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NFT: Report: Rangers Acquire Keith Yandle

nyjuggernaut2 : 3/1/2015 4:24 pm
Early rumor going around is Duclair might be part of the package. Hope that's not true.
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RE: This deal fucking sucks more dick than Tori Black  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/2/2015 7:24 pm : link
In comment 12158503 Greg from LI said:
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Slow as shit Keith Yandle. Fucking awesome return for a blue chip prospect and a decent depth defenseman. And here I thought I could not get angrier than losing on a DZ shorty last night. just a terribly shortsighted deal. God forbid the Rangers ever develop a young scoring winger of their own when they can trade for Keith fucking Yandle and give up a shit load for him, too.

If there ever needed to be an endorsement for anything, it would be Jorts knocking it. JFC, just shut up.
RE: he's sure as hell not fast  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/2/2015 7:26 pm : link
In comment 12158528 Greg from LI said:
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Average speed, maybe.

Could have had Stralman AND Duclair and no Boyle, and now they overpay like a motherfucker for 18 months of an overrated offense-only defenseman.

Average speed sure isn't "slow as shit."

Why don't you just admit you don't know what the fuck you're talking about?
RE: Yandle has average 22+ mins a game  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/2/2015 7:33 pm : link
In comment 12158720 Kyle in NY said:
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for the last five seasons. How much could he possibly be sheltered? Greg, no offense but how much of the Coyotes have you watched lately to be able to make such definitive statements on the guy?

Fuck the "no offense" nonsense. He has no idea what he's talking about. If he's not complaining, he's not posting.
And you are?  
Greg from LI : 3/2/2015 8:00 pm : link
Wait, never mind, I couldn't care less who you are. Look up Yandle's QoC Corsi and o - zone starts and get back to me when you have the faintest idea what the fuck you're talking about beyond "durrrrrrr Keith Yandle ' s been an All Star once or twice! "
Fair enough  
Kyle in NY : 3/2/2015 8:02 pm : link
Intrigued to watch him here. First period looked good at least!
Btw I figure you were mostly responding to that other guy  
Kyle in NY : 3/2/2015 8:03 pm : link
Lol
well, yeah, didn't mean you Kyle  
Greg from LI : 3/2/2015 8:24 pm : link
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RE: Brooksie already speculating  
Anakim : 3/3/2015 12:27 am : link
In comment 12158855 JonC said:
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on potential buyout for Boyle, saving $3M on the cap next season (pushing $1.5M onto the following season).


Aside from that, wouldn't surprise me if they try to trade Staal in the offseason. In fact, I think the Yandle-Klein pairing has a chance of becoming the second pairing next year, especially if they're confident with McIlrath becoming the third pair RHD.
They just signed him to a new deal  
redbeard : 3/3/2015 6:41 am : link
And he is the second best D on the team ......we are not trading him
RE: RE: Brooksie already speculating  
JoeyBigBlue : 3/3/2015 7:21 am : link
In comment 12160581 Anakim said:
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Aside from that, wouldn't surprise me if they try to trade Staal in the offseason. In fact, I think the Yandle-Klein pairing has a chance of becoming the second pairing next year, especially if they're confident with McIlrath becoming the third pair RHD.


Staal is really underrated by BBI, sometimes I wish he had tested the Free Agent market.
Staal or Yandle at LD3 seems untenable for next season  
Deej : 3/3/2015 7:48 am : link
I would do the following:

Yandle-McDonagh (McD played RD very well in Sochi)
Staal-Girardi/Klein
Allen/Skjei-Klein/Girardi

Trade Boyle if possible. Let this be a lesson to Sather -- quit giving out NTC/NMCs. It will prevent us from shopping Girardi for two more seasons, and at that point he might just be unmovable.
I think you'll like Yandle.  
Andy in Halifax : 3/3/2015 8:18 am : link
Seems like a guy that needed a new home. I think he'll rock for the Rangers.

Steep price though, no doubt about it.
Small sample after one game  
Torrag : 3/3/2015 10:02 am : link
but Yandle looked smooth, skated well and has a soft touch moving the puck. Wasn't cheap but could pay dividends.
Anak  
JonC : 3/3/2015 11:06 am : link
I'd think looking to trade Girardi makes more sense.
I am really not that up on Yandle  
Matt M. : 3/3/2015 11:08 am : link
How much of his big (-) rating was a product of the team he played on and how much on him? Is it just a coincidence in his first game he was on the ice for the opposition's only goal or is he really a poor defender?
RE: Anak  
MetsAreBack : 3/3/2015 11:11 am : link
In comment 12161036 JonC said:
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I'd think looking to trade Girardi makes more sense.


