NFT: Mets at Braves

What's the big idea starting a NeW Mets thread? Lol

First real game! Even if it's spring training! Lol

Adam Rubin retweeted

robertbrender Robert Brender
Was told Mets players no longer have their "Take the damn thing" shirts. I haven't checked further but was told they were taken back.

I've been off mets threads for the most part, we've been rehashing the same crap for the past few weeks.

anyway, haven't been looking forward to baseball for a few years. first time in a long time I am eager.

hopefully the Mets get through the spring healthy and my goal is meaningful august baseball (baby steps)

The time of year of hope and optomism.

In comment 12162288 pjcas18 said:

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I've been off mets threads for the most part, we've been rehashing the same crap for the past few weeks. anyway, haven't been looking forward to baseball for a few years. first time in a long time I am eager. hopefully the Mets get through the spring healthy and my goal is meaningful august baseball (baby steps)

"Players at spring training in Port St. Lucie, Fla. were given T-shirts that say “Take The Damn Thing,” according to Robert Brender of SNY. The “thing” is presumably the NL East, which the Mets haven’t won since their last trip to the postseason in 2006."

IFA RHP Luis Silva had TJ.


From 2013
""Silva, 16, is 6 feet, 170 pounds with long arms, a high-waisted frame and a loose delivery. He throws strikes and generates sink on his fastball, which he can run up to the low-90s at times. He also throws a mid-70s breaking ball and a solid changeup for his age. Silva trained with Julio Bolivar.""

I assume you're going to today's game? If so, keep everyone updated.

I think his start is going to be televised over the weekend

In comment 12162377 Shecky said:

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I assume you're going to today's game? If so, keep everyone updated.

No. I couldn't dip out of work today unfortunately. I took a half day tomorrow though and am driving to Vierra.

Is televised though

He disagrees with Billy Bean's lifestyle which is his right and he can express it. He is a Christian and disapproves of the lifestyle. Again it is his right. What I think the problem will be Murphy says that may be some 20, 21 years olds in camp that might be confused. He is making being Gay a choice, that is where he will get hammered IMO

game was televised but maybe its not. I can't find it anywhere now.

In comment 12162409 Headhunter said:

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He disagrees with Billy Bean's lifestyle which is his right and he can express it. He is a Christian and disapproves of the lifestyle. Again it is his right. What I think the problem will be Murphy says that may be some 20, 21 years olds in camp that might be confused. He is making being Gay a choice, that is where he will get hammered IMO

Just not sure why we should care what a ballplayer thinks. I don't ask my barber his view on homosexuality. I vehemently disagree with Murphy's stance but Bean was there and Murphy was "too honest". Made me proud to be a Met fan to read Sandy's comments on Bean. I wish I could say Murphy's comments surprise or truly bother me but I don't care what he thinks either way (or any player). He's probably closer to the majority amongst current players.

"Take the dam shirts back!"

I have strong personal beliefs and leave it at that. He has to get the fact there are gay Met fans, why would he alienate part of the fan base that pays his salary?

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Lucas Duda (intercostal strain) plans to swing a bat today for the first time in three weeks. #mets

Sometimes they are way too honest and open. Murphy is EXTREMELY strong in his religious beliefs, so it's no wonder he feels the way he feels. Could have he said it more PC? Of course he could have. He didn't exactly go all John Rocker and bash, he said he doesn't agree with his lifestyle, but accepts him. It was just an overly honest answer.

It's funny how his critics are kinda sorta in a weird way doing something similar. They are bashing him and saying he can't think that way, he is not allowed to have a religious belief.

complaining or anything but funny how last year they had 97 options at first base and this year with Duda dinged the options are basically stick Cuddyer or Mayberry over there for a few days or go with Brandon Allen.

would play first over Brandon Allen but I get they are trying him in different spots also.

with the game thread. Nice to see a baseball game being played, even if its an exhibition.

Would love to see Gee have a strong preseason so we can trade him for something. We're pretty thin at 1B, so let's hope this Duda injury doesn't linger.

In comment 12162624 ZGiants98 said:

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would play first over Brandon Allen but I get they are trying him in different spots also.

Like I said, 100% not complaining. Just went from Duda/Ike/Lutz/Dykstra, to basically Duda/Allen or slide over someone who is already on the roster.

absolutely should play it safe with Duda. They 100% need him to have a big year (like last year) and missing an extra week or 2 of ST is better than missing a ton of time by being silly.

Duda is likely the one irreplaceable player on this roster. I feel we are reasonably backed up at every other position. More so than we have been in whats felt like decades.

Duda goes down his replacement is Mayberry playing every day or Campbell so yeah that's a pretty huge downgrade.

I'd assume Cuddyer would actually move to first. He has by far the most experience there. Then I'm guessing you would go to a Mayberry/MDD platoon or a Mayberry/Kirk platoon in the outfield. The problem with that is even if Cuddyer stays healthy, he doesn't offer the kind of raw power our lineup desperately needs and Duda offers.

If it were only for a couple weeks however, Id have no problem with Cuddy at first but hopefully not something we have to go through.

