With the number 9 overall pick we don't need an eventual impact player, we need an immediate impact player that is a playmaker/game changers for at least 5+ years. Not since Plaxico have the Giants been able to put a large intimidating receiver on the field (Ramses Barden doesn't count). If Kevin White and Shelton aren't around, I think we go with Devante over Scherff and Cooper.
I believe if we get to sign Bulaga then Scherff will not even be in the discussion anymore. Also, Devante's hands, speed, and height translate alot better than Cooper does to the NFL. Cooper is a greater Miles Austin type receiver (which isn't bad), but Devante Parker is an AJ Green with some of his catches and body control.
I've attached the Devante Parker Highlights below. Let me know what you think. And hey remember the number 3 ranked receiver last year is now the reigning ROY.
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I'd love to land defensive help. Boy, do we need it. But do we draft Owamagbe Odighizuwa or Dupree just to land a DE, or do we take the BPA at our highest tier?
What we need to do is fix the defense in FA so we are not in a position where we feel forced to select a lesser defensive player out of need.
And what would you say if Dupree puts up 30+ on the bench? I am asking why he wouldn't be worth a #9, with or without JPP?
White 4.35 doesn't show up on film as much as Parker's speed does.
I've seen alot of both and Parker is pulling away from defenders more often than White does.
I believe all 3 will be legit #1 NFL WRs.
I do love Cooper perhaps a touch more though for system fit. I could see him becoming a better version of Steve Smith almost from day 1 and quickly developing that 'E.S.P.' on the field with ELi kind of like what Stevie had with him.
I do love Cooper perhaps a touch more though for system fit. I could see him becoming a better version of Steve Smith almost from day 1 and quickly developing that 'E.S.P.' on the field with ELi kind of like what Stevie had with him.
That would be great. I do miss Stevie. He was always making grabs on third down to get the first.
I just think we're one or two weapons away from being too explosive of an offense with Odell. Sometimes the best move is not to spend your most valued pick on your weakness to make it mediocre, but to improve even more on our "strength" (a.k.a. Odell) to make that unstoppable. We can overhaul the defense in the second and third rounds and FA, but another WR threat, scatback of a RB, and an OL. This offense is ready to defeat the best defenses the NFL has to offer.
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I believe all 3 will be legit #1 NFL WRs.
I do love Cooper perhaps a touch more though for system fit. I could see him becoming a better version of Steve Smith almost from day 1 and quickly developing that 'E.S.P.' on the field with ELi kind of like what Stevie had with him.
That would be great. I do miss Stevie. He was always making grabs on third down to get the first.
I just think we're one or two weapons away from being too explosive of an offense with Odell. Sometimes the best move is not to spend your most valued pick on your weakness to make it mediocre, but to improve even more on our "strength" (a.k.a. Odell) to make that unstoppable. We can overhaul the defense in the second and third rounds and FA, but another WR threat, scatback of a RB, and an OL. This offense is ready to defeat the best defenses the NFL has to offer.
Heck yeah. Would love to bring the offense to another level. We all talk about OBJ but some serious cred has to go to McAdoo.
He moved this kid all around constantly creating mismatches no matter how hard the other team tried to key on him.
If Ben was able to do that with one bonafide weapon on offense imagine if we give him 1-2 more?
Would have loved to see what MacAttack could have done with a weapon like Wilson.
No surprise Giants supposedly are interested in Tevin Coleman, probably one the more similar guys to Wilson in this draft.
Is there any OL you find better than him in free agency? To me I think we have two young OL and could use another solid veteran on the line.
I wouldn't be unhappy if we pick him. I'd simply prefer a handful of other players.
Obviously Parker will have less drops as he saw a lot less passes go his way.
Cooper had 6 drops. He had 124 catches.
Don't get me wrong I'd be very happy with Parker, but to try to downgrade Cooper by using drops is absurd.
Parker is much more elusive that Cooper.
Parker high points well.
Parker basket catches more balls than I would have liked to see.
Parker moves like a smaller receiver. I didn't know his height but I was very surprised to see that he is 6'3"
He reminds me of Ike Hilliard in the way he moves.
I wouldn't be mad if he were picked.
Boylhart had this to say...
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And there's this, FWIW.