I believe Girardi has a no trade clause. Second, his contract makes him a lot tougher to move this offseason than just trying to trade Boyle to a team for the one year left on his deal. Boyle even at a fairly high cap number should be a fairly easy dump - teams need defenders, especially the teams that just dumped guys for draft picks... Philly for example would probably take him.
obviously Boyle would need to agree to a trade  
MetsAreBack : 3/3/2015 11:12 am : link
which isnt a given, but the guy hates his role here, and its about to get worse for him - 3rd pair, less power play time, etc.
'I believe Girardi has a no trade clause'  
schabadoo : 3/3/2015 11:14 am : link
I think it's a partial, like only for the first three years. I could be wrong on that.

I think you could move Boyle in the offseason. Maybe Mcllrath will be ready.
MAB  
JonC : 3/3/2015 11:14 am : link
Understood RE: Girardi, but I meant him instead of Staal and also to try and move or buyout Boyle.
Girardi has a full NTC in the first three years of the deal  
BrettNYG10 : 3/3/2015 11:15 am : link
And a modified one in the last three.
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arcarsenal : 3/3/2015 11:16 am : link
Girardi is going to be nearly impossible to move.
Holy fuck  
Fish : 3/3/2015 11:20 am : link
this has been discussed already...like a million times.
Somebody was advocating trading Staal? why?  
MetsAreBack : 3/3/2015 11:20 am : link


I know we root for the laundry... but there are certain guys on this roster i want to go to war with the next 3-5 years... if we dont win a Cup with them so be it, but these are the guys I want to live and die with and see hoist a Cup on Garden ice:

-Hank
-Stepan
-Staal
-Girardi (I understand the long-term concerns)
-MZA
-D Moore (because he lost his wife)

Obviously i really like our other players too, thats not the point. But i want to see these guys above rewarded for their commitment to this organization that in most cases extends back to the lockout. A championship with these guys would make it all that much more sweeter and Goddamn it, they deserve it. I deserve it too by the way. Get it done.
Gents  
JonC : 3/3/2015 11:21 am : link
I get that, but it shouldn't preclude Sather from trying to find a team DG would accept a trade to, he can make it happen. Moving Staal makes less sense, moving Boyle seems certain, just a matter of how/when.
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BrettNYG10 : 3/3/2015 11:22 am : link
I don't think the team has any interest in moving Girardi anyway. He hasn't noticeably declined from last season when they just gave him a huge deal.
McD too obviously  
MetsAreBack : 3/3/2015 11:22 am : link

and fuck that slurping jizz fuck Fish right in her mouth.
Brett  
JonC : 3/3/2015 11:23 am : link
Just wait until the cap crunch kicks in ... his contract makes the most sense to move, other than Boyle.
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BrettNYG10 : 3/3/2015 11:36 am : link
I suspect the team had that in mind when they extended Girardi. Stepan, MSL, and Hags are the only guys up this off-season, and after next year Kreider is up again.

I don't claim intimate knowledge about the cap, but I have to think those scenarios were in their minds when they re-signed him.
Meaning, they likely had a plan for the first three years  
BrettNYG10 : 3/3/2015 11:37 am : link
Until they could move him.
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arcarsenal : 3/3/2015 11:40 am : link
Kreider is the one that worries me the most. I think he could turn into a 30 goal scorer next year and turn into a premier PFD with elite speed. He could turn into a 6 per player and it's going to be hard for us to clear the space.
MAB  
Kyle in NY : 3/3/2015 11:48 am : link
I definitely share that affinity for guys like Giardi, Staal, and Hank (obviously) who have been here a long time and helped bridge the gap from those somewhat successful Jagr teams to the excellent group we have now. Same reason it was so tough to see Cally go, despite the financial sense that it made.
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BrettNYG10 : 3/3/2015 12:00 pm : link
I never liked Cally as much as most - as a superbly talented individual myself, grit and work ethic don't resonate with me as it does for the less fortunate here.

Also he was a fucking whining diver. Brassard's filled in for him in that regard.
I understand Brett  
Kyle in NY : 3/3/2015 12:10 pm : link
we can only hope to see things from your gifted perspective haha
Btw  
JonC : 3/3/2015 12:54 pm : link
sportrac and nhl numbers are both prorating the cap hits for the new Rangers ... sportrac has them just over the cap, the other site has them about 750k under.
just over for next season?  
MetsAreBack : 3/3/2015 12:56 pm : link
or just under?