'Hardball is back!' That's when they got all these good players via trades and FA.

Anyways, baseball is back baby!

mets
lagares cf
den dekker rf
flores ss
darnaud c
niehwenhuis lf
campbell 3b
allen 1b
plawecki dh
herrera 2b
gee rhp

braves
young cf (nice to see u again)
peterson ss
freeman 1b
gomes dh
pierzynski c
c johnshon 3b
callapso 2b
almonte rf
hunter lf
rodriguez lhp

Just posted the lineups in the fantasy thread. Whoops!

discussion going on for those that like MMO.
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In comment 12162836 ZGiants98 said:

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If we waive Puello does another team have to keep him on the big league roster in order to make the claim? They wouldn't be able to claim him and stash him right?

him and keep him. He would still be out of options for them as well so if they tried to move him to their AAA affiliate they too would have to pass him through waivers once again.

is simply too small a commodity. He would absolutely get claimed. His speed and defensive ability off the bench would be worth a bench spot regardless if he hits IMO.

TJ claims another, Hanrahan down for #2. Please let Harvey stay healthy, please!!!

I was watching Mike & Mike this morning, and Olney said that because Harvey is a Boras client, the Mets are going to let him walk when he hits FA. So Olney therefore expects the Mets to make Harvey work a lot of innings. I took Olney's meaning to be that the Mets dont give a shit if they ruin Harvey long term (he said this wont be a Strasburg situation where Harvey is protected).

they have already made clear Harvey's max for the regular season will be 180-190. He's already missed 16 months so it doesn't seem unusual at all.

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Isn't Harvey not a FA for like 4-5 years? How the hell does Olney know what's going to happen that far in advance?

In comment 12162921 arcarsenal said:

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Isn't Harvey not a FA for like 4-5 years? How the hell does Olney know what's going to happen that far in advance?

I know, right?

is a FA after the 2018 season. So 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018. That said, his arbitration numbers may become so large that the cheap Mets deal him.

By then? What would that do for the Wilpons cubbards? The Giants were still pinching pennies back during their first run or two. They demanded money back for Beltran in order to pay for his measly half a season. Things have changed for them mightily over the last few years. Not saying this will happen for us but like Arc said, who the hell knows what could happen by then.

Harvey is released or traded because the Mets can't pay his arbitration years. Assuming he is pitching at a high level it would never happen.

In comment 12162939 ZGiants98 said:

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Harvey is released or traded because the Mets can't pay his arbitration years. Assuming he is pitching at a high level it would never happen.

Zero chance? If he's making 20 million in arbitration and is a year from FA there is zero chance? Okay then.

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What happens if we win a couple WS ZGiants98 : 12:04 pm : link : reply

lol

"released", absolutely nobody made even close to that claim, c'mon if we are going to have a fun positive year on BBI I'd really appreciate at least being "fair". Nobody is suggesting the Mets will ever "release" Matt Harvey. Why was that even included?

In comment 12162912 Deej said:

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I was watching Mike & Mike this morning, and Olney said that because Harvey is a Boras client, the Mets are going to let him walk when he hits FA. So Olney therefore expects the Mets to make Harvey work a lot of innings. I took Olney's meaning to be that the Mets dont give a shit if they ruin Harvey long term (he said this wont be a Strasburg situation where Harvey is protected).

Ahhhhh, that explains why the Mets FORCED Harvey to NOT pitch last year, against his will. Makes all the sense in the world now...

Dillon Gee
Dario Alvarez, Erik Goeddel, Jack Leathersich, Akeel Morris, Scott Rice, and Zack Thornton

In comment 12162944 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 12162939 ZGiants98 said: Quote: Harvey is released or traded because the Mets can't pay his arbitration years. Assuming he is pitching at a high level it would never happen. Zero chance? If he's making 20 million in arbitration and is a year from FA there is zero chance? Okay then.

Isn't the record awarded in arbitration 10M? I read Trout is expected to earn around 12M.

If Harvey pitches so well he's awarded 20M in arbitration isn't he winning cy young awards or at worst being a lights out pitcher? By then Wright will be older and Harvey will become the face of the team.

Trade is one thing which I'd never rule out, but it's silly to suggest, beyond silly actually, the Mets cut him because he's too good.

In comment 12162944 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 12162939 ZGiants98 said: Quote: Harvey is released or traded because the Mets can't pay his arbitration years. Assuming he is pitching at a high level it would never happen. Zero chance? If he's making 20 million in arbitration and is a year from FA there is zero chance? Okay then.

Trading him for a boatload of prospects in a walk year when he has no intention of not testing free agency is far different then the Mets trading him because they can't afford to pay his arbitration.

In comment 12162952 DanMetroMan said:

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"released", absolutely nobody made even close to that claim, c'mon if we are going to have a fun positive year on BBI I'd really appreciate at least being "fair". Nobody is suggesting the Mets will ever "release" Matt Harvey. Why was that even included?

Agreed but I thought you were alluding that the Mets couldn't afford him in his later years and would entertain not paying his arbitration years because they were "too cheap". So in my mind that meant not offering arbitration if it was really that bad. Apologies if I took that wrong.