Dillon Gee VS Wandy Rodriguez!
Its been an especially long offseason Mets fans. Its been an even longer return to respectability. We may or may not make the playoffs this year but this team is expected to be good and to contend in 2015. We've waited years for this. It all starts against the Braves in Orlando. Let's GO Mets!
(Lineups to follow)
robertbrender Robert Brender
Was told Mets players no longer have their "Take the damn thing" shirts. I haven't checked further but was told they were taken back.
anyway, haven't been looking forward to baseball for a few years. first time in a long time I am eager.
hopefully the Mets get through the spring healthy and my goal is meaningful august baseball (baby steps)
anyway, haven't been looking forward to baseball for a few years. first time in a long time I am eager.
hopefully the Mets get through the spring healthy and my goal is meaningful august baseball (baby steps)
"Players at spring training in Port St. Lucie, Fla. were given T-shirts that say Take The Damn Thing, according to Robert Brender of SNY. The thing is presumably the NL East, which the Mets havent won since their last trip to the postseason in 2006."
From 2013
""Silva, 16, is 6 feet, 170 pounds with long arms, a high-waisted frame and a loose delivery. He throws strikes and generates sink on his fastball, which he can run up to the low-90s at times. He also throws a mid-70s breaking ball and a solid changeup for his age. Silva trained with Julio Bolivar.""
No. I couldn't dip out of work today unfortunately. I took a half day tomorrow though and am driving to Vierra.
Just not sure why we should care what a ballplayer thinks. I don't ask my barber his view on homosexuality. I vehemently disagree with Murphy's stance but Bean was there and Murphy was "too honest". Made me proud to be a Met fan to read Sandy's comments on Bean. I wish I could say Murphy's comments surprise or truly bother me but I don't care what he thinks either way (or any player). He's probably closer to the majority amongst current players.
Lucas Duda (intercostal strain) plans to swing a bat today for the first time in three weeks. #mets
It's funny how his critics are kinda sorta in a weird way doing something similar. They are bashing him and saying he can't think that way, he is not allowed to have a religious belief.
Would love to see Gee have a strong preseason so we can trade him for something. We're pretty thin at 1B, so let's hope this Duda injury doesn't linger.
Like I said, 100% not complaining. Just went from Duda/Ike/Lutz/Dykstra, to basically Duda/Allen or slide over someone who is already on the roster.
If it were only for a couple weeks however, Id have no problem with Cuddy at first but hopefully not something we have to go through.
Anyways, baseball is back baby!
lagares cf
den dekker rf
flores ss
darnaud c
niehwenhuis lf
campbell 3b
allen 1b
plawecki dh
herrera 2b
gee rhp
braves
young cf (nice to see u again)
peterson ss
freeman 1b
gomes dh
pierzynski c
c johnshon 3b
callapso 2b
almonte rf
hunter lf
rodriguez lhp
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If we waive Puello does another team have to keep him on the big league roster in order to make the claim? They wouldn't be able to claim him and stash him right?
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I know, right?
Zero chance? If he's making 20 million in arbitration and is a year from FA there is zero chance? Okay then.
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lol
Ahhhhh, that explains why the Mets FORCED Harvey to NOT pitch last year, against his will. Makes all the sense in the world now...
Dario Alvarez, Erik Goeddel, Jack Leathersich, Akeel Morris, Scott Rice, and Zack Thornton
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Harvey is released or traded because the Mets can't pay his arbitration years. Assuming he is pitching at a high level it would never happen.
Zero chance? If he's making 20 million in arbitration and is a year from FA there is zero chance? Okay then.
Isn't the record awarded in arbitration 10M? I read Trout is expected to earn around 12M.
If Harvey pitches so well he's awarded 20M in arbitration isn't he winning cy young awards or at worst being a lights out pitcher? By then Wright will be older and Harvey will become the face of the team.
Trade is one thing which I'd never rule out, but it's silly to suggest, beyond silly actually, the Mets cut him because he's too good.
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Harvey is released or traded because the Mets can't pay his arbitration years. Assuming he is pitching at a high level it would never happen.
Zero chance? If he's making 20 million in arbitration and is a year from FA there is zero chance? Okay then.
Trading him for a boatload of prospects in a walk year when he has no intention of not testing free agency is far different then the Mets trading him because they can't afford to pay his arbitration.
Agreed but I thought you were alluding that the Mets couldn't afford him in his later years and would entertain not paying his arbitration years because they were "too cheap". So in my mind that meant not offering arbitration if it was really that bad. Apologies if I took that wrong.
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Harvey is released or traded because the Mets can't pay his arbitration years. Assuming he is pitching at a high level it would never happen.
Zero chance? If he's making 20 million in arbitration and is a year from FA there is zero chance? Okay then.
Isn't the record awarded in arbitration 10M? I read Trout is expected to earn around 12M.
