NFT: Report: Duke Coaches, Administrators Ignored Sexual Assault

a shitstorm is a-brewin.'

I guess?

if it turns out the allegations against the administration are true. Timing seems a little suspect though, so let's see where it goes.

is pitching a tent outside Cameron as we speak.

And burn Cameron Indoor Stadium to the ground.

K's damage control will be in full effect.

he decided he could win without him I guess.

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it was so dumb for the administrators/coaches to not report this. I can see them wanting to gather some facts on their own (especially since the accusers did not file a complaint with the school or the police), but it said they found out almost a year ago. Shouldnt take that long to gather some evidence.

Wanting to gather the facts is fine with me, since i wouldnt expect them to just start kicking kids off the team jsut because someone says they did something, but they should have reported it to at least the school.

That I believe is soon to ne released that looks directly at this issue at colleges across the country.

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From the Academy Award-nominated filmmaking team behind THE INVISIBLE WAR, comes a startling exposé of sexual assault on U.S. campuses, institutional cover-ups and the brutal social toll on victims and their families.

The Hunting Ground - ( New Window )

In comment 12159332 Italianju said:

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it was so dumb for the administrators/coaches to not report this. I can see them wanting to gather some facts on their own (especially since the accusers did not file a complaint with the school or the police), but it said they found out almost a year ago. Shouldnt take that long to gather some evidence. Wanting to gather the facts is fine with me, since i wouldnt expect them to just start kicking kids off the team jsut because someone says they did something, but they should have reported it to at least the school.

Why should they "gather facts"? They're not law enforcement. They're not even student discipline. Pass it up the chain, if he is cleared or if there isn't enough to go forward so be it but let the people actually responsible for sorting this shit out do it.

Is this different than winston??

Penn State covered up child abuse by a coach and I think that's a whole other level then covering up sexual assault by college aged kids.

Feel free to tell me I'm wrong.

Preempt - I'm not trying to defending sexual assault. If Duke did this the administrators should be fired and face legal consequences. But it doesn't compare to what PSU did.

In comment 12159468 Giantsfan79 said:

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Penn State covered up child abuse by a coach and I think that's a whole other level then covering up sexual assault by college aged kids. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong. Preempt - I'm not trying to defending sexual assault. If Duke did this the administrators should be fired and face legal consequences. But it doesn't compare to what PSU did.

Should the coach be fired?

In comment 12159468 Giantsfan79 said:

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Penn State covered up child abuse by a coach and I think that's a whole other level then covering up sexual assault by college aged kids. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong. Preempt - I'm not trying to defending sexual assault. If Duke did this the administrators should be fired and face legal consequences. But it doesn't compare to what PSU did.

McQueary reported he "had seen something inappropriate" to Paterno. Paterno reported what McQueary had said he had seen to the AD and the chief of campus police. The AD and chief of campus police then met with McQueary and took his statement. The AD reported the meeting results to the university president. The university president reported the incident to the Second Mile, where Sandusky was getting the kids. As of yet, nothing has been heard from, and no investigation of, the Second Mile charity. This is how it was covered up.

In comment 12159561 Peter in Atl said:

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In comment 12159468 Giantsfan79 said: Quote: Penn State covered up child abuse by a coach and I think that's a whole other level then covering up sexual assault by college aged kids. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong. Preempt - I'm not trying to defending sexual assault. If Duke did this the administrators should be fired and face legal consequences. But it doesn't compare to what PSU did. Should the coach be fired?

In the PSU case, yeah I think JoPa should have been fired. The Freeh Report indicates enough people knew and a blind-eye was turned. The Head Coach is responsible for his coaches and players. In the Duke case, if evidence comes forward that Coach K tried to cover it up, then yeah he should be fired too.

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knew about the allegations. The alleged victims refused to press charges for fear of "backlash" from the school's hoop fans. How does K throw him off the team? How about the on-campus sex crimes reporting cottage industry? Make book the cops were called. Everything else that happened was shielded not in a cover-up but rather by confidentiality rules.

and nowhere did I read that Duke violated federal reporting laws. I'm not clear why that was alleged in the OP so if it is true I'd appreciate a reference.

if word of allegations made at a campus retreat got back to the athletic department, wouldn't they have gone through numerous intermediaries with their own duties to report? It almost seems like extrapolation from limited information.

wait for more details to emerge before starting in on the comparisons.

in line with PSU. However, what I am missing is the federal reporting law. Isn't this if the students were minors? Regardless, there is no fact gathering to be done by anyone in the athletic department. they have no role in law enforcement. They should be reporting this up in the university and/or law enforcement authorities.

are shady in my book. They are all fucking loaded with wealth and they all depend on earning mass amounts of wealth.

I just can't trust any entity that has a shit load of power and needs to keep earning shit loads of money. This shit never surprises me. And the bags of shit at the top that perpetuate the lies and coverups are one in the same. Yeah they look oh so nice on TV performing lip service and they look so nice at the fund raisers...but these people are all the same. They all need to win and they all need power. Guess how far these people will go to remain at the top?

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In comment 12159773 Dunedin81 said:
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The Chronicle also reports that high-ranking members of the university's athletic department were aware of the allegations as early as March 2014, and violated federal law by failing to report them.

I don't believe the Clery Act requires the reporting to law enforcement of third-hand allegations. Absent the reporting of a crime by the victims or witnesses, or any other evidence, the school's only obligation appears to be to follow its own internal reporting and investigation processes. Based on only what's been reported here, that senior administrators were notified, it would appear that Duke has at least followed the law in this matter.

that things are not always what they initially seem. If this is the way it happened then some people should be held responsible. However I will let an investigation happen, and the facts come to light, before screaming for Duke to be reprimanded. Lots of question marks remain.

and Deadspin may have jumped the gun in saying someone violated the law. If they had the information and it was properly reported, what next? Absent charges or university discipline, or anything more than a third-hand report, do you cancel a scholarship? Kick him off the team? Now if it comes to light that they did violate the law, that's a completely different story.

is just bad journalism, using Penn State as an example that doesn't apply. PSU employees were mandated reporters because they were educators faced with the abuse of minors.

and well they should. A huge violation of Title IX.