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NGT: Schefter McCoy for Alonso trade

Defenderdawg : 3/3/2015 6:35 pm
@AdamSchefter: Filed to ESPN: Bills have notified LB Kiko Alonso he is going to be traded to Philadelphia for RB LeSean McCoy. Trade official next week.
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Rex is pumped  
rdt288 : 3/3/2015 7:05 pm : link
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RE: ...  
Emil : 3/3/2015 7:05 pm : link
In comment 12161898 Eric from BBI said:
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We play the Bills this year.


Eric, of course that means we're going to the super bowl :)
RE: There are times as a fan  
figgy2989 : 3/3/2015 7:05 pm : link
In comment 12161907 Matt in SGS said:
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when you wonder if the front office of teams know more than we do and we will end up looking back and seeing why they made a move and it pays off. This isn't one of those times. This is 100% Chip Kelly thinking his system allows for him to plug and play any running back and he doesn't need to pay that much for the production that McCoy gives. McCoy was a nightmare for the Giants. I can't wait for Kelly to give up the farm for Mariotta and have that whole thing implode.


Exactly! Let's hope he gives up a skins type haul to move up to get him. Put the iggles in limbo for the next 4 years...
RE: ...  
Rocky369 : 3/3/2015 7:05 pm : link
In comment 12161898 Eric from BBI said:
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We play the Bills this year.


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sphinx : 3/3/2015 7:06 pm : link
Andrew Brandt ‏@adbrandt 3m3 minutes ago
Updated: Kiko Alonso has 2 years left on contract at $746,000 and $942,000. LeSean McCoy has 3 years left at $10.25M, $6.9M and $7.6M.

RE: ...  
AcidTest : 3/3/2015 7:06 pm : link
In comment 12161898 Eric from BBI said:
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We play the Bills this year.


Thanks for the reminder.
Wonder if they'll go after Murray  
jeff57 : 3/3/2015 7:07 pm : link
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I could see Ray Rice  
bigbluehoya : 3/3/2015 7:07 pm : link
To the Eagles as part of the committee that Chip brings in to replace McCoy.
I'd join in on the group high five  
illmatic : 3/3/2015 7:08 pm : link
but I can't help but think the Eagles will draft Gurley or something now.
RE: Rex is pumped  
Bleedin Blue : 3/3/2015 7:08 pm : link
In comment 12161911 rdt288 said:
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LOL! he's got his Buffalo Bills decked out truck, he's wearing a Thurman Thomas Jersey, now all he has to do is get Sanchez to come to Buffalo, and he'll be in maturbitory heaven!
On-balance, it's probably smart for the Eagles.  
Enoch : 3/3/2015 7:10 pm : link
Let an aging, expensive RB go before he starts to decline, and get a young, cheap, talented MLB on the rise.

But to make it really work, they've got to put the cap space generated to good use. With a question mark at QB, and with no McCoy, that offense doesn't have much in the way of identity outside of Chip himself. (Sproles is great, but he's a part-time player.)
RE: On-balance, it's probably smart for the Eagles.  
Emil : 3/3/2015 7:11 pm : link
In comment 12161923 Enoch said:
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Let an aging, expensive RB go before he starts to decline, and get a young, cheap, talented MLB on the rise.

But to make it really work, they've got to put the cap space generated to good use. With a question mark at QB, and with no McCoy, that offense doesn't have much in the way of identity outside of Chip himself. (Sproles is great, but he's a part-time player.)


I would have agreed with you, but 26 is not aging. He is also under contract for 3 more years, which means the Bills can part with him before he is 30.
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Dave in Hoboken : 3/3/2015 7:11 pm : link
@ESPNNFL: The Bills have notified LB Kiko Alonso he will be traded to the Eagles for RB LeSean McCoy next week (via @AdamSchefter)
I think the Eagles are far smarter than we are giving them credit for.  
Don in DC : 3/3/2015 7:12 pm : link
They always get rid of guys at the right time. I had McCoy on my fantasy team this past season. He wan ENORMOUS disappointment.

RBs breakdown and slide from excellence into mediocrity in the blink of an eye, and from mediocrity into decrepitude just as quickly. My guess is that McCoy is pretty much done as a feature back, and that's why the Eagles are dumping him.
Watkins + McCoy + great D  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/3/2015 7:13 pm : link
give the Bills a legitimate QB and they're gonna do some damage.

But "just a QB away" has been Rex Ryan's mantra since day 1.
I agree that the  
Semipro Lineman : 3/3/2015 7:13 pm : link
fact that the draft is seen as very deep at the running back position probably factors into this move. A little while ago, Clayton stated in his updates that the depth of running backs in the draft was going to affect the running back free agent market. I think this is proof of that
1,319 yds  
Emil : 3/3/2015 7:14 pm : link
doesn't spell done as a feature back.