If Harvey pitches so well he's awarded 20M in arbitration isn't he winning cy young awards or at worst being a lights out pitcher? By then Wright will be older and Harvey will become the face of the team.
Trade is one thing which I'd never rule out, but it's silly to suggest, beyond silly actually, the Mets cut him because he's too good.
2013 Lincecum put in for 21.5, Giants countered 17. 20 is 100% realistic come 2017 if Matt harvey is indeed Matt Harvey.
" In theory, the framework for Lincecum's deal was forged last Tuesday, when he and the Giants exchanged proposed salary figures for one-year contracts, a fundamental step in the arbitration process. Lincecum asked for $21.5 million, the largest request ever submitted by a player with less than six years' service time. The Giants countered with $17 million, the richest offer ever made by a ballclub in an arbitration case since the process was implemented in 1974."
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Release? Cut? What?
Toby Hyde has gone oddly radio silent on twitter and his website 1/23 was his last update on his site and 1/28 his last tweet.
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Harvey is released or traded because the Mets can't pay his arbitration years. Assuming he is pitching at a high level it would never happen.
and you said this:
My apologies, I should have probably assumed you only meant traded, but either case I'd be surprised if his trajectory is such that he's outpacing other arbitration records by leaps and bounds, with the on-field results to support it, and he's traded.
the lone caveat I guess would be if Wheeler, deGrom, Matz, Thor, Montero, etc, all pan out and trading Harvey yields like a Mookie Betts and Moncada or players like that.
"On Friday, Tigers left-hander David Price agreed to a one-year contract for the 2015 season, a contract that will pay him $19.75 million. That is a new record salary for an arbitration-eligible player, smashing the old record set just last year by Max Scherzer ($15.25 million).
Price was expected to set the record -- MLB Trade Rumors projected an $18.9 million salary -- mostly because he's an excellent pitcher, compiling an 86-51 record with a 3.21 ERA (121 OPS+) and 1,147 strikeouts in 1,221 1/3 career innings. Price also has a Cy Young (2012) as well as a second place finish in the voting (2010) to his credit. He's also been an All-Star four times."
I don't think "20" is outlandish at all for Matt Harvey given these comparisons.
Not released. I meant not offered arbitration and I already apologized. Geezus.
My bigger point remains. The Mets aren't getting rid of Harvey by any means possible due to them not being able to pay his arbitration. That's ludicrous IMO
Maybe the billboard shames ownership into selling? Did his analysis factor in the billboard?
"On Friday, Tigers left-hander David Price agreed to a one-year contract for the 2015 season, a contract that will pay him $19.75 million. That is a new record salary for an arbitration-eligible player, smashing the old record set just last year by Max Scherzer ($15.25 million).
Price was expected to set the record -- MLB Trade Rumors projected an $18.9 million salary -- mostly because he's an excellent pitcher, compiling an 86-51 record with a 3.21 ERA (121 OPS+) and 1,147 strikeouts in 1,221 1/3 career innings. Price also has a Cy Young (2012) as well as a second place finish in the voting (2010) to his credit. He's also been an All-Star four times."
I don't think "20" is outlandish at all for Matt Harvey given these comparisons.
Aren't these contracts? The best I can tell no player has actually been awarded more than $10M in arbitration, have they? I know it stands to reason the team proposes slightly less than projected and the player submits slightly more and if possible they come to agreement on a contract - like in these cases.
But I couldn't find an example of a player being awarded more than $10M.
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can mention release all he wants. I said he could be traded because they are cheap. When was the last time a player worthy of "20 million" was released? I would never make such a ridiculous claim and not really sure why he did.
Not released. I meant not offered arbitration and I already apologized. Geezus.
My bigger point remains. The Mets aren't getting rid of Harvey by any means possible due to them not being able to pay his arbitration. That's ludicrous IMO
No. The Mets conceivably could/would trade Matt Harvey vs. paying him 20 million for 1 year only to see him walk (if they were in fact resigned to this fact). They very possibly could/would see 20 million plus a boatload of prospects being worth more than 1 year of Matt Harvey at 20 million. Not looking to get into another Wilpon debate but until we see the payroll increase substantially seeing is believing and guys like Harvey, Wheeler, deGrom, TDA and even Duda will become more and more expensive and limit what you do. Notice teams like the A's and Rays end up shipping off their good players once they get to that point.
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Price got 19.75.
"On Friday, Tigers left-hander David Price agreed to a one-year contract for the 2015 season, a contract that will pay him $19.75 million. That is a new record salary for an arbitration-eligible player, smashing the old record set just last year by Max Scherzer ($15.25 million).
Price was expected to set the record -- MLB Trade Rumors projected an $18.9 million salary -- mostly because he's an excellent pitcher, compiling an 86-51 record with a 3.21 ERA (121 OPS+) and 1,147 strikeouts in 1,221 1/3 career innings. Price also has a Cy Young (2012) as well as a second place finish in the voting (2010) to his credit. He's also been an All-Star four times."
