In comment 12156988 Anakim said:


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In comment 12156974 Davisian said:


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You're talking about Zucc there, right?


I'm sure he's a popular guy, so was Callahan (despite that weird "Drury mold" comment of yours).. The team will move on when/if a guy, any guy leaves.

The question is if the on ice product is improved in the deal, if he's dealt.

You don't know shit about the lockerrrom , so just stop it. unless you saw some you tube clips and turned that into an in depth scouting report on the inner workings of the Ranger room and the delicate balance that only Mats zuccarello can hold together..



And Stempniak is still a sled.




Again, did I not say Zucc took a big discount to remain a Ranger this year? He could've gotten more. So yeah, it's different. You can't expect him to keep taking discounts. 4.5 million is fair to the Rangers and to him. I wouldn't do 5.5, but I would still keep him around and then let him walk in the offseason. Poor asset management? Perhaps, but we're going for it this year.

And my perception of Zuccs popularity is not unwarranted. Aside from the Pat Leonard article calling him "probably the most popular Rangers player in the locker room," I see how Rangers (quite a few Rangers players) interact with him on social media. I see them doing off-ice activities with him during the summer like traveling through Europe. Hell, I think Zuccarello is living with Hagelin....OK, that's a bit stalkerish, but I think I read it somewhere.

And Stempniak sucks, but you compared his playing style to Powe and Rissmiller. They're not at all alike and Stempniak has had a significantly better NHL career than the other two.




So we've proven that zucc did not "take a big discount" to stay.

Avoiding arbitration was not out of kindness.


And that last part is why it is impossible to respect any argument you bring to the table.


I said nothing about playing styles, I said adding sleds like Stempniak and Glass is the same rismillering of the roster. Wasting money on the bottom of the roster before even seeing if younger guys already in the system can do the jobs.

And now there's a cap crunch because of that rismillering.


Go watch Biggs on Canada.


Uh, yes he did. By signing a deal, both sides avoided arbitration. He would've gotten more in arbitration given his season (remember, he led the team in points). Hence, he did take a discount.

And it's not my fault you didn't make it clear. I'm paraphrasing but you said something along the lines of, "Stempniak is another Rissmiller and Powe." Yeah, Stempniak's 900K for one year is clearly killing the cap. Only you thought that was a bad deal. Hell, even if Glass signed for that kind of deal, it would make it more tolerable even though Glass sucks to high heaven (and you think Glass and Stempniak are in the same boat).

And who exactly would've been on our fourth line from within the system? A 4th line of Moore-Duclair and Fast? What happened to your "MORE GRIT" argument that you've been preaching about for years?

Go suck off Fish. SLURP SLURP SLURP
The Rangers have the best record in hockey the last two months  
Torrag : 2/28/2015 6:10 pm : link
I've flip flopped don't trade the Hobbit. Leave it the fuck alone.
Holy shit you guys are a mess  
soda man : 2/28/2015 6:10 pm : link
Take a few seconds and chill out. Maybe you should take a few pointers from arcarsenal, one of the few good hockey posters here.
soda man  
B in ALB : 2/28/2015 6:12 pm : link
is Hudson right?
If Carolina beats the Isles  
sphinx : 2/28/2015 6:27 pm : link
what are the odds that Phill beats the New Yorkers?

Carolina won't beat the Isles.  
arcarsenal : 2/28/2015 6:33 pm : link
They're awful and already blowing it.

We just have to win again.

Also, soda man isn't hudson. He's a lot smarter.
RE: soda man  
Wuphat : 2/28/2015 6:37 pm : link
In comment 12157211 B in ALB said:
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is Hudson right?


I don't thin so.

SM is a dupe troll who goes away and comes back every 4 months or so.

This is the second time he's used soda man as his name.

It's only a matter of time before he's banned again.
Ok maybe I was wrong about Carolina.  
arcarsenal : 2/28/2015 6:38 pm : link
Wow.
I'm starting to agree with MAB  
Greg from LI : 2/28/2015 6:50 pm : link
It wouldn't surprise me if the push to trade Zuccarello is spurred on by the Rangers knowing already that the King won't be back this season.....thus no Cup run to worry about messing up with a deal.
if Henrik  
MookGiants : 2/28/2015 6:54 pm : link
isn't coming back why is he even on the ice at all in practice? Doesn't make sense.
RE: I'm starting to agree with MAB  
baadbill : 2/28/2015 6:58 pm : link
In comment 12157249 Greg from LI said:
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It wouldn't surprise me if the push to trade Zuccarello is spurred on by the Rangers knowing already that the King won't be back this season.....thus no Cup run to worry about messing up with a deal.


First, the thought of his not returning this year makes me sick to my stomach - if he can't return this year, it means its possible he never returns.

But anyway, IF that were the case - why would that justify the Rangers making a trade? It means it would then be ok to make a sucky trade? If it was a good trade, then it wouldn't matter, right? So, this logic only applies if they make a sucky trade - and why would they do that under any circumstances? (other than Sather just being a prick?)
I think they've just implemented a policy  
Phil in LA : 2/28/2015 6:59 pm : link
that they're not going to let guys play out their contracts if they can't get and extension. I hope the Yanks are paying attention.
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