Is he probably not the same player as two years ago? Sure probably, but you can make the argument that a new system could benefit him. One with a lead blocker perhaps and lest shotgun formation runs.

I'm not ready to close the door on McCoy yet.
RE: I think the Eagles are far smarter than we are giving them credit for.  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/3/2015 7:15 pm : link
In comment 12161928 Don in DC said:
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They always get rid of guys at the right time. I had McCoy on my fantasy team this past season. He wan ENORMOUS disappointment.

RBs breakdown and slide from excellence into mediocrity in the blink of an eye, and from mediocrity into decrepitude just as quickly. My guess is that McCoy is pretty much done as a feature back, and that's why the Eagles are dumping him.


He was 3rd in the league in rushing yards.

He had a down year compared to previous years. But he's absolutely still a feature back in this league.
RE: ...  
speedywheels : 3/3/2015 7:15 pm : link
In comment 12161898 Eric from BBI said:
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We play the Bills this year.


True, but at least Giants have to face him only once this year. And won't have to again for another 4 years...
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Danny Kanell : 3/3/2015 7:18 pm : link
Spiller is on NFL Network saying he's been told they wont be bringing him back.
Alonso Traded?  
Trainmaster : 3/3/2015 7:18 pm : link
Well he did switch from Ferrari to McLaren for the 2015 Formula 1 season.

'Wake-Up Call: The System Will Take Care Of It''  
sphinx : 3/3/2015 7:18 pm : link
interesting article posted early this AM on "Birds 24/7"

Link - ( New Window )
RE: On-balance, it's probably smart for the Eagles.  
Toth029 : 3/3/2015 7:19 pm : link
In comment 12161923 Enoch said:
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Let an aging, expensive RB go before he starts to decline, and get a young, cheap, talented MLB on the rise.

Few things.

McCoy has some mileage, but is 26. He has 2-3 great years left. He has little injury history. For that, he's worth the price.

As for Alonso, dude has a big injury history and only has one season accrued in the league. You and I have zero ability to see how he'll be. He could be great. He also could be a non-factor and another over-hyped division rivlal people always tend to do when they acquire them.

What's this Eagle team done in the playoffs?
RE: Can we trade them  
Mason : 3/3/2015 7:21 pm : link
In comment 12161905 Mike in NY said:
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Spencer Paysinger for Mychal Kendricks?


My first thought was what would he give for Paysinger, too. Can't hurt to ask?
Would this potentially  
JayBinQueens : 3/3/2015 7:24 pm : link
make them a player for Demarco (though I don't think the scheme is a fit) or Cobb?
$30.275M  
sphinx : 3/3/2015 7:24 pm : link
Bart Hubbuch ‏@BartHubbuch 21s21 seconds ago
Chip Kelly, settling all family business. MT @spotrac: Eagles cleared $30.275M w/release of Casey/Williams/Herremans/Cole & trade of McCoy.

Wow  
JonC : 3/3/2015 7:25 pm : link
ESPU just scrolled the trade, Chip Kelly is a riverboat gambler.
Kelly is a moron.some of this may have been  
LauderdaleMatty : 3/3/2015 7:25 pm : link
Said but u less they Land a guy like Suh why? they are fucked. That offense will fall apart without him. Arrogance on full dispy. Hope he trades his whole draft for Mariotta now.
If its a salary dump  
old man : 3/3/2015 7:28 pm : link
along with the Trent Cole cut,and I think they have Cap $$$$ to spare, are they positioning for a Suh signing and/or a big move for Mariota?
It does feel like the Eagles are getting out at the right time  
Go Terps : 3/3/2015 7:30 pm : link
I'd be happy to move on from McCoy if I were an Eagle fan, but trading him for an Oregon guy would worry me. Mariotta may not be far behind.

If Oregon is too soft to compete with the very best in college football, why would they be tough enough for the NFL? Kelly is very smart and a really good coach, but he may be flying too close to the sun here.
RE: It does feel like the Eagles are getting out at the right time  
Danny Kanell : 3/3/2015 7:32 pm : link
In comment 12161956 Go Terps said:
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I'd be happy to move on from McCoy if I were an Eagle fan, but trading him for an Oregon guy would worry me. Mariotta may not be far behind.

If Oregon is too soft to compete with the very best in college football, why would they be tough enough for the NFL? Kelly is very smart and a really good coach, but he may be flying too close to the sun here.