I don't think "20" is outlandish at all for Matt Harvey given these comparisons.
Aren't these contracts? The best I can tell no player has actually been awarded more than $10M in arbitration, have they? I know it stands to reason the team proposes slightly less than projected and the player submits slightly more and if possible they come to agreement on a contract - like in these cases.
But I couldn't find an example of a player being awarded more than $10M.
Yes. They settled. That's generally what happens. But the 19.7 was a mid-point that the Tigers felt comfortable. They didn't randomly come up with that number. MLBTR projected Price would have received 18.9 million if he would have gone through with arbitration.
If they're paying Murphy 8M+ for his level of contribution I think they'll pay Harvey 20M for Price numbers.
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can mention release all he wants. I said he could be traded because they are cheap. When was the last time a player worthy of "20 million" was released? I would never make such a ridiculous claim and not really sure why he did.
Not released. I meant not offered arbitration and I already apologized. Geezus.
My bigger point remains. The Mets aren't getting rid of Harvey by any means possible due to them not being able to pay his arbitration. That's ludicrous IMO
No. The Mets conceivably could/would trade Matt Harvey vs. paying him 20 million for 1 year only to see him walk (if they were in fact resigned to this fact). They very possibly could/would see 20 million plus a boatload of prospects being worth more than 1 year of Matt Harvey at 20 million. Not looking to get into another Wilpon debate but until we see the payroll increase substantially seeing is believing and guys like Harvey, Wheeler, deGrom, TDA and even Duda will become more and more expensive and limit what you do. Notice teams like the A's and Rays end up shipping off their good players once they get to that point.
I already said this and you know I did. If you are trading him in a walk year for a boatload of prospects because you know he is going to test free agency that is a completely different argument then "the Mets have to get rid of Harvey because they cant pay his arbitration years" (which is what I thought you were originally claiming."
It's not "team friendly" if you know the guy is 100% leaving. It may be money better spent + talent added at that point. Either you are comfortable paying Matt Harvey 180-200+ or you are not. If you are not then you trade him. What does 1 "final year" do for you?
Juan Lagares locked up leadoff spot with a walk.
Again, this is a completely different argument then what I thought you originally meant.
when Flores singled, I heard Collins in the Mets dugout say "GOD DAMN IT"...
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Flores singles. Runners on first and second.
when Flores singled, I heard Collins in the Mets dugout say "GOD DAMN IT"...
lol.
but...they let him play it out, when he easily could have been traded.
but we've rehashed this one a ton. its why I've been avoiding these threads until the season. Or trying to.
Yeah but why bother with Markakis on a 4 year deal when 2015 is a total throwaway? Can find a similar guy when you are ready to compete.
"Now he has to answer questions, I have to answer questions, (Mets manager) Terry (Collins) has to answer questions, that's not the way that I like to handle things. I wasn't aware of my surroundings. As far as the content of it, I think that's something that I think Noah did an excellent job understanding the situation, he was very remorseful of the situation."
On Tuesday, Wright and reliever Bobby Parnell were upset Syndergaard went into the clubhouse to eat lunch while the Mets were in the middle of an intrasquad game. Wright told Syndergaard he needed to be on the bench during the game, but Parnell went one step further by throwing out the plate of food Syndergaard was eating.
Syndergaard, who added staying in the clubhouse was "straight up" ignorance on his part, said Wright has spoken to him twice since the incident.
"He wanted to make sure I knew that Bobby (Parnell) and he were not picking on me," Syndergaard said Wednesday. "He just wanted to make it clear, they care about me, they want me to be a part of the team, they think I can contribute in the future."
Wood, Teheran, Minor, Miller top 4
Jenkins, Foltynewicz, Sims, Fried. Very interesting to see how they look going forward.
is there anyone exciting to watch at Lehigh Valley this year?
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Dan - Marlins system is shot...
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I guess agree to disagree. I think they have a very "young" ie big bust potential system but they also have a lot of young MLB talent (more than most teams). I mean they have Stanton, Gordon, Ozuna, Yelich, Alvarez, Cosart all 25 or younger. I mean isn't that what a "system" is for? To produce young players? Throw in Realmuto who likely is pretty close and that's quite a nice young stable.
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has a dominating trio of Harang, Jerome Williams, and Chad Billingsly.
is there anyone exciting to watch at Lehigh Valley this year?
Franco and Nola, if Nola starts there. He may make a few starts at Reading before going AAA. If Kelly Dugan makes it to AAA he is another. Long shot is Roman Quinn. Might make his way up there late in the year. Probably the fastest player in the minors.
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but I could see him being decent for Atlanta. Other than Simmons & Freeman their every day players are pretty crappy.