Either way, should be manageable assuming they can dump Boyle.
This season  
JonC : 3/3/2015 1:05 pm : link
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Next season  
JonC : 3/3/2015 1:11 pm : link
we have ~$60M committed and a cap estimated in the $69-72M range.

MSL or Hags (or other) is a goner ... perhaps Boyle too.
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arcarsenal : 3/3/2015 1:14 pm : link
I'm guessing Stepan gets something in the vicinity of a 5x5
RE: Anak  
Anakim : 3/3/2015 1:14 pm : link
In comment 12161036 JonC said:
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I'd think looking to trade Girardi makes more sense.


Depends if they feel McDonagh can play on the RS. And as Deej said, I don't think it's tenable to have Yandle on the third pairing and we need to open up cap space.

So methinks either Girardi and Staal will be gone. Did Uncle Larry have a brainfart regarding the Boyle buyout and the 35+ rule? Something like:

McDonagh/Staal-Girardi/McDonagh
Yandle-Klein
Skjei-McIlrath/Boyle
arc  
JonC : 3/3/2015 1:15 pm : link
I think he's north of $6M, especially with Krecji at $7.5M (!!)
arc  
JonC : 3/3/2015 1:21 pm : link
and I agree with you on Kreider, he's ascending right into that price range.
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BrettNYG10 : 3/3/2015 1:22 pm : link
Stepan's worth more than Ryan O'Reilly, who everyone blows.

I think he's our most valuable forward. Brassard got 5 and 5, and Stepan's much more valuable.
No Glass tomorrow?!!?  
Anakim : 3/3/2015 1:31 pm : link
Rangers Report ‏@rangersreport 1m1 minute ago
So it looks as if Sheppard will play on the wing in Detroit with Moore and Fast, which means Glass is scratched.


Shep was skating with Moore and Fast. Glass was filling in for Zuccarello.


YES! YES! YES!
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arcarsenal : 3/3/2015 1:31 pm : link
North of 6 would be a lot for Step. I think Krejci is a better player. Anything under 6 is fair, IMO.. beyond that it gets dicey.

And I'm someone who loves Step and think he's a lock to stay regardless.
I think Step stays  
JonC : 3/3/2015 1:42 pm : link
but he and his agent took a shave on his current deal, given his RFA status.
I'm enjoying this argument between Sean Avery and Dustin Penner  
Anakim : 3/3/2015 1:47 pm : link
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RE: No Glass tomorrow?!!?  
BrettNYG10 : 3/3/2015 1:49 pm : link
In comment 12161343 Anakim said:
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Rangers Report ‏@rangersreport 1m1 minute ago
So it looks as if Sheppard will play on the wing in Detroit with Moore and Fast, which means Glass is scratched.


Shep was skating with Moore and Fast. Glass was filling in for Zuccarello.


YES! YES! YES!


Please don't do this yes yes yes bullshit.
RE: RE: No Glass tomorrow?!!?  
Anakim : 3/3/2015 2:04 pm : link
In comment 12161391 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 12161343 Anakim said:


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Rangers Report ‏@rangersreport 1m1 minute ago
So it looks as if Sheppard will play on the wing in Detroit with Moore and Fast, which means Glass is scratched.


Shep was skating with Moore and Fast. Glass was filling in for Zuccarello.


YES! YES! YES!



Please don't do this yes yes yes bullshit.


Hey man, I'm a wrestling fan. I can do it. Our brothers on the Island can't because they have no idea where it comes from. #AmericanDragon #BryanDanielson



Granted the chant sucks now. The Islanders ruin everything.
RE: No Glass tomorrow?!!?  
NYerInMA : 3/3/2015 2:12 pm : link
In comment 12161343 Anakim said:
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Rangers Report ‏@rangersreport 1m1 minute ago
So it looks as if Sheppard will play on the wing in Detroit with Moore and Fast, which means Glass is scratched.


Shep was skating with Moore and Fast. Glass was filling in for Zuccarello.


YES! YES! YES!


Shh! Don't jinx it...
Step  
Deej : 3/3/2015 2:43 pm : link
my guess is 6 years, 6.25 to 7 million, which I think would represent a bit of a discount. He's not a top 10 center, but he's got to be top 15.
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