Agree with this entire post.
When Kelly was hired  
BigBlueCane : 3/3/2015 7:34 pm : link
he did an interview stating that he believed his schemes would be enough on offense and he just had to build something on defense to win in the NFL.
yep also agree with that Terps  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/3/2015 7:35 pm : link
he seems like he's going all in on Oregon, Mariota is likely on his way. This is going to be a fascinating off-season when it comes to the Eagles/Kelly.
RE: It does feel like the Eagles are getting out at the right time  
speedywheels : 3/3/2015 7:39 pm : link
In comment 12161956 Go Terps said:
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I'd be happy to move on from McCoy if I were an Eagle fan, but trading him for an Oregon guy would worry me. Mariotta may not be far behind.

If Oregon is too soft to compete with the very best in college football, why would they be tough enough for the NFL? Kelly is very smart and a really good coach, but he may be flying too close to the sun here.


I agree with the philosophy of getting out a year early than a year late, but the guy is only 26 and doesn't have very much tread - also has no injury history to speak of. He has 2-3 of top production left, easily...
Then again if the target is Suh, that wouldn't be awesome  
Go Terps : 3/3/2015 7:39 pm : link
But regarding Mariotta, I don't often feel this strongly about a college QB...he stinks. He's mobile, but his throwing reminds me so much of Matt Leinart it's scary. In both college playoff games he didn't make a single NFL throw. I don't see an NFL starter there.
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Danny Kanell : 3/3/2015 7:42 pm : link
I wonder if his plan is to accumulate as much cap room as possible to supplement the loss of premium picks its going to take to move up to get Mariota. Then go on a speeding spree on young 2nd contract free agents.
It's  
AcidTest : 3/3/2015 7:42 pm : link
a salary dump. McCoy right now is a better player than Alonso, but the Eagles want to dump his salary. The Bills have also apparently told Spiller he won't be back.
RE: Alonso Traded?  
GmanND : 3/3/2015 7:44 pm : link
In comment 12161939 Trainmaster said:
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Well he did switch from Ferrari to McLaren for the 2015 Formula 1 season.



Now he's got to pass concussion protocol too after hitting the wall in practice.
I just hope the Bills land a QB  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/3/2015 7:47 pm : link
because that team could be downright nasty with a real QB. I'm going to be rooting for that team bigtime next year given their division.

Too bad Sanchize is probably the best free agent QB.
I don't think McCoy's done  
giants#1 : 3/3/2015 7:48 pm : link
he had the toe (??) injury at the end of preseason and struggled the first 4 games. The last 12, he averaged ~95 yards/game and he's only had 3 seasons with over 300 touches (1 with over 350), which is fairly low wear and tear.
Kelly REALLY believes in his system  
Jesse B : 3/3/2015 7:52 pm : link
Over the last 2 years the Eagles will have moved on from DeSean Maclin and Mccoy. Their three best offensive weapons.

Good. I don't believe like Kelly apparently does that playmaker can be manufactured in the NFL through the system.

I think the Eagles are a whole lot less scary than they were when he took over
I actually think  
PaulBlakeTSU : 3/3/2015 7:55 pm : link
this is a good move for the Eagles. I wonder if they considered trading McCoy to help move up to get Mariota.
NFL network  
AnishPatel : 3/3/2015 7:55 pm : link
saying it came down to Shady buying in.. Man people ripped Coughlin about his tough training camps and everything. Amazing what Kelly is doing in Philly. He won a power struggle in a stare down. Now he has full control and is purging the team of personalities.

No more Cole, Jackson and now Shady, I would be VERY impressed if he can continue to purge the team, and add his type of players, and still be successful next season and following seasons.
Chip kelley  
SJGiant : 3/3/2015 7:56 pm : link
He has been in hiding for weeks not speaking to the press. Well tonight, he is speaking at the Katz JCC in Cherry Hill, NJ. G. Cobb, ex linebacker for the Eagles, is a moderator. Ought to be interesting to hear philly radio tomorrow.
This is a great day for the Giants.  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/3/2015 7:57 pm : link
Best day in quite awhile for the Giants, actually.
$48.6 million  
sphinx : 3/3/2015 8:00 pm : link
Ebenezer Samuel ‏@ebenezersamuel 49s49 seconds ago
Per spotrac, Eagles now have $48.6 million under the salary cap. Hmmm....

RE: Kelly REALLY believes in his system  
speedywheels : 3/3/2015 8:01 pm : link
In comment 12161982 Jesse B said:
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Over the last 2 years the Eagles will have moved on from DeSean Maclin and Mccoy. Their three best offensive weapons.


When did the Eagles dump Maclin???
Alonso tore one ACL in college  
mikeygiants : 3/3/2015 8:02 pm : link
and the other last year. Suh is not going to look good in green.
RE: Alonso tore one ACL in college  
Toth029 : 3/3/2015 8:05 pm : link
In comment 12161993 mikeygiants said:
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and the other last year. Suh is not going to look good in green.

Where's Suh fit in a 3-4?
Spiller to the Giants?  
Rflairr : 3/3/2015 8:06 pm : link
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