Highest impact first 2 picks possible

make the biggest impact when the Giants already have Prince and DRC as their starting CB's and McBride and likely Thurmond behind them?

To a JAG like McBride? Thurmond not under contract.

Prince is entering the last year of his deal. And coming off of IR.

You need 3 good corners minimum and NYG doesn't have that right now.

I don't think Waynes is that good anyway. At least not good enough to go top 10. From what I've watched he is a guy that should go around 20-25.

Amari Cooper is going to have a big impact this year. Whether it is with us or somebody else.

and McBride is better than JAG. Yeah you are right Prince is a free agent at the end of the year and Thurmond is a free agent now but the Giants are working on extensions for both players. You said Waynes would make an immediate impact but how would he make an impact if he isn't starting? If he is the #3 cornerback can he play the slot? Has he ever played the slot in college?

was a Revis type player and the Giants didn't have DRC and Prince, I'd be inclined to agree about him.

Then again, if he was that exceptional out of college as Revis was, he'd likely be picked earlier than 9.

Waynes could be a real possibility. Good call.

In comment 12158776 Rjanyg said:

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Waynes could be a real possibility. Good call.

I am all for the BPA approach and I know the Giants say that that is their governing philosophy in the draft. But corner is one area where that position might be the exception. With DRC, Prince, McBride and resigning Thurmond III, we can look to a more urgent need.

Im with you, I just won't say " they is no way Reese picks a CB ". I want Beasley, Fowler, Shelton or the best WR left and I'll be happy. Can't deny Wayne's is the best DB in the draft, but I also like Shaw.

I wouldn't hate this IF Thurmond isn't resigned. Which is a big if at this point anyway.

doubt Waynes is in their top 10.

trade down. It would have the added bonus of breaking the hearts of Eagles fans who are hoping for a corner round one. Not a reason to draft him, just a bonus.

...with the 9th pick in the draft, you can't complain, even if he doesn't fill a strong need. Last year the Giants lost three of their top four CB's to IR and the one who lasted through the season was hobbled at times. And it's not as if any of the four have truly proven themselves (although Prince is still getting better).

- He's a free agent next March.
- He'll be 30 in September.
- He has dressed for a total of 37 games the past six years.
- Of those six years, he spent three on IR and one on his couch.

Yes, McBride was a pleasant surprise in 2013. Healthy, he's a nice player to have around. His influence on whether the Giants spend a premium draft pick on a cornerback is zero.

Coming back to the topic of the thread, I don't recall many CBs who elevated their teams right away. For every Kyle Fuller, aren't there several Darqueze Dennards and Dre Kirkpatricks - not to mention longer-term flops like Mo Claiborne and Dee Milliner? And how big was Fuller's impact, really? Chicago's pass defense dropped from average in 2013 to abysmal in 2014.

If it's just a matter of Waynes carrying a first round grade, I would rather they went with a similarly graded OL or DL. But if they think he's Revis type special (and you'll recall that Reese tried to trade up for Revis in 2007), you don't pass that up just because of DRC and Prince.

If you want impact, though, you're looking at DE, RB, WR, OLB, possibly OL and maybe even safety because the roster is so thin there. MLB too if you can find a Luke Kuechly, but those are pretty rare. In the Giants' state, even a Chris Borland could be an impact rookie.

The edge rusher (DE/OLB) positions are tricky. You're unlikely to add a plug-and-play rookie starter there. The big potential immediate impact is probably from a situational player like Aldon Smith. Again, not exactly easy to find.

If a cornerback is the clear BPA on their board, the Giants will draft him, period. That's a very different question from "impact".

but for those saying he isnt top ten...what have you been watching? the guy ran a 4.31 and did nothing but play press man at mich st. he is a physical corner with a long reach...sherman anyone? i think waynes is going to be the real deal but i dont pick him at 9 if im the giants. i would love a guy like beasley because of his ability to rush from anywhere. i am sure spags would love it. i also like landon collins however i think he may be a reach at 9. i think OL should be addressed via FA and the first two picks should be defense. I would love perryman in second if avail. wouldnt mind trading down from 9 to mid first round taking landon collins and picking up an extra couple picks in mid rounds...they if necessary trade up a little in second round using one of those extra picks and taking perryman early on day 2. you immediately add 2 guys to that defense who are close to if not top rated at their position coming out of college. id be happy!

You lost me at Landon Collins.

I said I didn't expect Waynes to be in the Giants top ten but I'm no expert. I'm sure he will be in somebody's top ten. I wouldn't be upset with picking Waynes, I would be upset with Landon Collins.

In comment 12159945 LakeGeorgeGiant said:

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I wouldn't be upset with picking Waynes, I would be upset with Landon Collins.

Same with me.

#1 RT who can play VERY WELL (better than Beatty) at LT next year - Collins?
#2 WR who can start over Randle next year. Many are available
#3 RB with some burst, catching ability and special teams
#4 S there isn't much value but maybe we get lucky
#5 OG one that can actually play
#6 DE a special teamer with upside as Kiwi is gone
#7 DT a body, maybe someone who got hurt and fell.

That is what I'd like.