Yeah but why bother with Markakis on a 4 year deal when 2015 is a total throwaway? Can find a similar guy when you are ready to compete.
At this point with the inflated prices in FA can you though? He got 11M a year through his age 34 season. He's certainly a much safer investment than the Chris Young's of the world, and I'd say there's a good chance he ends up being a better value than Granderson at 15M in his age 36 season. Again, don't love him as a player but I could see him being decent (700 OPS/good defense) and being a tradeable asset.
Rule V. Texas will undoubtedly take him back.
Won't be long before we find out it's fractured and Tejada gets his spot right back.
Grease up that Tulo rumor mill full speed again. Lol
Believe it was Tovar
Interesting if accurate. It would tell me 2 things. 1) That they really want to get a look at Reynolds at SS 2) They view Tovar (as I believe) as simply filler.
U.S. Virgin Islands native Akeel Morris with a perfect eighth. #Mets 8, #Braves 2, end 8
per Leathersich
The silver lining in his comments are that he would be open to investing in a relationship with a teammate, even if he "disagrees" with the lifestyle. It may not be perfect, but I do see him making an effort to reconcile his religious beliefs with his interpretation of the word lifestyle. It took me 32 years to fully accept my sexual orientation, so it would be hypocritical of me to not be patient with others.
4th
Flores, Tejada, Reynolds
Nimmo flies out
Puello strikes out swinging on an offspeed pitch
Reynolds singles through the left side
Monell flies to center
No if Flores went down permanently I would bet they would go to Reynolds. If Reynolds also went down for the year also I think they would EXPLORE Tovar depending on what he's doing. Nobody's giving Tovar shit based upon what he did last year. He would obviously have to be performing at that time but assuming he was, yes I think he would get a shot before we went to Tejada permanently again. We know what we have in Tejada and I'm guessing he's Sandy's last resort.
Satterwhite and Robles are sleepers to see CitiField this year, Pill has some backend/bullpen upside. Ynoa had an unimpressive season but still has 'fans" with some of the experts.
He and Mazzoni finished "hot". Mets clearly like Robles arm, clearly better suited for the pen. Bradford has a shot too. Thornton seemingly sucks given how little buzz the guy has lol
Gosselin hits an 0-2 hanger up the middle for a base hit
Terdoslavich GIDP 4-6-3
Eury Perez strikes out swinging
I was thinking the exact same thing
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bat speed and power
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Whew!
Lol. No I think Congress passed it. ;)
Z - early spring games are the best for a die hard fan like yourself, but a snore fest for a casual fan like your girlfriend sounds like she is. Couple quick tips.
Orlando isn't the most fan friendly spring place to visit - more like an AZ facility. It's pretty neat though. Wander around. AWESOME views from the "upper deck", only place in FL with that view. Bring blankets and hang out in the grass in the OF. All you can eat/drink option is good if offered that day, just for a shaded spot to cool off and still see some of the game.
Enjoy the game. Just do yourself a favor. Bring out the kid in you and head over to Pirate City in Bradenton to check out their minors, then catch a game at the old ballpark
My bad. Confused today with tomorrow. Sorry to say but space last sucks...
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About the article you posted though, read that carefully. Puello looks to be the second most out of shape guy on the team, not 6'3" and muscular. A better shaped Butch Skey if I dare go there? Not fat, but let's just say he isn't a small athletic guy you always thought he was...
To put the articles optomism into perspective. "the balls bounding into a parking lot endangering windows and windshields of innocent cars.". The only field near a parking lot he describes would mean weak foul pops to 3B. And none of the above mentioned players hit there. The field they hit on has other fields behind it and lots of trees lol.
But in a group of 100 Mets he stands out as having a very different body than the rest. I'm not so sure the speed will stay around for long.
But in a group of 100 Mets he stands out as having a very different body than the rest. I'm not so sure the speed will stay around for long.
Wait muscular before, less so/plump now... ya don't say cough PED's cough cough lol
Prospect Vapor is very strong!!!! 3 guys without a Major League inning!!!!...and one of those 3 is a "B" propspect AT BEST!!!! Montero hasn't shown (yet) that he's an sctual MLB starter.
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January 26, 2015 at 10:30 AM
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If you still believe that about Rafael Montero, you have not seen him pitch.
January 26, 2015 at 10:32 AM
Talk about being a homer. I like Montero a whole lot but the comment about him not yet being proven as an MLB starter is 10000% on point, I'm shocked someone would even debate it.
It was the first time hes swung a bat since straining a muscle between his ribs in mid-February.
Duda went on the disabled list in June 2013 with a similar muscle strain. He also missed significant time last Spring Training with a tight hamstring.
Just to be clear, I really like Montero. I just find debating "he's yet to prove he's an MLB starter" is laughable. Sandy Alderson himself wouldn't debate this, Montero wouldn't!