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No offense, but thank God you aren't our GM. I don't think there is a single GM in the league that would take Williams over Parker.
The addition of Maxx Willaims would help a lot more than the addition of Parker. Would you rather have the next Jason Witten or the next DeAndre Hopkins? Which do you think would be more help to Eli?
Yes because the Giants need to draft a TE in the first round so he can catch 55-60 passes.. 600-700 yards and 6 TD's which is what TE's roughly have averaged under Coughlin..
The lunacy that a TE would be of greater benefit than a Bonafide #2 receiver is so delusional..
Judge for yourself, I've been very impressed by the interviews with him that I've watched. He comes across as a team player, intelligent, confident, and mature for his age....
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"That Minnesota tight end came across as all about himself from what people in our room said. They were a little turned off by him." -- NFC regional scout about Minnesota tight end Maxx Williams
Judge for yourself, I've been very impressed by the interviews with him that I've watched. He comes across as a team player, intelligent, confident, and mature for his age.... Maxx Williams interview at combine - ( New Window )
Pretty sure the interview conducted by the team is a totally different animal with totally different questions..
p.s.-- What's your opinion of his character, intelligence, and maturity based on the interview I linked?
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Pretty sure the interview conducted by the team is a totally different animal with totally different questions..
But those interviews don't appear on youtube. Are you going to trust some anonymous team official during draft season or are you going to form your own opinion based on the interviews with him that are available?
p.s.-- What's your opinion of his character, intelligence, and maturity based on the interview I linked?
I didnt even bother to look Milton... because I dont care.. The Giants are not taking Maxx Williams @ 9..
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see any way you can take him over Cooper if both are available.
Put on the tape. Cooper is smooth and 6'1" but he drops alot more passes than you'd think. And even at the combine he made some catches look more difficult then they actually were. I don't know me personally I'm not sold on him. But if the Giants draft him I'll go with what our professional scouts think about him over the youtube videos lol
If he had 124 catches last year, how many drops could he possibly have had? Was the ball thrown to him 20 times a game?
Tell me he wouldn't be the perfect complement to Cruz and OBJ....
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I didnt even bother to look Milton... because I dont care.. The Giants are not taking Maxx Williams @ 9..
If you had taken the time, you would've come away impressed. The Giants are very unlikely to take Williams with the 9th pick, but maybe they would do it with the 20th pick?
I would punch all kinds o face if this happennedd
White and Cooper are much more complete receivers at this point.
Likely not to the level of Evans and OBJ (which is extremely rare for any rookie WR) but perhaps somehwere in the neighborhood to what Watkins did.
Not so rare to see 3rd or 4th receiver selected end up pretty good. Nicks and OBJ as a couple prime examples.
Parker might have the highest upside of the 3. His catching radius is pretty sick and his game speed is better than White's IMO.
but the thing that's really surprising to me is the tape on Dorial Green-Beckham - this guy could be a bona-fide superstar -- the comparisons to Randy Moss are pretty spot on
I'm of the opinion that Cruz at 90% what he was is better most #2s in the league and would still present enough of a threat to cause teams to pause about only worrying about Beckham.
If we dont fix the D this offseason (Spags alone will not do it) then those games where the offense is struggling, we'll have no chance.
The Giants going WR in round 1 will say alot about Cruz's rehab and potential this season.
but the thing that's really surprising to me is the tape on Dorial Green-Beckham - this guy could be a bona-fide superstar -- the comparisons to Randy Moss are pretty spot on
Million dollar talent, 10 cent brain. He apparently bombed his combine interviews too. My outside impression: stay away.
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of Cooper, White and Parker -- but they are all pretty talented - and 3 very different types of receivers -- White is definitely more physical than the other two -- Parker has great height and uses his body well -- Cooper is very fluid and smooth
but the thing that's really surprising to me is the tape on Dorial Green-Beckham - this guy could be a bona-fide superstar -- the comparisons to Randy Moss are pretty spot on
Million dollar talent, 10 cent brain. He apparently bombed his combine interviews too. My outside impression: stay away.
Randy Moss was pretty much a moron too - but a heck of a talent on the gridiron
Giants typically don't draft Dez or DGB types. Guys who are not willing to mature and will likely be trouble,headaches and drama throughout their career.